Scion XB 1NZ-FE Turbo build

[xbgod]

I was asked to start a thread about my build. I was orginaly posting here because of the Gude head package, but I think we can all learn something new from each other since we carry the same motor.

My car which is just a toy and not a daily driver consumed me when I picked it up in 2005; brand new with 5 miles on it. At the time I had been working at Aerospace Components for 10 years doing nothing but manufacturing race car parts for drag racing. It became a running joke that I couldn't get this motor to make over 250hp.Keep in mind all the guys that work there are BBC guys running door cars. so like all males I set out to prove them wrong.

Here is a quick overview of my mods. I will post pics and continue with explaining my mods as questions arrise.

Fully Built Race motor:

1NZ-FE
9:1 Compression
Golden Eagle Sleved block
Crower rods
Arias Pistons
Ferara Valves + 1 mm oversized
Ferara retainers, Lockers, springs
3 way valve job
Ported and polished head
Gude cams
Weapon-R sheet metal intake
Edlebrock Victor-X 70mm TB
Tial / Garrett GTX-2860 RS Turbo w/ SS Housing and Billet Wheel
Greddy Intercooler
Tial Q BOV
Tial MVS Wate gate
LHT Performance custom Exhaust manifold/ down pipe and all intercooling pipe
Cometic gaskets
HKS air filter
Apexi Super grounding system
Apexi GT Resivor tank


Stand Alone ECU:

Microtech LT10 w/ Microtech Ignition and Bosch coil packs
Electromotive crank trigger

Nology Hot wires / NGK plugs

Greddy Turbo timer
Greddy Boost controller

Fuel System:

Walboro 255l , Aeromotive regulator , Perrin fuel rail ,
Aerospace Components custom fuel block for NX kit
680cc Precision injectors

AEM methanol injection
DEI complete Cryo system

Nitrous Express 100 shot kit tps activated. auto bottle opener
w/ fire and ice cooling system for constant 1000 psi

Tuned By: Rolo at CFT

Aerospace Components 13" full floater disc brake system front
and rear

N.B.S 2.5" custom stainless exhaust w/ Aeroturbine Resonator
and Skunk2 Can

Oil system: Perma cool

Perrin under drive pully

Level 10 5 speed transmission
Ferdenza clutch and fly wheel

Autometer gauges

12 point roll cage

JIC Majic dampner kit

Axels: Drive shaft shop

Sparco seats, pedals and shift knob

TRD short shifter

Samco hoses

5 Zigen 18" Pro Racer

Nitto rubber NT555

Seibon carbon fiber hood and hatch

Greddy boost controller and timmer

[xbgod]

Also some of my parts listed are not in the current motor pic due to me customizing them. Like most racing parts their never how you want them out of the box.

[2manywheels]

Nice! what kind of numbers are you getting out of it??
WOW!!!

How many numbers did you put into it? HAHA $$$$$

[xbgod]

Prior to this build I had a Greddy turbo kit 14G and maxed out at 228hp. What I am showing you now is all new and I have not tuned it yet. I'm waiting on a head from Gude to finalize the motor build. As far as how much coin is in this build, I've lost track but my wife hasn't. I think total which includes the car and everthing I've done inside and out around 65k. Nothing on this car has gone untouched. I think the VIN# is still the same though. Here is a pic of the brake system with my old AXIS wheels on. Front and rear 13" full floater race kits.

[xbgod]

Ok back to the build, Here is my one-off exhaust manifold. what a Pain in the ass to get that turbo to fit.

[Parmas]

Man this is an awesome setup man... I am curious how much is your 1/4mile time!

Is the transmission the stock 5speed?

[sleey0]

Wow!

I guess working where you do you make the kind of money to be able and fortunate to do this to a yaris, or any car for that matter.

Much respect and i wish i could win the lotto someday lol.

[blacksandiegovitz]

WOw wow wow ! Amazing build so-far keep up posted on those numbers with you new set-up

[yarrr]

I think total which includes the car and everthing I've done inside and out around 65k.

speechless

[pimp my yaris]

Thats pulling out all the stops. Sweet ride.

[PETERPOOP]

oh my

[henry33]

:clap: congratulations
nice ride

[xbgod]

Thanks for all the props. just keep my fingers crossed everything goes like it should. Here's some more pics.

[xbgod]

Here is a close up of the 70mm T/B on the Weapon-R intake manifold

[cali yaris]

did Drive Shaft Shop do your axles?

[xbgod]

Yes, DSS did my axels. I've abused my stock axels so much that I went ahead and bit the bullet for a set of those axels. Their 26 spline like on a stock Mustang. So now no more worries.

I've done a ton of suspension work on this new build. Besides the axels I'm using JIC Double adjustable dampners, Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, JIC under body braces and of course that 13" full disc front and rear brake kit.

I'm pulling the plastic tunnel out between the seats and refitting the car with a aluminum tunnel and installing a Hydraulic hand brake from K-Sport. No more stock parking brake. Besides could prove to be a little fun.

XBG

[47_MasoN_47]

O_O

Holy crap...

[cali yaris]

What is the intended purpose of the vehicle?

[sleey0]

Looks like a show car that would decimate all at the track!

He said it isn't his de, but if that was mine It'd drive it everywhere.

[PETERPOOP]

Can't wait to see track times after it's tuned up!

[xbgod]

Orginally was just to make the fastest first gen Xb on a 1.5l motor. Now it's become more of a well built street car that can handle well.

I do alot of corporate shows for Scion so I think the more extreme it is the better response I will get. Plus it's kinda nice knowing you got the best of everything (in my opinion) under the hood and under the body inside and out.

The car is just for fun no real worries about what to do with it.

XBG

[sleey0]

No worries?

For the price of and Audi S4, stacked, or a fully-built EVO, I would think I would "worry" about it quite a bit. l2ms

Sweet ride, bro.

[xbgod]

I cant look at it that way, this has been done over a 4 year time span so the money has been put out in pieces at a time. and besides someone's gotta do it.

This has just been a journey to see how well built and nice it could be done. Anything worth doing is worth doing well.

Yes it's been expensive but I've been fortunate to be able to do this. I've also made alot of head way for others by doing this. So I think it's been well worth it.

XBG

[xbgod]

Heres a pic of my dash....This is what it did look like, the new dash is underway. New tricks up my sleve...

[xbgod]

PETERPOOP.....was meaning to tell you, Your Yaris nicely done. Very clean and it sits well.

[xbgod]

Here are some pics of the full stand-alone unit in my car. This is a Microtech set-up with Nology hot wires and Bosch Coil packs.

[PETERPOOP]

PETERPOOP.....was meaning to tell you, Your Yaris nicely done. Very clean and it sits well.

Oh hey thanks! hehe.

[xbgod]

Remember people, just because you have nice parts and things that shine dosen't make it just a show car. It just means you have the ability to have those expensive parts as well as make it perform.

Here is a pic of a close-up of my motor showing the direct port Nitrous set up that I had welded in on the Weapon-R intake manifold. The blue tape is where the nitous feeds are going. Also all those interested in a clean nitrous set up, I've included a pic of the billet rail I'm using that holds all 3 noids. Makes for a clean install.

[rob323]

Here are some pics of the full stand-alone unit in my car. This is a Microtech set-up with Nology hot wires and Bosch Coil packs.
What made you go with Microtech? There are certainly better aftermarket management systems produced in Australia.

[xbgod]

Been using microtech for years. Orginally because it was my only real option 4 years ago. I tried the Greddy stuff back then and it sucked so bad I threw it in the garbage. Microtech is simple, it's in your face raw racing power, it's like MSD on steroids. no MAF sensor to worry about or other sensors to worry about. Microtech sees all my other sensors without issues and tunning is breeze. Also when seeking a tunner you need to also see what they tune with the best and that their not just guessing with your shit. I chose this system based on having a tunner that is certified in this system and a system that was reliable.

Yes there are newer and better systems out now and once I'm done if I'm not totally happy I will be going to Motec. This sysem will run me about 9,000.00 installed and tunned with all the features I would need. Motec is alacarte so every option cost you. I have the money to do this change but I want to see how things go this way first, before I spend another 9G.

XBG

[rob323]

Will Microtech interface with a knock sensor yet?

[xbgod]

Good question and I'll be honest I don't even know if I have mine hooked up that way or not. I've gotten so good at listening for detonation that I back off when tunning. Not to mention I use Racing fuel when I'm tunning. Thats the other beauty of not having this as my daily driver is I can run race fuel and not worry about the expense.

I know some things have changed for the Microtech set-up so I'll find out for you about the knock sensor.

Also keep in mind I may not be running the VVTI like most do. I'm going to use such a wild cam that I will more than likely not run VVTI.

I've been running my set-up like VVT instead of a VVTI application as it stands right now. Remember I'm not using a MAF sensor. My set-up is race oriented. I don't care about fuel economy and I make up for the torque with my cams. These are two things that are usually related towards the VVTI which is responsable for both.

XBG

[Tamago]

interesting points of view in this thread, and lots of stock-photos of parts........

[Parmas]

Been using microtech for years. Orginally because it was my only real option 4 years ago. I tried the Greddy stuff back then and it sucked so bad I threw it in the garbage. Microtech is simple, it's in your face raw racing power, it's like MSD on steroids. no MAF sensor to worry about or other sensors to worry about. Microtech sees all my other sensors without issues and tunning is breeze. Also when seeking a tunner you need to also see what they tune with the best and that their not just guessing with your shit. I chose this system based on having a tunner that is certified in this system and a system that was reliable.

Yes there are newer and better systems out now and once I'm done if I'm not totally happy I will be going to Motec. This sysem will run me about 9,000.00 installed and tunned with all the features I would need. Motec is alacarte so every option cost you. I have the money to do this change but I want to see how things go this way first, before I spend another 9G.

XBG


I don't know Microtech but I am sure Haltech is better. It has about the same capabilities of a Motec engine managment. Currently Installed on my yaris although still needs tuning. Will post a dyno sheet next week probably.

[xbgod]

Haltech is for sure better than Microtech. My issue is I've been using Microtech for 4 years and have built more of a race motor and only using VVT. If at some point I need to change it will be for Motec.

There seems to be a certain ass-clown who has a car with 2 dicks hanging out the ass-end for tale pipes. Who seems to think because orginal photos of parts were published that I must not have them. Little hard to take pics of parts when your in Iraq. Any question about how much money I have to spend on parts call Paul at Dezod, whom I'm real good friends with...He'll tell you my pockets have almost no bottom when it comes to parts. Like the pic of the axels that I bought from him.

You my friend have a big mouth and most people here can't stand you, which reflects all the private PM's I get from guys telling me so. do your self a favor go join the MR2 convention.

I'm more than likely going to take a heat round from a MOD for this but I have too many people telling me that this shit has to end.

XBG

[Parmas]

I agree with you on the parts. Quality cannot be an option on cars and behind that is your insurance for your motors life and yours included.

Keep up the good work and don't forget to leave some cash for the kids.

[xbgod]

Well said bro.

And I sure am grateful that my kids love the track and car shows; mainly for all the carnival food but hey, they enjoy looking at the rides and picking out cars they'd love to have. Their next on my to spoil list along with the wife that puts up with this.

XBG

[PETERPOOP]

Any videos of the car?

[xbgod]

Not on me right now and the one I do have at home is like 2 years old and thats if I can find it. Going to be doing a new video of the car at the shop as well as when it's getting tuned on the Dyno. Just finished talking to my tunner Rolo to set up the time in Nov to do this. Should be good and I'll also be able to let you all know how the gude head package holds up.

XBG

[The Spectacle]

Lot of money in this car. Looking forward to the end result

[xbgod]

Me too. I think it'll do just fine. Then I can move on to all my body work and update my interrior.

XBG

[rob323]

Haltech is for sure better than Microtech. My issue is I've been using Microtech for 4 years and have built more of a race motor and only using VVT. If at some point I need to change it will be for Motec.

Agreed, better to use something you are familiar with than to use something you are not.
I have had bad experiences with Microtech on other cars due to inaudible detonation and blown head gaskets and any future systems I use will have to be able to do automatic knock retard (eg, Adaptronic, Vipec, Autronic etc, there are plenty of other options other than Motec).

There can be good gains had by utilising the continuously variable valve timing if you ever change to a system that can control it, but you will have to manually check you clearances to know just how far you can advance and retard the cam before the valves smash the pistons.

[xbgod]

I've done well with Microtech but the best thing I can say is to definatley have a tuner experienced in what ever ECU you decide to buy and that he's not winging it. My tuner Rolo who owns CFT went to Australia to be qualified on this system at Microtech.

Can't wait to get home and get underway. I've got work inside and out to do. Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you at some of the shows this up coming year. Also I'll be at PRI in Orlando to attend the trade show; so if anyone is going let me know.

XBG

[Yoda]

just realized you are in Florida. Might be taking a trip down to Orlando soon. You think your bud Rolo could tune my Yaris :)

[xbgod]

Depending on Engine management we can use him or go 5 miles down the road to King performance.

Either way we would be back to Rolo's shop to use the MD500 Dyno. "The King of Dyno's"

Rolo is qualified in these management systems: Microtech,AEM, Greddy,Chrom,HKS, Hondata, Haltech

Let me know

XBG

[sleey0]

xb

I hope none of these tools that were ripping you at MI post in here.

I get the feeling that they were pretty jealous of your build so they shot there e-peens over there lol

http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/showthread.php/930-1nzfe-an-endless-budget-one-wicked-build/page2

[xbgod]

Wes,

I never worry about jack-asses like that. Those that chime-in like that after they see my stuff are usually just pissed because I beat them to it. And I must say I love the the whole why don't you run a block guard?
.....Hmmmmm....mabey because I have a sleeved block and don't need one. Those guys are straight fucktards. I think I've made it pretty clear what I'm capable of doing. Which is to say there is nothing I can't do. And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats.

I've taken my fair-share of bullshit from people but hey I've been on Speed-vision 11 times, have had my XB in the booths at 3 years of PRI in orlando,Fl. Have been featured in Modz365 magazine have been recognized by TRD, have been the main feature at all the Scion events in Fl. And have yet to loose to any Toyota / Lexus at a car show to-date.

Now thats me talking smak but I've paid my dues and have helped pave the way for parts that were unheard of untill people like my self, Brian Crower and Paul Dezod started testing and producing parts before this ever got popular. The crower rods everyone loves...yeah...Brian and I had them tested in my car and ready for production since 2005.

I've made my goals and have set the standard. It's now time for me to help others achive there dreams and get them in winning seat.

I do this now because I enjoy watching others make their rides bad-ass. I have nothing to prove. I've already been where most are trying to go and I will help others get there.

It's not about me anymore, it's about our whole club and getting everyone their.

XBG

[sleey0]

And that goes for any of you, never get put down from someone who gets jealous of you; build it and prove them wrong. There will always be haters and naysayers but those are also the ones who's cars are worth less than my seats.

Quote of the Century right there!!! HAHAHAHA LOL!!

And it is now added to my signature to be a timeless classis!!

[sleey0]

It's all good, Aras.

I just don't know why they were calling you a douchbag. You didn't say anything stupid or be a troll in that forum so the only thing I could think of was they were hating.

You have been very, VERY helpful to me and my annoying questions! lol

So you are allright in my book, bro:D

[xbgod]

I didn't even know that forum existed. They were talking trash on that forum before they even knew who I was. It wasn't till someone from Scikotics told me about it before I took a look at that site and posted like 3 times and not once did I bash anyone.

I think Garm was the only one who had anything real positive to say on that site if memory serves me correct.

But hey their loss, there all so smart over there than can figure it out for them selves.

You guys on the other hand...great crowd, good humor. Anyone can be keyboard tough. I tell'em drag your shit to one of the shows;I get paid more to just let it sit in a booth than to take it down the track.

I'm a huge people person at any track or trade show. I'm willing to give more stuff away than I am concerned about selling you a line of shit. It's all about taking care of each other bro.

XBG

[cali yaris]

I think Garm was the only one who had anything real positive to say on that site if memory serves me correct.

Not true. And the thread was cleaned up.

I took a look at that site and posted like 3 times and not once did I bash anyone.

You posted one introduction thread, to which you received 100% respectful replies.

Let's keep it real, ok?

xbg has some good knowledge and has been appropriately complimented on his unfinished but sick build. Can we just move on instead of dragging up crap?

[xbgod]

And your right bro. no reason to drag crap around. And now that I went back and looked again it was one of the same shit-heads that started crap here too.

Gotta love those guys...Anyways I see it's your site so understandable for the chime-in. You can't police the world, there will always be those that try to make things difficult.

Well guys almost ready to get back to business with this build. Getting stateside very soon.

Lets keep it positive no more negative Nancy's

XBG

[xbgod]

I retract my last,

That shit is still on your site...cleaned up my ass. Unless I'm Hellen Keller the link Wes provided it's still active.

XBG

[xbgod]

Should any of you guys need parts of any kind for your 1NZ-FE motors. Let me know. I don't have to keep any overhead or buy-in's for good prices.

XBG

[sleey0]

Grrrr.

Get back home, xbg!!!

[xbgod]

going as fast as I can. Belive me I got lots to do. I gotta get you squared away.

I got the PRI trade show in Orlando, so I gotta have my car ready for the Precision Performance booth for display. Got a couple of Corporate Scion events to do by the holidays.

My calander is getting full and I'm not even home yet.

XBG

[sleey0]

Hey, don't be complaining. To me, sounds like fun (shows and whatnot).

When is the PRI in O-town? Might try and catch it if I can.

[xbgod]

It's all good, just lots of preperation. PRI I belive is Dec. 9-12. Let me know if you intend to be their. I'll arrange a meet and greet with some people from NHRA.

You'll dig it

XBG

[maxxman420]

"falls on ground"... "craps pants"

[Bluevitz-rs]

"falls on ground"... "craps pants"

Pour guy, too much to take in at one time? :laugh:

[xbgod]

I must be semi-retarted.....Explain your self.

[sleey0]

Yeah. Im not getting it either, xb. Lol

Pm sent

[maxxman420]

Pour guy, too much to take in at one time? :laugh:

haha just a llittle:eyebulge:

[xbgod]

We'll your either trying to put in a sly comment without being straight forward or I'm still retarted.

either way..it makes no sense.

Movin-on to what this thread is about tooooo many right turns.

XBG

[Yoda]

To sum it up. He was in awe of seeing your build. So much so he couldnt handle it. Leading to him craping his pants and dying.

[xbgod]

my stupid-ass finally got what you were trying to say.

I must be getting old.

Almost time to get home and turn some wrenches, then trailer it to the dyno.

Then it's into body shop for some external modifications (vizage / FAB style that is).

XBG

[maxxman420]

dude cant wait to see those dyno charts!

[Bluevitz-rs]

You ginna Wide-Body the box? That'd be sick.

[xbgod]

Me too. I'll be using a MD500 Dyno, it's as real world as you can get. It calculates for wind resistance and hill incline driving. Numbers on a MD500 are usually lower do to that real world factor; which is about 18%. You will never see me dyno a car where you pull the wheels off and take out the rotating factor. I will keep this tune to as real drving as possible, no gimmicks.

XBG

[maxxman420]

Oh sweet thats an awesome dyno

[xbgod]

I actually got a FAB front bumper from Japan (stupid expensive) Then also got the side skirts and rear bumper from there made out of Carbon-fiber. I chose a vizage Grill cause it complemented the the rest of it, not to mention it was 250.00 and not 599.00 like the FAB grill. I wanted true JDM parts. I used a company called Bullet-Proof automotive to get this stuff.

XBG

[cali yaris]

BulletProof is a good company, but overpriced. I can import anything they can, direct from Japan, for less.

Try JapanParts.com also for great service on JDM import parts.

[xbgod]

Thanks for the heads-up. To bad I already bought the stuff. But thats ok, I had never really been into body kits and parts untill my friends kept pushing me to give it a different look.

I'll get with you should anything brake and needs to get replaced.

I'm W/D with Siebon and VIS but thats it as far as body stuff go's.

XBG

[cali yaris]

bodykits are NOT my favorite thing to deal with, anyways. :smile:

[xbgod]

Agreed, pain in the ass.....hince why I don't like to deal with them either. It dosen't make me faster, it just causes me to do more sanding to make it look right.

XBG

[sleey0]

Xbg

J
What does wd.mean? You mentioned that with blitz too.

[xbgod]

warehouse distributor.

Means I can buy it as low as it can be bought for.

XBG

[sleey0]

Ic.

Thanks aras.

Stay safe and get home soon!

[xbgod]

Some new pics of my turbo and head prior to install...Big , Bad Thumper...

[H3LlIoN]

awwwww crap....you bolted the manifold on the wrong side!

LOL Just kidding Aras...she's looking good brother. Gonna be great to see this puppy back together. You have any show dates in VA/DC/MD/NC?

[Parmas]

Nice turbo although I think you can have a better exhaust manifold that give you more power.

Also you will probably have an issue with your top cover that you can't remove it without removing the engine.

[xbgod]

no, I can get into it just fine. All is easily accessable.

Here are some more...............

[xbgod]

and one more

[cali yaris]

An equal length exhaust mani would give more power, but I'm making 357 whp with my log, so it's not sooooooo bad. LOL

[Yoda]

Looks nice but also really crowded...

[Parmas]

Man it's too over tuned here! I can't even locate the Oil cap!

I imagine having to service the engine.... what a pain in the ass

[xbgod]

It is a little crazy. But not to bad to service. spark plugs right on top, oil cap right to the left. Easy to get to. I'll post the engine bay soon so you can see it complete.

XBG

[xbgod]

some more to seeeeeeeeeeee

[cali yaris]

What coils and/or ignition module?

[Blown_xa]

looks cool. alot of room where the rain gutter is for a topmount. we have a xb we are doing with same turbo but with an equal length tubular. May offer it as a production peice. The tial ss housings are nice,good choice.

[xbgod]

Hey Cali, the coil packs are Bosch and my Ignition is from Microtech. The Crank Trigger is by Electromotive.

Off to CFT on Monday to finish wiring the new T/B and Nitrous Electronics then it's tune time. By next weekend I'll have some numbers.

XBG

[xbgod]

Complete engine bay pics folks. Hope you think it looks good. Cause I'm getting closer to broke. JJ

XBG

[xbgod]

and a few more

[Yoda]

nice

[PETERPOOP]

HOLY..........FART

[cali yaris]

yeah that looks "good".. LOL :eek: :bow: :clap:

[xbgod]

Thanks Bro

[47_MasoN_47]

Holy crap...

Is there anything left of the original motor? lol

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Hot day-um.

Hey, what's going on with that other head you had?

[xbgod]

I brought it home from the shop. Once I know all is good with my tune this week then I'm cutting it loose.

[Yoda]

I can't wait to see the numbers

[llewellyn]

I'd be lying if I said it looks good.

That looks WICKED!

[xbgod]

Thanks dude. Been a hell of a project and a thought-Process from hell too.

XBG

[cali yaris]

By next weekend I'll have some numbers.

umm.... and? I ran out of popcorn, I'm getting anxious. :smile:

[xbgod]

Should have results by thurs / friday. There was alot of wiring to do. Between the new nitrous stuff and T/B along with getting rid of alot of old OEM stuff I no longer needed there were a few days of wiring. Basicly the car has a fresh wiring harness with no more stock stuff in the way anymore so a little more time was required.

Not to mention PRI is this weekend and everybody is getting ready for that too. So by this weekend time prevaling I should have some numbers.

Gonna meet up with the guys from Haltech and Motech at PRI along with some other individuals on ECU tunning. This is the who's who of racing show. All hard-core racing parts much different than SEMA. "no windshhield wipers on display here" not that SEMA isn't cool, it's just not as race oriented or hard core like this show.

I'll get with you guys soon on how it went down. Gotta do this trade show and get another car to the tune shop as well as pick mine up. So it will be busy this weekend.

I'll be out of the loop after thursday due to all these events going on. Not to mention Import Face Off is 16 jan. at Bradenton motorsports parkway in Fl. And Scion just contacted me about putting my car on display for that event. So this is going to be a busy month with all the current events coming up.

So by monday I'll post what the numbers are and eveything that has transpired.

XBG

[cali yaris]

^ K, Monday then.

[H3LlIoN]

anybody going to IFO @ VMP? I was thinking about cruising down...

[Bluevitz-rs]

^ K, Monday then.

this is like waiting for Gran Turismo 5 to come out. :bellyroll:

[Blown_xa]

anybody going to IFO @ VMP? I was thinking about cruising down...

when is this?

[H3LlIoN]

blah. 10/30/11, tentative. sucks.

[henry33]

do you have some video of the running engine ?

[Blown_xa]

blah. 10/30/11, tentative. sucks.

darn, you had me excited for a sec. All the strips are closed till march....boo. There is a nasa autocross at VMP Jan. 23, im there.

[xbgod]

Well guys it's been quite a weekend to say the least. Still haven't dynoed because of the PRI Trade show but made some great connections and some new sponsorship.

As you know we were going to use Microtech to tune my car with but some new people have stepped up to the plate with an offer I don't think I can refuse.

After a sit down with Haltech and chatting with one of the persons responsable for sponsorship. And trip to CFT with them. After they saw the car and the mods it was all over with. 75% sponsorship is what is on the table from Haltech.

This system will even have a custom wiring harness pined-out from Haltech for my XB. Although this puts my time table forward I belive this is a deal woth doing.

I can use all my stock sensors and gain control of my VVTI with the set-up they are offering. It just so happens Rolo my tunner and a certian individual at Haltech know each other and this is what transpired.

New ECU
Dash-display
dual Wide-band
pre pined out wiring harness

This means no stock wiring at all, 100% redone dedicated wiring to everything.

XBG

[Blown_xa]

excellent . love haltec

[cali yaris]

so no results on Monday?

[Parmas]

I'm glad you chose Haltech as they give good support and their products are worth all the bucks. My engine is wired with the sport 1000 and the engine started good with no actual tuning at all :)

In case you need help, I am sure I can give you a hand on this.

Cheers

[H3LlIoN]

darn, you had me excited for a sec. All the strips are closed till march....boo. There is a nasa autocross at VMP Jan. 23, im there.


There is a race @ Richmond Dragway on the first dubbed "Hangover Nat'ls" but it's strictly 1/8 mile.

http://www.richmonddragway.com/ver9/?p=2477



@ XBGod....it's monday. What's good?

[H3LlIoN]

A traffic cop pulled alongside a speeding car on the motorway. Glancing into the car, he was astounded to see that the young lady, who was driving, was knitting.

Realizing that she was oblivious to his flashing lights and siren, the policeman wound down his window, turned on his loudspeaker and yelled, 'PULL OVER!'

'NO', the young lady yelled back, 'IT'S A SCARF


(I don't think we're getting dyno results today.)

[cali yaris]

^ or this week

[xbgod]

Guys I want to give you dyno results too. But I'm willing to wait a little longer when I've got something better to work with at my finger tips. No use in short changing my self when I've got so much invested thus far. I want the most out of this build I can get so were on stand by untill the new Haltech is installed with all the features and add ons.

XBG

[Bluevitz-rs]

HAHA, JUST like Gran Turismo 5.

[cali yaris]

^ lol

[H3LlIoN]

How about teasing us with pics/vid of your car from the last build? I'd love to see pics of what it was like before you tore it apart again...don't think I've seen vid either of her running. Or history perhaps...I don't even know why you are building an xB or your car history. I'm always one for a good story. Also, and maybe you've already answered, but what were your numbers the last time she ran? IE, what are you trying to beat, and what are you expecting this thing to make?

[xbgod]

228hp from the last build with a Greddy 14G turbo. Car ran great had no issues. So I'm hoping to be around 360-380hp on this build with the fuel I'm using and new turbo set-up. Remember I'll be using a MD500 to tune with so numbers on this dyno are always smaller than any other dyno out there, especially a racepack dyno which lies it's ass-off.

Just gotta get it back together now since the head delema with Gude.

XBG

[H3LlIoN]

What head dilemma? I thought you said all was well with gude?

Also, md500...is that the infamous "heartbreaker" mustang?

And pics mang! You have show pics or anything? I don't think I've ever seen a pic of your car in one piece! Not that I don't enjoy pic pron, but just curious. Also, why an xB? If you've got that kind of money, you coulda' built anything...give us some back story!

And good luck with the haltech goodies...when are you expecting them to come in?

[xbgod]

That is the Mustang Dyno....The king of real numbers. And yes we thought all was good with the head, the clearences were good and all appeared to be in good shape. There were a coiple of things that we didn't like but not enough to deture us from trying it. My biggest fault is not getting a compression check after the install of it, before I took it to Rolo at CFT to tune. But lesson learned, rolo caught it and is fixing it as we speak. Here are some old pics prior to this build. I didn't post them because they are irrelevant to how it will look now.

XBG

[turboecho2005]

Prior to this build I had a Greddy turbo kit 14G and maxed out at 228hp. What I am showing you now is all new and I have not tuned it yet. I'm waiting on a head from Gude to finalize the motor build. As far as how much coin is in this build, I've lost track but my wife hasn't. I think total which includes the car and everthing I've done inside and out around 65k. Nothing on this car has gone untouched. I think the VIN# is still the same though. Here is a pic of the brake system with my old AXIS wheels on. Front and rear 13" full floater race kits.

Jesus man... hope you realized that you put all that money into the wrong type of car... You could be driving a LS6 corvette with 1000hp...

[Blown_xa]

That is the Mustang Dyno....The king of real numbers. And yes we thought all was good with the head, the clearences were good and all appeared to be in good shape. There were a coiple of things that we didn't like but not enough to deture us from trying it. My biggest fault is not getting a compression check after the install of it, before I took it to Rolo at CFT to tune. But lesson learned, rolo caught it and is fixing it as we speak. Here are some old pics prior to this build. I didn't post them because they are irrelevant to how it will look now.

XBG

right on, eff fake numbers. Notice my sig haha! dyno dynamics and mustang dynos are realistic (wo correction). We dynod a stock tC2 to get a baseline before we did a turbo kit and it did 158whp, a dynapack read 205whp.... higher than factory rated at crank....wtf. I know which particular dyno it was too but im not gonna get into that.

As long as the car is tuned well thats what matters, whatever dyno it may have been on.

[xbgod]

Yeah I know i've spent way to much on this car. But I also know I haved helped pioneer the way to new parts. And the addiction of getting more out of this car just consumed me, especially with guys that said you'll never get 200hp. So if anything I'll be remembered as the cocky ass-hole who spent to much money but also helped get the performance end of things going.

XBG

[PETERPOOP]

That's strange because the local dynapack here reads way less than dynojets. However, all of these things are calibrated differently. The two dynojets here read drastically different too.

[Parmas]

Yeah I know i've spent way to much on this car. But I also know I haved helped pioneer the way to new parts. And the addiction of getting more out of this car just consumed me, especially with guys that said you'll never get 200hp. So if anything I'll be remembered as the cocky ass-hole who spent to much money but also helped get the performance end of things going.

XBG

Man, you share the same opinion I do with mine. In the past 3 years building my engine, I got too much people bumping my head saying that you won't reach your goals with this engine and that I will never surpass a startlet bulit engine ( Here, the much trusted 4EFTE 1.3L engine)

Also in my country, I am the only one who dared making this thing up SO----- or I would be remembered as the cocky ass-hole who spent too much money for nothing (like XBG said) or I will be remembered as the person who tried to do something different with success.

[H3LlIoN]

I personally build my car for my own personal enjoyment. I don't think I'd want to be remembered as "the cocky asshole in the yaris" as you two put it. To each their own, I guess.

[xbgod]

Unfortunately when you spend an ass-load of money and do things others can't do. You sometimes get the, "I'd of bought this kind of car" or "you could of built this with all the money you spent."

So unfortunately with guys like me that put it all out there for others to have cool things we sometimes catch the nay-sayers and haters who don't have a pot to piss in and live friday to friday.

Belive me no body wants to be rembered as the ass-hole but sometimes people rock the boat and intise MF's like me who have the money to explore.

XBG

[Blown_xa]

Unfortunately when you spend an ass-load of money and do things others can't do. You sometimes get the, "I'd of bought this kind of car" or "you could of built this with all the money you spent."

So unfortunately with guys like me that put it all out there for others to have cool things we sometimes catch the nay-sayers and haters who don't have a pot to piss in and live friday to friday.

Belive me no body wants to be rembered as the ass-hole but sometimes people rock the boat and intise MF's like me who have the money to explore.

XBG

I say "built , not bought" Any asshole with a good down payment and credit can pick up a gtr or vette from the local dealership, im the guy that passes those assholes on the track with my $7k car. So I am with u xbg. You may have spent a lot of $, but it is unique. Another plus is that insurance is cheap, they don't assume the box is 400whp lol.

[johnny_vitz]

I say "built , not bought" Any asshole with a good down payment and credit can pick up a gtr or vette from the local dealership, im the guy that passes those assholes on the track with my $7k car. So I am with u xbg. You may have spent a lot of $, but it is unique. Another plus is that insurance is cheap, they don't assume the box is 400whp lol.

Well said :clap:

[Parmas]

I say "built , not bought" Any asshole with a good down payment and credit can pick up a gtr or vette from the local dealership, im the guy that passes those assholes on the track with my $7k car. So I am with u xbg. You may have spent a lot of $, but it is unique. Another plus is that insurance is cheap, they don't assume the box is 400whp lol.

Agreed!

[xbgod]

No new news yet. The shop has been busey and my buddy's Scion TC needed to get done before mine. (His is a daily driver so I made Rolo make sure his was done before mine) I should be ready by tues. for Dyno or wed by latest, depending on how the X-mas holiday goes.

Hope everyone has a great X-mas

XBG

[PETERPOOP]

merry christmas

[changchewsoon]

man i really love reading this thread, made my day! :)

[cali yaris]

I should be ready by tues. for Dyno or wed by latest,

I think Wednesday came and went.

[Tamago]

hype lol

[ilikerice]

lol

[H3LlIoN]

I think I'd be looking for a new tuner, unless this guy really can make a car shit gold bricks.

[ilikerice]

no no, i understand that somethings dont go as planned as a mechanic so i can only imagine the issues tuners go thru on trying to get the right tune and adjusting things accordingly. some things take longer then expected and dialing in things just right just takes time. also, its between holidays right now.. cut them a break.

[xbgod]

Yes the holidays have made things a challange. But here is where I am right now. I know you guys love the updates and the drama.

Yesterday we went on the dyno but not before fixing a leaky methanol fitting and the one way valve for it that wasn't so one way. But after those two things on to the MD500 we went.

Still not finished because I have the wrong spring in my Tial MV-S wastegate and could not do a damn thing about it yesterday.

So here is how it went yesterday:

3200 rpm with 4.3lb of boost = 132hp
4800 rpm with 16lb of boost = 282hp

WAs using 107 octane and meth

My red line is 7000rpm. so here is where I am untill sometime next week untill I get the new springs from Tial. I have done so much mods that in light of doing all this stuff I didn't even pay attention to the spring rate that was preinstalled in the wastegate. We were on the dyno and noticed that we couldn't get past the above numbers untill further inspection of the wstegate.

So next week new number will be available. The car sounds amazing with the 70mm TB and all my race engine stuff.

Oh and gets better............pushed the car down the ramps on the dyno set it to the side for about 10min. got back in to drive it around and some how the transmission linkage cables are either binding or broke from god knows what. Was getting dark and to close to beer-thirty to give a shit so back at on monday.

There is your update you impaticent bastards (LOL):headbang:

XBG

[cdydjded]

There is your update you impaticent bastards (LOL):headbang:

XBG

Statement of the year......

[H3LlIoN]

The car sounds amazing with the 70mm TB and all my race engine stuff.


I wanna hear it! Take a cam with you next time. :) Anyway, glad it's at least running...282 is above and beyond what most of our cars will see. I know it's nowhere near your goal, but it's at least something, so congrats on that, and good luck with the tranny/wastegate. Thx for the update.

[PETERPOOP]

sweet

[cali yaris]

I have the wrong spring in my Tial MV-S wastegate

What is the wrong spring?

[fnkngrv]

Jesus man... hope you realized that you put all that money into the wrong type of car... You could be driving a LS6 corvette with 1000hp...


This coming from a guy that decided to be unique as well and build the Echo the way you did? Come on now.

as stated....ANYONE CAN SPEND THE CASH AND PICK UP SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH X AMOUNT OF HP OR PERFORMANCE! Who will remember those people or even give them props for being original? Not a damned person. No one...notta....zip....zilch. geesh.

You will be remembered for doing something truly unique with your whip just like Aras.

[Parmas]

Yes the holidays have made things a challange. But here is where I am right now. I know you guys love the updates and the drama.

Yesterday we went on the dyno but not before fixing a leaky methanol fitting and the one way valve for it that wasn't so one way. But after those two things on to the MD500 we went.

Still not finished because I have the wrong spring in my Tial MV-S wastegate and could not do a damn thing about it yesterday.

So here is how it went yesterday:

3200 rpm with 4.3lb of boost = 132hp
4800 rpm with 16lb of boost = 282hp

WAs using 107 octane and meth

My red line is 7000rpm. so here is where I am untill sometime next week untill I get the new springs from Tial. I have done so much mods that in light of doing all this stuff I didn't even pay attention to the spring rate that was preinstalled in the wastegate. We were on the dyno and noticed that we couldn't get past the above numbers untill further inspection of the wstegate.

So next week new number will be available. The car sounds amazing with the 70mm TB and all my race engine stuff.

Oh and gets better............pushed the car down the ramps on the dyno set it to the side for about 10min. got back in to drive it around and some how the transmission linkage cables are either binding or broke from god knows what. Was getting dark and to close to beer-thirty to give a shit so back at on monday.

There is your update you impaticent bastards (LOL):headbang:

XBG

Congrats on your numbers although low for your build (you should be running above 350Bhp! :thumbsup:

Re: the trans cables, I had mine changed two times because of overheating. Mine was always the shift cable mainly since this is the closest cable to the turbo downpipe. Check if the downpipe is touching the cables and if you can put some wrapping around the cables aswell

[xbgod]

Cali this is for you.......

Bar
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
1.5
1.6
1.7
PSI
4.35
5.80
7.25
8.70
10.15
11.60
13.05
14.50
15.95
17.40
18.85
20.30
21.75
23.20
24.66
Description
MVSBROWN
MVSGOLD
MVSBEIGE
MVSGREY
MVSGOLD/BROWN
MVSCOPPER/BROWN
MVSGREY/BROWN
MVSGREYIGOLD
MVSMAROON/BEIGE
MVSCOPPERIMAROON
MVSGREY/GOLD/BROWN
MVSCOPPER/MAROON/BROWN
MVSGREY/MAROON/BROWN
MVSCOPPER/MAROOI\I/BEIGE
MVSGREY/MAROON/BEIGE

each number represents a spring rate color below. This is how Tial does their waste gates.

Thanks Parma, will look at the same issue you had. I hope thats it and problem solved.

And yes will be in around 380 hp when done. That motor of mine is a beast and sounds awsome. It spools up quick with that new GTX style turbo. I have alot more power available just gotta change that spring and fix that tranny cable.

XBG

[cali yaris]

^ I know that. You didn't answer my question.

I'm using a 10 psi spring and I can run up to 30 psi. So what spring are you using now, and what's wrong with it?

[Parmas]

Cali this is for you.......


Thanks Parma, will look at the same issue you had. I hope thats it and problem solved.

And yes will be in around 380 hp when done. That motor of mine is a beast and sounds awsome. It spools up quick with that new GTX style turbo. I have alot more power available just gotta change that spring and fix that tranny cable.

XBG

I fixed it by replacing the cable, don't waste time repairing it. Also had to wait for weeks for the cable tru Toyota service.

380bhp with Nos and Turbo is easily achievable.

Can you give detail information about the head you are running now instead of gude? I am interested because I am running a stock head and I wish to know how much power it's components withstand, especially the valve springs.

[xbgod]

Cali,

mine has gold spring in it now. putting in a greygold one by recommendation of my tunner.

My engine is a beast it just keeps wanting to put out more. Never seen it act as powerful as now.

Parma I will defintaley order a new one from Toyota and if need be next day air it in.

Thanks dude.

XBG

[cali yaris]

^ I still don't understand why it's the "wrong" spring.

[xbgod]

The gold spring was only allowing me to get to 5.8 psi before it would shut me down. So in order to make more PSI we took the waste gate out of the equation for now and set up the boost controller through the Greddy boost controller only and by-passed the wastegate all together. The problem with that is boost creep so I'm not pushing the envelpoe untill I change the spring sometime next week. Also had to reroute a couple of vacuum lines to do so.

Hope this explains it a little better.

XBG

[Nexus1155]

Even if you have a lower wastegate spring, isn't the purpose of a boost controller to only allow the wastegate to crack open once it has reached the desired boost level? So even if you had the spring in with the boost controller attached, you would crack once the boost controller allows the air to flow into the wastegate regardless of whatever spring is in it?

I dunno if I am reading it wrong or am missing something, let me know

[cali yaris]

This is not making sense, sorry.

The spring determines the minimum boost you can run, not the maximum.
The purpose of a boost controller is to run more than that (and get to it faster).
How did you control boost without a wastegate?

The gold spring was only allowing me to get to 5.8 psi before it would shut me down. So in order to make more PSI we took the waste gate out

[xbgod]

Yes I understand that too. Which is why I think Tial preinstalled that smaller spring. But my tuner has something else in mind. So off to what ever he deems necessary.

I don't care what he uses as long as I get to 380hp. Which at this point I know I can.

Turning off the VVTI with my system has worked out great. no issues what so ever.

XBG

[xbgod]

Hope this clears up the spring issue:

The gold spring I had in the waste gate was a 4.8 and is only good for twice that amount of boost before it cant hold. (about 10psi)

The new combination is a Grey/gold which will hold upto 29psi. but the car must be able to make at a minimum 14.5lb of boost or you will never hold pressure.

Hope this helps peolpe understand a little better.

XBG

[cali yaris]

It doesn't clear it up. Above the spring's rating, the boost controller keeps the wastegate shut until desired boost is reached.

I'll say no more on this, looking forward to your results which I'm sure will be good.

[xbgod]

Thats the best I can do for ya Cali. I even talked to the Jake at Tial he said that gold spring would never work either for 28psi. Has to be the grey/ gold to make it happen.

On the other hand.......and this is for Parma..........

Shifter cable was burned right through. 200.00 for a new one. Wrapping the new one in DEI shield and having a aluminum shroud with a heat resistant material from DEI put on the other side of it to also block the heat.

You were right on with your S.W.A.G

XBG

[Tamago]

i went through a set of cables after my turbo build too. it was a struggle. toyota put the cables dangerously close to the stock exhaust, and when you upgrade "go bigger" you immediately heat up your stock cables.

good luck Aras (asshole).

[Blown_xa]

looks like promising results so far. Hey remember i mentioned the wastegate spring a couple weeks ago.... hehe. I remember looking at your build pictures, one thing that is probably causing the creep is the fact your recirculating dump is kinda short and dumps at a perpindicular angle into the downpipe. The exhaust flow from the downpipe may be causing pressure in the dump therefore causing a reverse wastegating effect... boost creep. Worst case run an open dump. Having the wastegate opposite from turbo entry won't help either, but with a top mount log manifold i guess there is no place else for it. Your gonna run a lot of boost anyhow so creep wont really effect u at 30psi. With a proper wastegate spring, you should be able to hold 30psi all the way to redline with that turbo I would imagine.

[xbgod]

Your so kind Tamago.....Thanks brother.

And I think your right about that.BlownXA

XBG

[cali yaris]

ooh 30 psi... nom nom nom

[Bluevitz-rs]

It doesn't clear it up. Above the spring's rating, the boost controller keeps the wastegate shut until desired boost is reached.

I'll say no more on this, looking forward to your results which I'm sure will be good.

The physical pressure inside the exhaust turbine is becoming greater than pressure of the spring before the desired boost level is being reached. So the pressure of the exhaust alone is enough to open the waste gate. No need to add vacuum pressure on the other side of the spring to open it, so no boost controller will ever be able to hold it closed if the there's more pressure inside the exhaust than spring pressure holding the gate shut.

So, desired boost pressure is a combination of exhaust pressure, spring pressure and vacuum pressure. The only one we have control over is vacuum.

[Parmas]

Shifter cable was burned right through. 200.00 for a new one. Wrapping the new one in DEI shield and having a aluminum shroud with a heat resistant material from DEI put on the other side of it to also block the heat.

You were right on with your S.W.A.G

XBG

The trans cables are the only reason I kept the exhaust downpipe at 2.5". If I increased it to 3" I would surely burn a cable every month probably :mad:

The yaris engine bay is too compact to go extreme without issues like these...

[Yoda]

Did your hood scoop help much in reducing underhood temps?

[cali yaris]

my downpipe is 3", along with the rest of the exhaust. I haven't had any problems with trans cables. Must be a different downpipe shape than you guys have.

[xbgod]

Don't know on the hood scoop thing.

when I'm on the dyno my whole front end is off and my hood is open.

Like You Parma my exhaust is 2.5' all the way through as well.

Cable should be in today and new wastegate spring by thursday. Then back at it again.

XBG

[Parmas]

my downpipe is 3", along with the rest of the exhaust. I haven't had any problems with trans cables. Must be a different downpipe shape than you guys have.

I think your exhaust downpipe is facing towards the left (looking from infront of car) which is opposite to the trans cables and that is probably the reason why you never had such issues. Be happy with that decision, trust me :thumbsup:

[xbgod]

Well Cable has been reinstalled and DEI heat wrapped along with this fabricated shroud to block the heat. Waiting on the spring to show up for the wastegate.

But in the mean while I went ahead and had the gear oil changed in the tranny. Put back in Amsoil MTGQT 75-90 figured since I was in there may as well start fresh.

Well thats where were at today guys

XBG

[Tamago]

how long do you think that transmission is gonna last?

[cali yaris]

^ who knows, mine is holding up well, and Art raced the crap out of his xB at 280 whp.

[Tamago]

my 6bolt echo transmission lasted 5 months at 160+ whp :(

[cali yaris]

^ bleh. I'll pray more.

[xbgod]

Yeah the trans. Is the weakest link in this car. And with not alot of after market parts available, it is was it is, a time bomb.

I'm using a Fidenza 4.3 clutch and flywheel in this trans and that's about it. Nothing else real special. Should this thing shit the bed I contacted Chris at Kaaz for a new build at their facility. Will use their Lsd and have the gears cryogenicly treated, use the same Fidenza parts let them do all the work and then reinstall. That's about all I'm gonna be able to do and then let it ride.

XBG

[Yoda]

Man u must be made of money

[ilikerice]

money trees all over florida, u didnt know?... he probably gots a money tree farm in his back yard i bet..

[xbgod]

no I just print more...............Don't you?

The cost actually isn't to bad to do this.

I would just send in my transmission housing along with the new gears that I would buy with my Toyota parts account. (big discount)

Cryo cost = 200.00
LSD = 950.00
Kaaz rebuild to include hand chamfering of all gears = 1,000.00

Fidenza 4.3 clutch = free

Fidenza flywheel = free

so all brand new shit hand chamfered and assembled ready to go = 2,450.00

not to bad for alittle piece of mind. But still no guarantee. But Untill I break this one it will still stay as is.

XBG

[Yoda]

You can get slot of Big Macs with that money. You sure you don't wanna buy us all lunch :)

[Blown_xa]

my trans has over 120,000 miles on it, seen boost since 5000 miles. I don't have traction until 80mph though, I guess when I slap slicks on in the spring ill be clinching my buttcheeks... cause then it will see a lot of load.

[xbgod]

You can do just about anything with the right people and money. There aare just not enough tranny guys out there that do high performance race builds on this stuff.

It's not like Crower, Pauter, CP and so fourth that have Pre-made extrusions that they machine into what they want.

You'd have to start from dead scratch with this tranny stuff and be way out in one -off land. And still have someone who is willing to take it on. It would be outragous. Easier to just get a new-used tranny from E-bay for 400.00 and use it till it breaks.

The cost on the other, if you could find some company willing to do it would be thousands. Their is just no demand for it, much like the Ferrea valvetrain. Hince why it's so expensive.

XBG

[cali yaris]

^ You'd also have the challenge of knowing exactly what you wanted to change about it. That would be based on and very specific to what you plan on doing with the car. Autocross, road racing, and drag racing are very different setups in this respect.

[xbgod]

Yes, lots to consider. I'll just continue to do what I'm doing or do the build I mentioned above when my shit breaks.

XBG

[johnny_vitz]

thanks for the answer guys.what about a different tranny other than that from the 1NZFE, how difficult/expensive is it to mate a different tranny to an engine.


ps. Tam no need to be a smartbutt please

Bluevitz has a C160 (6 speed) on his echo, he has a DIY written up.
http://yarisfans.com/forum/yaf_postst23_My-6-Speed-conversion-Thread.aspx
I think the only special tool needed is the "B" puller set

[Scubaru Steve]

Sweet setup on the xb!
loving the spt coupler :wink:

[xbgod]

Looks like all is put back together and my new spring rate from Tial is 16.75 for my wastegate, which was decided by my tunner.

Transmission is good to go and custom cable cover and shroud all done. So hopefully no more burn throughs.

So Monday morning it's off to the alignment rack to get me a perfect stance with the right amount of camber and so fourth. As well as I'm tucking the tires as far into the wheel wells as possible. Trying to get me a nasty bad-ass stance. Once that is done back on the Dyno sometime monday afternoon or possibly Tuesday morning depending on dyno situation. Then hopefully some great numbers to show. Can't wait to get through this part to move on to the next step of sheet metal Hull and new K-Sport hand-Brake and new stuff from Sparco. Here are some pics of the new items. Let me know what you think.

XBG

[Scubaru Steve]

im kinda jelous of the hydraulic handbrake....

[H3LlIoN]

I'll just continue to do what I'm doing or do the build I mentioned above when my shit breaks.

XBG

Yeah budday! I bet you rack up a shitload of miles pulling that thing on and off the trailer. :thumbsup:

[xbgod]

not really. Car has always been streetable and will still be when finished.

XBG

[cali yaris]

What's the purpose of that handbrake?

[xbgod]

Honestly...........just to be different and have something else done that no one else has.

It will just go well with the sheet metal hull. It will take the place of my e-brake and be fully functional.

XBG

[Bluevitz-rs]

you going to add a second set of callipers on the rear for the e-brake?

[xbgod]

no need to. It taps right into my rear brake line. You'll notice there is no resivor for fluid for a seperate set of calipers.


XBG

[Bluevitz-rs]

so there's some kind of one way valve built in i guess so the fluid doesn't just push back to the master.

[jouna]

what are you trying to do with this xb. 1/4 races?. circuit? or just for kicks?

[xbgod]

Just one nasty street queen. Don't really have time for any thing else. I can hit shows once in awhile. But I Plan to have the nicest most extreme XB around.

XBG

[ilikerice]

i totally respect the trailer queen scene.. my best friend/old roomate had close to $80k invested (with receipts to prove) in his crx.. i helped with motor issues and interior projects and we used to ride in his suv pulling his crx on a trailer to HIN, TunerBash, and other shows thru out the years.. oh how i miss the smell of spray wax in a convention centers..

I DONT MEAN TO CRASH UR THREAD.. i totally think ur XB is the shit and your doing it right.. hands down total respect :bow:

[Nexus1155]

MORE EXTREME THAN THIS!???!!?

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/gallery/event_coverage/sema/2007/sema_day_1_10-30-07/0246.jpg

[ilikerice]

^really? a v8?^

[Bluevitz-rs]

Yeah That V8 Powered xb is about as bad ass as you can get

[ilikerice]

sacrilegious dudette.. hahahahaaa

[Nexus1155]

The rims are a little too baller for me, but that thing makes ~ 800hp, can easily hit 1000hp i bet.

[xbgod]

I would love to have Mobil 1's money. Thats more like a chassis race car with a XB body.

Well fact, thats exactly what it is. But it's so BAD-ASS

I'll keep my 75k 1st GEN 1NZ-FE

XBG

[H3LlIoN]

not really. Car has always been streetable and will still be when finished.

XBG

Eh I'm just teasing...been following this thing for a year and still haven't seen it run (found the build thread on scikotics right after you broke it back down.) Can't wait to see what happens with this.

[Yoda]

is that thing twin turbo?

[xbgod]

Yes that Mobil 1 XB2 is twin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll have final numbers this week on the XB and video to follow. I'll pick it up this fri or sat. Then I'll post all the numbers.

Just ordered a 160amp alternator to keep both batteries charged. Of course It's being chromed to match the rest of my stuff first.

Always something being done.

XBG

[xbgod]

Suspension has been set and car is all aligned. Can't belive they got those big-ass wheels tucked and car droped. Looks quite impressive, can't wait to show you guys.

Well all that is left mechanically is to do a final Dyno tune, which will be done tonight or sometime tommorow depending on Dyno schedule.

I can than atleast drive it around to the next couple of shops for final details. Also got a 160 amp alternator thats been chromed ordered in. Should have it by end of week. Needed something a little stronger to support 2 batteries in my car.

Moving in the right direction now!

XBG

フィックシウス
“To Put Into Flight”

[cali yaris]

Moving in the right direction now!

Yeah, forward. And really, really fast.

[xbgod]

Hopefully atleast fast enough to hang with you :burnrubber:

XBG

[Yoda]

Yo Xb do you know what cft tuning rates are? can you trow me an estimate..?

[xbgod]

It varies depending on ECU. Rates usually go between 300-500 for complete tune on the MD500.

Your best bet is to call and talk to Rolo let him that I told you to talk to him and He'll give you my disount. We have a business relationship with customers I refer.

Tell him Aras sent you. Here is the shop number 407-273-1051

You can also go to cftshop.com

XBG

[Yoda]

sweet

[ilikerice]

im sorry, but im in savannah, where are u located in FL, if u dont wanna put that info on the threads, throw me a pm.. i was going to go to a place in jacksonville, but ill drive the extra few hours to a tuner familiar with a 1nz

[TRD_Turbo_Yazza]

nice lokks a screamer would look good in a vitz/echo/yaris

[xbgod]

CFT is in Orlando, Fl. I have a house in Tampa. I also have an apartment in Ft. Stewart, Ga. If your in Savannah I'm currently 30 min or so from you. So if you need to bullshit or get together let me know.

Headed to Fl. Thursday night to pick up car over the weekend. Hopefully numbers sometime today. I'll update this evening.

XBG

[ilikerice]

oh sweet.. yea.. i moved to savannah cuz my dad was stationed there then he finally retired, when i graduated, he moved back to texas and i stayed with friends and a few other family members here in savannah.. i trip to orlando for a tune is nothing then.. i was more scared u were gonna say miami. but thanks for the offer. i will definitly hit u up sometime when i get a standalone. maybe we can ride together to orl. thats a few months from now for me though.. gotta get this LSD first

[ilikerice]

oh, and have u been to or know people who have been to 'VelocityTrends' in jacksonville? ive only heard stories of "my friend went there and..." but nobody has any good insight on the place.. i drove by it once or twice. alot of high dollar cars there.. but was curious if they were familiar with 1nz's

[xbgod]

Well I did some looking about Velocity Trends in Jax. Couldn't find much about them good or bad. Other than people have had a good time hanging out there.

Second they have no web-site which leaves me wondering about what they're capable of. I would never leave a tune to a company that can't show what they can do or have substancial people to back up their claims. I have no idea what dyno they use or what ECU's they tune.

I would call and ask what ECU's they do tune, then I would follow up by calling the places directly to verify the legitamecy of their knowledge of their ECU. They should have a certificate to show their qualification.

Their are to many wana be shops that say they tune and don't know a thing but talk a good talk.

Rolo at CFT has certs. for Microtech, Haltech, AEM, Greddy, Crome, Hondata and a couple of others. And his certs a verifiable. So just look before you leap.

XBG

[ilikerice]

yea, i was getting the same response from others. i looked up thier old website and tried calling thier number but was disconnected.. i was unable to contact anyone.. but this was back in april/may of last year.. i may drive the extra 2-3 hours to orlando. they obviously got expericence with what im considering doing.. thanks a bunch on ur help.

[xbgod]

no problem dude.

OK, this is a piss poor picture out side CFT by the bays. It was taken on a camera phone so I could see the stance of the car after the allignment. I get alot of request to show a pic of the entire ride but since i'm not done with it I've been hesatant on doing so. But against my better judgement I decided to give you all something to look at. It's very grainey but you can get the idea.

XBG

[PETERPOOP]

hot rod

[xbgod]

Well, it's over. Got this 20 min. ago...........final results gentalman. I'll get the video they shot over the weekend. Thanks for the support on this build.

XBG

[Tamago]

conservative Hp numbers. you must be pulling lots of timing. . .

[xbgod]

Thats what Rolo said.

VVTI is off and Microtech is still the main ECU right now. I have a Haltech unit coming in still but untill I get it I'll take the numbers I got.

XBG

[cali yaris]

Congrats on some real nice numbers. Looks like it went very lean above 4k?

What was your boost on that pull?

How come it stops making power at 4200 rpm?

[xbgod]

23 PSI on that run.

Using Torco 107 octane and VP M1 Meth.

Also still have not used nitrous yet. Just incase someone asks.

Going to go like this for 2,500 miles then try out the nitrous.

XBG

[PETERPOOP]

Very lean!

Nice numbers though. Couldn't imagine what 300+ whp feels like in a yaris.

[Nexus1155]

Tuner needs to tune better.... you will have much greater numbers.

[Parmas]

I agree the map is too lean even for low boost above 4K. Increase fuel you are risking the motor life drastically.

Also if that was my dyno I would just shift at 5300rpm... after that you are loosing power and time.

[Yoda]

I see you are using Torco 107 octane. Was a conversion used to account for that octane to show in the afr? I am using 100 octane so when I see for example 13 afr on my gauge its actually running a bit richer than that. There is still lots more power I feel you can extract from it cause its way lean in the upper part where you power band just levels off. Very good job tho Xb! Thanks for contributing

[Parmas]

Tuner needs to tune better.... you will have much greater numbers.

Sorry you are wrong here, richer mixture isn't equal to greater numbers infact it's the opposite way.

The best mixture is 14.7 stoich AFR and XBG map is going above it at lowest and highest rpm. So he is getting the maximum numbers he can achieve... richin the mixture makes the numbers lower but prevents damage to the engine

To Yoda... I think the conversion was made to account for the octane rating.... since at 3K rpm he's about maximum rich 10.

[cali yaris]

The best mixture is 14.7 stoich AFR

stoich yes, at WOT no, better down around 12. Dyno pulls are done at WOT.

[Parmas]

stoich yes, at WOT no, better down around 12. Dyno pulls are done at WOT.

I forgot to mention 12 AFR for boost and lower AFR for high boost in case of boost spikes.

[Nexus1155]

Sorry you are wrong here, richer mixture isn't equal to greater numbers infact it's the opposite way.

Ehhhh, Sweet spot is around 11.* for turbos and theres a bunch of reasoning behind that. Of course you can lean it out and make power, but aiming for stoich, really? you will make more power from having a proper afr and more ignition advance.... Safer too.

[scioncrew]

YAA LEAN IS MEAN!! LOL LOVE IT!

[scioncrew]

love to see what that motor looks like now.

[Scubaru Steve]

love to see what that motor looks like now.

+1

[Focus_Sh1ft]

Nice numbers - scary lean AFR though.

Must be the high octane fuel and methanol that's keeping your motor in one piece.

[Blown_xa]

Congrats on some real nice numbers. Looks like it went very lean above 4k?

What was your boost on that pull?

How come it stops making power at 4200 rpm?

youre looking at the torque curve garm.

[Blown_xa]

Good numbers man. If you talk to your tuner again soon, ask him what correction he entered. I see it says sae correction method on the sheet. If its the latest method, it accounts for atmospheric conditions and a 15percent mechanical friction loss. Regardless, numbers are far from conservative as sombody say opposite. 300hp plus from a 1.5l is anything but conservative. So cheers to that.

[H3LlIoN]

Sweet numbers. Curious...what are you hoping to run at the track? What were your E.T.'s on the old build?

[scioncrew]

man thats a realy good looking dyno gragh. hopping you will take it to the drag strip.:burnrubber: good job on your build :thumbup:

[xnamerxx]

Check your fuel pump/lines/tune your running way way to lean I'm surprised you didn't melt a plug.

[cdydjded]

xBGOD: Have you considered using E85?

[xbgod]

Haven't considered E85. And to the other guy on my fuel pump, lines and so fourth, are you serious? I'm not even going to respond to that. All is working well and tune is great. I made good numbers and now I'm movin on. It's time to finish pimping it to look sexy and wash and wax it. The only thing I'm doing on the side is getting involved with someone else on a real cam set for these motors. This will be in the works for a little while but you can bet when I'm done with R/D with that it will be bullet proof. Don't ask me any questions on it cause it's top secret right now. But you can rest assured I will have a real head cam set for next year. It's been alot of fun and I set out to make power and did so. So if your a hater out there then beat my numbers, good luck.

XBG

[Yoda]

Waiting for the vid now so i can see it in action.