TGMO OW20 Oil Change

[ChilliwackGuy]

Recently - I just had my Yaris in for A/C service under warranty. They gave me a brochure for Toyota 0W20 oil changes - it's just at 7000KM - so another 1000 KM - and I will take it in for its first oil change to get all the swarf / debris out.

Is the Toyota 0W20 Synthetic ($53 CDN + 12% HST) worth it?

Or should I opt for the regular oil change?

I'm not a DIYer by any means.

[R2D2]

Did they specifically ok it for your Yaris?
I think they allow doubling the normal drain interval here in the states for vehicles approved for the 0W-20. The price you quoted sounds like a good deal if you don't want to do it yourself.

I'd go with the Toyota 0W-20 over their regular oil.

Any possible way you could post or quote the content of the brochure?

Thanks!

[ChilliwackGuy]

I tried to attach 1 page of the brochure - it's a tri-fold 6 page square brochure.

[sleey0]

Wow. Good to know as i am making the switch from rp 5w30 to tgmo 0w20.

Been hearing nothing but great things about toyos 0w20. Perfect for the tight nz engine.

[ChilliwackGuy]

I just had my 1st ever oil 0W 20 change on my 2010 Yaris last Saturday, July 31, 10 - paid about $60 CDN - and so far I can't say that I've noticed anything in terms of performance.

I was promised better mileage - which I've commented on in a diff thread - but based on doing the 1st oil change alone - and not because using 0W 20.

[sleey0]

Oil isn't something that I look for performance in, it is the long term protection and economical advantages of certain oils.

0w20 seems to me to be a perfect oil for the yaris.

[marcus]

then going thinner doesnt always protect better..

[Thai_Dang]

Go to walmart, get a 5 quart jug of "Mobil 1 0w-20 advanced fuel economy" for $21, its fully synthetic. Follow the pictures on this DIY: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9361&highlight=oil.

Changing the oil is the easiest thing you can do to a car, you just twist open the oil pan screw and let the oil leak out, put ~3.3 quarts of oil in, replace oil filter, and voila you're done. Good for 15k miles or 1 year, and use the extra $40 to buy steak.

[ChilliwackGuy]

I dunno know what 2 say - Toyota definitely hound u 2 use their services - I just got a 0w20 fridge magnet in the mail - complete with a tri fold folder - with a customized maintenance interval schedule for my Yaris - I can hardly blame Toyota - their sales were apparently down 7%

[severous01]

i can still get a 5q jug of mobil1 from walmart for 20 bux...and yes it comes in 0-20 cuz that's what i just put in there 2 weeks ago.

my total cost oil change was about 25 bux. so sure...you keep your $55 oil and filter and then still pay someone to put it in...

and by the way, a sale is only about 60% of the profit in a decent dealership. maintenance and services the rest.

[alan1828]

I use Motul 8100 on mine , $75 for 4litres. nice and clean.

[detroiter]

Since when has Toyota been calling for 0-20 in our Yaris? I always thought using 5-30 is what our cars called for.

[Hershey]

there was a T.S.B. giving the 5w-20 an okay . Not the 0w-20 . I would check with a few head techs from TOYO service departments to get approval for 0w-20 . Then get it in writing in person , by e-mail or fax stating that it won't void the warranty with that head techs signature . We did so by e-mail for the 5w-20 from the servive center where we bought the YARIS sedan . We then printed it out for our records . Better to be safe than sorry .

[detroiter]

Yeah Hershey, I knew their was an ok for the 5-20. Is the 0-20 given an ok for Yarii's in Canada due to the climate/latitude change?

[Hershey]

That I don't know . Call some TOYO service centers to see if there's an T.S.B. giving approval of the 0w-20 . Many TOYO head techs here in our area weren't aware of the 5w-20 T.S.B. . Most said not to use 5w-20 and stay with the 5w-30 stated in the owners manual and on the oil cap . Push them to look up the possible 0w-20 T.S.B. in their system . May not like it , but so be it . Let us know if you get approval of the 0w-20 . If given a go , get it in writing and signed . GOOD LUCK

[ChilliwackGuy]

Um - I should point out that my Toyota Dealership - Valley Toyota in Chilliwack BC Canada - ISN'T pushing the 0W-20 oil change - and they AREN'T DEFINITELY STATING IT'S NECESSARY FOR ANY SPECIFIC VEHICLE - they are just advertising it as an oil change option - and there is no specific advertising copy claiming it is better than the standard fossil fuel oil change - based on what I've discovered (in asking my neighbors who use the same dealership) - they are offering the standard fossil fuel oil change as default

I only got the 0W-20 oil change as I'm adding 250 KMs a day - 6 days a week to my baby Yaris 2010 - only time will tell if I will get it again.

[ChilliwackGuy]

QUICK UPDATE ON MY 2010 YARIS HB - 5 DR - BOUGHT IN JUNE 5, 2010

So far - after the initial OW-20 oil change - the Yaris has ran perfect!

It's 23,000 KM's old - and only 4 months old - and I'm taking it in tomorrow for its 2nd OW-20 Oil Change - and a tire rotation.

Based on 1 OW-20 oil change so far - I'd say it's WORTH THE EXTRA $$$ TO GET OW-20 OIL CHANGE - my gas mileage has increased. I get about 5L/100KMS.

[Astroman]

Mine did really well too when I used 0w-20. I just lost my amsoil provider so I now get Royal purple 5w-20 as it is easier to find.

[matanfr]

Hey guys,
I've seen in the owner's manual in my yaris (1.33L 1NR-FE engine) that they also recommend 0-20 weight oil,since 2009 (the year the manual was published).
But the dealership's mechanic in Israel told me that this would damage the engine (although the manual specifically recommends it,even over 5w-30 oil).

has anyone experienced side effects?bad start up?cranks?anything related to the low viscosity of the oil?
and another thing-why has it taken so long (over a year) to approve the 0w-20 oil in the US,while it was authorized in europe and Israel in the toyota manual?

[ChilliwackGuy]

I just took my Yaris in again for its 2nd 0W-20 oil change on October 16, 2010.

And still - there is no written documentation stating that it's recommended - or even approved for the Yaris.

I just remember hearing somewhere that synthetic oils are better than fossil fuel oils.

So - I'm at a 50-50 - I put about 200-230 KMs a day on my Yaris - and with 0W-20 it seems to run fine - so I'm thinking maybe just switch to reg oil and see what happens?

I should mention that I'm not the least bit mechanically inclined so I'm at the mercy of the stealership.

[matanfr]

I just took my Yaris in again for its 2nd 0W-20 oil change on October 16, 2010.

And still - there is no written documentation stating that it's recommended - or even approved for the Yaris.

I just remember hearing somewhere that synthetic oils are better than fossil fuel oils.

So - I'm at a 50-50 - I put about 200-230 KMs a day on my Yaris - and with 0W-20 it seems to run fine - so I'm thinking maybe just switch to reg oil and see what happens?

I should mention that I'm not the least bit mechanically inclined so I'm at the mercy of the stealership.


you put 200-230 KM on your yaris daily?that's 5600 Km approximately in a month! :eyebulge:My yaris is only 10900 Km after a year..
anyway,
If there is no written documentation or TSB on the subject,I think you should keep up to your owner's manual and stick to synthetic oil only.
The reason for synthetic oil is that it's less prone to shear and oxidization under extended perios of time and mileage.

what is your manufacturer's recommendation?

[2007yariz]

Go to walmart, get a 5 quart jug of "Mobil 1 0w-20 advanced fuel economy" for $21, its fully synthetic. Follow the pictures on this DIY: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9361&highlight=oil.

Changing the oil is the easiest thing you can do to a car, you just twist open the oil pan screw and let the oil leak out, put ~3.3 quarts of oil in, replace oil filter, and voila you're done. Good for 15k miles or 1 year, and use the extra $40 to buy steak.

:confused:Um..You put in 3.3 quarts of oil in your yaris? Although i drive the Yaris sedan, but i think we have the same engine. My owner's manual states 3.7 quarts of oil with the oil filter change and 3.4 without the oil filter change.

Also i don't see the point buying a 5 quart jug of oil when our car takes less than 4 quarts of oil. i just buy 4 bottles of oil.

[bankrobber]

:confused:Um..You put in 3.3 quarts of oil in your yaris? Although i drive the Yaris sedan, but i think we have the same engine. My owner's manual states 3.7 quarts of oil with the oil filter change and 3.4 without the oil filter change.

Also i don't see the point buying a 5 quart jug of oil when our car takes less than 4 quarts of oil. i just buy 4 bottles of oil.

Either way 3.7 or 3.3 will still be in operating range. I always buy 5 quart jug of Mobil1 Synthetic because if you buy 4 single quarts. You pay a much higher cost per quart. I save the extra and about every 3rd change I dont need to buy any oil. Last time I bought oil it was the same or more for 4 quarts as the 5 quart jug. Plus they are great for taking my used oil to AutoZone in.

[2007yariz]

I'd rather have more oil than less oil(less lubrication)

I don't drive as much as you do. I can barely rack up 3k miles in 6 months, so i change it twice a year, that extra quart of oil might get contaminated somehow. I really like the placement of the oil filter in our yaris, there are no wires or reserviors around it:) it's so easy to wrap it around with an oil filter wrench.