FT86 DELAYED TIL 2013.......

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/26/report-toyota-ft-86-delayed-until-2013-hybrid-under-considerat/


WILL IT EVER SEE PRODUCTION???

[cali yaris]

bummer

As reported previously, the original FT-86 concept was just that – a design study – and Toyota is apparently second-guessing the styling of the coupe before it reaches production. Additionally, ToMoCo is reportedly gauging the success of the Honda CR-Z, which could influence the final drivetrain specs of the FT-86.

[eTiMaGo]

dammit Toyota, don't follow what Honda does, go back to your roots, offer the enthusiast what they want! grumble grumble...

[cruz-gsr]

that sucks, i had my head on one

[Kioshi]

I won't believe it...I'll have to grab some additional magazines overseas and see what the scoop is officially.

And...CRZ drivetrain? no.......no.....
I mean, the CR-Z is becoming a good car to mod in Japan, and maybe soon here as well...but seriously, that will break my heart if Toyota considers that~~

Vitz FTW...

[1stToyota]

dammit Toyota, don't follow what Honda does, go back to your roots, offer the enthusiast what they want! grumble grumble...

+1

I guess enthusiasts can switch to Nissan, Hyundai, Mazda, Subaru & Mitsubishi, leaving Toyota & Honda to deal with old farts that can't tell the difference their gas and brake pedals.

[bkrownd]

*yawn*

Part of why I bought a Yaris is the frumpy image, making it less of a theft magnet than all those Hondas the kids love to rice up so much.

[why?]

+1

I guess enthusiasts can switch to Nissan, Hyundai, Mazda, Subaru & Mitsubishi, leaving Toyota & Honda to deal with old farts that can't tell the difference their gas and brake pedals.

um, that happened a long time ago. Toyota hasn't had a real sports car since the Supra in 97, and honda lost everyone when they switched the civic to a crappy suspension design to save a few bucks per car.

[Daytona675Racer]

FT86 available from May 2012

[Kal-El]

Come on Toyota, you do this way too often. Tease us with exciting product previews, and then delay or cancel them. :iono:

[Daytona675Racer]

It WILL be out May 2012 in UK, 2.0L rear wheel drive Subaru Boxer lump with Toyota worked fuel injection system to up the power output.

[redglare45]

It's on the cover of the August issue of Road & Track.

[ilikerice]

must be nice to be in the UK.. "When will it reach the U.S.?" is the real question now...

[redglare45]

According to Road & Track, Summer of 2012. :evil:

[PETERPOOP]

I read somewhere they are debating to make it a hybrid..

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

I read somewhere they are debating to make it a hybrid..

news to us in toyota land.....

[SailDesign]

By the time it gets into production, they might as well call it the FML86.

[ilikerice]

By the time it gets into production, they might as well call it the FML86.

lol.. good one

[detroiter]

We all saw what happen when Honda went hybrid with the CRZzzzZZzzZz....

[PETERPOOP]

Exactly. What i read was saying toyota is waiting to see the success or not of the crz.

[ilikerice]

ok, i just wanna let you know, dont doubt toyota's hybrids. They are NOT made anything like "engine boost" hybrid honda's.

I know wikipedia is not a reliable sourse of information, but from what I have been reading from other forums and auto leaks, alot of it is true. Just using it as a reference:

look at the FT-HS that was just a concept but now possibly going to be in production. I remember this when I was at Lexus before the LF-A came out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

NOW, check out what LF-A is bringing to the table.. an LF-A Hybrid in the works
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/30/spy-shots-hybrid-lexus-lfa-in-the-works/

I just want you guys to understand that basicly the transmission is running the hybrids, not the motor. Motor acts as the boost of power/charging the battery during hard acceleration and constant hwy driving. The "transmission" is basicly a giant magnet that floats in the casing "no transmission fluid". and the coils around it trigger Positive and Negative current to rotate that magnet. This is pure raw torque..

Just think how much pull you get when you try to hover a magnet over a sheet of metal (frigerator). Imagine a HUGE magnet doing that same thing. but rotating to "+" "-" in pulses around a casing to turn those wheels.

more info on that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive

Dont be pissed that toyota is going to make a hybrid performance car. Cuz when they do, It wont be a laughing matter. The real question is, when will they do it?


I think that what is really scaring me about thier re-engineering is the fact they may go FWD =( That will be a huge dissapointment for me.

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

FYI: TOYOTA already has this and a few other performance HYBRID'S on tap. Although an FT-86 isn't one of them....

[ilikerice]

"on tap", you mean in production? or more concepts?

[PETERPOOP]

FYI: TOYOTA already has this and a few other performance HYBRID'S on tap. Although an FT-86 isn't one of them....

I am pretty sure the FT86 isn't called that anymore. I believe it is the FR-S and branded under scion. But now it's delayed to possibly be a hybrid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1dEfzLTGU

[detroiter]

I missed reading that part...did you say that the FT86 might be turned into a FWD?? I don't know if I believe that because that is one of the main reasons people are dying for this car, because it's supposed to be llightweight and RWD. If Toyota does make it FWD, consider it a total loss...

[ilikerice]

Its all up in the air now.. I dont know, but I am with you. If it goes FWD then I will give up.

From autoblog:
Additionally, ToMoCo is reportedly gauging the success of the Honda CR-Z, which could influence the final drivetrain specs of the FT-86. If that means a hybrid powerplant is in the cards, we're not totally heartbroken, but if Toyota decides to remake the coupe as a front-driver, consider our dreams officially dashed

If they go Hybrid, I will still be ok with that and prob still buy it.

[detroiter]

"success of the Honda CRZ"?

I've always read and heard that the car basically bombed compared to what they thought it would sell.

[PETERPOOP]

told ya guys..

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

I am pretty sure the FT86 isn't called that anymore. I believe it is the FR-S and branded under scion. But now it's delayed to possibly be a hybrid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1dEfzLTGU

im guessing you still haven't realized yet that the FT86 and the scion FR-S are 2 totally different projects...

the HYBRID your all talking about is built on a modified mr2 spyder chasis witha highlander hybrid drivetrain....

[PETERPOOP]

im guessing you still haven't realized yet that the FT86 and the scion FR-S are 2 totally different projects...

the HYBRID your all talking about is built on a modified mr2 spyder chasis witha highlander hybrid drivetrain....

Yes I am confused. So is it referred to as the FT86 II now?

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/2011-toyota-ft-86-ii-concept-ar104036.html

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/jpg/201103/2011-toyota-ft-86-ii-conc-36w.jpg

Why would toyota design the FT86 to look almost identical to the scion FR-S?

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110421-scion_frs_story.grid-6x2.jpg

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42703285/ns/business-autos/t/scion-goes-new-direction-concept-race-car/

[detroiter]

The Toyota fr-s IS the Scion fr-s.


Only in the North American market does the "Scion" brand exist, so it will be
called the Scion Fr-S...in the rest of the world where they only have the
Toyota brand, it will be called the Toyota Fr-S.

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

toyota has more than 1 of these floating around. Scion will reap the n/a version and if you people have been paying attention Toyota will be playing with a turbo version. But since i can't throw out photos to support my claim i guess i have no idea what im talking about......

[ilikerice]

u know the saying "No pictures, it never happend!" lol.. we will see when the time comes i guess

[detroiter]

I know myself, I've been toying with the idea of somehow getting a Hyundai Genesis Coupe since it seems they are the only company that knows what people want and actually have the balls to build it. Priced cheap, RWD and turbo. Nothing against the country of origin but it's pretty bad when a Korean automaker is outdoing Japanese at what they USED to do best.

[PETERPOOP]

im guessing you still haven't realized yet that the FT86 and the scion FR-S are 2 totally different projects...

the HYBRID your all talking about is built on a modified mr2 spyder chasis witha highlander hybrid drivetrain....


http://autos.yahoo.com/news/10-new-cars-that-are-worth-waiting-for.html



Toyota/Subaru FT-86 Sports Car (December 2011)

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EDBIl3qJPTB6KstzZP4YLg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTE5MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/290/2011/07/28/toyotaft86ii_203613.jpg

The joint-project sports car from Toyota and Subaru is now getting far enough along to report at least the following, even though we're certain much will change. The car is said to be very light, and to use at least two versions of Subaru's flat, 2.0-liter four, with output purported to be around 200 hp in the RWD Toyota model and 250 hp in the Subaru version. Toyota's edition bows first, reportedly late this year, and not as a Toyota, but as a Scion, with the name FR-S. The Subie, if it comes to these shores, won't arrive until mid-2012 at the soonest. Pricing for the SubaScion is expected to be in the mid-$20K range.

[ilikerice]

I'm excited!

[detroiter]

I liked the autoshow concept much more. It looks too much like a Scion TC with a slightly different front end now.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I am pretty sure the FT86 isn't called that anymore. I believe it is the FR-S and branded under scion. But now it's delayed to possibly be a hybrid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S1dEfzLTGU

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/07/toyota-teases-frankfurt-bound-ft-86-ii-concept/#continued

HERE'S what ive been saying all along. TOYOTA has more than ONE version of this platform going to be intoduced....

[Daytona675Racer]

There is a hybrid version being worked on already. The final production version of the FT86 is being launched on December 3rd 2011 at the Tokyo Motorshow. Not sure about when the Scion FRS is being launched officially (US version)

[ilikerice]

hybrid suppose to be the FR-HS with a toyota badge. the LF-A is also going hybrid, LF-HA... welcome to hybrid performance (except the crz)