What am I missing here?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Stumbled across this on accident, yet it seems to be pretty reasonably priced for the parts it contains (even if a decent amount are missing).

Thoughts on the full kit? I'm pretty hesitant as I've never heard the name before.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Vios-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit-/270504962025?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3efb5a27e9

[Yoda]

lol no no please no

[Focus_Sh1ft]

lol no no please no

lol that bad? What makes it such a crummy kit?

[cali yaris]

^ Let's start with the turbo.

1. T3/T4 is large for the Yaris, you will get some nice lag from that one.

2. Ask them what brand it is. I would never put a cheap no-name turbo at the heart of my boosted system.

3. What are we missing here? MANAGEMENT, including wiring and tuning.

4. What if you have a problem with the eBay seller after you purchase this?

Should I keep going?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

^ Let's start with the turbo.

1. T3/T4 is large for the Yaris, you will get some nice lag from that one.

2. Ask them what brand it is. I would never put a cheap no-name turbo at the heart of my boosted system.

3. What are we missing here? MANAGEMENT, including wiring and tuning.

4. What if you have a problem with the eBay seller after you purchase this?

Should I keep going?

I realized management was missing (some modification to the piping seems to be necessary as well), but didn't realize T3 would be too large. The turbo could always be sold and a smaller Garrett could be bought though. And wouldn't it be beneficial if there's any issues to have a seller to report back to? You don't get that luxury if you're piecing together your own kit.

I don't think I need to even say it, but I'm still pretty inexperienced in FI and just want some opinions :tongue:

Come to think of it, considering the seller didn't realize a T3 would be too large is a pretty tell tale sign of how little they know as well lol.

[cali yaris]

Where is the exhaust manifold? Can someone say "OOPS"?

[Bluevitz-rs]

It just looks like a universal kit with no manifold. Just comes with a lot of common turbo parts and then you go from there with your own build.

[yarrr]

485 at 25 PSI

GARM! you're slipping!


lol

[Focus_Sh1ft]

It just looks like a universal kit with no manifold. Just comes with a lot of common turbo parts and then you go from there with your own build.

That definitely seems like a good way to describe it.

So this brings me back to my original question: is the price reasonable for the parts it includes? It could potentially be a quick way to piece together the majority of a turbo kit.

[cali yaris]

I already answered that, so I guess I'm done.

[RacerFreakXXX]

I think you should buy it and see how far you can go with it. What's the worst that could happen, it all ends up to be crap and you are out 1.6k?

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Ok I get it, it sucks lol. So what options do we have currently for legit kits? I know ZPI is out and I haven't heard anything about Power Enterprises lately. Does Greddy make a kit for our car or is it only for the xA/xB?

[Bluevitz-rs]

I know Greddy is only for the xB. It needs to be customized for every other application.

[why?]

unless you could do other the other work yourself, you'd be out a heck of a lot more than that. tuning alone is expensive enough, nevermind installations, and hunting down whatever else you might need that wasn't included.

custom seems to be the only option, but a few people seem to be trying to piece together a kit. i'd just find a tuner you trust, and start talking to him.

[cali yaris]

Talking to a qulaified tuner shop is critical. That will lead you to the best path to boost. There are very few people on here that can tune a car themselves. I'm not one of them.

Garm's 5 Step Program to Successul Boost:

1. Think the project through, and make a complete parts list.
2. Buy quality, brand name parts.
3. Install professionally, especially wiring (whether or not you do it yourself).
4. Tune the system on a dyno (this is probably our most challenging point).
5. BE PREPARED for downtime - there always is.

What's the worst that could happen, it all ends up to be crap and you are out 1.6k?

um... blown motor, maybe?

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

wut

[Bluevitz-rs]

Another eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/TOYOTA-YARIS-VITZ-HATCHBACK-2008-2009-SINGLE-TURBO-KIT_W0QQitemZ170476214847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27b12c9a3f#h t_4106wt_1012)

[cali yaris]

^ they made a nice shape out of all the parts.

[Rain]

Another eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/TOYOTA-YARIS-VITZ-HATCHBACK-2008-2009-SINGLE-TURBO-KIT_W0QQitemZ170476214847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors _Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item27b12c9a3f#h t_4106wt_1012)

it hurts to read that page :thumbdown:

[RacerFreakXXX]

try searching through all the other turbo pages, it'll give you a good idea. The first thing you will learn is that you need money, secondly is time, and 3rd is the ability to research the hell out of what you are doing so you don't waste 3-5k. Here are few that really helped me.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27536
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20761&highlight=turbo
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15982&highlight=turbo
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14041
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10624
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19728
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17826
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13406

[Stove]

Garm's 5 Step Program to Successul Boost:

1. Think the project through, and make a complete parts list.
2. Buy quality, brand name parts.
3. Install professionally, especially wiring (whether or not you do it yourself).
4. Tune the system on a dyno (this is probably our most challenging point).
5. BE PREPARED for downtime - there always is.

Great list :thumbup:

6. Be prepared to spend a lot more than you originally planned, especially on the tuning.
7. Don't start cutting corners with cheap parts or try a DIY when you go over budget.

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Thanks for the input guys. I'm only considering piecing together a kit if I can't get my hands on a decently priced supercharger within the next few months.

Even if I can't, I'll probably be looking for a Greddy kit to modify rather than making my own. I don't want my first experience with forced induction to be entirely custom.