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sleey0
07-28-2010, 12:33 AM
Just thought I would chime in here for a bit...

Got my TRD exhaust installed today and man does it sound and look good. I was debating getting a greddy or something similar but they look and sound too ricey for me. Those huge cans in the back just stand out too much IMO. My yaris is kinda subdued and low-key. Plus it is fully stainless and where I live I am going to need it:)

The TRD is perfect for my needs. Not too loud and a very nice deep idle tone.

So, I know TRD gets bashed a lot but I am quite impressed with it and wanted to let anyone know who is sitting on the fence that it is def worth-while. Especially since it isn't any more $$ than other aftermarket exhaust systems.

Next up is Injen CAI (I couldn't swallow $300 for TRD CAI, but $200 I can handle and was my limit).

Vioz
07-28-2010, 01:30 AM
I got lucky with my trd CAI and found a private sale for 250 lol brand spanking new, my first mod

2007tRD
07-28-2010, 02:11 AM
I would stick with the TRD parts.The Toyota Engineers are very smart and im sure they designed their CAI to work best with their engines.Im not saying anything bad about Greddy,Apexi,HKS,or any other parts companies,but ask a honda guy if he'd rather have AEM or MUGEN...subaru with SPT...nissan with NISMO

severous01
07-28-2010, 10:32 AM
they all engineer these things...and they'll all put out about as much power.

one thing i noticed and i'm going to fix when i get money is that on my AEM dry setup, it gets wet when it rains. like sucking in water coming off the hood. runoff coming off windshield/hood goes straight into the airbox. one day it flash flooded here and my car wouldnt start for 2 days...and i didnt even drive it in the rain, just sat there. any way, i'd get that hood seal from garm if you order any cai. well, i'd get it any way.

thebarber
07-28-2010, 10:37 AM
I would stick with the TRD parts.The Toyota Engineers are very smart and im sure they designed their CAI to work best with their engines.Im not saying anything bad about Greddy,Apexi,HKS,or any other parts companies,but ask a honda guy if he'd rather have AEM or MUGEN...subaru with SPT...nissan with NISMO

don't kid yourself, TRD farms out the work to a rebutable manufacturer like AEM and eibach to make their parts...they just get painted red and sold thru a toyota dealer at 150% the cost of the "lesser" parts you can order online somewhere like microimageonline.com

Astroman
07-28-2010, 11:58 AM
AEM makes the TRD CAI for our yaris. Only real difference other than a logo and price is the TRD comes standard with a bypass filter, while it's optional on the AEM. I got my AEM slightly used (and without 2 screws and the license plate frame) for $150. I do miss my TRD exhaust (I had the JDM version), but for the price I could have gone with a better custom setup. Which is what I will be doing.

sleey0
07-28-2010, 12:24 PM
For $300 I think the TRD exhaust was worth it.

At least, for my tastes as everyone is different.

I didn't realize that the CAI on a yaris was so easily soaked. Is this a common problem with all yaris that have a CAI installed?

sleey0
07-28-2010, 12:27 PM
Just ordered the hood seal and i do thank you for the heads-up!

Astroman
07-28-2010, 01:49 PM
For $300 I think the TRD exhaust was worth it.

At least, for my tastes as everyone is different.

I didn't realize that the CAI on a yaris was so easily soaked. Is this a common problem with all yaris that have a CAI installed?

The JDM version was over $360 new, I got lucky and got one used by DC sports for dyno comparison back in 2006 from a guy who only had his Yaris a few months, and they gave him the exhaust.

I didn't have more than 2 problems (both in Portland with torrents of rain, lots of rain on the road, and both times it was because of a truck with NO mud flaps who cut in front of me) in over three years with my CAI, but I left my fender liner in, and I even modified my OEM foglight cover for better airflow and air cooling. Now with the RS front end I'm not running fogs, left the openings flowing free (with guard) and I'm still fine.

sleey0
07-28-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks, astroman.

For $29 I guess the hood seal can't hurt. lol

I am def leaving the fender liner in. I never intended not to - that would be stupid as the filter is so close to the tire and road.

pennyracer
07-28-2010, 04:47 PM
dont forget trd gives you 100,000 mile warranty if put on by the toyota dealer no other after market company can offer that plus a part built just for your aplication is the only way to go just have to spend the cash to get the trd parts but i have to say when i called trd a little while back for help on the spring kit i purchased they did nothing to help me with the issue of having to trim the bump stops to gain the better ride they claim you dont need too well it rode like shit till i trimmed the bump stops to gain a little bit of suspension travel that you need to get the ride back i like the products but the customer service is for shit

2007tRD
07-29-2010, 03:58 PM
im not dissagreeing with you about AEM making "some" TRD parts,but is there documentation on this?or is all this merely peoples opinons?why is the TRD cai not street legal,but AEM is?there is obviously a difference in the two products.

kou
07-29-2010, 04:22 PM
im not dissagreeing with you about AEM making "some" TRD parts,but is there documentation on this?or is all this merely peoples opinons?why is the TRD cai not street legal,but AEM is?there is obviously a difference in the two products.

Only the manurfacturer can get a carb legal sticker,because toyota rebranded the AEM intake as TRD it is not street legal, if they sold it as an AEM intake it would be street legal.

Astroman
07-29-2010, 04:22 PM
im not dissagreeing with you about AEM making "some" TRD parts,but is there documentation on this?or is all this merely peoples opinons?why is the TRD cai not street legal,but AEM is?there is obviously a difference in the two products.

Because Toyota can't get 50-state approval (thanks CA) they say it's for off road use only. Releases them from liability. AEM makes the intake for TRD for the Yaris. The TRD version just comes with the optional bypass valve (this is not opinion, fact). TRD outsources a lot of their parts. For example TRD Sportivo shocks use KYB bodies but TRD valves.

Ah got beat to it. It's hard to find "documentation" as Toyota really would rather you buy their TRD parts, as opposed to just going with who made them in the first place.

fnkngrv
07-29-2010, 04:38 PM
I am curious, if you were to perform a 2zz swap could you use the same TRD muffler?

Billiam
07-29-2010, 05:55 PM
AEM making TRD intakes (actually just rebadging them) for 1NZ apps is old news. The "TRD" CAI in my xA even had a small AEM decal on the box it came in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/BlkS/IMG_2383-1.jpg

2007tRD
07-29-2010, 10:54 PM
The fact that an AEM sticker came on the TRD box would be enough proof...but....I would like to see inside diameter measurements to compare.I sent an e-mail to AEM tech support to verrify these allegations.

By the way,nice looking engine bay!

sleey0
07-29-2010, 11:47 PM
It is well known that Toyota's TRD division doesn't make the products. They hand pick the products that test the best and are the most compatible/stable with there engines.

2007tRD
07-30-2010, 12:26 AM
Like i said in post #12,im not dissagreeing that the TRD intake may not be made by Toyota.Im interested if there is a difference between a standard AEM CAI and the TRD CAI.

Brian
07-30-2010, 12:28 AM
Like i said in post #12,im not dissagreeing that the TRD intake may not be made by Toyota.Im interested if there is a difference between a standard AEM CAI and the TRD CAI.

The only difference is probably the bypass filter on the TRD CAI.

2007tRD
07-30-2010, 12:44 AM
The only difference is probably the bypass filter on the TRD CAI.

I'm interested in facts and data, not opinion.There is enough misconception going around, lets not mislead ourselves due to laziness.

Brian
07-30-2010, 12:53 AM
I've had the TRD CAI for 3 years now and would never buy another one. The bypass filter cracked after about 1 1/2 years. It doesn't come with a warranty either because its for off road use only.

2007tRD
07-30-2010, 12:57 AM
Now that is some very usefull information in making your decision.how much did a replacement cost?

Brian
07-30-2010, 01:01 AM
Now that is some very usefull information in making your decision.how much did a replacement cost?

I got lucky and another member removed his and gave it to me for the cost of shipping. Otherwise, I would have had to buy a whole new intake. I contacted TRD about it and they said that they don't sell just the bypass filter by itself.

pennyracer
07-30-2010, 11:37 AM
here in grants pass oregon we dont have smog rules like most of the other states so i can do anything i like pretty cool unlike ca bullshit rules ware i use to live or many years good luck run what you want but i dont thing there is enough gain to change the stock one and have too hear all the extra noises just my thaughts i think they all look shitty once installed but im 40 years old maybe thats the problem lol

pennyracer
07-30-2010, 11:46 AM
i dont know about you legal or not i have never been pulled over and asked can i look under the hood with a yaris no cop will think your packing enough power to worry about i do wonder if it will pass the visual smog check that i was use too in ca ? thats all i would worry about shit the vehicle code book reads no supension mods and alot of people lift and lower cars all the time and for the most part nothing gets said till you take it to the extreme like some . do what you like thats what makes the US a great place to live freedom like no other place i know of

sleey0
07-30-2010, 05:25 PM
There are no smog inspections where i live so i am not worried about that.

Billiam
07-30-2010, 05:56 PM
The fact that an AEM sticker came on the TRD box would be enough proof...but....I would like to see inside diameter measurements to compare.I sent an e-mail to AEM tech support to verrify these allegations.

By the way,nice looking engine bay!

Thanks for the compliment. I remember for a while, the picture that was given to dealers for the TRD CAI showed the actual AEM labled intake...LOL. The differnence was, the "TRD" came standard with the water bypass valve, a "TRD" decal and an AEM oiled filter with "TRD" stamped on the top.

BTW, 2.25" diameter for both the AEM and "TRD".

2007tRD
07-30-2010, 08:19 PM
Thanks for the compliment. I remember for a while, the picture that was given to dealers for the TRD CAI showed the actual AEM labled intake...LOL. The differnence was, the "TRD" came standard with the water bypass valve, a "TRD" decal and an AEM oiled filter with "TRD" stamped on the top.

BTW, 2.25" diameter for both the AEM and "TRD".

I got the e-mail from AEM, and they verified they make the intake.So nobody should get the TRD, buy the AEM and put a TRD sticker on it...lol.how much was the TRD CAI?

cali yaris
07-30-2010, 08:23 PM
Glad you got that settled.

AEM intakes in stock, FYI. :thumbsup:

Astroman
07-30-2010, 09:33 PM
I got the e-mail from AEM, and they verified they make the intake.So nobody should get the TRD, buy the AEM and put a TRD sticker on it...lol.how much was the TRD CAI?

Great work :thumbsup:

TRDsparks has it listed for $305 http://www.trdsparks.com/displayparts.php?Mdl_dtl=543&Part_cat=2&parts_id=1299

But you can get the AEM cheaper from Garm :biggrin:

sleey0
07-30-2010, 10:15 PM
And that is why I didn't bother to buy the TRD intake. For less I got a better (IMO) intake (injen sp2024blk).

At least the exhaust, while not made by TRD, is unique.

Billiam
07-30-2010, 11:01 PM
......lol.how much was the TRD CAI?
At the time I had a TRD theme going on with the Egg, that's why I went with it. I got a great deal on it though, as TRD was having a "sale" at the time. I think I got it through Sparks for $185.....cheaper than the AEM at the time.

fnkngrv
07-30-2010, 11:03 PM
Just as a heads up I found out further clarification for Maine today as a friend was mailed a letter about the changes. As long as the exhaust does not go above 95db you can run it on your car in Maine.

2007tRD
07-30-2010, 11:34 PM
Now that we have all of the facts on the TRD blasphemy, what intake would be best...between CAI's and SRI's?

fnkngrv
07-30-2010, 11:44 PM
Now that we have all of the facts on the TRD blasphemy, what intake would be best...between CAI's and SRI's?


maybe it is just me, but the OP was about TRD Exhaust not the CAI


:offtopic:

2007tRD
07-31-2010, 01:12 AM
and then it switched to TRD products, then to AEM's involvement in the TRD intake...i didnt know the topic police were patrolling...sorry.

sleey0
07-31-2010, 11:05 PM
maybe it is just me, but the OP was about TRD Exhaust not the CAI


:offtopic:

I don't mind really.

I found it interesting that the thread went in the direction it did. lol

fnkngrv
07-31-2010, 11:26 PM
shrugs...just when a thread starts to go a bunch of pages people will follow and it is nice when you can actually follow something that provides the best info ongoing in regards to the OP.

Qmobile
07-31-2010, 11:28 PM
hate to break this to you guys but this has been beaten TO DEATH lots of times. Did you know that the TRD Exhaust is made by Borla? but it was quote entertaining for me to read through this

2007tRD
07-31-2010, 11:46 PM
Where did you get the information that Borla makes the TRD exhaust?

Qmobile
08-01-2010, 05:37 AM
where did I get the information? back before the hack it was like common knowledge. Fact I had a thread on here long time ago that breaks down what the TRD parts are really.....lemme see if MAYBE I can find it doubt it but lemme look

Update:
Did'nt find the one I was looking for but then again I think it was just before the hack too so.

krusty
08-01-2010, 08:26 PM
the original trd USA exhaust for the yaris hatch was made by Borla for trd USA but the new trd USA exhaust is manufactured by someone else maybe Magnaflow like the sedan exhaust

Castaway
08-01-2010, 09:36 PM
My dealer-installed "performance" exhaust has Bolra stamped on it, but i've never been told it was a TRD one.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 12:00 AM
well I must have the "old" one cause I was always told by reliable sources on here that it was made by Borla, it's just a Borla muffler with a TRD stamped tip basically

big lo
08-02-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes sir!! You are correct.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 08:56 AM
Yes sir!! You are correct.

I know I am:headbang:

Where did you get the information?

Need I explain more?

2007tRD
08-02-2010, 02:33 PM
I just got the sedan TRD sport Exhaust today....no "Borla" stamp on this one...

Astroman
08-02-2010, 02:44 PM
My TRD Version S (Vitz) exhaust didn't have Borla stamped on it either, just TRD and the part no. I miss it.

2007tRD
08-02-2010, 03:30 PM
I guess this means I need to send toyota an e-mail in order to find the "real" manufacturer of the non-borla systems...

Astroman
08-02-2010, 03:31 PM
I'd be interested to find out as well just to know.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 03:36 PM
I just got the sedan TRD sport Exhaust today....no "Borla" stamp on this one...

Well mine I don't believe has ANY stamp, other than the tip having TRD stamped/embossed on it VERY noticeable I mite add. Maybe it's possible they changed since I got my system, witch was bout 3-4 years ago. I could be completely wrong to I ain't sayin "I'm right and your wrong" or anything to anybody for that matter. Fact this gets me thinking now if I DO have a part number or what not on mine, mite check that here in a lil bit.

Astro, you have the JDM version right? So I can see why it would have an actual TRD part# or PTR # I believe the code for TRD parts.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 03:39 PM
I guess this means I need to send toyota an e-mail in order to find the "real" manufacturer of the non-borla systems...

That prolly be best to end all confusion. While your at it you could see who makes the other TRD parts for the Yaris, again to end all this confusion

I'd be interested to find out as well just to know.

+1

2007tRD
08-02-2010, 03:49 PM
I just got off the phone with TRD tech support[they don't e-mail].They told me they cant give out any information regarding their exhaust due to its proprietary nature....they wouldnt even tell me if it was a forein or domestic manufacturer...ouch

I also sent Borla an e-mail....just got to wait for their response.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 03:51 PM
well that suks lol

Astroman
08-02-2010, 03:56 PM
That prolly be best to end all confusion. While your at it you could see who makes the other TRD parts for the Yaris, again to end all this confusion

Perhaps a new, sticky'd thread could be made with the info for reference.

Qmobile
08-02-2010, 04:01 PM
^^yeah I agree just the "End All Be All" type of thing. I know this much the pedals and Shift knob(the round ball type) are from OBX, I know this b/c last time I checked they were listed as "OBX" brand

Astroman
08-02-2010, 04:05 PM
and TYC does the tails, but they aren't listed as TRD.

2007tRD
08-02-2010, 04:14 PM
How do we make the TRD referance end-all?

Astroman
08-03-2010, 02:15 AM
Just start a new thread with information pertaining to who makes the part, and any references if available. One of us mods can sticky the thread for easy finding.