"Clunk" When Turning

[KRAZGRL]

I have a 2009 3-door with 14,750miles (I'm taking her in this upcoming week for the 15K)

I have noticed in the past 2 weeks that when I have the wheel completely cranked over to the left I hear this loud "clunk" when I accelerate from a stop. (Like making tight U-turns or turning into a parking space). It will also happen in reverse when the wheel is cranked over. I tested it out and it's fine for tight right turns.

Does this sound like it could be a CV boot issue? I'm going to try to investigate under the car again today to see if I can see anything torn, but haven't noticed anything when I checked a few days ago. :iono:

Now, I noticed this clunking sound shortly after I was forced to straddle debris on the freeway from an accident. I think I straddled someone's tail light... So, I don't know if that was the culprit.

I'll be bringing this up when I take it in for the tune up, but peace of mind is always nice when I commute 50+ miles several times a week.

Any input is quite welcomed. :biggrin:

[YarisSedan]

Could be a bad strut bearing or mount.

[yarrr]

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

[KRAZGRL]

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

I don't sit with my wheel turned... lol And I don't "slam" it on U-Turns or any turns. There are times where you just need to make a tight turn.

I was just giving an example. If I am turning into a parking space (or in the process of making a U-turn) it will make this sound. Even backing out of a tight spot where I have to turn the wheel to back up at an angle.

It never has made this sound before. It's not like I changed my driving.

[KRAZGRL]

Could be a bad strut bearing or mount.

That's what I'm wondering.. I jacked the car up today and looked at all the boots and everything is fine. No signs of trauma or any kind of leakage anywhere. :iono:

[Cutie Pie #2]

This has happened to my husbands van (not the yaris) it ended up being a bad wheel bearing they just repacked it, now the other one is doing it (should have gotten both done at same time).

My Yaris was doing something similar like that on turns, I took it in and they found rocks in the brake rotor area.

[127.0.0.1]

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

how in the HELL did you speculate all this from the OP ? :laughabove:

lay off the chronic, dude

[127.0.0.1]

That's what I'm wondering.. I jacked the car up today and looked at all the boots and everything is fine. No signs of trauma or any kind of leakage anywhere. :iono:

bad bearing, or bad cv joint, loose strut

should get professional diagnosis, or you may end up with one
wheel busted and non-steerable if something is going bad

[Yarus Maximus]

Take it to service immediately! You are covered up to 35k miles.

[yarrr]

how in the HELL did you speculate all this from the OP ? :laughabove:

lay off the chronic, dude

when I have the wheel completely cranked over to the left

That's how. There's multiple posts on here, and anywhere you look on the internet stating the damages from turning the wheel all the way to the lock.

Do you have anything useful to post, or just trolling, as is your MO these days.

[KRAZGRL]

That's how. There's multiple posts on here, and anywhere you look on the internet stating the damages from turning the wheel all the way to the lock.

Do you have anything useful to post, or just trolling, as is your MO these days.

Oh geeze... People need to stop reading into the wording and just imagine the scenario.

I used that terminology to let people know it's not just in simple turns... I don't have the wheel completely LOCKED over to the left, just more over than the typical 90 degree (or so) turn of the wheel, like for most turns at a street light.

Here:
Imagine.. you are waiting for a parking space on the left row. You are stopped so the car can pull out. Then you slowly pull up and turn LEFT (obviously you need to "crank" the wheel over more than you would for a turn at a light). As you begin to accelerate to move into the space.... "CLUNK".

Maybe a diagram would help others... :laugh:

[KRAZGRL]

Just scheduled my 15K for Wednesday. When talking to the service guy about this issue, he said that it could be a tire issue with how a tire is wearing. (They all look fine to me). I'll post up Wednesday with how things go.

[bobolinko]

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

Whoa... Farrrr outttt !!! Whatr we smokin here?
Sounds like more like a loose nut upstairs, if you ask me...

:iono:

[KRAZGRL]

Whoa... Farrrr outttt !!! Whatr we smokin here?
Sounds like more like a loose nut upstairs, if you ask me...

:iono:

Seriously, huh?

[yarrr]

Maybe your comprehension of the english language would help, your diagram did nothing for me. Completely cranked means only one thing. I smoke a lot of pot, but that has nothing to do with the situation. But, I must be really high because no matter how many times I re read my first post, I can't figure out how or why someone would take offense to it.

Did you figure out the problem yet? Or still clunking away and drawing pictures to help it out?

[Hershey]

Could be a brake pad hanging up . We had a 1st generation MATRIX that did the clunk / click thing . Over time it went away with wear . Also some 1st generation VIBES ( MATRIX ) we test drove did the same thing . Hopefully just a pad , not a CV joint or other . The top of the strut can do that . The bushings . Have you hit any nasty potholes ? That'll do it . Let us know what it turns out to be and good luck .

[KRAZGRL]

Maybe your comprehension of the english language would help, your diagram did nothing for me. Completely cranked means only one thing. I smoke a lot of pot, but that has nothing to do with the situation. But, I must be really high because no matter how many times I re read my first post, I can't figure out how or why someone would take offense to it.

Did you figure out the problem yet? Or still clunking away and drawing pictures to help it out?

Obviously you didn't see that I have an appointment tomorrow to take the car in.

But how did this get from a thread about help with my car to about my comprehension of the English language?

I said before that maybe I used the wrong terminology, but it seems like 99.9% of the people on this forum who read my post could understand what I was getting at. Maybe for the .1% (you) I needed to put it more simply and in stoner-speak.

Look: How about not smoking weed and not jumping to conclusions and just try to be helpful instead? I wasn't offended by your post, more so confused as how you came to some conclusions like me having my wheel turned while not moving or "slamming" it on U-Turns. To me, saying I "slam" it in U-Turns is more or less a stab on my driving.

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

I appreciate your concern, but you don't know me, my driving habits, nor my background in cars/education.

I would prefer that you not reply to any further posts in this thread as you are not helping any resolution as you do not even comprehend the situation.

[KRAZGRL]

Could be a brake pad hanging up . We had a 1st generation MATRIX that did the clunk / click thing . Over time it went away with wear . Also some 1st generation VIBES ( MATRIX ) we test drove did the same thing . Hopefully just a pad , not a CV joint or other . The top of the strut can do that . The bushings . Have you hit any nasty potholes ? That'll do it . Let us know what it turns out to be and good luck .

I'll definitely bring this up tomorrow when I take the car in. Thanks. :smile:

[KRAZGRL]

Okay...

I took the car in this morning for it's 15K service and mentioned the issue. They claim they were able to recreate it (I had some issues recreating the noise before I took it in since it was sprinkling this morning... not sure if the moisture/wet roads would play a part) and they said it's a normal noise from the steering stopper. I guess if you're trying to squeeze out of a parallel parking spot, for example, and have the wheel turned you may hear a horrendous clunking sound if you happen to go over a bump. :rolleyes:

I personally think it's a load of crap and I honestly don't think they recreated exactly what I heard. Especially since it only happens in one direction. :iono: I think I fell victim to the "car acting just fine the day you decide to take it in" scenario. lol

Anyway, It passed all visual inspections and supposedly has a clean bill of health. Maybe now that the tires were rotated, brakes cleaned, etc, the mysterious clunk will disappear. Either way, I sure hope the noise doesn't come back... :smile:

[yarrr]

lol.. the steering stopper... from turning the wheel completely....

/out

[Hershey]

yup , been there . Is frustrating .

[Lucas13]

Don't turn your wheel all the way, especially while stopped. Its hard on the power steering and dangerous. I make U-turns on 2 lane(each way) roads and when I start moving the wheel is still straight. Also, if your wheel is turned while you are stopped, and you get rear ended, you get pushed into oncoming traffic.

If its only one direction it sounds like you tweaked your P/S rack from slamming it on U-turns.

Power Steering? The Yaris doesn’t have one... :laugh:

[KRAZGRL]

lol.. the steering stopper... from turning the wheel completely....

/out


Like you haven't had to turn your wheel more than 90degrees to get out of a parking space?

Anyway, enough negativity!!!

PM sent.

[yarrr]

Power Steering? The Yaris doesn’t have one... :laugh:

Is this the troll yarrr thread and nobody told me? Maybe you should read up on the threads about pulling the P/S fuse to disable it, or read your manual, or look under the hood once in awhile.

Sorry for the negativity, but I called the problem and the cause, and I got nothing but "oh you're must be smoking something" from 2 people, and flak from the OP(whose problem I solved without a trip to the dealer)

anyways, problem solved, lessons still not learned, really out this time :biggrin:

[127.0.0.1]

Is this the troll yarrr thread and nobody told me? Maybe you should read up on the threads about pulling the P/S fuse to disable it, or read your manual, or look under the hood once in awhile.

Sorry for the negativity, but I called the problem and the cause, and I got nothing but "oh you're must be smoking something" from 2 people, and flak from the OP(whose problem I solved without a trip to the dealer)

anyways, problem solved, lessons still not learned, really out this time :biggrin:

but but but MY CAR DOESN'T DO DAT :thumbdown::smoking:

[Lucas13]

Is this the troll yarrr thread and nobody told me? Maybe you should read up on the threads about pulling the P/S fuse to disable it, or read your manual, or look under the hood once in awhile.

Sorry for the negativity, but I called the problem and the cause, and I got nothing but "oh you're must be smoking something" from 2 people, and flak from the OP(whose problem I solved without a trip to the dealer)

anyways, problem solved, lessons still not learned, really out this time :biggrin:

Dont get me wrong Im not making fun you, I had no idea about the other threads. :w00t:

[salmonz]

Okay...

I took the car in this morning for it's 15K service and mentioned the issue. They claim they were able to recreate it (I had some issues recreating the noise before I took it in since it was sprinkling this morning... not sure if the moisture/wet roads would play a part) and they said it's a normal noise from the steering stopper. I guess if you're trying to squeeze out of a parallel parking spot, for example, and have the wheel turned you may hear a horrendous clunking sound if you happen to go over a bump. :rolleyes:

I personally think it's a load of crap and I honestly don't think they recreated exactly what I heard. Especially since it only happens in one direction. :iono: I think I fell victim to the "car acting just fine the day you decide to take it in" scenario. lol

Anyway, It passed all visual inspections and supposedly has a clean bill of health. Maybe now that the tires were rotated, brakes cleaned, etc, the mysterious clunk will disappear. Either way, I sure hope the noise doesn't come back... :smile:

Weird, I've had the same problem for about a year now and no one is able to tell me what it is... oh could it be this, could be that, etc... no one really knows and I feel that your dealership is saying the same thing.

There is definitely an issue with either the shocks, ball joint (which is stupid how toyota designed theirs), cv joint, or steering rack.

Once I build up my tool collection, I'm taking apart my whole front end to inspect each and every part.

[thebarber]

have lowering springs?

could it be a loose endlink? maybe the endlink is binding on something? loose strut top nut?

with the one-nut setup on the front strut, the suspension moves a surprising amount....

crank your wheel all the way to whatever way you say clunks, then pop the hood....check out the top of your strut tower....i bet its sitting up....

the clunk COULD be the strut rubbing on the top of the strut tower as you slightly straighten out your wheel...

[POORSHA]

This may sound too easy, but I had a similar sound from my car and it was two loose lug nuts. Take a look it may be that simple.

[Vang]

i have the same noise as well but it seems to only happens during cold starts... im going to take it in when i hit 15k and see what it is

[KRAZGRL]

Weird, I've had the same problem for about a year now and no one is able to tell me what it is... oh could it be this, could be that, etc... no one really knows and I feel that your dealership is saying the same thing.

There is definitely an issue with either the shocks, ball joint (which is stupid how toyota designed theirs), cv joint, or steering rack.

Once I build up my tool collection, I'm taking apart my whole front end to inspect each and every part.

It's so frustrating. My car definitely still is making the sound (only on tight left turns). I think I may take it back and get the service guy in my and I'll pull in/out of a parking spot so he can hear the sound. I took it in and it was a very wet morning/still sprinkling and I don't think they heard the loud clunk sound.

In a way, it's kinda nice to know it's not just my car.

have lowering springs?

could it be a loose endlink? maybe the endlink is binding on something? loose strut top nut?

with the one-nut setup on the front strut, the suspension moves a surprising amount....

crank your wheel all the way to whatever way you say clunks, then pop the hood....check out the top of your strut tower....i bet its sitting up....

the clunk COULD be the strut rubbing on the top of the strut tower as you slightly straighten out your wheel...

Nope. Only exterior mods: strut bar & rear sway bar. When I took it in they did the "60-point inspection" and everything was fine. :iono:

This may sound too easy, but I had a similar sound from my car and it was two loose lug nuts. Take a look it may be that simple.

I doubt it's the lugs since I just had the tires rotated by the dealer... lol Still is making the sound.

i have the same noise as well but it seems to only happens during cold starts... im going to take it in when i hit 15k and see what it is

Does the noise only happen in one direction? Mine will happen simply by turning... doesn't matter if the engine is warmed up or not, it'll still happen.

[Lucas13]

There is a chance that is that same part that is responsible for this noise, Have anyone tried braking hard, I get up to 35miles and apply the brake hard, w/o locking the tires, and trying to pump it a little bit so the car bounce, I feel and hear this horrible clunk specially more on the passenger’s side, I was analyzing today the suspension and maybe the force of the caliper that is distributed on the suspension makes something to displace from its base it could be the ball joints from the control arms, this could be related to all the noises when parking forward and applying the brake. I definitely want to get to the bottom of this problem.

I’ve been having suspension noises since I bought the car with 13 miles only, the dealer has looked at this many times and they can’t find it, only one time they re-torque the subframe and I think it worked for some time, but the clunk returned 2 weeks later.

[Hershey]

have seen service not tighten lugs enough . Also , see many types of TOYOTAs old and new that are missing wheel covers . Could be whoever serviced the cars didn't put the wheel covers on properly . I always check them right on their premises whenever tires are removed . May pee them off , but I don't care . Have found a few to be loose .

[thebarber]

Nope. Only exterior mods: strut bar & rear sway bar. When I took it in they did the "60-point inspection" and everything was fine. :iono:


crank the wheel all the way to the left, pop the hood, and take a pick of the top of the strut towers...

[KRAZGRL]

have seen service not tighten lugs enough . Also , see many types of TOYOTAs old and new that are missing wheel covers . Could be whoever serviced the cars didn't put the wheel covers on properly . I always check them right on their premises whenever tires are removed . May pee them off , but I don't care . Have found a few to be loose .

I took my hubcaps off completely. I don't care for the look, so that's definitely not the issue. I'll check the tightness of the lugs later today.

crank the wheel all the way to the left, pop the hood, and take a pick of the top of the strut towers...

I'll take a pic later today and post it. :smile:

[shinlee]

I had a wierd clunk a few years ago when the car was new, someone a bolt inside the transmission that holds my driver side halfshaft in place came loose. I took it in, and took a tech on a drive WITH me, so I could personally show him what it did (none of that "sorry we couldn't get it to do it again" BS) and they were able to figure it out from there.

that's my clunk story

[NH3R717]

have lowering springs?

could it be a loose endlink? maybe the endlink is binding on something? loose strut top nut?

with the one-nut setup on the front strut, the suspension moves a surprising amount....

crank your wheel all the way to whatever way you say clunks, then pop the hood....check out the top of your strut tower....i bet its sitting up....

the clunk COULD be the strut rubbing on the top of the strut tower as you slightly straighten out your wheel...

I am having the 'clunk' suspension problem. I had coils put on about a month ago and it was fine until a couple of weeks after. The sound happens only from the right side of the car and when I hit a bump or am turning left and hit a bump (more frequently like this). It also happens at a certain point when I jack up the right side of the car. I thought the strut cap also, and from my jack and listen inspection it doesn't seem to come from there but from the lower part of the car, like the sub frame. When people say 'retorque' the sub frame bolts are they looking for a certain value or just cranking down on the bolt more.

If it is a bolt problem I was thinking of removing, applying some hardcore locktite and retorqueing the bolts to spec or with in a reasonable range (I don't know what that range is rite now).

[thebarber]

nh3r717, sounds like its likely the swaybar endlink....tighten the nut at either end...

if you jack up the car and one is loose, itll clunk as it slides in the hole, but nothing will appear loose when the suspension sags all the way down...

you can see the top of the endlink attached to the left side of the strut in this picture....

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae178/ncp91/VitzBP/July%2017%202010%20Install%20Day/DSC_7672.jpg

[OTA'sTOY]

Power Steering? The Yaris doesn’t have one... :laugh:

yes it does
E.P.S
electric power-assist steering

any car owners should really read their owners manual and learn to appreciate
the workings of their car

[NH3R717]

nh3r717, sounds like its likely the swaybar endlink....tighten the nut at either end...

if you jack up the car and one is loose, itll clunk as it slides in the hole, but nothing will appear loose when the suspension sags all the way down...

you can see the top of the endlink attached to the left side of the strut in this picture....

http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae178/ncp91/VitzBP/July%2017%202010%20Install%20Day/DSC_7672.jpg

Good call on the sway bar link, that was it. Thanks.