There're many who complain about the Yaris cup-holders, and yet...

[Kal-El]

...here are the cup-holders in the 1st generation Mercedes M-Class. I guess they were OK when they were in a Mercedes Benz. I never read any complaints by critics in regards to these. And these are actually much less usable than the Yaris's. They are smaller, shallower, and only hold one shape. Oh, and they're the only cup-holders in the front of the car.

[Nexus1155]

I got 3 in my car, including this one stupid one that essentially spills crap all over your electronics in your center console. I acutally think the Merc one looks pretty neat. I've seen people use the side dash pocket in the yaris as a cupholder? is that suppose to be one? i just put cards in there and whatnot

http://zener.com/audi/HVAC_cleaning/drink%20in%20holder.jpg

[Kal-El]

^^ Yup, classic Audi cup-holders. What a sad design. Must be great on the Autobahn.

Until only very recently, most German cars have had the crappiest cup-holders or none at all. BMW had flimsy ones that swung from the passenger dash to service the driver. :iono:

Their argument is that while driving, why would you have a drink? :thumbdown:

[FSANE]

my complain is the AUX jack. seriously?

[SilverBack]

^Never mind that. I'll never get used to the door lock in that same area. I know why it's there, but it's still a bit of a PITA reaching for it when there are nutjobs near your car.

And yeah, the current hide-away cupholders block the air vents. Could've been placed lower

[Kal-El]

Personally, the cup-holders don't bother me but naturally I wish they were in-between the seats which is the ideal spot. Problem is that most sub-compacts aren't wide enough to fit both the e-brake and cup-holders side by side. It's one of the reasons I'd like to see the next Yaris be about 2" wider (but no longer or taller).

[chrisj]

I like the placement and design of the cup holders. They adjust to different size cups (our Avalon's cup holder did not...always had to hold smaller drinks in curves, which sucked), and I actually like the vent blowing on the thing. It keeps my cold drinks cold and cools off my coffee!

Wonderful.

[tomato]

I don't have a problem with the cup holders :iono:

at first I thought it odd that my coffee would sit so high but the cups never spill and are out of the way so it works out.

Now I almost bought a subaru and that thing had a really silly cup holder, real fragile

[Revsson]

My buddy has a Subaru. If I remember right, he has to remove the travel mug to play
with the radio controls....or maybe the heating controls. Anyway, I agree...not in a
good spot, and he uses it all the time.

[MadMax]

^^ Yup, classic Audi cup-holders. What a sad design. Must be great on the Autobahn.

Until only very recently, most German cars have had the crappiest cup-holders or none at all. BMW had flimsy ones that swung from the passenger dash to service the driver. :iono:

Their argument is that while driving, why would you have a drink? :thumbdown:

Yep, when we moved to Germany in 1995 we had a brand new US-specs VW Passat sedan. The Germans were in amazement over the cupholder, a two-cup contraption that was bolted to the transmission hump on the passenger side of the car...

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7808/cup383fgk9.jpg

The way they reacted, you'd think it was the most high-tech piece of equipment on the car!

Also, the third-eye brake light was new to the Germans back then, so it wasn't uncommon to see them jump in surprise when it lit up!

Cheers! M2

[marcus]

besides the holder keeping my coffee warm on winter and keeping my cold drinks on summer..?

[severous01]

mercedes and bmw are engineered in germany...they dont have cupholders in germany...so when they export to the states they have to come up with a place for them. sometimes it's a really crappy place because there's a module or wire harness where the cupholder should be.

oh, and they're not cupholders, they're can-holders. so, that may be the reasoning behind them being so small as well. not being snotty or snoody, just sayin so you understand why bmw/merc is so small when it comes to cupholders.


i'm like them...i'd rather not have them. i dont eat or drink in my car unless i'm on long...really long road trips. and then at most i'll get a drink when i'm fillin up. if you drink too much you gotta pee, and that means another stop. same with food but you gotta poo instead, so i fast the day before and do like a liquid diet when i'm on serious road trips

[JumpmanYaris]

Yep, when we moved to Germany in 1995 we had a brand new US-specs VW Passat sedan. The Germans were in amazement over the cupholder, a two-cup contraption that was bolted to the transmission hump on the passenger side of the car...

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7808/cup383fgk9.jpg

The way they reacted, you'd think it was the most high-tech piece of equipment on the car!

Also, the third-eye brake light was new to the Germans back then, so it wasn't uncommon to see them jump in surprise when it lit up!

Cheers! M2

So they was like; "Ohhhh Look a cup holder wow , How much was one of them
Thats some serious modding"

[silver_echo]

My buddy has a Subaru. If I remember right, he has to remove the travel mug to play
with the radio controls....or maybe the heating controls. Anyway, I agree...not in a
good spot, and he uses it all the time.

the stereo... and if you wanna change the cd, or a few other things... and spillage is a big risk

[chrisj]

I got 3 in my car, including this one stupid one that essentially spills crap all over your electronics in your center console. I acutally think the Merc one looks pretty neat. I've seen people use the side dash pocket in the yaris as a cupholder? is that suppose to be one? i just put cards in there and whatnot

http://zener.com/audi/HVAC_cleaning/drink%20in%20holder.jpg

There is a similar design to this in my old 1996 Tacoma pickup. I hated them because Cokes always sweated and dripped all over everything below the cups. God what a stupid design.

[jpmck03]

Behold, YW members, the worst cup-holders in the world.

Look in awe upon the cup-holders that make Nexus1155's cup-holder look well designed.

I present to you, the 2002 VW Jetta cup-holder. Quite possibly the worst design ever. How they thought that a cup-holder that covers half of the stock stereo was a good idea is a mystery.

Want to change the volume?
Well you can wiggle the left side of the volume knob.
:redface:

Want to tune in a different station?
Hope you have a passenger to wiggle that other knob.
:thumbdown:

Want to go to a different radio preset?
Slide your finger along the bottom of the cup-holder pressing buttons, which you can't see, because the cup-holder blocks your line of sight.
:frown:

Want to see what station or CD track you are on?
Tough shit, you can't.
:mad:

Want to change out to a different CD?
1.) Take drink from cup-holder, 2.) wedge drink between legs, 3.) close cup-holder, usually fiddling with it to actually get it to close, 4.) eject CD, 5.) put in new CD, 6.) open cup-holder, again fiddling with it because the damn arms never extend all the way, 7.) put your drink back!
:evil:

[chrisj]

All afterthoughts, unfortunately. Don't understand why designers wouldn't think of those right off. A cup holder is a major convenience feature to me.

[FSANE]

cupholder problem solved.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/FSANE/IMG_0092.jpg

[chrisj]

^ LOL!

[Kal-El]

And here are the ridiculous cup-holders in the over-rated BMW 3-series (current generation). I drive these at my job and wonder how they can be considered THE standard. I'd much rather have my Yaris than the BMW 3.

Snapped this pic at work yesterday. Yup, these are ALL the cup holders. The driver has to reach 3 feet and over the passenger just to grab their drink. Plus, the design limits many types of drink containers.

:thumbdown:

[PhillyG]

wow... i didnt know anyone complained about the yaris cupholders... i rather like mine.. keeps the hot drink warm in the winter and the cold drink cool in the summer. aside from easy reach.

[severous01]

i told you....german cars dont have cupholders in germany. they just find a spot and put them there in american models.

germans think that cars are for driving, not for eating and drinking in.

[Kal-El]

i told you....german cars dont have cupholders in germany. they just find a spot and put them there in american models.

germans think that cars are for driving, not for eating and drinking in.

It doesn't take an enormous amount of skill to suck liquid through a straw while driving.
I know they take driving seriously but it doesn't mean they have to be thirsty.

[SailDesign]

i told you....german cars dont have cupholders in germany. they just find a spot and put them there in american models.

germans think that cars are for driving, not for eating and drinking in.

I knew there was something I liked about the Germans. :smile:
Usually, if I'm on a long-enough trip that I NEED a drink, I'll stop, drink, and then get back in the car and keep moving. I am NOT one of these "sip-every-5-minutes" people....

[SailDesign]

It doesn't take an enormous amount of skill to suck liquid through a straw while driving.
I know they take driving seriously but it doesn't mean they have to be thirsty.

No, but in England at least, if you take one hand off the wheel to do that, or to bite an apple or something, you'll be cited for dangerous driving.
I don't agree with it, just saying....

[Kal-El]

No, but in England at least, if you take one hand off the wheel to do that, or to bite an apple or something, you'll be cited for dangerous driving.
I don't agree with it, just saying....

That's crazy. I don't know anyone who drives with 2 hands. I argue that one hand between the spokes makes reaction time quicker. With two hands, it limits your range of motion and slows the rotation time down since you have to synchronize both hands and juggle two points of contact.

[why?]

It doesn't take an enormous amount of skill to suck liquid through a straw while driving.
I know they take driving seriously but it doesn't mean they have to be thirsty.

Um yea, there is a huge difference between drinking a soda at 35 mph while picking up the kids then at 200 mph on the autobahn.

The Yaris cup holders are great, on the sides, away from everything.

[Kal-El]

Um yea, there is a huge difference between drinking a soda at 35 mph while picking up the kids then at 200 mph on the autobahn.

The Yaris cup holders are great, on the sides, away from everything.

Yes, the Autobahn is the exception but Germany isn't all Autobahn. It's just a small part of it. Most of the country is driven normally. Why not be able to hold a drink? Plus, 200 MPH isn't the norm. Even the drivers with Lamborghini's, Ferrari's, ect. would have to be a bit nutty to go 200. 150 is more typical in the passing lane. In fact, most cars are governed at 155.

[RedRide]

I wonder it is manditory that new drivers are forced to watch what happens to a production car (and its occupants) when it crashes at 150 MPH.

It's certainly not pretty and would cause many to think twice about going that fast.

[SailDesign]

That's crazy. I don't know anyone who drives with 2 hands. I argue that one hand between the spokes makes reaction time quicker. With two hands, it limits your range of motion and slows the rotation time down since you have to synchronize both hands and juggle two points of contact.

You'll find most racing drivers disagree with you on reaction and range of motion/rotation time issues. First rule -two hands on the wheel unless shifting, which is why the paddle-shifter was invented (hands NEVER leave the wheel)
If it's better for racing, you KNOW it has to be better on the road - but I agree the fact that you can be fined for it is stupid.

[why?]

Yes, the Autobahn is the exception but Germany isn't all Autobahn. It's just a small part of it. Most of the country is driven normally. Why not be able to hold a drink? Plus, 200 MPH isn't the norm. Even the drivers with Lamborghini's, Ferrari's, ect. would have to be a bit nutty to go 200. 150 is more typical in the passing lane. In fact, most cars are governed at 155.

While it might be a small part of Germany, I'd be shocked there is anyone that doesn't go on the autobahn at least once in their car, and it only takes a couple seconds of distraction at that speed to be dead.

And drivers are also trained better in europe, they actually know that distracted driving is bad, and even a second or two with your eyes off the road could be deadly.

[MadMax]

I believe I read once that the average speed on the autobahn is only 140 km/h (about 85 mph), and that on the unrestricted speed sections.

The advisory speed limit (Richtgeschwindigkeit) is 130 km/h (80 mph).

A 2005 study by the German Federal Interior Ministry (Bundesministerium des Innern) indicated that autobahn sections with unrestricted speed have the same crash record as sections with speed limits.

[Kal-El]

The same arguments against beverages while driving could be applied to radios and navigation systems. In fact, those things require much more attention than grabbing a drink which doesn't require taking your eyes off the road. So why do German cars have radios and navi's?


:confused: :wink:

[silver_echo]

The same arguments against beverages while driving could be applied to radios and navigation systems. In fact, those things require much more attention than grabbing a drink which doesn't require taking your eyes off the road. So why do German cars have radios and navi's?


:confused: :wink:

if we are gonna go there, why not include air conditioners on that list... those take some attention...

and i notice that smoking is off the list too... so remove the ash trays, and the A/C, and the radio, and the navi... oop, and remove the ability to adjust the window while driving...

:tongue:

just showing how fast everything(well, almost) can be removed by this thinking...

how about we just train drivers properly... make the driver's test a pain in the ass, difficult to pass, and then require a valid driver's license on every vehicle registration... with extra paperwork showing when you own more than one vehicle...

[JBougie]

wow... i didnt know anyone complained about the yaris cupholders... i rather like mine.. keeps the hot drink warm in the winter and the cold drink cool in the summer. aside from easy reach.

Same here. I love the cup holders in the Yaris. I like the LB cup holders even more than the sedan ones, just because there are more of them lol :)

[chrisj]

I used to be very adept at driving with my knees while eating a burger, fries, and a shake. It was almost like someone else was driving me down the road. But.... I was driving about 35mph while doing this... :)

[firemachine69]

Same here. I love the cup holders in the Yaris. I like the LB cup holders even more than the sedan ones, just because there are more of them lol :)



Nice thread revival! :thumbup:


I actually got the stick-on center console cup holder piece of plastic. It holds the short stacks of gum tubes, or a medium coffee from Timmies (small-size for you US brethens :wink:). That Timmies is also going nowhere in a hurry!

[toyo]

dont really use mine for drinks lol

use them for all kinds of stuff, but not drinks.

usually have bottled water, so...

btw those MB cupeholders are just dumb.

[chrisj]

Hey. I never looked, but do the Yaris cupholders have any sort of drain hole in them at all? I mean do they puddle up with drink condensation? If there are no holes, then I must drill one in each! Project for tomorrow, along with MI armrest installation.

[SailDesign]

Hey. I never looked, but do the Yaris cupholders have any sort of drain hole in them at all? I mean do they puddle up with drink condensation? If there are no holes, then I must drill one in each! Project for tomorrow, along with MI armrest installation.

You REALLY want to have all that dribbling on your pants and carpet? Much easier to clean out of the cup-holder - esp if you remove and wash it.

[chrisj]

Oh yeah! You can remove it! Okay, no drilling. lol.

[severous01]

ok, for all who are really in a caring mood. just so you know, i replaced a set of cupholders in a 3, e90, today. for the seventh time since 07. for sticking/jammed. of course guess what it's jammed with.....sticky coke residue that dries out and turns into super glue. hmm...when will you people learn, wipe the cup with the napkin they give you with the cup...and then put it in the cupholder.

also, dont drive aggressively with a can or plastic cup in the holder...it just goes everywhere.

[shinlee]

cupholder problem solved.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/FSANE/IMG_0092.jpg

HELL YEAH!!!! that was my cupholder in my 92 mustang the ENTIRE time I owned it!!!! LOVING IT~!