Would Americans Buy a Diesel Yaris? Would it Sell Well in North America?

[gabagooo]

As a follow up to my question about a 5 door Yaris selling well in the USA, my thoughts went to the diesel version of the Yaris. Do you think a diesel Yaris would sell well in Mexico, Canada or the USA? Would you consider owning one?

[vodkalush]

Diesel in NY = Pain in the Ass (or anywhare in the upper or upper east part of the country that see's below 20 degree weather yearly) due to the plug-in factor (unless it only applies to trucks).. so in some parts of the country yes, but overall I dont think so.

[acrbill]

Diesel is currently more expensive than premium fuel here. If they offered a turbo diesel that got 60mpg I would consider it.

[firefly1_0]

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what he said!

[KSIbucky]

Diesel is currently more expensive than premium fuel here. If they offered a turbo diesel that got 60mpg I would consider it.

hell ya

[swng]

I will certrainly consider a diesel Yaris. I almost bought a Smart-for-two (a diesel car) before I bought my present Yaris, but my wife and I liked the Yaris more when it was time to make a final decision between the two.

[Pars]

The Yaris is already the most fuel efficient gas engine in N.A and I like the high revving nature of the vvti engine.

I'd save the diesel engine for a heavier car with better noise insulation.

[60 Somethings]

Just filled-up for $2.49/Gal.

Down the street diesel was going for $3.11/gal.

Not adverse to a diesel per se, but it would be nice if there was a positive economic incentive. Due to needed polution controls, such cars will likely be priced higher, too.

[superjens]

I would, but only if the additional cost of buying one with a diesel motor would pay for itself in fuel economy savings within a year. Otherwise the loss in power combined with the extra cost just wouldn't make sense to me.

[Driver]

As a follow up to my question about a 5 door Yaris selling well in the USA, my thoughts went to the diesel version of the Yaris. Do you think a diesel Yaris would sell well in Mexico, Canada or the USA? Would you consider owning one?

You betcha I'd buy one. My brother has a 2000 VW Beetle diesel and gets 50 mpg and his car weighs more than my 2007 Yaris Sedan. Bring it on and I'll trade in for one in a heartbeat. Plus with biodiesel becoming available on the east coast I'm even more enthusiastic. :thumbup:

[TrancosRt]

YUP. I know what a small diesel engine can so with compact cars (My dad had a Peugeot 206 Diesel back in Argentina and that lil car hauled ;) ).
Plus a diesel engine is extremely reliable and you can make your own fuel with a few mods. It's a win-win!

[ECHOKnight2000]

I would buy a diesel hybrid if they made those and from what I heard its a possibility...but if the diesel got like 60mpg or more then it would be an incentive to get it and pay more but yield more mpg than a conventional gas engine. Toyota partnered up with Izusu to make small diesels in the coming years or even year so if the Yaris' popularity continues I'm sure Toyota will put it in there as an option. Maybe the next Corolla?? Well see!:thumbsup:

[hystria]

Diesel is lazy. Turbo Diesel would be nice, if it could be less then 1000$ over the gasoline engine, that could be quite interesting.

[Billstein]

As a follow up to my question about a 5 door Yaris selling well in the USA, my thoughts went to the diesel version of the Yaris. Do you think a diesel Yaris would sell well in Mexico, Canada or the USA? Would you consider owning one?

I without a doubt would buy the diesel..

[paultyler_82]

with the advent of low sulphur diesel and possible bio-diesel in the States, the fact that newer Diesel engines are cleaner and more efficient than gas engines, you'll likely find that many more persons in the US will be willing to buy diesels, I would, diesel's not much more expensive here than gasoline, just about 2 cents a gallon higher than midgrade

[Reddington]

Diesel engines in general are more efficient, more reliable and have better low end torque. I would definately buy one.

[Biggie™]

I would, but only if the additional cost of buying one with a diesel motor would pay for itself in fuel economy savings within a year. Otherwise the loss in power combined with the extra cost just wouldn't make sense to me.


Just an FYI, but the Turbo Diesel Yaris in Europe is faster than the U.S. Yaris. It also has twice the performance potential as the gasoline engine.

[gabagooo]

It seems that there may be support for a diesel in the Yaris. I read something that Honda was going to be bringing diesels to the U.S. market in the next few years.

[BMGYaris]

Of course there is a market, its anybody who knows anything about new diesel engines:)
my roomate told me that they are very inefficient and produce huge billowing black clouds all the time while yo uare driving......and then that guy just said they had less power on this very thread....but if you know what your talking about at all, you would def. be interested:) I know just a little bit though, but i would want one.

[paultyler_82]

Well, BMG... it's because of diesel's history here in the States that so many US consumers are misinformed. Until recently, US Diesel was limited to 500ppm sulphur content, old diesel cars in the states tended to smell horrible, and were somewhat loud, they also had problems later in life due to sulphur buildup, and larger high torque engines, such as those in semis and large trucks do tend to have a sort of black, thick exhaust smoke. New emissions enforcements are being put in place on Diesels however, and new standards in the US call for less than 20ppm sulphur content, much closer to the worldwide standard, and a lot cleaner... probably even moreso than gasoline. The new low content standard for US Diesel will probably clear up most of the problems diesels of yesteryear had

[why?]

It really depends on the price. With the new emissions regulations coming in I can't see a diesel engine being inexpensive, combine that with the higher priced diesel, and the gas mileage would have to be a huge improvement for the thing to sell. Of course, with the extra tourque it could still sell, but we will have to see what the new emissions regulations do to the price of diesel cars in the USA.

At the moment only Honda and GM claim they can create a diesel engine that can meet the new emissions regulations.

[Reddington]

The new emissions on diesel formulation has already been put into effect. Its not a difficult thing to build an engine that burns cleaner diesel..except maybe in California. Obviously the current diesels on the road right now are running just fine on this new formulation. And typically a diesel gets 20-30% more mpg, so unless diesel is more than 20-30% more than regular 87, then I'd say don't get one.

[Pars]

The gas engine might not have as much pulling power as the diesel, but it will get up to speeds faster then an equivalent diesel engine. The Yaris 1.5L gas engine can reach 60mph about a 1 second faster then the 1.4L diesel.

On the road I'm always running into a VW 1.9T diesel that tries to keep up, but it only takes one gear worth of rpm to blow around them.

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/toyota-yaris-1.4-d4-d-range-1003286.html

[nsmitchell]

How about what Banks is doing for the big American turbo-diesels! Incredible jumps in Horsepower and Torque! I think the door would be open to a lot more HP/torque mods.