Kido Coilovers

[Bluevitz-rs]

Anyone ever heard of these?

eBay Link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/KIDO-RACING-COILOVERS-03-07-TOYOTA-SCION-xB-SUSPENSION_W0QQitemZ250638919962QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3a5b3 e691a#ht_2011wt_736)

[Bluevitz-rs]

anyone?

yes, no, maybe-so?

[thebarber]

never heard of them...likely rebadged ksports or megans or something

[Jeemee]

They seem a little soft in the rear. I'd stay away from them imo.

[Jackson]

Hello
I also from Taiwan.
KIDO RACING products was very nice and more popular in the worldwide.
Their company have a race team.
I also used their coilovers and BBK.
Feel nice.
And they have their factory.
Ksprot was the same factory with D2 and XYZ...etc.

[thebarber]

They seem a little soft in the rear. I'd stay away from them imo.

similar spring rates to megan

[Bluevitz-rs]

They seem a little soft in the rear. I'd stay away from them imo.

Yeah, but as with any coilover I can go onto the Ground Control Website (http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/category.php/CA=211) and order whatever spring rates I want.

[Thirty-Nine]

similar spring rates to megan

They do look a LOT like Megan/KSport/D2/BC Racing (they all come out of the same factory).

I did find this:

http://www.alibaba.com/member/tw105047474/aboutus.html

[Bluevitz-rs]

They do look a LOT like Megan/KSport/D2/BC Racing (they all come out of the same factory).

I did find this:

http://www.alibaba.com/member/tw105047474/aboutus.html

Excellent research!!

I also liked seing that they are ISO 9001:2000 certified for quality control.

[Bluevitz-rs]

A set for the Yaris Link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/KIDO-RACING-COILOVERS-06-TOYOTA-YARIS-NCP91-SUSPENSION_W0QQitemZ260608987027QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3cad8 18f93#ht_2243wt_913)

[Jackson]

I check with KIDO.
Their rear spring rate can make to 4.5KG

[cali yaris]

Their rear spring rate can make to 4.5KG

Yeah, but as with any coilover I can go onto the Ground Control Website and order whatever spring rates I want.

"as with any coilover", I'm going to disagree with.

Sounds like you can only do that to 4.5k with these.
Silk Road also has a finite number of choices when ordering their coilovers. And so on.

[cali yaris]

A set for the Yaris Link

$888 + $225 = $1113. That's more than Megan, Tein and Tanabe (in price only, not talking about quality or features).

I've talked to Kido before.

If we got a bunch of them, we could probably offer them at around $900, just guessing. Are you guys interested enough to do a group buy, at least 5 sets?

[Bluevitz-rs]

You're right. But with most that have a 2.25" or 2.5" coil you can.

Edit:
Spring rate conversion

3KG/mm = 168lbs/in
4.5KG/mm = 251lbs/in
5KG/mm = 280lbs/in
6KG/mm = 335lbs/in

Formlula: 1kg = 2.2lbs ~ 1in = 25.4mm. so 1KG/mm = 2.2 x 25.4 = 55.8lbs/in

[cali yaris]

I'm glad that formula gets posted from time to time -- I can never remember it. :thumbsup:

[ddongbap]

Dang, 3 day return policy.

[cali yaris]

^ right - to China, LOL

[Bluevitz-rs]

It would be nice if we could buy them locally, be it in the USA or Canada.

[Jackson]

I also check with KIDO company.
They can offer cheaper price for 5 kits group buy.
And the ship cost will more chepaer.
1 kit about USD700 not incldue shipped

[Bluevitz-rs]

Is that all shipped to one address, or to everyones own address?

[cali yaris]

It would be nice if we could buy them locally, be it in the USA or Canada.

you will soon, I have some product coming from them now. They also make a nice 4- and 6-pot big brake kit for us. :thumbsup:

[Bluevitz-rs]

I need the one for the Echo though. Can you get them too?

Edit: and with higher spring rates?

[cali yaris]

Once I see the quality for myself, I will make a stock order. I can order for any cars at that time, including yours.

They can send 5k front 4.5k rear off the shelf. That's good enough for me to see and test the sample. Higher spring rates may cost more, but I have already said we're going to want them.

If I carry the product line, I would like to stock several spring rates so I can put together kits as each customer wishes.

What spring rates would you want for your Echo?

[Bluevitz-rs]

As stiff as you can get I guess.

I have a really screwed up setup right now, but it handles pretty good.

I have Eibach Pro Kit springs in front with Koni Yellows (rebuilt with 7W oil) and Cut Ford Aerostar springs with TRD shocks in rear. I would guess the rear springs to be in the range of 350-400lbs/in. Front 25mm sway, rear built in bar + TRD bar.

[cali yaris]

Well I run 8k front 10k rear, but I doubt very many people would want that stiff a ride. :smile:

[Bluevitz-rs]

That's roughly 450lbs/in Fr and 580lbs/in Rr. That's not over the top for street use, but is pretty stiff.

I was thinking 350-400 front 350 - 400 rear... so like 6.5K - 7K. But I don't think they offer that high do they?

[cali yaris]

^ not off the shelf, but I'm sure for a large enough order, I can coax them into making whatever we want. Would be nice to see some competition for Eibach from these guys. :thumbsup:

[rob323]

Save your pennies Bluevitz and buy the short stroke version (more suited to street and tarmac/ circuit racing) of what I'm running. :wink:

[Bluevitz-rs]

Save your pennies Bluevitz and buy the short stroke version (more suited to street and tarmac/ circuit racing) of what I'm running. :wink:

What are you using anyway? I'm looking for full adjustability now. I'm getting tired of my fixed ride hight.

[rob323]

Non canister versions on the front, external canisters on the rear.
Choose your poison:
http://www.mcasuspension.com/

[cali yaris]

:drool:

so nice. price range? looks to be all custom!

[rob323]

Yes, all custom, although once he's made one set, he's got the design on file to be able to make more. I spent 4 hours with him measuring and corner weighing my car so he could build them.

Price :laugh:, if you have to ask, you can't afford them.

Think minimum of $750AU per corner upwards depending on things like, custom strut tops, canisters, diameter of shock etc.
But then again, I've never had any other suspension manufacturer ring me up on a Sunday night after picking gear up from him on the Saturday to ask how it all went and if I had any dramas! :thumbsup:

But realistically, these are proper race quality shocks, not to be compared with anything coming out of china/ Taiwan. Think top of the range Bilstein, Penske, Ohlins (the real good stuff, $10 000 and up, not the cheap mass produced stuff they sell for road cars in Japan), Proflex, Reigers etc.

They are fully rebuildable (by yourself with minimal tools), fully adjustable and tune-able (independent high and low speed bump & rebound external adjustment on the top of the range ones, oil weights, shim stacks/ valving etc), and even though there is "only" 21 clicks of adjustment, each click actually makes a noticeable difference (unlike the 40 clicks on a G4 where you can't feel a thing until after 10 clicks).

I could go on but I won't, 99% of people on this forum are not his target market. For the other 1%, google "MCA suspension" or "Murray Coote" or pm me.

Rock on!

[cali yaris]

How would he make a set for a Yaris, if "someone" were far away? -- just curious

[rob323]

Well, if I couldn't borrow one from someone for a day and take it to him, then I'm sure he could pull a few strings with Toyota (seeing as he supplied the Toyota Rally Team in Australia with shocks) to borrow one.
Either way, it has been done before.:wink:

Maybe you have a customer in Brisbane that might like to donate some time to the cause?

[rob323]

Oh, Murray knows Liam at LSM Advanced Composites very well too!:wink:

[Bluevitz-rs]

WOW :drool: a little over the top for what I'm looking for LOL.

[Jeemee]

similar spring rates to megan

Oh, I thought they were rated at 3k and the megans are 6k in the rear. :iono: