Toyota should wise up re: MPG figures

[Sandwash]

With all the data on this website available regarding Yaris' 40++ miles per gallon, you would think Toyota would petition EPA in recalc./correction of a mere 36 mpg...go figure.

[Yaris Hilton]

Why? How would that profit them?

[BailOut]

Why? How would that profit them?
It would be a great selling point over other vehicles in this segment.

[Yarisduder]

But for most people driving the car it would be a lie. Just like the old estimates that tended to be 10mpg better than what you got in the real world.

[jcemitte]

it would hurt them, because if you behave and drive your car like a civilized person the numbers get to close to the prius. i think many ppl would be like "well f*ck that" to the hybrid. the prius costs a lot money and would effectively hurt toyotas profits.


personally i think the prius is the most backward P.O.S. ever (not that build quality is bad after all it is a toyota) but they mine the nickle for the batteries in canada then ship it the the UK where they treat it and make it into a foamy type of consistancy and then ship it again to toyota city, japan and then import them all over creation. hows that for a carbon foot print.

[Stove]

... hows that for a carbon foot print.

You are correct. However, if nobody purchased those vehicles now, there will be no money to invest in the R&D required to develop new battery technology that will have a smaller environmental impact and a smaller carbon foot print.

Current battery manufacturing techniques are very hard on the environment but like everything else, it has to start somewhere. Nickel metal hydride batteries are what they use today, although it has a measurable environmental impact, it's much less than if they used Lead Acid batteries. Tomorrows batteries should be cleaner. Battery powered/assisted vehicles are essentially in their infancy, as more money gets invested into the technology the methods and materials used should become more environmentally friendly.

IMO, a completely Green battery will ever be developed but cleaner methods will come and it will still reduce our dependence on oil. What is the environmental impact of the BP spill, and the carbon footprint from all the continued clean up?

[Sandwash]

Why? How would that profit them?

Actually mine was a facetious comment; more a comment on some of the astounding mileage figures coming forward.

[yarrr]

it would hurt them, because if you behave and drive your car like a civilized person the numbers get to close to the prius. i think many ppl would be like "well f*ck that" to the hybrid. the prius costs a lot money and would effectively hurt toyotas profits.

My dad drives like a psycho and regularly gets 45 mpg in the prius. I've never even gotten close to 40 in the yaris even on hypermiling tanks.


personally i think the prius is the most backward P.O.S. ever (not that build quality is bad after all it is a toyota) but they mine the nickle for the batteries in canada then ship it the the UK where they treat it and make it into a foamy type of consistancy and then ship it again to toyota city, japan and then import them all over creation. hows that for a carbon foot print.

Go buy a hummer, I heard they extract all materials and build them from one country. Oh and you forgot the step in china.


And to everyone who STILL doesn't get it

http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/newb-better-mpgs-out-dodge-neon-740.html

OMG A dodge neon gets over 40 mpg, someone call the EPA!!!!111eleventy!!1

[jcemitte]

Perhaps I should have clarified; I am not anti-Prius. At least Toyota is making an effort to help the environment, and backward piece of shit maybe an inappropriate exaggeration but, it’s just like what I stated. Although the benefits of the end user driving the car are good, the battery production is bad. There is a darker side to the Prius that most people don’t know about, not that it’s the end of the world. Stove makes a good point about it being a young technology and all but why doesn't Toyota focus all that energy into hydrogen cars. As for as I know there isn’t any harsher effects to harvesting hydrogen and the only by product the car produces is water, a.k.a. zero emissions