Short throw shifters?

[Spades]

well, so far i love my yaris, but i HATE the truck shifter. for most people i am sure a truck shifter is fine for regular driving, but I cant stand it. so, any companies making a short throw shifter yet? i have seen TWM is making one...anyone have any experience with it? hard to install? is it a good fit?

any info would be wonderfull :)

[Nutzoids]

I installed my TWM Short throw shifter last weekend... I love it, Installation was a pain in the ass because of one Bolt... make sure your car is warm when you do it... The cold plastic made it tough... But my God does it fucking rock! It was worth every penny! But keep in mind you will need a new Boot!

:evil:

[eTiMaGo]

AFAIK only TWM has one, but the member ChinoCharles here also made his own by butchering the original gear stick... not for the faint-hearted.

BTW I ordered a TWM one a couple fo days ago and it should be delivered today :biggrin: Too bad it's gonna be a busy busy day, gonna have to wait a bit to put it in :frown:

[johnnyfive]

iirc. there is a TRD sports shifter, that is a more compleate short shifter than the TWM one...came with bushings, and the entire mount...was some infoon it in the same thread refered to above(with the hacked up stock shifter)

i didnt look into it more because i drive a manual but if was was in the market, that would have been the kit i would have looked into getting...might have just been a trd japan part, or may have not even been trd atall..but it is out there :)

[ChinoCharles]

... And by the way... 10,000 miles and it still hasn't snapped in two! Haha!

[tekmoe]

i installed the TRD short shifter in my 02 corolla...

i wonder if it would fit my yaris....

hmmmmmmm

[KSIbucky]

i've seen some but i would really be affraid about the fit

[eTiMaGo]

iirc. there is a TRD sports shifter, that is a more compleate short shifter than the TWM one...came with bushings, and the entire mount...was some infoon it in the same thread refered to above(with the hacked up stock shifter)

i didnt look into it more because i drive a manual but if was was in the market, that would have been the kit i would have looked into getting...might have just been a trd japan part, or may have not even been trd atall..but it is out there :)

hmmm wasn't that TRD part for the first generation echo/vitz/yaris? I'm not sure if anyone confirmed it would work with the NCP91's?

[ChinoCharles]

We confirmed it wouldn't. That is the one that includes the cage, right?

[eTiMaGo]

whee hee just received mine today... Instructions look a bit daunting though, gonna have to raid my friend's tool shelf, I doubt my trusty swiss army knife will handle the job...

as for the stick itself, it looks more like a knobbly mini nightstick for a midget cop :biggrin:

[Katana]

I wish you good luck.Tell me if your 0-60 is faster now!

[SmellyTofu]

Don't know about you guys, I've got the TRD short shift. I compared the height of them both and they were spot on the same height plus it was easy to fit when I did it.

[ChinoCharles]

Pictures please.

[Katana]

+1!

[SmellyTofu]

No pics... don't plan to take my SS out anytime soon but I have posted a pic of the SS itself in the car (search).

If I was buying a SS, I really wouldn't muck about taking standard parts apart with knives etc. It just looks so unprofessional to make a product for customers to do a dodgy job to "install". Anyway, the TRD ones aren't that expensive.

[graywolf_14]

Yeah but if the trd is the same height that would be as cool. I honestly love the stock shifter in my dsm it is so low My hand will hit the consol when shifting into lower gears.

[graywolf_14]

I mean it wouldnt because I think it just looks to high.

[Spades]

well, i decided to just make my own
much better, just by taking off about 2.5" from the top the throw is shorter and feels much better.
http://home.comcast.net/~fitzworld/shifter.JPG

[Black Yaris]

Don't know about you guys, I've got the TRD short shift. I compared the height of them both and they were spot on the same height plus it was easy to fit when I did it.

Where would one purchase one of these TRD Short Shifters?

[SmellyTofu]

Tried TRD USA?

[ChinoCharles]

There is no TRD short shifter for the USDM Yaris. There is a JDM short shifter that doesn't fit, though.

[eco]

I say why buy a new shifter,just chop off what ever you dont want,just like me,Charles and Spades did,even though I have an auto,it still feels/looks much better.And when I would lay down in my car my knee would always hit the knob,no problem now.

[SmellyTofu]

I say why buy a new shifter,just chop off what ever you dont want,just like me,Charles and Spades did,even though I have an auto,it still feels/looks much better.And when I would lay down in my car my knee would always hit the knob,no problem now.

Few things. Shift effort, lack of preciseness between shifts and the need to lean further to grab a gear. As for "cutting" an automatic lever.. well, whatever floats your boat. More power to you man! Woo! :thumbup:

Why buy new springs when you can just chop them? Why buy cheap brand tyres? Why not drill holes in the exhaust for a better exhaust note? Why dim your headlights with tinted globes?*

Chino, sorry can't help you then. I drive a RHD Yaris.

* Please don't do this

[Spades]

why did i chop it? for a few reasons...first, i didnt want to take the shifter assembly apart. two, i dont have the money, i need to spend that money on new tires(the ones i have right now are oversized,long story). and three, it does actually work.

I dont have to lean any further forward to shift and its just as precise as the factory shifter. keep in mind ANY short throw shifter on the market will normally have a shorter height shifter than the stock unit. the only differance is that the space from side to side on short throw shifters is less...so you will find untill you learn to control that short throw shifter you will often be popping what you thought was 3rd and was actually 5th.the do have a little less of a throw forward to back than a chopped shifter, so the leverage is better, but otherwise, thats about it. I know, my last car had a B&M short throw shifter.

so, maybe its not as good as a true short throw shifter, but its not the same as cutting your springs so please dont put me in that catagory. thanks.

[bladesmith6]

Has anyone tried the xa short shifters you can find on ebay? The mounting points look the same and it looks very very close to the JDM vitz quickshifter, I might give it a try for $50 unless someone knows that it definitely won't fit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-06-SCION-XB-XA-JDM-RACING-SHORT-SHIFTER-04-05_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33736QQihZ005QQitemZ 150076303298QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

[eco]

Well Ibeleive a chopped auto shifter looks alot better,and like I said it would hit my knee,but I do find it easierr to shift,I know I shoul have less leverage,but it is easier now.And just staight chopping springs dosnt give you a certain spring rate,but I see where your going.

[spkrman]

after cutting the shifter down, how do you rescrew on the knob?

My knee hits it, and sometimes passengers knees can hit it... and rarely if they are movin around too much they can knock it from D to 3... I'd like to make it a liiiiiiitle lower if possible.

[johnnyfive]

after cutting the shifter down, how do you rescrew on the knob?

My knee hits it, and sometimes passengers knees can hit it... and rarely if they are movin around too much they can knock it from D to 3... I'd like to make it a liiiiiiitle lower if possible.


could replace the knob with one of the set screw type knobs, or you could just re-cut the threads.

[d2dailly]

what they did was take the shifter out and cut a peice out and reweld the threaded part back on as far as i know

[ChinoCharles]

Before and after...

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In the first picture you can see the sharpie mark where the first cut was made. The second was made at that little beveled spot that held the ring before. We then took the two pieces left over and i sat in the car and decided where I wanted to pitch it. Then it was just a matter of welding it together. Everything came out nice and straight.

Tell me, what is the difference between what I did and the TWM "short shifter" other than $90?

EDIT: Thats $125. Jesus... I mean, sure, its a lot stockier and probably feels more precise, but I'm sorry... can't justify spending that on a metal rod.

[eTiMaGo]

it's made in canada, man! fortified with maple syrup! :biggrin:

AFAIK the bottom part of the rod is also different, a bit longer, I think, so that the throw can be even shorter without reducing the height of the top part so much.

[Spades]

yeah, true short shifters reduce the travel needed to put the gear from 1 to 2 shifts, but they also reduce the throw from side to side, such as the space from 2nd to 3rd shifts.

so, technically there is a differance between our "custom" short throws and ones purchased...however...cutting your shifter is NOTHING like chopping the springs on your car, cause shortening your shifter has no negative affects on the cars relability or performance, like oh, say, like cutting your cars springs. i think that guy just forgot to take his morning midol.

[forpinks]

whee hee just received mine today... Instructions look a bit daunting though, gonna have to raid my friend's tool shelf, I doubt my trusty swiss army knife will handle the job...

as for the stick itself, it looks more like a knobbly mini nightstick for a midget cop :biggrin:

NICE RIMS MAN!:thumbup: