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spkrman
11-26-2006, 08:11 AM
APC filter, a little 3" PVC, and for right now a little duct tape :)

Definitely a big gain on the top end... up until now I've never gotten the car up to 110, last night I did it twice, and it took about the same amount of time as it took to get to 103-105 before.

When I first swapped, the car ran like ass, didn't wanna idle and threw up a check engine light. It was way low on torque too.

Disconnected battery, reconnected... the torque came back, and no more codes :). Also sounds awesome! Still seems like there is less torque than before, but once it gets higher in the RPM range it really pulls, as to where before it was just pretty even.... when it upshifts I can really feel the loss in power - was much "smoother" before, but definitely less top end.

I may spring for an AEM filter, I've had this APC filter before and its not exactly the cats meow, serves its purpose for a few months but just doesn't last.

The filter is tucked right next to the drivers headlight. There is a short length of 3" PVC to where the MAF plugs into, then the 3" pvc is coupled with the stock tubing from that point. Works great, very happy with the results!

spkrman
11-26-2006, 08:18 AM
damit put this in the wrong forum, not sure how i managed that lol...

eTiMaGo
11-26-2006, 11:07 AM
pictuuuuuuures.... pictuuuuuuuuuuuuures....

YarisPR
11-26-2006, 01:32 PM
:needpics:

Chris07LB
11-26-2006, 01:45 PM
How big did you go on the tubing (I.D.)? That would explain your low end loss, if too big.

spkrman
11-26-2006, 04:41 PM
How big did you go on the tubing (I.D.)? That would explain your low end loss, if too big.

3" PVC to the stock piping, I think i'll replace it all with ABS later - I wussed out on PVC'n the whole thing since the TB is right next to the motor... hot day idling in traffic... PVC does have its limits :)

its nothin too sexy right now lol, but I'll snap up some pics later today, along with taking it out for a spin.

Black Yaris
11-26-2006, 07:39 PM
no offence, but ain't this a bit much of a hack job for new car?

vodkalush
11-26-2006, 08:28 PM
well we cant really tell till we get some pics :rolleyes:

eco
11-26-2006, 08:32 PM
No Black,because PVC is actually a better material,and withe the right stuff,it will look like a million bucks.

Notthy[Yaris/S]07
11-27-2006, 05:29 AM
yeah put pics to see the project men

spkrman
11-27-2006, 02:55 PM
no offence, but ain't this a bit much of a hack job for new car?

Its more of a tester than anything - which, the car really responds well to an intake :)

but ya its kinda ugly now lol

New or old, doesnt really matter, the stock box can go back on at any time if need be.

Put some premium mobile in there which seemed to boost the top end even more, had BP regular in there before.

Even with all the racing/fast driving... still averaged 32mpg lol.

vodkalush
11-27-2006, 03:01 PM
cough cough... pics... cough cough

spkrman
11-27-2006, 03:04 PM
hehe ok, i'll get some pics later :)

I'm tryin to figure if I can PVC all the way to the TB... it doesn't seem to get so hot, but then again its cool outside. Any ideas there?

mikeukrainetz
11-27-2006, 07:55 PM
PVC should be fine, you can drain boiling water through it, just dont make it out of the white stuff with the bright yellow glue all over it... lol.
Anyway, I posted it up earlier but Iceman intakes uses the same material just because it handles temperature change much better than thin wall aluminum tube.

spkrman
11-28-2006, 01:01 AM
PVC should be fine, you can drain boiling water through it, just dont make it out of the white stuff with the bright yellow glue all over it... lol.
Anyway, I posted it up earlier but Iceman intakes uses the same material just because it handles temperature change much better than thin wall aluminum tube.

yea I let the car idle today when it was warmer, the TB didn't get anywhere close to near hot enough to start the PVC melting.

It doesnt look like the TV will mate up with 3" PVC, so I will probably have to mold the 3" stuff to fit it. A template made from the TB and enough heat, shouldnt be too hard. An adapter would be easier, duno I'll have to take it apart and measure.

KSIbucky
11-28-2006, 01:02 AM
:needpics:
:needpics:

spkrman
11-28-2006, 01:08 AM
x10000000000000000000 pics are on the way i'm uploading nowlol

spkrman
11-28-2006, 01:25 AM
I wanted to keep the $ as low as possible, and make returning to stock as easy as possible before I invested on an intake... I figured it would be worth it, but better safe than sorry!

Its an APC filter from autozone, now that I see the results with this one, when I rebuild the intake I'll trade this one up for an AEM.

My major issue is mounting the MAF??? Any suggestions? I poked around home depot for at least an hour, and I couldnt find anything entirely suitable to securely mount it. Right now I just drilled a hole in the PVC and jammed it in there, its not even a good seal as it stands, hence the duct tape.

Total cost, approx $35, being generous :)

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/spkrman/yarisintake1.jpg

Awesome results! The top speed is something that I can put a number on, before it was a struggle to get past 105, directly after, 110 took about the same amount of time. With a switch to mobil premium gas, I got it up to 115 today on the same stretch I got to 110 on last time and couldnt get past 105 on before (i had actually tried for longer distances to get past 105 on the stock setup), between 2 highway exits, they are approx (using mapquest map) 1.5 miles apart. Approx 1-1.25 mile to get up to 115 :).

Other than that, its tough to say exactly what it did. It "feels" faster, and I can without a doubt feel the extra kick in the top end.

I earlier posted about a loss of torque, but after driving it around some more... i think it might just br the big boost in the top end making it "feel" weaker down low.

I also have a magnaflow muffler on the stock piping, and it really didnt do much, but I think combined with the intake it made a big difference.

For its purposes, even my ugly/cheap/ghetto setup works great - the biggest difference is passing on the highway, its alot easier now.

I plan to redo it out of one solid piece of PVC and paint it. I've bent PVC before and all it takes is a good amount of heat.

mikeukrainetz
11-28-2006, 02:27 AM
Im not bashing at all cause I tried the same damn thing with whatever I could find at home depot... that was over winter last year. That MAF sensor location is a real POS, molded into the box, not like everything else. I tried moulding a mount with Fiberglass over the PVC but got a little too liberal with the Fiberglass, its a great option if you got the time and patience.

The ONLY place ive seen an adapter for this type of MAF sensor was in MAX Power magazine from the UK. A company called Pipercross (who actually direct ship to Canada and the US) has a kit for the Corolla that comes with the adapter. Ive contacted them regarding buying the adapter seperate of the kit but got no response. You can try their website here
http://www.pipercrossdirect.com/search.asp?searchtype=manufacturer&search=Toyota&x=30&y=12

Vibrant in Canada also has a 3" ID to 2" ID silicone reducer that would work perfect for this and its $12 Can.

Im also in the process of building my own intake using an old kit I had lying around for my old Neon. I need to setup the MAF sensor mount in CAD and drop it off at the CNC shop here and itll be done, but its been cold and Im too friggin lazy at this point.
I should actually price this out if anyone is interested in getting one. Either a stand-alone mount or welded to a 2.5-3" aluminum tube.

Excellent job in the ingenuity department btw! Im all for 'build it yourself'

Please post up any progress...

spkrman
11-28-2006, 04:16 AM
sad attempt at humor:

for all you guys who think PVC wont stand up to the heat... I see some HOT HOT HOT PVC here: http://www.googlegirls.za.net/babes/girls-in-pvc-plastic/

spkrman
11-28-2006, 04:28 AM
Im not bashing at all cause I tried the same damn thing with whatever I could find at home depot... that was over winter last year. That MAF sensor location is a real POS, molded into the box, not like everything else. I tried moulding a mount with Fiberglass over the PVC but got a little too liberal with the Fiberglass, its a great option if you got the time and patience.

The ONLY place ive seen an adapter for this type of MAF sensor was in MAX Power magazine from the UK. A company called Pipercross (who actually direct ship to Canada and the US) has a kit for the Corolla that comes with the adapter. Ive contacted them regarding buying the adapter seperate of the kit but got no response. You can try their website here
http://www.pipercrossdirect.com/search.asp?searchtype=manufacturer&search=Toyota&x=30&y=12

Vibrant in Canada also has a 3" ID to 2" ID silicone reducer that would work perfect for this and its $12 Can.

Im also in the process of building my own intake using an old kit I had lying around for my old Neon. I need to setup the MAF sensor mount in CAD and drop it off at the CNC shop here and itll be done, but its been cold and Im too friggin lazy at this point.
I should actually price this out if anyone is interested in getting one. Either a stand-alone mount or welded to a 2.5-3" aluminum tube.

Excellent job in the ingenuity department btw! Im all for 'build it yourself'

Please post up any progress...

I think I have a good idea on how to mount the MAF properly just using a short piece of piping mounted into the PVC, and tapered on the inside so that it doesnt stick out into the way of airflow.

What is "vibrant"? Should be 3" to 2.5" correct? The readily available 3" rubber coupler will compress down around the 2.5" MAF, I think, but I'm just not sure if I would have full confidence in the seal.

I think the next step with the next revision willbe to remove the old airbox bracket and get the intake down there, the pipe shouldnt be too long, and the bend shouldnt be too harsh. The design I have in my head at least would make it seem pretty easy :)

Yea I'm definitely a DIY guy! Its much more fun to DIY, and in the end it may take more work to achieve your goals, but getting there is all the fun :)

mikeukrainetz
11-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Vibrant is a canadian parts company dealing mostly in exhaust and intercoolers and associated parts. They have great products and people.

http://www.vibrantperformance.com/

As far as the reducer you may want to actually measure it, I bought a 2.5" (might have been 2.25") reducer and it was quite a bit too large for the TB.

Maybe I could post pics of my setup as it sits on the basement floor....

Notthy[Yaris/S]07
11-28-2006, 04:39 PM
I wanted to keep the $ as low as possible, and make returning to stock as easy as possible before I invested on an intake... I figured it would be worth it, but better safe than sorry!

Its an APC filter from autozone, now that I see the results with this one, when I rebuild the intake I'll trade this one up for an AEM.

My major issue is mounting the MAF??? Any suggestions? I poked around home depot for at least an hour, and I couldnt find anything entirely suitable to securely mount it. Right now I just drilled a hole in the PVC and jammed it in there, its not even a good seal as it stands, hence the duct tape.

Total cost, approx $35, being generous :)

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/spkrman/yarisintake1.jpg

Awesome results! The top speed is something that I can put a number on, before it was a struggle to get past 105, directly after, 110 took about the same amount of time. With a switch to mobil premium gas, I got it up to 115 today on the same stretch I got to 110 on last time and couldnt get past 105 on before (i had actually tried for longer distances to get past 105 on the stock setup), between 2 highway exits, they are approx (using mapquest map) 1.5 miles apart. Approx 1-1.25 mile to get up to 115 :).

Other than that, its tough to say exactly what it did. It "feels" faster, and I can without a doubt feel the extra kick in the top end.

I earlier posted about a loss of torque, but after driving it around some more... i think it might just br the big boost in the top end making it "feel" weaker down low.

I also have a magnaflow muffler on the stock piping, and it really didnt do much, but I think combined with the intake it made a big difference.

For its purposes, even my ugly/cheap/ghetto setup works great - the biggest difference is passing on the highway, its alot easier now.

I plan to redo it out of one solid piece of PVC and paint it. I've bent PVC before and all it takes is a good amount of heat.



Looks Awsome and its a great idea i think make that job

Katana
11-28-2006, 05:21 PM
Looks nice.

YarisPR
11-28-2006, 07:54 PM
07']Looks Awsome and its a great idea i think make that job

me avisas cuando lo hagas pq toy loko por uno:thumbsup:

spkrman
11-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Vibrant is a canadian parts company dealing mostly in exhaust and intercoolers and associated parts. They have great products and people.

http://www.vibrantperformance.com/

As far as the reducer you may want to actually measure it, I bought a 2.5" (might have been 2.25") reducer and it was quite a bit too large for the TB.

Maybe I could post pics of my setup as it sits on the basement floor....

Go for it - pics are good! :)

I'll yank the stock piping off later today, and have a measure. I have all the materials available to get it done tonight, which I just might do.

spkrman
11-28-2006, 08:46 PM
the intake let me get from 169 km/h to 185 km/h... that sounds so much more impressive lol...

Now I know why everywhere else goes by KM/H :)

125mph or 200km/h, which would you have?

eTiMaGo
11-28-2006, 09:43 PM
I like it... ghetto, but effective :biggrin:

hasher22
11-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Me like, looks ooooooooooooo

i cant wait until i save enough money for a AEM Intake :)

spkrman
11-29-2006, 01:38 AM
I like it... ghetto, but effective :biggrin:

that it is :)

spkrman
11-29-2006, 01:39 AM
Me like, looks ooooooooooooo

i cant wait until i save enough money for a AEM Intake :)

i considered buying an AEM intake, or something along those lines.. but wow $200+ for something I spent $30 on to replicate. I'll put in some time/fun and get the same/better results :)

The AEM is pretty sweet though.

hasher22
11-29-2006, 02:30 AM
i considered buying an AEM intake, or something along those lines.. but wow $200+ for something I spent $30 on to replicate. I'll put in some time/fun and get the same/better results :)

The AEM is pretty sweet though.

I heard good things abour AEM, though if a similar item does the same job and its cheaper, why not get that one.

Though im just buying the brand name :smile:

spkrman
11-29-2006, 02:42 AM
I heard good things abour AEM, though if a similar item does the same job and its cheaper, why not get that one.

Though im just buying the brand name :smile:

yea, the AEM filter looks real nice, its readily available here for $50. The piping, which isnt even complex, is what costs so much.

vodkalush
11-29-2006, 07:37 AM
hey sprman how about a DIY guide :-), if not then how about a parts list and tube size+length

great job :thumbsup:

spkrman
11-29-2006, 08:30 AM
hey sprman how about a DIY guide :-), if not then how about a parts list and tube size+length

great job :thumbsup:

I don't feel the current design is worthy of a DIY guide - it will be once I build the whole thing up :)

Cost outside of the filter should still be around 10 bux :)

vodkalush
11-29-2006, 08:40 AM
sweetness, as for the MAF i was thinking something like plastic weld and a "nicely" made bracket, just a thought.

vodkalush
11-29-2006, 09:25 AM
oh yeah, waht length and diam is the PVC you used?

spkrman
11-29-2006, 04:37 PM
oh yeah, waht length and diam is the PVC you used?

the PVC is 3 ID, and approx 4" long.

ProMotionTuning
11-29-2006, 06:36 PM
spkrman:
Just some advice for you. I have spent many hours on a dyno doing R&D on intake systems. First of all.... Do not use 3" piping on the car... Very bad idea and you COULD throw a CEL or even worse damage the MAF itself. Weapon R and AEM wont use pipes bigger then 2.5" on these motors cause of that. Make sure that MAF is sealed 100% or you will have air leaks which will result in unmetered air and your car could run lean at High RPMs. As far as using 93 octane, definitely no need and you shouldnt be seeing any improvement at all. In fact the damage it is doing to the internals of your car could be worse then the HP you think you have gained.... Your spark plugs from the factory are not rated for the 93 octane and without boost, I am sure you are just helping clog your cats before their time :) Not knocking you just offering advice before your final design!

vodkalush
11-29-2006, 06:46 PM
haha, i'm an a$$. you have the tube size listed like 4x's in the orig post. my bad.

Notthy[Yaris/S]07
11-29-2006, 07:08 PM
me avisas cuando lo hagas pq toy loko por uno:thumbsup:
asi sera tan pronto lo valla a hacer lo pongo con fotos por procedimiento

mikeukrainetz
11-29-2006, 08:27 PM
spkrman:
Just some advice for you. I have spent many hours on a dyno doing R&D on intake systems. First of all.... Do not use 3" piping on the car... Very bad idea and you COULD throw a CEL or even worse damage the MAF itself. Weapon R and AEM wont use pipes bigger then 2.5" on these motors cause of that.


I havent had a whole lot of experience building intakes but hope maybe you could clarify that and answer a couple of questions.

Is 3" considered a faux-pas because the throttle body bore dia. or actual flow characteristics? Doesnt the 3" just imply the flow could be increased dramatically over stock?

If 3" is bad what about guys who just bolt a cone filter straight to the throttle body?

Obviously if everything has been made in 2.5" dia thats whats been dyno'd but has anyone even tried to dyno a 3"?

The whole intake setup actually seems really similar to the old TPI setup on the old LS1. (Long runner intake ater throttle body, little to none before).

spkrman
11-30-2006, 02:52 AM
spkrman:
Just some advice for you. I have spent many hours on a dyno doing R&D on intake systems. First of all.... Do not use 3" piping on the car... Very bad idea and you COULD throw a CEL or even worse damage the MAF itself. Weapon R and AEM wont use pipes bigger then 2.5" on these motors cause of that. Make sure that MAF is sealed 100% or you will have air leaks which will result in unmetered air and your car could run lean at High RPMs. As far as using 93 octane, definitely no need and you shouldnt be seeing any improvement at all. In fact the damage it is doing to the internals of your car could be worse then the HP you think you have gained.... Your spark plugs from the factory are not rated for the 93 octane and without boost, I am sure you are just helping clog your cats before their time :) Not knocking you just offering advice before your final design!

The gas definitely made a difference, im not sure if it was bad gas before, or what... but it definitely made a difference :). If not these plugs, what plugs would I use for 93? Would there possibly be an increase in mileage?

The MAF is sealed as far as I can tell, and yea, it has/is throwing a CEL :)

What other options do I have here? I dont know where to get 2.5" PVC, I see 2.5" metal piping, but I have no way of working with it.

It looks like this kit may fit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOTA-MATRIX-XRS-03-05-04-SHORT-RAM-AIR-INTAKE-GREEN_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ012QQit emZ220054255738

Its not loading for me now, but from the smaller pic it looks like it would bolt right in?

spkrman
12-03-2006, 05:54 AM
you guys think that might fit? Looks like the filter comes back up when it should stay straight, other than that I think it would work great.

Could also just wait on ebay for the piping, shouldnt be TOO long until its out? :)

Chris07LB
12-03-2006, 09:44 AM
Be carefull with any intake with the hose before the MAF sensor... read up/search over on the Scion boards as to why exactly.. but it was talked about at length. :thumbsup:

Otherwise, looks like a better fit then most xa/xb short rams would...

spkrman
12-03-2006, 08:40 PM
the hose is after the MAF there, correct?

Chris07LB
12-03-2006, 08:50 PM
the hose is after the MAF there, correct?

No, its not.

Stock throttle body > EGR Hose > MAF sensor > Filter.... is how the eBay intake is..

vodkalush
12-03-2006, 09:07 PM
deal with my n00bness in that matter; but what is an EGR hose?

johnnyfive
12-03-2006, 09:10 PM
EGR = exhaust gas reciculation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EGR_valve

spkrman
12-03-2006, 11:46 PM
No, its not.

Stock throttle body > EGR Hose > MAF sensor > Filter.... is how the eBay intake is..

well, teh flow of air is the other way....:cool:

But either way, the EGR hoseshould be on the OTHER side of the MAF, NOT like the ebay intake, correct?

Is stock not the same exact setup?

Chris07LB
12-04-2006, 04:36 AM
well, teh flow of air is the other way....:cool:

But either way, the EGR hoseshould be on the OTHER side of the MAF, NOT like the ebay intake, correct?

Is stock not the same exact setup?


Correct.. duh on my part.

You want the EGR tube between the MAF and Filter, acording to what Ive read from the Scion fellas..

Clear enough now? :cool:

vodkalush
12-04-2006, 12:33 PM
so, if I decide to go ahead and attempt make an intake, would it be wise of me to put/make a egr tube? or will it not really make a difference?

spkrman
12-04-2006, 07:23 PM
Correct.. duh on my part.

You want the EGR tube between the MAF and Filter, acording to what Ive read from the Scion fellas..

Clear enough now? :cool:

are there any aftermarkets that do this?

Chris07LB
12-04-2006, 07:29 PM
are there any aftermarkets that do this?

"Most" do that I've seen for our engine in the Scion... K&N's intake however does not, and that was talked about.

Dont know why, or what effects it has, Im just going off of everything Ive read, and passing the info along.

Thursday, FedEx will be here with a little something (intake), ill report back with my review. :cool:

Chris07LB
12-04-2006, 08:51 PM
Alright, to clear things up a bit......

Seems if the EGR tube is between the filter and MAF, the intake manufacture includes an inline one way sealed filter, to splice into the provided tubing going from the intake pipe, to the engine.

Reason for this, is to keep the gases in the EGR from contaminating the air being sucked into the filter, and messing with the MAF Sensor.

So turns out, as long as the EGR is between the filter and MAF, it should have an included inline one way sealed filter.

If the EGR is after the MAF and before the Throttle Body, then even better.

So looks like the green intake you posted up, would be worth a shot afterall, as long as the piping is the correct I.D.! :smile:

EDIT the piping is 3", so going back to that other home made metal piping someone used before, the car didnt idle right, or run right..

slvryaris
12-04-2006, 09:37 PM
I recieved my intake today from Jay at c2auto.com. If anyone is curious it is an AEM 2 in. diameter tubing and the hose goes inbetween the throttle body and the sensor. So it goes throttle body, hose, MAF, and then the filter. Does anyone else have the AEM intkae in their Yaris currently. It is like 15 degrees here and I havent mustard up the courage to put it in. The total length is about 22 in.

ProMotionTuning
12-05-2006, 11:00 AM
Guys EGR should not be going to your intake!! EGR is on the Exhaust side of a motor!

johnnyfive
12-05-2006, 11:42 AM
the EG in egr is on the exhaust side, but the R and the recirculation part, are on the intake side, so that the exhaust gas is recirculated through motor, warming it, reburning hydrocarbins, or whatever else it does..

Chris07LB
12-05-2006, 09:59 PM
Guys EGR should not be going to your intake!! EGR is on the Exhaust side of a motor!

Knowone said its going TO the intake.. it was explained that if its BEFORE the MAF, as in some aftermarket intakes, the tube coming off the head "may kick back some EGR gases, and mess with the MAF sensor..." Hence the reason the intakes that do have the EGR tube between the MAF and filter, include this little one-way filter to splice inline..

spkrman
12-29-2006, 07:56 PM
to update, I redid the intake with 2" rubber hose instead of PVC and no more CEL! Got my boosted top end back! Removing the old one there was a big difference... and it feels just like before now, minus that annoying CEL :)

KSIbucky
12-30-2006, 02:44 AM
How do you connect the MAF to the intake and how do you connet the EGR to the intake?
The hole conversation between all of you guys is kind of confusing
Do you think you could paint that green intake? I think I might buy it but I'm affraid it wont fit but also that color.
Also what about a DIY that would be supper cool!!!!!!!!


P.S. I'm just learning this all know so please understand

spkrman
12-30-2006, 03:01 AM
back to the CEL :(

I'll reset ECU and see whats up...

why does that dam MAF have to be so stubborn!

KSIbucky I'm not sure what your asking, or what your stating?

Chris07LB
12-30-2006, 09:59 AM
KSI - keep an eye out in the classifide section later today... I have a metal MAF holder, and EGR holder fab'd up in intake piping all ready to connect someone's home made intake setup to.

Chris07LB
12-30-2006, 08:35 PM
HERE - http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45020#post45020

KSIbucky
12-31-2006, 03:00 PM
Is there any difference in proformance between a short ram and a regular intake?
And if so why?

vodkalush
12-31-2006, 03:19 PM
back to the CEL :(

I'll reset ECU and see whats up...

why does that dam MAF have to be so stubborn!

KSIbucky I'm not sure what your asking, or what your stating?


Just got mine all finished half ass'd (new filter+MAF bracket - stock tubing...) and even after resetting (pull batt cable) I'm getting the CEL. So I'm gonna go out and get/make a new ERG "section" for my intake and replace all stock components, I am hoping that this will solve the problem.

KSIbucky
01-02-2007, 02:19 AM
What's the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram intake?
Cold air intakes are usually placed in the fender well area, which brings in a cooler charged air from beneath the car (outside of the engine bay), which is denser and therefore creates more power. The piping is a lot longer than a short ram which means the power gains are not seen until the mid to higher RPM band. A short ram intake is located inside the engine bay and creates power with better response times than a cold air, however the air is not as dense, which means that it doesn't make as much power in the upper RPM region and makes less power overall.

spkrman
01-02-2007, 08:32 PM
Just got mine all finished half ass'd (new filter+MAF bracket - stock tubing...) and even after resetting (pull batt cable) I'm getting the CEL. So I'm gonna go out and get/make a new ERG "section" for my intake and replace all stock components, I am hoping that this will solve the problem.

yea, what a PITA... they couldn't make it easy huh... :)

vodkalush
01-02-2007, 08:41 PM
the bastards! :smile:

I got it all put back together, with the ERG tube installed, as well as the MAF so I'll pull the batt cable tomorrow and see if I get the CEL or not. will keep ya posted.

spkrman
01-02-2007, 08:43 PM
starting to see ebay intakes pop up, and they are starting to look appealing :)

when one rolls out in the $50-75 or so range I'm grabbin it up.

Chris07LB
01-02-2007, 08:53 PM
Just got mine all finished half ass'd (new filter+MAF bracket - stock tubing...) and even after resetting (pull batt cable) I'm getting the CEL. So I'm gonna go out and get/make a new ERG "section" for my intake and replace all stock components, I am hoping that this will solve the problem.

HERE - http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45020#post45020

Make offer.

spkrman
01-02-2007, 09:23 PM
bad link, but with some detective work I figured it out

you'll have a pm in about 2 secs :)

spkrman
01-08-2007, 07:09 PM
as an update, with an ECU reset and some tighter clamping, no CEL thus far :)

vodkalush
01-08-2007, 11:02 PM
whats the distance between the beginning of the filter too the clamp on the engine? aka how long is your tubing? and also the distance between the filter and MAF and MAF to engin?!?!

so to try and make sense of the post if you would be so kind as to give me some distances between the following:

Engine - ERG Tube
ERG - MAF
MAF - Filter

:smile:

spkrman
01-09-2007, 07:03 AM
whats the distance between the beginning of the filter too the clamp on the engine? aka how long is your tubing? and also the distance between the filter and MAF and MAF to engin?!?!

so to try and make sense of the post if you would be so kind as to give me some distances between the following:

Engine - ERG Tube
ERG - MAF
MAF - Filter

:smile:

all tubing is stock, the filter is 3" away from MAF.

and CEL is back on... damit :laugh:

screw the dam MAF... its gonna make me buy an ebay intake :(

vodkalush
01-09-2007, 09:52 AM
ahhh, I thought you where still rocking the PVC intake...

I didnt think that you'd be able to get a good seal from the aftermarket filter to the stock intake tubing...

spkrman
01-09-2007, 10:34 AM
stock tube, pvc, filter.

now its stock tube, rubber hose, filter.

vodkalush
01-09-2007, 11:16 AM
ummm, I still think that the issue has somthing to do with tube lenght and the force of the air hitting/passing the MAF... I'll add an extender between my MAF and Filter and see if it makes a diff. if anything I will be pulling colder air in.

Chris07LB
01-09-2007, 11:45 AM
how are you mounting your MAF in these home grown intake's?

everything NEEDS to be air tight... duck tape and silicone should not be used to help the seal.

vodkalush
01-09-2007, 12:48 PM
no, I'm using an intake "kit" type thing, sort of similar to what u'd put together (if i hadn't already bought the stuff i'm using now i would have just gotten the stuff from you...); I may just need to tighten everything some more..

spkrman
01-10-2007, 03:22 AM
i'll throw on the NST pulley, see what happens, and then go back to the stocker until a cheapy tube pops up on ebay.

Billstein
01-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Little something I picked up.:biggrin:

mcdaddy
01-13-2007, 07:16 AM
patience is the key to make your DIY MAF mounting done!!

I decided to use this bling type filter coz i'm planning for CAI during summer.. I don't have all the fittings so I'll just stick to short ram type for now.
Here is what i did.. No CEL lit up..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/mcdaddy/Yaris%2006/DSC00117.jpg

btw, they are available at $10 each for those interested.. hahaha..

Chris07LB
01-13-2007, 10:23 AM
You have some sort of support bracket, or is the filter just laying there, bouncing around while driving?

spkrman
01-13-2007, 11:12 AM
patience is the key to make your DIY MAF mounting done!!

I decided to use this bling type filter coz i'm planning for CAI during summer.. I don't have all the fittings so I'll just stick to short ram type for now.
Here is what i did.. No CEL lit up..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/mcdaddy/Yaris%2006/DSC00117.jpg

btw, they are available at $10 each for those interested.. hahaha..

Where can I get one??? PM if need be :)

what the heck is that thing, btw?

Its worth $10, from there I should be able to get a shop to bend up some piping :headbang:

spkrman
01-14-2007, 09:02 AM
closer look... seems like regular rubber pipe, heated to have that flat space.

Chris07LB
01-14-2007, 09:47 AM
Doubt it. Looks like a MAF holder that you can buy... few places around with our I.D., just have to look.

mcdaddy
01-15-2007, 05:29 AM
Chris07LB – the end of the filter is stack just below the headlight housing.. though they aren’t finish yet, like I said I’m working on CAI & would put a bracket to hold the thing in place.

Spkrman – I’m just kidding.. I’m not selling this thing coz’ I know you can do it yourselves.. guess what? This idea is originally came form your first post .. it’s kinda ghetto!! It’s all made of a Hot Water PVC pipe with the reducers on it.. try again & you’ll see what I mean.. it’s worth to try.. get a vernier caliper to get things done..

* my next project is to look for a stainless steel pipe & replace the whole thing from throttle body to the filter..

vodkalush
01-15-2007, 09:18 AM
mcdaddy have you/are you getting the CEL?

I changed my setup and it worked great for the first 40 miles (vrs's before where the CEL would come on after less then 10miles)... then after letting the car cool down (aka parked) I started her up again and I got the CEL.....

mcdaddy
01-16-2007, 02:16 AM
mcdaddy have you/are you getting the CEL?

I changed my setup and it worked great for the first 40 miles (vrs's before where the CEL would come on after less then 10miles)... then after letting the car cool down (aka parked) I started her up again and I got the CEL.....

so far I did'nt get CEL on the dashboard but I'm keeping an eye on it.. I'll let you know when it comes up :wink: ..Anyway, I'm still looking for a stainless steel & will replace my current MAF mounting.

ChinoCharles
02-21-2007, 09:58 PM
I bought some 3" exhaust tubing today for just this purpose... my friend has an idea for a design that I think is pure genius, and once the tester piece on my car is done we may even dyno the sucker and sell them for a price that will blow all other available Yaris intakes out of the water. Of course, we will see how clean the welds are and IF we can figure out where to place that sensor. Fun, fun.

spkrman
02-22-2007, 12:21 PM
I bought some 3" exhaust tubing today for just this purpose... my friend has an idea for a design that I think is pure genius, and once the tester piece on my car is done we may even dyno the sucker and sell them for a price that will blow all other available Yaris intakes out of the water. Of course, we will see how clean the welds are and IF we can figure out where to place that sensor. Fun, fun.

I'm all over it, just need the piping :thumbup:

pics and such are requried, hit me up on AIM sometime

ChinoCharles
02-24-2007, 12:15 PM
I think I have cracked the mysteries of the Yaris MAF!

MWAHAHAHAHA!

Chris07LB
02-24-2007, 07:25 PM
I think I have cracked the mysteries of the Yaris MAF!

MWAHAHAHAHA!


You want this homie?

Already test fit, our MAF fits without issue, and perfect fit with with the included tapered screws.

yrsdrgn
02-24-2007, 07:29 PM
Sorry but this might be a lame question. What is the MAF?

Chris07LB
02-24-2007, 07:34 PM
Mass Air Flow sensor.. pop your hood, it's the black square piece on top of your stock air box.

ChinoCharles
02-25-2007, 01:41 AM
Thats awesome Chris... I just may take it off your hands if you'd allow. Let me refer the picture to my fabrication guru... it appears to be exactly what I'm lacking though. Is that 2" pipe?

Chris07LB
02-25-2007, 08:40 AM
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showpost.php?p=45020&postcount=1

ricepower
02-26-2007, 07:27 AM
patience is the key to make your DIY MAF mounting done!!

I decided to use this bling type filter coz i'm planning for CAI during summer.. I don't have all the fittings so I'll just stick to short ram type for now.
Here is what i did.. No CEL lit up..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/mcdaddy/Yaris%2006/DSC00117.jpg

btw, they are available at $10 each for those interested.. hahaha..

Bro,

I need one for my Blue Yaris 07..PM me please :thumbup:

du2efs