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chew246214
05-19-2010, 04:35 PM
OK I have come to the reality that I don't need the 2009 yaris sedan base I bought in August. My wife refuses to drive it, and would rather drive our suburban... (lets be honest I would rather also it's comfy, but I'm a realist and gas mileage is killing me) Anyway it only has 4100 miles and the only options are floor mats, cold weather package, MP3 adapter radio, and automatic. It's killing me with it sitting here, but my question is more a market question... I know what the books say the car is worth, but in the real world what should I be asking for it? I know trade in is about $10,000 by the book, and the dealer offered more due to low miles.. but if I sell it on my own where should I be.... thanks in advance.... I just don't want to list it a really high price and still be sitting on it... But at the same time I want to try to keep the beating to a minium.......

swidd
05-19-2010, 04:44 PM
Start high, reduce $500 every half week it doesn't sell? You're not going to offend anyone, ask for offers and reject them.

STC
05-19-2010, 05:45 PM
Yeah... start high. Maybe $14,000 - $15,000?

Private sales are great... you can be your own boss with the selling of the vehicle.

Good luck...

mrb3990
05-19-2010, 11:50 PM
My recommendation would be to go on craigslist (http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites) and Yahoo! Autos (or some such site) and see what Yarii of your year and mileage are selling for in your area. That will give you a good idea of what to ask for initially.

YAR1S
05-20-2010, 12:31 AM
My recommendation would be to go on craigslist (http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites) and Yahoo! Autos (or some such site) and see what Yarii of your year and mileage are selling for in your area. That will give you a good idea of what to ask for initially.

This is the best advice... the market could be good or bad in your area for yari'.

jambo101
05-20-2010, 07:27 AM
Whoever buys it will thank you for taking the big $3000-$4000 hit on depreciation.Think about that Yaris and the 40mpg when gas goes back up to $5 a gallon and you are stuck with the 10mpg lumbering suv behemoth that will be impossible to sell.Why not sell the SUV and get a car with good gas mileage that your wife does feel comfortable in.Elanta,Civic,Corolla etc.

darkmoon87
05-20-2010, 02:59 PM
Whoever buys it will thank you for taking the big $3000-$4000 hit on depreciation.Think about that Yaris and the 40mpg when gas goes back up to $5 a gallon and you are stuck with the 10mpg lumbering suv behemoth that will be impossible to sell.Why not sell the SUV and get a car with good gas mileage that your wife does feel comfortable in.Elanta,Civic,Corolla etc.

not really an option because the OP honestly commented that he prefers suburban over his yaris. if he does this, he ends up having to sell the suburban AND the yaris.

i bet you selling the suburban will hit the OP back more with depreciation compared to what he will be losing from selling the yaris.

Vang
05-20-2010, 06:13 PM
ditch the wife and keep the yaris (just kidding)

worst case scenario = carmax

ezhacker1
05-20-2010, 07:13 PM
the wife would cost more to maintain in the long run.

TheSilkySmooth
05-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Women in Big SUVs = HATE:thumbdown:

ezhacker1
05-20-2010, 07:18 PM
women in any vehicle = HATE:thumbdown: LOL

darkmoon87
05-20-2010, 08:10 PM
asian women in any vehicle = HATE:thumbdown:
i have rights to say this because im asian as well....-_-

fnkngrv
05-20-2010, 11:45 PM
best of luck on your sale....not to be rude, but hopefully you don't look back knowing you made a mistake...

chew246214
05-21-2010, 02:12 AM
ok first off, I need a 4x4 for the winter no matter what and something to tow my trailers so a truck/ suv will always be in the driveway. It just happens to be a fully loaded 2002 suburban that is comfy and rides like a dream.... I don't mind the bad gas mileage in the snow just as long as I know myself, my wife, and kids are safe. Yes wifes are expensive, but her driving is not the issue ( I retaught her to drive, and even with my trailers she is fine) No she's not asian either, but I am and can drive just about anything with wheels.... I rarely ever regret selling a vehicle, I get my butt busted that I change vehicles more then my underwear....I usually keep 4-5 at a time and sometimes more and switch it up often and buy/sell a vehicle about every 6 months. I don't really care what I drive just as long as it gets me there safely.
between the both of us we decided to buy the yaris because together we drive approx. 150 miles a day so the plan was to buy a new efficient car that when I get home hand to her, and when she gets home she hands it off. Well as it goes this didn't work out too well and the car is sitting most days of the week. I use it as I can, but most days we are switching cars with the kids and she won't drive it... allI can say is aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh some people just suck....

chew246214
05-21-2010, 02:14 AM
forgot to add... I can't find any Yari's with anywhere near the low miles thats why I'm kinda at a loss of what to ask......

jambo101
05-21-2010, 05:25 AM
..I usually keep 4-5 at a time and sometimes more and switch it up often and buy/sell a vehicle about every 6 months. I don't really care what I drive just as long as it gets me there safely.
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If you dont really care what you drive then why waste all that money on depreciation by exchanging a vehicle every 6 months?:confused:
As this is a Yaris forum most members are into the economy factor of the Yaris and usually frown on the SUV community if all they use their gas guzzlers for is single occupant daily drivers,however tradesmen and people with recreational needs who need to pull trailers.Rv's and boats etc get exonerated from our wrath:wink:
As for the SUV being safer than a smaller car that maybe the case in some instances but not all instances as the smaller car being more maneuverable can in some cases avoid an accident altogether,and the smaller car has less of a tendency to roll over in an emergency maneuver.

chew246214
05-21-2010, 09:47 AM
I understand what you are saying, I do not make it a habit of buying new cars every 6 months.... this one happened to be new. Usually it's a good deal on a used car or truck that needs work, fix them then move on, make a few bucks then off to the next one. It's like having rotating stock.... And believe me I am into the economy if I can on the daily drivers... Still Not many vehicles do I regret selling but overall most I miss was my quad cab ram diesel that I could average 27mpg empty.... but have since sold that one.... might be looking for another... who knows

talnlnky
05-21-2010, 12:40 PM
ok... we know how much you'd lose on the yaris.... but have you checked how much you'd lose on the wife? Sure the short term loss may seem high due to attourney costs and such... but really, think about all that gas she'll be using over the rest of her life... what other luxuries would she be unwilling to give up as well.

.....i'm kidding...... kind of.

TheSilkySmooth
05-22-2010, 10:36 AM
Trade the Yar on a jetta diesel - I think both of you might like that ( wont be embarrassed to be seen in) and it'll get spectacular fuel mileage.

Stove
05-22-2010, 12:34 PM
New Yaris' Sedan base models are going for around 13.5k at 0% interest on a 5 year term. That works out to $225 / month on a purchase of a brand new, never owned car with 0 miles (or close to 0) and a full length warranty.

Used car loans are running about 5% ,or more, on a 5 year term. If you ask 11k for your car, the purchaser will have nearly the same (~$220) payment every month on a used car with 1 year of it's warranty gone and over 4k miles on it.

Since new ones are so inexpensive, I'd be surprised if you get more than $8500-$9000 for it. It will probably end up closer to $8k. Good luck.

chew246214
05-22-2010, 11:47 PM
You can't get a sedan auto for $13,500 ... the sticker on mine was 15,900 and change.... basicly 16,000.... unless the price dropped that much.... I think the hatches are cheaper and the 2 doors are much cheaper..... And I think I'll keep the wife for now... she puts up with me and thats not an easy chore....

Stove
05-23-2010, 12:45 AM
You can't get a sedan auto for $13,500 ...

Your original post said it was a base model so that's what I was working from. If you have other options, of course it will effect the price. Toyota's site has the sedan base at 13,365 MSRP. I realize that it's near impossible to get a absolute base model and price varies a little from region to region. But these days, if you are paying MSRP, you're paying too much.

If it's 16K new at 0%, its only a monthly payment of $266.00 for a brand new car. You're going to be fighting the fact that anybody that wants to buy your car is going to have to do so on a Used Car Loan with a much higher interest rate. Like someone else said "Start high and bump it down every week", it can't hurt anything. It will just take longer to sell.
Honestly, I hope you get out of it cleanly but typically selling a 1 year old car is a really good way to lose money.

mrb3990
05-24-2010, 12:40 PM
Everybody does not qualify for 0% interest, only people with exceptional credit, so there is hope for the OP. Also, the OP may want to post his car on craigslist and offer to trade it for the kind of car he wants. There may be someone out there with a pickup or whatever looking to get into a Yaris.

nemelek
05-24-2010, 05:02 PM
Let a teenager joy ride in the Surbaban. After he/she wrecks it, your wife will have no choice but to drive the Yaris.

chew246214
05-26-2010, 12:58 PM
I have a long way for teenagers..... my son is three and the other is due in a week

cali yaris
05-26-2010, 04:21 PM
Here's a typical to pretty decent price in Los Angeles for a new auto sedan:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/temp/ad.jpg

CtrlAltDefeat
05-29-2010, 07:01 AM
I am trying so freaking hard not to troll here, but what you are doing makes no sense to me at all. First let me state that I hate SUVs. There are many, smaller, high quality AWD cars that are so much more fuel efficient then any heavy SUV. A 27mpg diesel rating is nothing to brag about, and diesel is worse for the environment then gas (even these "clean" diesels). Secondly, buying a car (any car) new and only keeping it a year is crazy. You are losing so much in depreciation, it would be worth it, just to keep it another year to get some use out of all the money you are losing. I apologize if I offend you. I understand that we are all individuals with our own preferences, but my personal opinion is that people who stubbornly refuse to face the economic and environmental facts of our oil consumption, and buy SUVs, are helping to ruin our planet. I also believe wasteful gasoline habits of SUV owners are one of the reasons why gas prices are so high now. Demand has gone down, because people have gotten smarter and ditched gas guzzlers, but it's only stabilized prices for the moment. But... I digress.

Back on topic; maybe you have a friend who could take over the payments? Might be better then selling it for such a loss...

chew246214
05-29-2010, 09:11 PM
Like I said unfortunatly I have a 30 foot fishing boat, and a car hauler that I can not tow with anything below a half ton, and sometimes thats a push... also I need 4 wheel drive or AWD to be assured in the winter to be able to get back and forth from and to work, as my wife does also... we share one 4x4 and we are trying the gas saving thing..... Let me say this again... I am not happy about this situation... actually I am pissed about it but my wife hates... let me repeat hates the car that we bought that we were supposed to drive until the wheels fall off.... Our intention wasn't to sell it so soon... it was to keep it, but thats not the case. I meet my wife at work and give her the car or truck I am driving that day and she already has the other at work... If she would drive the toyota then we would be fine, but she won't... so what ends up happening is that I drive the minivan to meet her and give that to her to come home with and I am stuck driving the suburban home or vise versa.... the toyota sits... so where does this make any sense to keep paying on a vehicle that sits on my driveway and doesn't go anywhere... I just hit 4400 miles since aug. and actually got excited about it... there is something wrong..... trying to cut my losses now before it costs me more.... And btw a 2004 dodge Ram 2500 quad cab diesel overall averaging 27 miles a gallon is extremely hard to do living in NJ... flat texas maybe in the country. But I was 10 minutes outside of NYC doing this....unheard of.... I do not take offense at anybodies comments, but please read the entire thread before putting your views in.... and if you don't then people might get offended.. but the fact is that I need to keep a truck in the fleet no matter what. I can't get away from it.... unless you can show me a yaris that can tow 7500 lbs or more comfortably and safely..... I wish I could drive any car that gets anywhere near the mileage that I am averaging with the yaris on a daily basis and cut my own fuel bill in half........

chew246214
05-29-2010, 09:14 PM
BTW the boat gets the worst mileage of them all...... matters how hard/fast/far I go I can drop 250 gallons a day in her.....

why?
05-31-2010, 04:24 AM
i bet. boating is more than just a hobby. you need a seperate full time job to truly enjoy it...

now obviously something is going on that you don't really want to share, but that car swapping thing makes no sense to me.

if she likes the suburban, let her drive it, and keep driving it. And you drive the yaris. Why switch anything?

chew246214
05-31-2010, 03:56 PM
I take my son into work with me where he falls asleep in the car (early morning) I meet my wife (she works overnights) so instead of waking him up we swap cars.. it's pretty simple... Yes I do get cars and trucks frequently but they are used not new like this one

chew246214
06-26-2010, 11:12 PM
Either way Yaris drove away today... took a beating, but no more bitching to me about it... Priceless.....

jambo101
06-27-2010, 01:39 PM
Keeping a big SUV for towing boats,campers and various trailers is probably your only option but i sometimes wonder how the rest of the world copes with their towing needs without resorting to SUV's:confused:

chew246214
06-28-2010, 12:26 PM
have you ever seen those scary little cars or crazy minivan loaded to the max and dragging ass down the road towing a trailer.... That is not me... car is gone. probably gonna keep my eyes open for another diesel crew cab pickup... or a diesel quigly GM van to replace the suburban and yaris with. Diesel costs a bit more but you can squeeze double the gas mileage out of them.... plus my friend owns ad sells biodiesel (legally) and I heat my house with it already.. He's been trying to convince me to buy another diesel and he'll give me an exta 250 gallon tank to kep at the house... All I need to buy is the pump and pay for the fuel when he delivers at the same time for my boiler. Runs only a few cents more then regular.. usually less then $.05 difference....matters what time of year sometime it's actually much cheaper.... thee isn't as much fluctuation as regulr heating oil....