Swapping ECU's?

[RacerFreakXXX]

Has anyone considered using a different ecu and just retuning it for the Yaris? Idk if it is possible for a street legal car but I have heard of people using other ECU's when they swap in a different engine or even when you want to use Hondata on your s2k, and using a RSX-S ECU.

[cdydjded]

What applies to a Honda does not apply to a Toyota in reference to the ECU. Its a good idea but unfortunately the ECU in our car only comes in our car. It not interchangable like some Honda/Acura ECU. This is the future: http://www.dezod.com/pd_apr.cfm

[RacerFreakXXX]

I was thinking maybe swapping for a celica ecu, or mr2, or xb/xa... something of that nature. In all honesty I'm surprised no one has come out with anything for the yaris. I see at least 3 to 4 different yaris a day. It's also a perfect tuner car for a young kid who can't afford a 22k civic si, god only knows why they have become so expensive. Maybe one day someone will have something, lol.

[Bluevitz-rs]

In the case of the Corolla, you could swap ECUs with the Celica GT 1ZZ-FE. It has a slightly higher rev limit, and makes 5 more hp than the Corolla.

But all cars with the 1NZ-FE make the same power, so there'd be no difference.

In the case of Honda, they all have a K series motors, so the ECUs are compatible with one another.

[Nexus1155]

I have seen someone swap a Toyota ECU into a Honda, but I think they used a Toyota engine as well, it was a weird swap on honda-tech.

But that dezod thing is not the future. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would shell out $1800 for something like that vs. an excellent standalone system which would even be cheaper. Just because it requires wiring, doesn't mean its impossible to do.

I could see the use for something like that on a more expensive/exotic car, but nothing like a scion or a toyota or honda

[why?]

But that dezod thing is not the future. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would shell out $1800 for something like that vs. an excellent standalone system which would even be cheaper. Just because it requires wiring, doesn't mean its impossible to do.

I could see the use for something like that on a more expensive/exotic car, but nothing like a scion or a toyota or honda

it depends what you want. If you don't want a straight on race car, having the ability to have the stock ecu still available is rather nice.

[Nexus1155]

If you don't want a straight on race car

Thats when you just get a Greddy e-manage blue, that has already been proven to work.

Thats all that device really is is just an interceptor as well or so it seems.

I dunno, I just think it is silly, I can see spending money where money is needed. IE: name brand turbos, meth kits with failsafes, etc etc, but not something like overpriced piggybacks or .... backpurging piping when welding :rolleyes:

[cdydjded]

But that dezod thing is not the future. I don't know anyone in their right mind who would shell out $1800 for something like that vs. an excellent standalone system which would even be cheaper.

Give us an example of a "excellent standalone system which would even be cheaper"

[cdydjded]

Everyday more & more Im coming to realize that this community will never grow. Im getting tired of people commenting negatively about products that they have no experience with. I dont understand why people think by commenting " don't know anyone in their right mind who would shell out $1800 for something like that" helps this community in any way shape or form.

There is a reason that Micro Image is our only vendor. And its comments like that. Why would anyone that has a business make products for us if every time someone says " it to expensive" "thats a waste of $$$" " it doesn't work" blah blah blah.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Everyday more & more Im coming to realize that this community will never grow. Im getting tired of people commenting negatively about products that they have no experience with. I dont understand why people think by commenting " don't know anyone in their right mind who would shell out $1800 for something like that" helps this community in any way shape or form.

There is a reason that Micro Image is our only vendor. And its comments like that. Why would anyone that has a business make products for us if every time someone says " it to expensive" "thats a waste of $$$" " it doesn't work" blah blah blah.

I'm glad someone said something. :clap:

[cdydjded]

Thx "Blu", Iv said it before & Ill keep on saying it.

[Nexus1155]

I have everything in my shop/home to tune every brand of car short of a dyno. I have been doing this for a few years as just a side hobby because it is fun to me.

So if you are trying to ridicule me it will not work. It would be like me going into your thread and commenting on your turbo project and stating the obvious.

I am not going to have a who's dick is bigger than who's contest, but there are plenty of affordable management systems around. Theres Wolf, Haltech, Perfect Power to name just some ones that are under $1800, I am not talking about some $3000 Motec system.

You always think I am trying to prove you wrong, but I am not, I am just stating that if someone wanted to go out ad buy a piggyback system, they can get away with spending $150 on ebay for a blue, another $100 for some cables and whatnot for it, get someone to wire it for another $100, and then tune for like $300. $650 in total. Whereas you would need to spend $1800 on that unit, and then another $300 on top for them to tune it.

You make me sad cdydyjd
I am not Tamago
Don't think this is a special writeup, I'm peterpooping in the bathroom right now on YW
:brokenheart::brokenheart:

PS: The only reason that MI is the only vendor is because Garm monopolized the Yaris market, it's a smart move, and if that isn't clear to see then I do not know what is. Unless you come out with something major and custom and cool that you refuse to sell to Garm, then there will be more vendors.

[cdydjded]

At no time I was trying to ridicule you. I take time to work with Dezod to have an option between a piggyback with limits & a full standalone. And then I get your comment. I get it everytime I come up with something. Its frustrating to me & will not accept it.

This is not a bigger dick contest, it about thinking before you comment. And futhermore how can you compare an ebay purchase of a used blue to a new product? Once again think! If this "$1800" unit is not for you fine that ok, no problem with that. But dont jack a thread with false information. It not always about cost......

[RacerFreakXXX]

Well it seems to me people wont put out big money for a car that's worth about 10-15k. Also manufacturers don't have much to work with, the engine can't handle much w/o being rebuilt unlike most tuner cars. RSX, SI, S200, 350z, 240sx, 200sx, ect are still good for over double whp, while our car can barely handle anything over 150whp (going based on garms turbo yaris, but there aren't really any others) and double is 180whp. Also out ECU seems to just be this gigantic wall unless you bring something in, like EMS. Either way I have no problem dishing out 1-1.5k for a good EMS and tune.

[cdydjded]

Well it seems to me people wont put out big money for a car that's worth about 10-15k. Also manufacturers don't have much to work with, the engine can't handle much w/o being rebuilt unlike most tuner cars. RSX, SI, S200, 350z, 240sx, 200sx, ect are still good for over double whp, while our car can barely handle anything over 150whp (going based on garms turbo yaris, but there aren't really any others) and double is 180whp. Also out ECU seems to just be this gigantic wall unless you bring something in, like EMS. Either way I have no problem dishing out 1-1.5k for a good EMS and tune.

Really? Wont spend money on a 10-15k car? How much were 92-95 Civics when the came out? Our ECU is not a problem. The AEM FIC works, the Emanage works. The problem is that there are VERY few people here that actually try new things out, few people here are willing to step out of the box. BTW 1-1.5k is an unrealistic number for a AEM EMS, unless you buy it used & can install it & tune it yourself

[Nexus1155]

Well it seems to me people wont put out big money for a car that's worth about 10-15k.

Exactly.... When my Audi came out in 2000+ years it was big money, when i bought it it was $21K, now they are worth like 6-8k. ECU flashes go for around $600 with a core if you buy it from a reputable dealer, but kids only want to spend $200 on an ECU reflash.

And now, great minds have come together and cracked that code for Hondas and Subarus etc, and I have heard horror stories of people blowing their cars up. I get requests all day to raise peoples rev limiters to 8k on a 6500 redline car.

When you are tuning any car, and do not buy the top of the line parts or the top of the line systems, money is always an object. Just because you work with Dezod, does not make it an outstanding product, a glorified piggyback is a glorified piggyback no matter which way you cut the cake. You can't call something new if its just repackaged electronics shoved into a prettier casing.. The problem with that is that there is a select crowd who will indulge in such mods like that, which is like 5% of the community, which is sad I know, but it is true.

You can look at a used electronic device and see if it was abused or not. It is not like parts start falling out over time, its just a PCB board in a case. So you are saying that some product that sat in a warehouse for 6 years is better than the one that some kid used for a couple months? I'd rather the used one, cheaper, and confirmed to be working instead of getting a unit that is DOA, which happens more often than not

[RacerFreakXXX]

First you need to look at how people are influenced, people don't buy tuner magazines any more. Yes, I know some people still do, but since the economy went down hill magazine subscriptions were the first to go. So people go off of what their friends have and what is known.

Most people look at the yaris and don't see its potential the same way they do at a mini cooper or a miata or a civic. Maybe it's because this is the first real generation of the yaris in America that has caused people to start tuning them. Either way you look at it, the market for yaris performance is not in demand. There is a blitz supercharger, that still needs to be tuned to work properly and a zage turbo kit, that needs a better turbo and oil pan. The zage kit could have easily been copied by greddy or hks or any other tuning company. I don't understand why this is, when companies make stuff for a rolling brick (Scion XB). The yaris is more aerodynamic and a better car on the track. It's all comes down to who the car is marketed to. Maybe it's due to the economy going own hill while the yaris was becoming popular.

Onto my main topic, can you swap an ecu from an XA or XB? Isn't it the same engine and they actually make harnesses and tunes for them?

[cali yaris]

This is the future: http://www.dezod.com/pd_apr.cfm

I did my tC project before any of that was invented. Had to go standalone. Sound familiar? The aftermarket still came, and on a car that no longer sports the same motor (2.5L for 2011 model) only a few years later.

If they keep making the Yaris, it will develop a performance aftermarket over time, it's just too soon. Need more USED cars on the road, those are the ones people mess with.

I wonder how many parts/kits were available for the Civic three years after it was released here? That would be 1973-75 if anyone is counting. I was in high school, I sure don't remember anyone modding a Civic at that time. We all had VW's and domestics. :smile:

[cali yaris]

racerfreak, it's simple. You can't swap in ANY ECU to the Yaris and have it run all the safety features and sub systems correctly. And you can't correct all of that with management. My understanding is you can't even swap in a Japanese Yaris ECU.

[RacerFreakXXX]

Well I guess having patience is all we can do now. I guess one step at a time and maybe one day someone will crack this ecu.

[PETERPOOP]

get someone to wire it for another $100, and then tune for like $300..

i wish i have gotten those rates! :brokenheart:


There is a blitz supercharger, that still needs to be tuned to work properly

WTF? Tuned to get it's max power, since it has a conservative tune; but tuned to work properly? WTF?

[cdydjded]

i wish i have gotten those rates! :brokenheart:

Rates like that only exist in Wonderland.....

[cdydjded]

racerfreak, it's simple. You can't swap in ANY ECU to the Yaris and have it run all the safety features and sub systems correctly. And you can't correct all of that with management. My understanding is you can't even swap in a Japanese Yaris ECU.

Hey Garm did you take a look @ the Dezod ECU? It basically makes the factory ECU programable. CAN BUS and all..

[Nexus1155]

I must be giving people killer deals then. I should double my prices lol I try to keep low for economy and to help people out., but anyone who would charge you over that to splice in like 20 or so wires, and anything more than $150 per hr tuning is too much imho

[cdydjded]

Cant compare a guy working out of his garage with no overhead to a legitimate business with a payroll & rent to pay. Id luv to see a standalone system that has 20 wires to connect. You get what you pay for.....

[Nexus1155]

This is before we re-did the shop, its not much but its my home away from home. I really wish it was out of my home garage so I wouldn't be getting raped with rent :-/

20 wires was an understatement in most cases i do admit, but i was talking about a piggyback, just installing it in a kick panel, wiring the harness, and pulling them all through the firewall into the engine bay and wiring it up there.


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs245.ash1/17253_1220611355426_1233180022_30532486_836875_n.j pg

[cali yaris]

^ do you have a dyno?

Nexus, your rates are unusually low - I think that's great, no criticism there, but I also think you can't simply generalize to all markets.

The only decent dyno tuners in LA charge $250 per hour and up, and there are only three of them that I would trust my car with.

[Nexus1155]

No, sadly not, we were thinking about renting out another unit next door or behind us and chopping down the wall. Its 1500sq ft right now and we are packed to the brim kind of with all the equipment and cars we have in there.

We are on bad terms with the landlord already for overcrowding the parking area. 3 S4's outfront, 6 out back and like 3 BMWs and 2 astro vans and were really only suppose to have 5 spaces all together.

We can't really charge inflated rates here, but we do to some people who are willing to pay. A coworker did a job the other day for control arms and half shafts and banked in $850+ which is pretty good.

[cdydjded]

Well I stand corrected in assuming you work out of your garage at home. And Im glad that you realized your understatement. But my last point on this discussion is that the Dezod piece is not a piggyback. Its a unit that converts the factory ECU to a fully programable ECU. Its plug & play, it allows all factory functions to work, power steering, Can Bus, OBD2 port, A/C ect ect. Its not for everyone. The AEM FIC & eManage will sufice for 95% of the people here. This unit is for the person who want full control of the factory ECU or someone who has a built motor & is turbocharge or S/C & want to make real power.

[cali yaris]

But my last point on this discussion is that the Dezod piece is not a piggyback. Its a unit that converts the factory ECU to a fully programable ECU. Its plug & play, it allows all factory functions to work, power steering, Can Bus, OBD2 port, A/C ect ect.

It's for the tC, not the Yaris. Like you said, it's the future for our car.

[cdydjded]

This unit is made by APR. It was originally made for the 4.0 Toyota trucks with S/C. Dezod & APR join together & with some internal modifications they got it to work on the TC. Dezod also got it to work on the xB2. The box itself is kind of universal but requires a jumper harness to connect to our ECU. Right now we are at the point of testing it on the Yaris.

[cali yaris]

to be continued then, sounds good!

[tk-421]

This is the future: http://www.dezod.com/pd_apr.cfm

Actually, I think this is the future: http://diyefi.org/index.htm
But we need something more plug-and-play...

[cdydjded]

Actually, I think this is the future: http://diyefi.org/index.htm
But we need something more plug-and-play...

IMO this is more than most people can handle. I dont think people here are going to have the knowledge to put together an ECU to run there car. Its an option but I think it down low on the totem pole.

The unit Im working on is as PnP as it gets. Not one solder, crimp, tap is necessary.

[bearda]

Actually, I think this is the future: http://diyefi.org/index.htm
But we need something more plug-and-play...

The problem is that standalones are becoming harder to PnP with newer ECUs. My Miata is simple, and for less than $500 I can buy a kit to assemble a fully programmable replacement for the stock ECU (Megasquirt DIYPNP). That's because the ECU runs the engine, and that's about it. The Yaris runs all sorts of shit through the ECU that's hard to replicate. Air bags, emissions testing, A/C, cruise control, immobilizer, etc.

You could build a unit that would control the stock timing and fuel without too much difficulty, but half the car still wouldn't work. That's why reflashes and interceptors are becoming more and more popular; it's hard to run anything else on a modern car.

[cdydjded]

I concour with bearda. As for building something, IMO it better to just buy a AEM FIC or eManage.

[rob323]

Well I guess having patience is all we can do now. I guess one step at a time and maybe one day someone will crack this ecu.
Don't hold your breath, my Echo is 11 years old an no-one has cracked it's ecu yet to my knowledge, Jet claim to have done so but won't provide me with any real evidence to back up their claim.

This unit is made by APR. It was originally made for the 4.0 Toyota trucks with S/C. Dezod & APR join together & with some internal modifications they got it to work on the TC. Dezod also got it to work on the xB2. The box itself is kind of universal but requires a jumper harness to connect to our ECU. Right now we are at the point of testing it on the Yaris.
Want an Echo ecu to test it on as well?

[tk-421]

IMO this is more than most people can handle.

I totally agree. The current iteration of the DIYEFI is quite basic and only meant for super gurus... But this could be the basis for totally customized ECUs down the road... It's all a question of time really...

[CarBob08]

I really like the idea of the DIYEFI, fully custom is nice, but as many folks have said, it may be too much for the average Yari' fan.

[Dezod]

Ok. I do not get on this board too often, however let me enlighten those whom are unfamiliar with the Allan Phillips Racing systems.

The unit is an In-Line ECU. It is not a piggyback, and is not a standalone. It has properties of both and I will explain how and a lot of the cool functions it has to offer.

First, it has full closed loop and open loop fuel control. Most piggybacks do not offer both like the E-manage Ultimate, E-manage, S-AFC, Neo, FIC.....These unit s struggle (at best) to control the AFRs well and tightly around the stock ECU's strategy. The APR X1 does it flawlessly (if programmed properly). There is no pulse widths to enter like a standalone. There is no duty cycles to enter. There is no BS. Just enter the target AFR based upon load and engine RPM and be done with it. The tighter your injector transfer function is, the tighter the AFR control will be. The thing is SUPER accurate and provides mounds to data for easy tuning and no guess work. :w00t:

Secondly, ignition timing is more like a piggyback in the fact that it lets the stock ECU make the final call for what it determines as far as spark advance. Your Spark Base table tune (allowing for both advance and/or retard) will provide an additional figure below or over the stock value. For example, say the stock ECU wanted 20 degrees at WOT, and you wanted 25, simply add +5 in those cells and be done. A negative 5 would yield 15 degrees of advance. This makes it easy and eliminates all of the guess work involved with ignition timing.

You can also alter the top speed, rev limiter, you get 2 step launch control, still works with ALL factory keys, accessories and such like a stock car. The OBD2 port is still active for emissions purposes for those of you whom have emissions in your area (unlike a standalone). All trouble codes are still active and in use too.

The real benefit of a unit like the APR is that is uses all of Toyo's millions of dollars of invested time and equipment to your advantage. Toyo spent countless man hours developing ECU fuel and ignition mapping strategies that you can now use to your advantage using the unit like the APR. The fact that you can custom sculpt a fuel curve and ignition curve with minimal effort and supreme accuracy is second to none.

If you become proficient with the APR unit, you do not even need a dyno to tune it. You can view the super sophisticated datalogging, make changes and see the air flow difference from one pull to the next. It doesn't get any better than that. Same deal for ignition timing too. You can see where knock occurs and when the stock ECU pulls out timing, and adjust accordingly. No fussing with custom knock curves and such.

I have tuned plenty of standalones and owned a complete standalone Lexus IS300 that we did with an AEM EMS, and this APR is second to none. The amount of data you can get and have from pull to pull, you don't even want to touch another system. My current DD has a custom APR on it, and it's an xB2. I love the darn thing! No cold start adjustments, no start extra fuel decay maps, no prolonged stat sync starts....Just turn key and go. :thumbsup:

I will entertain and all questions regarding this unit and post datalogs and shots of the software to show that this unit is the future of modding Toyos.

[rob323]

Dezod, a couple of quick ones for you if you can spare the time please.
Can you have full control over the variable cam timing?
Can you convert it to run on speed density or map sensed?
Assuming I run some nice large duration cams with bugger all vacuum at idle, is it capable of accommodating that?

By the way, these questions are all related to using it on an Echo, whether that makes things easier or harder, I don't know.

[Dezod]

Dezod, a couple of quick ones for you if you can spare the time please.
Can you have full control over the variable cam timing?
Can you convert it to run on speed density or map sensed?
Assuming I run some nice large duration cams with bugger all vacuum at idle, is it capable of accommodating that?

By the way, these questions are all related to using it on an Echo, whether that makes things easier or harder, I don't know.

No control over VVT. To be honest, we offered it in the AEM EMS we did for the Scion tC. Most people did not take the cumbersome efforts of tuning it, so it was left by the way side. The ARP lets the stock control it, which works just fine as it does a good job (not the best) in controlling it.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO RUN SPEED DENSITY!?!?! You are out of your mind if you want to do this! Use the MAF as the APR was designed to do. The MAF is MUCH more accurate and provides baro change correct, temp and humidity correction all in one. With MAP (Speed density) you must do that on your own. Stick with the MAF, use it's accuracy and be done with it. (also, don't worry about maxing it out, if you do you can run a GM 650g/s^2 MAF with the APR or even twin MAFs!) Take the 3D modeling of air and enjoy.

As far as cams, we've done 264s on the 2AZ tC without issues at all. We are now about to do some 280/272s to see what's up. I would not be concerned with cams and this unit at all. We've even run 850cc injectors too. No problems there either.

[rob323]

No control over VVT. To be honest, we offered it in the AEM EMS we did for the Scion tC. Most people did not take the cumbersome efforts of tuning it, so it was left by the way side. The ARP lets the stock control it, which works just fine as it does a good job (not the best) in controlling it. Understandable, but I guess most people wouldn't have access to a free engine dyno :smile:.

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO RUN SPEED DENSITY!?!?! .......Use the MAF as the APR was designed to do. The MAF is MUCH more accurate and provides baro change correct, temp and humidity correction all in one. With MAP (Speed density) you must do that on your own. Stick with the MAF, use it's accuracy and be done with it. (also, don't worry about maxing it out, if you do you can run a GM 650g/s^2 MAF with the APR or even twin MAFs!) Take the 3D modeling of air and enjoy.
A hang over from my Mitsubishi days I guess (ECMlink), but the reason for my question was because down the track I see itb's in my future. To run the maf, I'll need to build a plenum for them (which is probably what will happen anyway). It's good to know that I'm not stuck with the stock maf at least.


You are out of your mind if you want to do this!
I'm not going to debate that, afterall I did build an Echo rally car.

As far as cams, we've done 264s on the 2AZ tC without issues at all. We are now about to do some 280/272s to see what's up. I would not be concerned with cams and this unit at all. We've even run 850cc injectors too. No problems there either.
Please let me know how the 280's go. Does the lack of airflow across the maf at idle cause any problems or can that be compensated for?

Thanks for the replies Dezod.

Cheers,
Rob.

[cali yaris]

Dezod,

Great info as always and thanks for posting.

Is the APR actively being tested/configured for a Toyota Yaris at this time?

[Dezod]

Dezod,

Great info as always and thanks for posting.

Is the APR actively being tested/configured for a Toyota Yaris at this time?

We have one just about ready, and are just waiting on payment from someone.:iono:

[Dezod]

If there are any more questions on this wonderful unit, I will gladly answer them. :biggrin:

[Dezod]

Some pics!

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1275&d=1266618967

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1276&d=1266619062

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1277&d=1266619187

[H3LlIoN]

I'd be excited to see the dezod unit, especially since last month I was hearing about how it was never going to happen for the 1nz. I just hope this doesn't turn out like the bolt on turbo kit fiasco.

[Dezod]

I'd be excited to see the dezod unit, especially since last month I was hearing about how it was never going to happen for the 1nz. I just hope this doesn't turn out like the bolt on turbo kit fiasco.

Well again, it all boils down to demand. A turbo kit (to do it right) encompasses a lot of cash outlay to put units on the shelf and such. Just to put the point home, if we had taken the same approach as we did with the tC kit, where we put 100 units of downpipes and intercoolerpipes on the shelf, we'd be up poop's creek in this market. The tC market embraced our enthusiasm and bought it all and then some many times over.

I guess the point I am driving at here is demand. There needs to be people wanting and buying a product for it to exist. It must be a profitable venture for a company to undertake the challenge.

The engine management deal, can be done on a one or two unit basis, therefore requires virtually minimal cash outlay therefore offering a better change of existence to the market.

[lilredrocket]

Seems like it would make it easier for the people that just want to use only bolt os but want more power. If it makes it that easy to street tune (safely)

[Dezod]

Seems like it would make it easier for the people that just want to use only bolt os but want more power. If it makes it that easy to street tune (safely)

This unit allows for turbo, S/C and N/A tuning with no problems!

[Dezod]

Update! We now have successfully gotten the APR unit running on a stock 2009 Yaris S. The unit will be available by special order for the Yaris. Please call us to order.

[tk-421]

Update! We now have successfully gotten the APR unit running on a stock 2009 Yaris S. The unit will be available by special order for the Yaris. Please call us to order.

This sounds promising. What are the expected gains on a NA Yaris?

[Dezod]

This sounds promising. What are the expected gains on a NA Yaris?

Contingent upon supporting mods, tuning and fuel chosen.

[tk-421]

Of course. I'm just looking for a ballpark figure here... TIA

[Dezod]

Of course. I'm just looking for a ballpark figure here... TIA

I have seen gains on the 2AZ N/A with this unit tuned on cams, intake, header and exhaust of about 30whp.

[Dezod]

I tried to make another thread about this unit and it's capabilities, however a moderator deleted it. So, I will entertain any and all questions here about it.

[tk-421]

I tried to make another thread about this unit and it's capabilities, however a moderator deleted it. So, I will entertain any and all questions here about it.

I just restored the thread. It was mistaken for a sales thread. Sorry about that. :thumbsup:

[Dezod]

I just restored the thread. It was mistaken for a sales thread. Sorry about that. :thumbsup:

Thank you. No, which is why I did not list any pricing. As a matter of fact, I reworked it.