Why do some Yaris sedans have a tach?

[big lo]

When I purchased the S sedan, and their were four left none of them had a tach, and this was in the ending of 2006 mine is a 2007. But as I drive I noticed some models with tachs, is it possible to make an upgrade to have a tach, like the stock one? If so please give me some tips on the subject.

[Yaris Hilton]

Our base models have tachs. i think it was part of the power package.

[big lo]

That I dont understand, because I brought the S, but then again out here in PR certain vehicles dont come with special features, example one the Yaris sedan does not come with a bodykit but when you receive or look at the options it comes with the package, and I must say the dealer also heard my mouth about this. But is a upgrade possible?

[Yaris Hilton]

Anything's possible. Practical and affordable are other things.

[Yaris Hilton]

http://www.jcwhitney.com/replacement-series-illuminated-tachometer/p2008901.jcwx

[YarisSedan]

I think yaris hilton is right. The tach pertains to the power package not the trim level. You can purchase a base model yaris that is a S. Has no power anything and downgraded interior but still have the S kit. Or you can buy a fully loaded yaris with upgraded seats radio and power everything that dosnt come with a S kit which is what I have. Its automatic but I have a tachometer go figure.

They should have just made the tach standard on all S models and or all stick shift models. Makes logical sense but what it all comes down to is dollars and cents. Anything that can cut production costs.

Cheapest way would be to add a aftermarket tach.

[CTScott]

Sedan clusters with tach seem to be readily available and relatively cheap on eBay. The link below is one for $50. The only issue with swapping the cluster is that your mileage will change to that of the replacement cluster. Your local dealer or a local speedometer repair shop may have the equipment to reprogram the new cluster with your current mileage.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-08-Toyota-Yaris-Speedometer-w-Tachometer-OE-LKQ-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c55019b13QQitemZ19040 4729619QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

[Kal-El]

I don't know about other markets, but in the US, all manual transmission sedans have tachs as well as all power package equipped models.

[RedHatch08]

This is a weird quirk of the Yaris.

I have an 08 hatch with a stick. No power package and NO TACH.

This is probably my number 1 gripe with the car. I think if it's a manual, it should have a tach. End of story.

Yes I can drive the car just fine without it. I just think it's a basic guage, and it's not like it's a luxury or something.

The car has that worthless gimmick Tire Pressure Monitoring System which is complete and total bullsh!t.

If cost is the issue, take out TPMS and give me my tach.

[Kal-El]

This is a weird quirk of the Yaris.

I have an 08 hatch with a stick. No power package and NO TACH.

This is probably my number 1 gripe with the car. I think if it's a manual, it should have a tach. End of story.

Yes I can drive the car just fine without it. I just think it's a basic guage, and it's not like it's a luxury or something.

The car has that worthless gimmick Tire Pressure Monitoring System which is complete and total bullsh!t.

If cost is the issue, take out TPMS and give me my tach.

The tpms is only in the Yaris because it's a government requirement as of all 2008 models. Notice it wasn't in the '07's.

I agree with you though, a tach should be in all models as well as a proper temperature gauge. I also wish the Yaris had a traditional analog gas gauge which gives a more precise estimate.

[RedHatch08]

^
Is it a Gov. requirement? Did not know that. Makes sense though that the gov. would do something that assinine.

And you're absolutely right about the proper temp. and gas gauges too.

[big lo]

In other words this sucks. I still have a lot of love for my baby, she is good without a tach, I guess. But I still would like one for mine. And that is strange that manual trans, dont come with a tach. I've had many cars in my time and all had a tach, and all were AT trans. Well the search continues....

[b_hickman11]

I don't know about other markets, but in the US, all manual transmission sedans have tachs as well as all power package equipped models.

I don't think that is 100% correct. It wasn't based on transmission. Only on the power package.

[Yaris Hilton]

Yep, the asinine TPMS system is a US government requirement. Those transmitters have nonreplaceable batteries that will die in a few years, too.

[ddongbap]

So people can pay more for it.

[Kal-El]

I don't think that is 100% correct. It wasn't based on transmission. Only on the power package.

My '07 has a tach and no power package. And every MT sedan I've seen has it.
The MT liftback, on the other hand, doesn't.

[RedHatch08]

Yep, the asinine TPMS system is a US government requirement. Those transmitters have nonreplaceable batteries that will die in a few years, too.

Yeah the battery thing I knew about.

So ridiculous. TPMS adds significant cost, adds complexity, and is designed to fail after a few years.

Sounds like something only the government and car companies would think is a good idea. Sure doesn't serve the consumer, in fact it scams them.

Those auto company lobbyist must have lined a lot of pockets to get this shit to be made manditory.

[big lo]

Good looking out CT with the link to Ebay that helps alot, I ll be purchasing one next week. But what did you mean about the milage change, I dont think its necessary to do that because you are not changing the computer to the car, but then again I might be wrong, holla at me, with new info if you can.

[Yaris Hilton]

There have been other threads about changing out speedometers. The mileage seems to be stored in there, not in the ECU.

[CTScott]

Good looking out CT with the link to Ebay that helps alot, I ll be purchasing one next week. But what did you mean about the milage change, I dont think its necessary to do that because you are not changing the computer to the car, but then again I might be wrong, holla at me, with new info if you can.

Like YarisHilton mentioned above, the odometer readings are stored in the cluster, not in the ECM (the car's main computer).

[big lo]

Once again good looking to Yaris Hilton & to CT this info has been positive all around, and to rest who commented to this quest for the tach question, thank you. I will buy it anyway and send out the out come, with extra info. Holla at your boy in PR.

[b_hickman11]

My '07 has a tach and no power package. And every MT sedan I've seen has it.
The MT liftback, on the other hand, doesn't.

My 07 Sedan has no tach and no power package. My 08 Sedan has a tach and the power package. Does your Yaris have cruise control? If it does, is it the OEM cruise or the Rostra Cruise.

[Kal-El]

My 07 Sedan has no tach and no power package. My 08 Sedan has a tach and the power package. Does your Yaris have cruise control? If it does, is it the OEM cruise or the Rostra Cruise.

I assume yours is an automatic? I'm pretty positive that ALL Manual SEDANS have a tach.

And no, I don't have cruise. Factory installed cruise only comes with the power package.

[SAV912]

I assume yours is an automatic? I'm pretty positive that ALL Manual SEDANS have a tach.

And no, I don't have cruise. Factory installed cruise only comes with the power package.

No. Tachs came with S packages or power packages. Sedan or LB.

-SAV:drinking:

[Kal-El]

Anyone have a manual sedan without a tach?

[b_hickman11]

I assume yours is an automatic? I'm pretty positive that ALL Manual SEDANS have a tach.

And no, I don't have cruise. Factory installed cruise only comes with the power package.

There were many threads about this back in 2007. A lot of MT folks were on here complaining that their MT didn't have a tach when the automatic's did.

[GeneralDon7]

I have the 07 Sedan, but mine was the power package and came with the tach.

[sickpuppy1]

2010 sedan w/power package and an automatic and tach. While I dont need it, I like it. Helps me control gas pedal/shift points when I'm in gas saving mode, which is most of the time. And I agree, again while not a necessity for a manual, I wouldnt want one without it and it should be standard for a manual no matter what trim level or package you have. Dumb move on toyota's part. Cutting cost and a way to drive up package sales probably.

[Yaris Hilton]

Probably mainly aimed at pushing package sales.

[RedHatch08]

^
Yeah I have no doubt. Lame.

[Reeves360]

The correct answer is with a MANUAL sedan you only get a tac if you purchase the power package. You also get a dimming dome light, because of this the dealer will state you can't install an OEM alarm, untrue.

I wanted a 5 speed sedan with power package and keyless entry but was told I could NOT have this because of the tac. The dimming dome light tricks the alarm into thinking a door is still open for about 7 seconds.

[Reeves360]

The correct answer is with a MANUAL sedan you only get a tac if you purchase the power package. You also get a dimming dome light, because of this the dealer will state you can't install an OEM alarm, untrue.

I wanted a 5 speed sedan with power package and keyless entry but was told I could NOT have this because of the tac. The dimming dome light tricks the alarm into thinking a door is still open for about 7 seconds.

[Kal-El]

The correct answer is with a MANUAL sedan you only get a tac if you purchase the power package. You also get a dimming dome light, because of this the dealer will state you can't install an OEM alarm, untrue.

I wanted a 5 speed sedan with power package and keyless entry but was told I could NOT have this because of the tac. The dimming dome light tricks the alarm into thinking a door is still open for about 7 seconds.

It's not the correct answer. I have a tach and dimmer but NO power package.

However, mine is an "S".

[big lo]

Oooo, low blow. I think that going to hurt in morning folks.

[big lo]

Oooo, low blow. I think that going to hurt in morning folks.

[Carrot Top]

[QUOTE=RedHatch08;480853]
The car has that worthless gimmick Tire Pressure
Monitoring System which is complete and total bullsh!t.

This is SO true!...I had 4 nails in my rear passenger tire and the PSI was 13 and the TPMS did not come on to tell me this, I just happened to gas up and and thought I should check the air in my tires then I realized I must have a nail in my tire, couldn't believe I had 4! Guess, its time to purchase some new tires!

As for the tach, I was told when purchasing my HB (auto) that it comes with a tach as part of the power package.

[big lo]

This all falls down to where a person lives, laws etc. It sucks, all cars should have a tach, one is more aware of the power in shifts etc, but thats the car business, you get it or you dont, its a scam, fraud, so we can pay more at least this is my opinion, I could be wrong thou. But the fact remains why oh why some models have this and that, all around it sucks.

[JumpmanYaris]

Tu tienes un Tak?

I purchased a Cluster from a member here with a tak and used that one it only had 1180 more miles then mine so i said fuck it

[auxmike]

I don't know about other markets, but in the US, all manual transmission sedans have tachs as well as all power package equipped models.
I got power package, got NO tach...:iono:

[Kal-El]

I got power package, got NO tach...:iono:

But you have a liftback.

[RangerBEH]

I have an automatic 07 lift back. It doe not have a tach.

I have been looking around the forum trying to find out if I can replace my instrument cluster with one including a tachometer. would it be plug and play or would i have to wire the tachometer in.

If anyone has done this you help would be greatly appreciated.

[cali yaris]

There are at least two people on here who have swapped it successfully. I am pretty sure they didn't have to do any custom wiring.

[big lo]

I agree theres no extra wiring involved but it need to be tuned or should I say checked buy a tech, the milage will not be the same, I ordered one and I m still waiting, sh!t happens, but it is a plug & play job.

[RangerBEH]

that is great news, that it is plug and play, i will start looking around for one.......

[JumpmanYaris]

I been having my cluster since Jan. With out a problem its just plug and play ppl the miles are going to be diffrent but it can be change with the right equipment go to the dealership and talk to them.

[sleey0]

Anyone got a source for a cluster w/tach for a 08 LB?

Checking ebay and not finding any.

[jambo101]

My 08 sedan came with a tach, not sure of its relevance in the Yaris, i can only assume its meant to look sporty/cool or to tell psuedo racer boi's what their rpm's are, real racers dont need a tach to tell them when to shift.