16's or 17's

[riceboy]

What does everyone think? At first I was thinking that 17's were my best bet,.. but after thinking about it some more I'm thinking that 16's might offer the better performance pkg, not to mention less chance for wheel damage from all those crappy toronto streets...

[DJ_SpaRky]

I'll be getting or using my current 17"s

[Idjiit]

Given the two choices, I'd go with 16 since the car is so low-powered. Personally, I'll be going with 15s.

[why?]

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

[bdiu]

17" no doubt

:thumbup:

[FCP91]

18S!!!! Yea!

[birdy]

22's ya'll (omg omg omg omg)

jk

[jcove]

What does everyone think? At first I was thinking that 17's were my best bet,.. but after thinking about it some more I'm thinking that 16's might offer the better performance pkg, not to mention less chance for wheel damage from all those crappy toronto streets...

I'd like the 17's, but you make a good point about the streets here. LOL I want to put in the lowering springs first (wish I did it when I got the car) Then I'll worry about the wheels. I have something in the works for an exhaust. I didn't plan to do it until later this summer but something good has come along. :thumbup: I'll post more about it later, in another thread.

[drell42]

for me its a 16x7

[riceboy]

I'm pretty sure the 18s are out of the question running low pro 30 rubber bands isn't that appealing to me... that could mean bent rims, and really, really, really expensive tires... the more I look at the Yaris, the more I think that 17s would be the best fit... My major dilema is that I'm stuck in thinking that for the same price of a 17 in pkg, I could get some better quality wheels and tires pkg in 16.....

[DJ_SpaRky]

22's ya'll (omg omg omg omg)

jk


LOL, I know some people are trying to put them on xBs but they can't find a tire small enough.

[YarisHatch]

15's or 16's if you want performance, 17's if you want looks. Anything more than that, common its a yaris.:cry:

[Thirty-Nine]

15's or 16's if you want performance, 17's if you want looks. :

Ditto. I had 18s on my xB, and it sapped the power out of the little 1NZ-FE. I switched to some lighter-weight 16s with sticky rubber and I love it!

[silverRS]

yup I'm going with the 16's

[ricko]

I'm now thinking of just going to beefier skins on my 15's. Anybody know how wide you can go on the stock RS alloys? I know 195/55 x15 will work, but I was thinking maybe 205/50 x15???? I dunno if that will violate the law of diminishing returns.

[Calidrifter]

16" SSR meshies or 17" that I have on my 240

[spacemanoeuvres]

I'm gonna get some cheapy 16" Rage Vigor wheels with 205/50/16 tires:

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/wheels/rgevig.sm.ang.jpg

They'll look like stock wheels but a lil' bigger/wider which is what I'm going for...

Don't want to take too much attention away from the car itself :biggrin:

[silverRS]

yeah true, those that pattern is pretty sick, kinda what im looking for.

[spacemanoeuvres]

yeah true, those that pattern is pretty sick, kinda what im looking for.

yep, I think they'll look pretty cool.

the 16X7 weighs 17.8 lbs which isn't much heavier than the stock 15" steel wheel.

not bad for $100-105 :thumbsup:

be sure to post pics if you buy 'em :burnrubber:

[Leenis24]

Im going with 16x7 on 205/50 tires. Im going with the Flik Ftd (matt Titanium) wheels. They would look hot on Meteorite metalic color.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I'LL BE going with the trd 18's and shelving the stock alloys for winter.....

[YarisHatch]

I'm really happy to see yaris owners doing their cars right. Especially with wheels, wheels aren't a huge deal to me but when its done, bigger is never better. :thumbup:

My hatch is supposed to come in the 18th, payments should work all i have to fear now is getting the exact insurance numbers. The estmates were good to go, but hopefully it wont change much with an actual vin. If it doesn't, say hello to a future black 5spd owner.:clap:

[SophieSleeps]

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

[echo_hrs]

SophieSleeps, I think you need a good foot massage...

[echo_hrs]

I'LL BE going with the trd 18's and shelving the stock alloys for winter.....

Hey ROCKLAND, are you able to source the TRD F1 alloys for the Vitz in the 17 inch size? Toyota Canada has been parading a hatch around with a set, but have become like the CIA when it comes to getting a straight answer on how to get a set...

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_wheel-tf1.html

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/Goglu/SCP/TRD013.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/Goglu/SCP/TRD014.jpg

18s would be way to harsh for my tastes...

Cheers

[SophieSleeps]

SophieSleeps, I think you need a good foot massage...

I think I need to find a girl with hot feet and give a good foot massage.

[why?]

Yo man. I don't mean to pick on you.

But bigger isn't better for performance.

If the overall diameter of a wheel is say 20"
And you have 19" of it metal, and 1" tire...teh combination will weigh much more than one with say 15" of metal and 5" of tire.

Rotating mass kills performance.


However, you are right about thinner sidewalls being better for performance.
Having a stiff, thin sidewall makes a car much more responsive.

If I do end up getting a Yaris...I will be going with 18's.
I don't care about performance on a car with 100hp.
Why would anyone?
If I decide to play around, I will throw in some forged internals and boost it to high heaven. Screw this 140 hp stuff. That's kiddies play.

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

[SophieSleeps]

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.

Tire size has nothing to do with rim size.
The dude's question was about wheel size, not tire size.



You can run a 305 on a 18 or a 305 on a 16. Either way, the contact patch on the tire is the same.

Width doesn't necessarily mean performance. The wider the tire, the slower you'll go but the better you will turn.

All I'm saying is that you shouldn't make a blanket statement like "bigger is always better".
How come race cars don't run big 26" wheels then?

-Ass

[SmellyTofu]

I run 16" (as in the avtar) with 195/50R16 Advan A048.. that's harsh enough on imperfect roads I drive on.

[SmellyTofu]

Hey ROCKLAND, are you able to source the TRD F1 alloys for the Vitz in the 17 inch size? Toyota Canada has been parading a hatch around with a set, but have become like the CIA when it comes to getting a straight answer on how to get a set...

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_wheel-tf1.html

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/Goglu/SCP/TRD013.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/Goglu/SCP/TRD014.jpg

18s would be way to harsh for my tastes...

Cheers

Check the track and offset (TRD TF1 being +51) is correct for your vehicle. You will find variations between different countries and their choice of suspension setup.

[jbrand2002uk1]

well i have a dec 05 yaris and i have 16's on and they are ok to get up to 17's though you might have to roll the arches or remove the inners to make them fit other you rick the tires rubbing on the arches and any bigger than 16's and the handling will suffer.:evil:

[Jaspher]

I not sure if all Yaris are like this but the one's we have in Canada.. (which is imported from Japan) have rolled wheel arches already. If you havn't checked yours go out and have a look. This is a smart move by Toyota.

[Ron]

i am running 16" TRD wheels, 195/50/16 in the front and 205/50/16 in the rear. +47 offset, TONS of clearance space between the tire and the strut bodies. With the extra width over the stock 14" steelies/wheel covers, it looks a bit more flush with the car and not tucked at all. I'll report back once i have the car lowered, but i dont anticpate any problems whatsoever.

[Fat Felixxx]

i am running 16" TRD wheels, 195/50/16 in the front and 205/50/16 in the rear. +47 offset, TONS of clearance space between the tire and the strut bodies. With the extra width over the stock 14" steelies/wheel covers, it looks a bit more flush with the car and not tucked at all. I'll report back once i have the car lowered, but i dont anticpate any problems whatsoever.

Running wider tires(or wheels or lower offset) in rear would further promote understeer in a car that is naturually prone to understeer.

Whle running a staggered look like that might look cool, it actually decreases performance. Running reverse of that (wider front wheel/tire or lower offset wheel) would make the car handle better because it would help the car handle more neutrally.

If high performance driving is not an issue, there would be no problems.

[Ron]

high performance driving is NOT an issue; i will not be driving the yaris anywhere near its limits as it is simpily a day to day commuter car (i gave up my MR2 for this purpose).

the 10mm extra width between the rears and fronts is barely noticeable visually, so theoretically i guess it looks cool. the only reason i am running staggered is because i got a great deal on a barely used pair of 195/50/16 yokohamas, and tirerack had some 205/50/16 kuhmo's stupid cheap. 4 z-rated summer tires for under $200usd all installed and mounted up :D

[TRD_Yaris]

Dude, for handling, the bigger the better. For tires performance=handling.

As I said before, you really are an ass.


umm..no.. tire performance is a COMBINATION of lateral/longitudal grip as well as balancing sidewall stiffness between Ride Comfort and Responsive handling. If bigger wheels = better perormance, then why do people drag race with small, lightweight wheels?! stiff sidewalls SUCK for launching...so, obviously bigger doesn't always means better performance.

Pretty much, if you choose a wheel/tire combo that weighs more than stock, you will lose performance 99% of the time. If you can go bigger and reduce weight, then more props to you, but be prepared to drop 1/4 cost of your yaris for some forged Volks, iForged, HRE, etc.
Personally, i'll spend $95 each for 15x6.5 Falken Hanabis (11.13 pounds) w/ Falken Ziex 512 tires for $41 each... mounted/balanced/shipped from EDGERACING.com for less about $600...
hehe...i remember having 18" staggered wheels on my GS300..people thought it was lame that i didn't have 20s until they saw my timeslips or looked under the hood (2JZGTTE swap from JDM AE94 Supra).
If you feel it more important to look sporty than to be sporty, then that's your choice. but, please don't go around saying that bigger wheels = ALL AROUND better performance, because you are 99% wrong.

Lemme guess, very few of you actually circuit/club race and do your own tuning/modification?....thought so. going from Cast to Forged 15" wheels on my SCCA civic freed up 3whp (at 2600rpm) to 7+whp @ redline...
and for you that don't know the difference between cast and forged, then you shouldn't be buying aftermarket wheels to begin with


oh, and btw..going with much wider tires than stock will also hurt your gas mileage and cause your vehicle to pull to the side more when going over uneven surfaces (either from different roughness or topography). just be prepared to struggle more, and watch those potholes...hahaha

[why?]

Yawn.

Drag racing doesn't require handling. Drag racers don't turn at all.

It requires traction. The sidewalls of drag tires are built to warp so that traction is increased.

And most drag tires are rather large, if you haven't noticed.

I highly doubt many people will try to drag race a Yaris.

As for handling, the wider the contact patch and the stiffer the sidewall the better.

[DJ_Trizzak]

I would go with 17's

[Ryosuke]

If you like the looks go with the 17's. If you like more performance with a good look go with the 16's. It all depends on what you're looking for

[DJ_Trizzak]

ya changed my mind - I'm getting 16's then maybe lower it after

[Ron]

^ that's my exact same setup. 16", lowered. feel free to pop by sometime and have a closer look in person, seems like we're in the same neighbourhood :)

[DJ_Trizzak]

^^ - dope!! - yah man I should check it out - you didn't come to the echo meet couple months ago? where in van you at - looks like you have the same color too LOL - Auto or Manutal? RS? LE? CE?

[fnkngrv]

I'LL BE going with the trd 18's and shelving the stock alloys for winter.....

I have the 15s that come with the S and plan on putting them up for winter as well....I am working on getting 16" PKRs...
http://www.discounttire.com/product/wheels/enkpkr.bm.ang.jpg

[Ron]

^^ - dope!! - yah man I should check it out - you didn't come to the echo meet couple months ago? where in van you at - looks like you have the same color too LOL - Auto or Manutal? RS? LE? CE?

no, i havent made it out to any echo meets. feel like i am betraying my mr2 club :redface:

i have a 5 dr blazing blue auto, basic LE trim. im out of town til wednesday, but shoot me a pm and we can meet up. i LOVE the lowering springs and fatter tires, both for looks and for the increased handling capacity.

[spacemanoeuvres]

Im going with the Flik Ftd (matt Titanium) wheels.

http://www.edgeracing.com/images/wheel/flik_ftd_(matt_titanium)_front_zoom.jpg

nice!

these'll look sweet on blazing blue as well :wink:

[Lafiro]

Ok, well my few questions.

Why hasn't anyone bought the 18 TRD's? Don't complain about the $1999~ pricetag. Just the reasons.

Also, doesn't it have to be 4 bolts, not five, as the picture of those greyish rims?

My last question, most important to me, since I have had my 07 Yaris Sedan, Pacific Blue for months now. What color rims should I get and what size, cause these 15inch steels are getting to me now, since summer is here.

Thanks!!!

[wlfpck]

It depends on what you are going for. For maximum performance the bigger the wheels the better.

For looks, the same applies.

If something else, then you can go with smaller wheels.

I'm prolly going with 14s.

actually... u probably don't wanna go over 17's... cuz the bigger the wheel, the more power it requires to get it moving.

[silverRS]

on the blue I would get Gunmetal or charcoal.....looks sweeeet on the blue

[Lafiro]

on the blue I would get Gunmetal or charcoal.....looks sweeeet on the blue


Alright, I was also told the same by a few others at my job. Alright, can any of you recommend any tire sizes, and rim sizes aswell please?

Thanks, again!

[spacemanoeuvres]

Im going with 16x7 on 205/50 tires. Im going with the Flik Ftd (matt Titanium) wheels. They would look hot on Meteorite metalic color.

JIC you haven't picked them up yet, there's a set of 17" on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/17-FLIK-WHEELS-CIVIC-MIATA-MINI-FIT-YARIS-MR2-INTEGRA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43957QQihZ001QQ itemZ110014352425QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

these woud look schweet :burnrubber:

[DARKYARIS]

I went with the 17" Motegi and 205/40ZR 17 rubber...Still stock ride height.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l35/DARKYARIS/IMG_0567.jpg

[pascal]

I have 16 go see my garage

[YarisPR]

Ok, well my few questions.

Why hasn't anyone bought the 18 TRD's? Don't complain about the $1999~ pricetag. Just the reasons.

Also, doesn't it have to be 4 bolts, not five, as the picture of those greyish rims?

My last question, most important to me, since I have had my 07 Yaris Sedan, Pacific Blue for months now. What color rims should I get and what size, cause these 15inch steels are getting to me now, since summer is here.

Thanks!!!

Well i bought mine :biggrin: take a look and let me know what you think
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos002.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos003.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos009.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos004.jpg

I ride 18s because bigger looks better :biggrin: But i'am planning on getting some 16s to go on some trackdays evets:burnrubber:

[bigsky2]

I likes.

[eTiMaGo]

18" here too... Maybe they're a bit harder to get moving than the stock wheels, I can't really be sure, the stock ones didn't last long :biggrin:

But for style, you can't beat that. And like YarisPR said, it's not a bad idea to have a second set of small, lighter wheels if you plan to go to a track sometime. You'll get better performance and won't need to pay quite as much for new tires :wink:

[Yarisik]

I think 17s or 18s look good on the yaris because the body of the car is tall. It compliments the height of the car and it doesn't look too top heavy when you put smaller rims. But smaller rims are the best bet for this economical car. So you gotta ask yourself do you like show or go?

[Galavoxx]

I think the 17s look the business on the Yaris and if you get a good quality wheel, you wont have to worry about the bad streets of Toronto or the weight. I live in San Francisco and the streets are tore up. However, I have no worries about a bent wheel because I know I bought quality. That old saying: you get what you pay for, it's true. For a good set of 17s, you should pay at least $1500 US, just for the wheels. And spending more doesn't mean you're not going to bend a wheel if you hit a huge bump and your absorbers bottom. You still need to excercise caution, slow down for bumps. Of course slowing down isn't always an option and that's why you want a quality wheel. If you have to buy cheap wheels, it's a good idea to get something that looks a little more robust. Dont get some sparce looking spider-web string-cheese wheels. Get something with some beefy spokes that look like they structurally reinforce the wheel, because they probably do. There's so much cheap crap out there that looks good, it's tempting. Anyway, get the 17s.