16"x7.0 + 44 Rims

[Thalmes]

I'm currently eyeing on the

WORK Emotion CR Kai 16"x7.0+ 44 ...

Just wondering will it fit onto my 2009 Yaris 5 dr hatchback without rubbing the fender when I've lowered it . I don't want to order something online which I cannot use when it gets here .

Is the width of 7.0 acceptable for a Yaris ? :confused::confused:

Experience and feedback are greatly appreciated !

[ruimond]

16x7 is fine.

I run 17x7 +40, and im lowered too.

Good to see another Perth Yaris owner. Not many of us on the forums Haha.

[hazzy]

pm spookz if you still need more information
he runs the 16" cr kais or 15's im not sure :\

[lunjiaow]

The offset of that will be fine and you wont rub when lowering.

[Thalmes]

It's good to hear that . The supplier has the last set as well .

As for the springs , what can you recommend ?I was looking at Tein S Tech and Eibach Pro Kit . Any place that I can go to get springs and installation including wheel alignment and fitting ? I want to do everything at once .

As for 16x7.0+44 , I'll be using 205/45R16 . Am I right ? How low should I go with 16" ? 20mm or 30mm ?

Helps are much appreciated ! Really want to make my Yaris shine and prove my friends wrong !

My car is the 1.3 cc if this matters .

[lunjiaow]

At first me and ruimond used pedders springs. They are good, but i upgraded to coilovers and ruimond has changed his rear springs to king springs and left the front as pedders.
You could try any suspension store and they can help you out with install and wheel alignment.
Dont even bother trying to prove your friends wrong haha. They will still have a laugh at you. =) I get laughs for it but i dont mind as im saving money as im not spending as much as my friends are on their cars.

[Thalmes]

Are pedders springs good as In handling ? I heard that kings spring are quite hard and stiff . Is that true ?

I might be going for 17" , went to a local tyre store today and got good offers . Would not bother with branded cause It's not a performance car and is expensive to maintain.

I just want something that looks good .

What do you reckon ?

Is it you or ruimond who changed his headlight and taillight ? Looks superb !

[lunjiaow]

Yeah its not too bad for what you pay i guess. Im not sure about king springs. You will have to ask ruimond.
Yeah 17s will look nice. I've gone thru 17s and 16s, now im looking for a set of 15s to roll around in for daily comfort.

I have changed my rear tail lights and ruimond has headlights.

[Thalmes]

Do you mind telling me that where did you get your lights ? I'm kinda interested in switching them.

Is it possible for you to help me get them ?

[spookz]

Hi there!

I am indeed running the CR KAIs in 16x7 +44. The fitment is fine. The rear will look nicer with some 10/13mm spacers - I'm running 7.5'ish mm spacers in the rear. I'm currently lowered on Tanabe NF210's, which lower the car by 1.1/1.3" (F/R). I'm currently running the rims with 195/50R16 tyres and they are fine. I'm considering 205/50R16 next time around, because 195/50R16 is way too expensive.. Just so you know, the 195/50R16 is closest to the OEM rolling diameter.

Here's a photo for your reference:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4823576270_59f5428630.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kennethtao/4823576270/)

Hope that helps!
Kenneth

[ruimond]

Are pedders springs good as In handling ? I heard that kings spring are quite hard and stiff . Is that true ?

I might be going for 17" , went to a local tyre store today and got good offers . Would not bother with branded cause It's not a performance car and is expensive to maintain.

I just want something that looks good .

What do you reckon ?

Is it you or ruimond who changed his headlight and taillight ? Looks superb !

King springs are abit softer actually, but not to much difference between the two. The coil actually looks different after getting it, but a few people have said they are the same spring. Which might not be the truth.

How much of a drop are you wanting? Pedders/Kings that you can source locally don't give as much of a drop as the TEINS S.Techs which is 1.9"f/1.9"r i think.

As has been said in the earlier post i have just mixed pedders at the front and kings at the rear. Only did that as the King rear's sit abit lower then the pedders rear's.

If your keen and not wanting the lowest ride but an ok amount of drop, im willing to sell my set of pedders rear springs at a decent price. They have hardly any KM's on them maybe 10,000-15,000km at most or less. I can meet up with you or something.

Then you can just buy a set of new front pedders springs to match, would save you abit of $$$.

Let me know what you decide on, as their just sitting in the box doing nothing. Haha.

Headlights or Tails you might be able to get something from Ebay, otherwise u'll have to source it from out of Australia.

Cheers :thumbup:

[Thalmes]

Spookz - hey nice rims you have there ! I might be going for a 17" . I'll be going to the tyre store tomorrow . Quite excited !!

Ruimond - I'm looking at brand new . Sorry man . So where did you source your lights ? Were the springs comfortable ? Let it be kings or pedders .

I don't want to go too low because I have to pick people up most of the time. what store can I go to to get a good deal for springs ?

I'm going for either 16 or 17 . So a drop of roughly 10mm ? ?

What's the legal limit ?

[ruimond]

No worries.

Yeah its not to bad, its not going to be the most comfortable without upgrading your shocks as well. But its not bad at all.

Pedders and Kings give more then 10mm of a drop. And its still abit high in the rear. Haha. Think their both between 25-30mm drop. And may settle abit over time maybe 5mm more possibly.

Not sure what the legal limit is, but if you go with either brand its gonna be fine. As their heights are legal.

I got my headlights from Ebay, but i don't use them anymore.

Cheers

[spookz]

The drop is not dependent on your rim size. As long as you use the correct size tire to maintain the original rolling diameter, then a car with 16" rims with 1.5" drop, will be the same height as the same car with 17" rims and a 1.5" drop - as long as the rolling diameter of the tires are the same. I hope that makes sense.

I'm unsure of the legal limit in WA, but in NSW we're legally covered by insurance up to 2" from factory size. And rim width can be increased by 1-1.5", I forget which it is.

Your car will sit at a nice practical height for a daily that needs to pick customers with a 1.5" drop. 2" and you might scrub on dips like crazy with a full load in the rear.

[Thalmes]

Ruimond - oh you're not using them anymore ? Why not ? Planning to sell them ? I might be interested . Haha

Spookz - so a 1.5" would be ideal for either 16" and17" ? I hope I get this right. I don't pick people up everyday . It's just sometimes when I'm going out with friends or family coming to visit me. other than that it's only me . so what do you reckon ?

I wanna make my car low but not that low. was looking at lovells but I'm not sure which model . How did you guys get spring for toyota yaris ? Mine is a NCP90 and some springs doesn't even have this. I know tat kings and tanabe does .

[junorico24]

Cool..very informative.Sometimes I have passengers in the Yaris.What's the best drop so you don't scrub? Stock shock + kings spring combo will be all right, right? Its cheaper than Coils.So from what I read here most don't bother changing the stock shocks just the spring might as well do that to save cash.Roughly how much would is cost to install the springs?

Thanks.

[ruimond]

Ruimond - oh you're not using them anymore ? Why not ? Planning to sell them ? I might be interested . Haha

I wanna make my car low but not that low. was looking at lovells but I'm not sure which model . How did you guys get spring for toyota yaris ? Mine is a NCP90 and some springs doesn't even have this. I know tat kings and tanabe does .

Yeah im not using them anymore. Actually Lunjiaow has them at the moment. Their kinda stuffed up on the lens, i tried to repair the peeling clear coat but made it worse. So he tried to fix it to but doesn't look the same. Unless you can experience with repairing the clear coat layer of a headlight then im sure their avaliable lol. But otherwise i'd just get some new ones.

Yeah lovells has springs too, i think WA Suspensions in Osbourne Park stock them. You can also try them for Kings. I heard they may be able to order TEIN too. Give them a ring maybe.

Yeah NCP90 is the same as ours, but sometimes it might say NCP91 i think. Depends on the manufacturer.

All the brands you already mentioned have springs for our cars. TEIN, Kings, Pedders, Lovells, Tanabe, TRD and some others. I'd say just go for something local if your not to fussed about being to low.

If you want i might be able to show you my car with Pedders/Kings Combo with 17's to give you an idea of how it looks in person. Then you can decide from there if you want. I'm south of the river, so if you somewhere around there i can show you sometime when your free. Not sure if you want to close your eyes to the other mods i have, it might get you wanting other things LOL.:laugh:

Cheers

[ruimond]

Cool..very informative.Sometimes I have passengers in the Yaris.What's the best drop so you don't scrub? Stock shock + kings spring combo will be all right, right? Its cheaper than Coils.So from what I read here most don't bother changing the stock shocks just the spring might as well do that to save cash.Roughly how much would is cost to install the springs?

Thanks.

Yeah kings springs with stock combo is fine. You won't scrub, just make sure you run not to wide of a tyre a 205 or 215 in 16 or 17 is fine.

Think cost to install varies from different places, but i paid about $600-650+ for my pedders springs. As its about 3hrs+ of labour. Though you might be able to get away with cheaper at other places.

[Thalmes]

Hmm , I went to a local springstore. They quoted me about $650 for kings springs , labour as it will take about 2 hours .

So I think I'll be going for it ! Got my 17" and it looks great !

Anyway, guys with the Scion badge on the yaris . Do you change it yourself or got someone else to do it ? What's the diameter / measurements so I can get a set for myself. I want to change my tags to Vitz as well . Haha

[lunjiaow]

Wow $650 is heaps to just change springs =S
But that should be with wheel alignment right?

I wouldnt mind the scion rear badge but i might get a netz one instead.
check out http://www.microimageonline.com if you want some accessories.

[Thalmes]

I found a place to buy it actually . I just need the measurements though .



Anyway guys !

For the springs ... I've got Pedders Spring
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Front Spring Low
2942 2942 Sports Ryder Coil Spring
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Rear Spring Low
2943 2943 Sports Ryder Coil Spring

My car is NCP90 / 2009/10 model .

The catalogue said 2005ON(onwards I think) / NCP90 ... So I take that it should fit right ? I saw the shape , It's identical to my stock spring . Fat and short .

The picture : http://www.pedders.com.au/photoGallery/32/1/photo184
I'm just double checking as people keep saying that my car is too new and there's no springs for it yet (Kings Spring ) ...

[lunjiaow]

our generation is getting quite old now. just your one is series two, which is the update model. just exterior and interior trim are changed only and probably a few more features.

Anyway, suspension are all the same from 05/06 to current.

[Thalmes]

Okay ... That's good to hear !

Looking for springs is the pain in the S !! First kings spring said it's too new and need to custom made , Eibach needs a week and it's 6xx , Lovells needs a week and it's 3xx ... Finally I called Pedders . The dude : I got it now ...

I was like yay !!! So i'm bringing it to install tomorrow ... Wish me luck in getting my desired height =P

[hazzy]

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I purchased Rota Torques 16x7 with 40ET and was looking forward to get it installed with 205/50/16. I went to a couple of tyre places and most of them agree that the speedometer accuracy will be way off and thus was recommended to install 195/45/16 or 205/45(40)/16. What gives?