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JBougie
07-12-2010, 07:22 PM
Roman Polanski freed after Swiss reject U.S. extradition request
:evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::e vil::evil::evil::evil::evil:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/12/AR2010071201129.html

tomato
07-12-2010, 08:02 PM
yeah, well the way I understand it, the US didn't comply, so better luck next time. Win some, lose some.

In any event who gives a rat's @ss about something that (may have) happened 35 years ago? :iono:

tomato
07-12-2010, 08:07 PM
Have you seen his movies, BTW? Holy cow :eek:

The guy is weird but brilliant at what he does. Or you could say he's brilliant at what he does but weird. Either way.

The first Polanski movie i ever saw was called either "the Window" or "the Apartment" . It was a modern Hitchcock like tale, in an urban environment. Boy, that movie scared me for a week :eyebulge:


EDIT: it was "The Tenant" .

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074811/

ugh.

Yaris Hilton
07-12-2010, 08:09 PM
In any event who gives a rat's @ss about something that (may have) happened 35 years ago? :iono:

You've got to be kidding! The facts are not in doubt or dispute. This man gave a 13 year old girl alcohol and Quaaludes, and forced himself on her orally, vaginally and anally. He was 43. You're OK with that?

RedRide
07-12-2010, 08:27 PM
You've got to be kidding! The facts are not in doubt or dispute. This man gave a 13 year old girl alcohol and Quaaludes, and forced himself on her orally, vaginally and anally. He was 43. You're OK with that?

Exactly.
Polanski is a low life a-hole who still deserves to be prosecuted!

tomato
07-12-2010, 08:30 PM
You've got to be kidding! The facts are not in doubt or dispute. This man gave a 13 year old girl alcohol and Quaaludes, and forced himself on her orally, vaginally and anally. He was 43. You're OK with that?


No, I'm not but it's besides the point. the US had a chance to get him back, they blew it, next case!

I don't think what he did 35 years ago is relevant anymore, and certainly not an appropriate discussion topic for this audience.

So if you guys want to discuss the legal case, be my guest. Wanna discuss his movies, fine. Want to comment briefly that he was a weirdo, fine. Anything else, thread lightly, and I mean that :smile:

big lo
07-12-2010, 08:41 PM
This guy deserves to be in Rikers Island, they ll pass him around like a dirty mag. He needs to be in prison, and to the to death if possible, low lifes like that dont deserve to see the light of day. Hang um I say hang um.

JBougie
07-12-2010, 08:58 PM
^
I completely agree.

We all know what he did - I don't care if it happened 100 years ago ... he deserves to fry for it. He's disgusting. He should man up and spend some time in the US prison system - they'll welcome in properly.

tomato
07-12-2010, 09:01 PM
Here is the deal. I'm less worried about this guy (who will *never* set foot back in this country) than I am about a lot of people walking around freely, even after murdering people. They get a few years, if any, then parole, and out.

Yeah, the system is real fair.

JBougie
07-12-2010, 09:04 PM
Here is the deal. I'm less worried about this guy (who will *never* set foot back in this country) than I am about a lot of people walking around freely, even after murdering people. They get a few years, if any, then parole, and out.

Yeah, the system is real fair.

You have a VERY good point there .... our system is jacked up. :/ I've spent 6 years total so far in school for Criminal Justice (lol and still don't have my degree ... haha) and learned very quickly about how jacked up our system is.

big lo
07-12-2010, 09:10 PM
That goes to show you that the law needs to stick for some of the characters that are on our streets. I now in NY, people do get out on good behavior, then go on parole and repeat the same crime. If you commit murder, or do a homicide, rape, anything that has to do with harming a human being, should never see the light of day, thats my opinion. Hang um I say hang um.

JumpmanYaris
07-12-2010, 09:18 PM
Don't know him but I agree kill the mofo

tomato
07-12-2010, 09:19 PM
@biglo: they don't have money to keep people in jail. Here in CA, they are considering releasing people early because they simply don't have enough room for everybody. Too many criminals and not enough jails. Yes, we could build more jails (with our tax money)

Roman Polanski would probably just pay a fine and go back where he came from, and we'd have to fly him here with security and everything :rolleyes:

Have no illusions, the rich don't go to jail (rarely) so yeah, I don't see the point of expanding all those resources for something that happened so long ago, while people around here and shooting at each other and committing crimes every day and getting very little punishment for it, if any :rolleyes:

that's enough out of me :smile:

big lo
07-12-2010, 09:56 PM
For those who dont know, hang um, put them in the electric chair, lethal injection, get rid of them, no new jails needed, do on to other, thats my opinion.

RedHatch08
07-12-2010, 10:08 PM
Polanski may be a out, but closer to home ...

Another day in Detroit, and today we have an axe murder, and a 5 year old who got mauled to death by his parent's wolf hybrid dog.

There's crazy wherever you look.

tk-421
07-13-2010, 01:38 AM
In any event who gives a rat's @ss about something that (may have) happened 35 years ago? :iono:

By that reasoning, corrupt generals with a long history of war crimes that happened years ago should be freed (or at least not prosecuted) on the basis of their crime's longevity. Doesn't make much sense to me. :confused:

I do agree that certain current crimes should have a higher priority though. There's much to be done.

RedHatch08
07-13-2010, 01:49 AM
^

Yes. Much to be done.

Do you focus your energy on the child rapist from 35 years ago, or the axe murderer from today?

The girl (now woman) basically doesn't care any more (Google it), so how does that factor in? If the victim herself doesn't give a sh!t, should the rest of society?

Polanski is a piece of sh!t. No question. But at what point do we admit we are not going to be able to put him in US prison population? We want to put him in GP, but it won't ever happen. Let it go.

We all want to "school" Polanski the way he schooled that girl, but it will never happen. Accept it and move on.

tk-421
07-13-2010, 02:02 AM
If the victim herself doesn't give a sh!t, should the rest of society?

Yes. Who is to say he won't do it again to another innocent child?

Again, I do agree that there are more pressing matters right now, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do anything about it at some point. What sort of precedent would doing nothing make?

RedHatch08
07-13-2010, 02:12 AM
I can see both sides.

After 35 years ... it would be fulfilling to see Polanski put in GP. He would get passed around like a joint.

The sad part is, it will never happen. He stayed in Europe all these years for a reason.

He will never return to the US. He will never face GP in the states. NEVER.

He got away with it. The US legal system could not get him after 35 years. It will never get him.

tomato
07-13-2010, 02:12 AM
By that reasoning, corrupt generals with a long history of war crimes that happened years ago should be freed (or at least not prosecuted) on the basis of their crime's longevity. Doesn't make much sense to me. :confused:



If you're comparing war crimes to Polanski's case, then I'm the one who's confused.

Ask yourself who would benefit if Polanski was tried again? The victim? Not really. She's made it known that she isn't really interested in reliving all that and exposing the whole sordid story to a new generation of people. So tell me if she doesn't care, what's the point of going through this anyway?



Put your pitchforks away, people. Game over. :rolleyes:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XgZVVzrYN_w/RdCpHEcByQI/AAAAAAAAAII/SAtqaGhkR4I/s320/mob_pitchforks_small.jpg

RedHatch08
07-13-2010, 02:16 AM
Home arrest in Switzerland or freedom in many other countries?

What would you do?

I'll Swiss it out... if I had the choice.

tomato
07-13-2010, 02:16 AM
Yes. Who is to say he won't do it again to another innocent child?



puuuuuuuulheeeez!!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:

you don't honestly believe what you just wrote, do you?

At his age, he'd probably can't .. never mind.

RedHatch08
07-13-2010, 02:21 AM
If we boil things down:

RP is a child RAPIST. He drugged her and did the whole menu on her while she was unconscious.

If you rape a 13 yr old girl and get put in GP here, you may not live...

tomato
07-13-2010, 02:23 AM
What a wonderful thread, great choice people

tk-421
07-13-2010, 02:25 AM
If you're comparing war crimes to Polanski's case, then I'm the one who's confused.

I see. So it's OK for Polanski to do it, as long as not too many people are directly affected? When does one draw that line?

At his age, he'd probably can't .. never mind.

Child abuse doesn't stop at sex. But even if it did, there are plenty of people at his age with an active sexual lifestyle (ever heard of viagra? :rolleyes:).

tk-421
07-13-2010, 02:27 AM
What a wonderful thread, great choice people

I agree this thread should be closed. No possible good could come out of this topic.

tomato
07-13-2010, 02:29 AM
Don't mind if I do.

tomato
07-13-2010, 02:43 AM
I see. So it's OK for Polanski to do it, as long as not too many people are directly affected? When does one draw that line?

Child abuse doesn't stop at sex. But even if it did, there are plenty of people at his age with an active sexual lifestyle (ever heard of viagra? :rolleyes:).


I can't believe you just said this. :thumbdown:

You know, this is exactly why I didn't think this was an appropriate topic for this group of people, no offense.

I think the only reason people are interested in this is because it's high profile.

tk-421
07-13-2010, 03:06 AM
I can't believe you just said this. :thumbdown:

You know, this is exactly why I didn't think this was an appropriate topic for this group of people, no offense.

You're so wrapped up in your ideals, in what you think is right and/ or wrong... what you think you understand ...

I apologize if I said something that upset you. That was not my intention at all.

However, I do stand by what I said before. I also believe the fact that he has been roaming free all these years actually makes this even more important in the eyes of some people.

Everyone has an opinion about everything, and it should be treated as such. Getting angry at an idea is not very productive at all.

P.S.: If we aren't "wrapped in our ideals, or what we think is right and/or wrong", then what are we doing with our lives exactly?

tomato
07-13-2010, 03:45 AM
You're responding to an edited post, TK.

tomato
07-13-2010, 03:45 AM
I assume all of you have read the whole case file?

I'm not getting angry at an idea, I'm getting angry at the mob mentality and the lack of perspective on this whole thing.

You forgot about the victim's right in all that. Are you so wrapped up in wanting to do "the right thing" that you're gonna bulldoze your way trough it? Just curious.

SilverBack
07-13-2010, 04:32 AM
Released or not, he will burn in some kind of Hell eventually. IMO he's not getting away with it, but instead just a delay (and at age 76 it won't be too long of a delay).

But still, The Pianist: brilliant film!

Yaris Hilton
07-13-2010, 11:42 AM
Tomato, you're right that this isn't really a great topic for discussion on a Yaris enthusiasts' forum, so I won't press the matter further, but I believe you're firmly in the wrong in the position you've taken.

tomato
07-13-2010, 01:04 PM
I know what you believe, Paris Hilton.
Different people, different backgrounds, different viewpoints. :iono:

ChilliwackGuy
07-13-2010, 04:21 PM
I dunno - I have a 6 year old daughter - and I wouldn't want RP ever to be forgotten - I don't care if RP wishes we all forget it so he can go to sleep each night with his Oscar - and I don't care if the girl in the story is a forgiving Hawaiian housewife with kids of her own and that she wants to move on - it should not have happened

1stToyota
07-14-2010, 04:09 PM
Have you seen his movies, BTW? Holy cow :eek:

The guy is weird but brilliant at what he does. Or you could say he's brilliant at what he does but weird. Either way.

Agreed. Weird/sick but brilliant. Repulsion was a sweet movie. I've seen it 3 or 4 times. :thumbsup:

What happened was very unfortunate, and I'm suddenly reminded of something my grandfather use to say..."A stiff d*ck has no conscience."

Ayaz
07-14-2010, 04:27 PM
Here is the deal. I'm less worried about this guy (who will *never* set foot back in this country) than I am about a lot of people walking around freely, even after murdering people. They get a few years, if any, then parole, and out.

Yeah, the system is real fair.

Ok so he won't set foot back in the US...does that make him any less of a Criminal in the rest of the world? What is he does it to somone else...the mighty US :laughabove: should do what they always do...send the Delta force into Fance and bring him back there and feed him to the otehr prisoners at rikers.

Ayaz
07-15-2010, 04:41 PM
Might be hard...Fance is difficult to find on a map :biggrin:...plus he's in Switzerland the land of we see nothing , hear nothing and say nothing just let us keep your gold.
kidding.

I think we all should just drop it, what can we do about it? Nothing and it's pointless to get upset about this, we're just adding to his notoriety and exposure so let it just die...he will soon follow anyways

Not upset....Just saying!

tomato
07-15-2010, 07:58 PM
Ok so he won't set foot back in the US...does that make him any less of a Criminal in the rest of the world? What is he does it to somone else...the mighty US :laughabove: should do what they always do...send the Delta force into Fance and bring him back there and feed him to the otehr prisoners at rikers.

No need. He won't be pulling that kind of cr@p in France anytime soon ....

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-violent078.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

if ya know what i mean..

Of course, we could always drop a bomb or three over there and be done with the problem.