clutch replacement

[vwtech]

Just wondering how long a clutch replacement usually takes on a yaris I'm changing mine on saturday due to my input shaft seal leaking and soaking my clutch. Also once you get the subframe out of the way how much room do you have to work? I'll be working on a rack with a trans jack so it should make it a little easier.

[Kal-El]

Doubt anyone's changed theirs. Most members with high mileage report no problems. Even the member with over 400,000 miles. How many miles on yours?

[fnkngrv]

you might want to PM Cali_Yaris (Garm). He has had plenty of experience as I believe he may have upgraded his a couple times.

[vwtech]

75k and the oldest one is only 3 years old so that could be the lack of clutch replacement. I'm going with an aftermarket sachs I hate the stock clutch it engages within like 3mm its like an on off switch.

[eazyace]

Just curious but do any of you have problems when shifting to reverse? Sometimes I get a weird noise when shifting to reverse and sometimes it's harder than other times even though the clutch is pressed all the way. Any inputs?

[fnkngrv]

^ there are a few threads on this...many people have "upgraded" their tranny fluid in their manual Yarii to a synthetic like Redline 90MT or another 75-90 weight Synth. If you perform a search for it you will possibly find what you are talking about. I ordered the Redline fluid yesterday.

[eazyace]

^ there are a few threads on this...many people have "upgraded" their tranny fluid in their manual Yarii to a synthetic like Redline 90MT or another 75-90 weight Synth. If you perform a search for it you will possibly find what you are talking about. I ordered the Redline fluid yesterday.

Thanks! I will search for the upgrade fluid. I hope it helps cause getting tired of that

[sleey0]

I did the MT90 "upgrade" a couple of weeks ago and it makes shifting easier and much smoother, but the reverse issue is still there sometimes.

I have found that putting it into 2nd before Reverse helps A LOT. I only struggle with reverse occasionally know after figuring that out. lol

[eazyace]

yeah shifting is not a problem its just reverse. idk if its when the car is cold or what?

[DebbyM46227]

yeah shifting is not a problem its just reverse. idk if its when the car is cold or what?

I can't find the thread now, but when mine was brand new I heard & felt a strange noise sometimes after the car had sat overnight, when I first tried to put the gear in reverse. Now I move the gear to first gear, then reverse and I've not heard it since.

Here it is, it's the CLUNK!
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16172&highlight=manual+transmission+reverse

[eazyace]

^ yeah that's feeling I get. I guess it's normal it's just I hope down the line it doesn't screw my gears.

[swidd]

I believe the manual says that if the reverse is hard to get into, you should let the clutch out quickly and momentarily and let it move the gears, then try again.

[sleey0]

Yeah, I just think that reverse is closer in than we are used to as well.

If you place the shifter in reverse, try to place it very close to 4th. If you swing it to far out, that is when I have the most issues getting it in.

And I am sure it not having synchros has something to do with it not engaging fully down, but it still goes into reverse most times. Occassionaly I will get a grind.

[eazyace]

Yeah same here with the grid. I just hate that feeling. I have never had that in a car before.

[sleey0]

I had the grinding issue for maybe my first week with the car.

Once I figured out where and when it likes to be shifted, I no longer have that problem.

[Tamago]

the clutch swap shouldn't take more than a couple hours with a lift and tranny jack. i've dropped the clutch without dropping the subframe (but on an NCP61) it's almost easier to pull the whole engine and do the clutch on a bench, but that's my opinion of course.

[sleey0]

So, no one knows the approx labor hours for a clutch swap?

[Tamago]

So, no one knows the approx labor hours for a clutch swap?

official is probably 5-6

[Thirty-Nine]

I had my clutch replaced at 28,000 miles. Luckily it was under warranty. I had the TRD unit put in for $40. I have not futzed with the clutch myself, though.

[sleey0]

official is probably 5-6

Thanks you:smile:


I had my clutch replaced at 28,000 miles. Luckily it was under warranty. I had the TRD unit put in for $40. I have not futzed with the clutch myself, though.

Wow. Did you have to buy the clutch at the full price or did you get it for $40? That would be some deal!

[vwtech]

the clutch swap shouldn't take more than a couple hours with a lift and tranny jack. i've dropped the clutch without dropping the subframe (but on an NCP61) it's almost easier to pull the whole engine and do the clutch on a bench, but that's my opinion of course.


I dont think it would be easier to drop the engine and trans but who knows. What is an ncp61 anyways? wow an extra 40 bucks for a trd clutch that dealer cut you a good deal.

[Thirty-Nine]

Wow. Did you have to buy the clutch at the full price or did you get it for $40? That would be some deal!

They paid for the replacement of the OEM clutch; I paid an upcharge of $40 to add the TRD unit.

[sleey0]

Still an amazing deal. I can't believe the stealership let you do that.

More power to ya!

Now if only my clutch would go lol...

[yaris2010RS]

They paid for the replacement of the OEM clutch; I paid an upcharge of $40 to add the TRD unit.

what were the terms of getting it replaced under warranty?

[vwtech]

finally got the correct input seal in and I removed the trans to find the input shaft seal is INSIDE the transmission. I had to completely disassemble the entire transmission to replace the seal the job took me 7 hours I'm just glad we had the 4 different pullers needed to remove fifth gear and pull the input shaft bearing out to replace the seal. everyone needs to take a peak under their car to make sure your not leaking gear lube as well.
on a side note the trans is very easy to pull and you do not need to remove the subframe.

[vwtech]

the new clutch (sachs) also feels way better than the stock clutch it doesn't feel like an on off switch anymore I can now take off nice and smoothly.

[Bluevitz-rs]

So, no one knows the approx labor hours for a clutch swap?

It's 4.4 on an Echo, so i'd imagine similar time on a Yaris.

(Directly from the Toyota Flat Rate Book)

[sleey0]

Is that warranty hours or labor hours? Makes a difference.

BTW, You got a digital copy of Toyo's flat-rate book? :P

Might come in handy!

[Bluevitz-rs]

Is that warranty hours or labor hours? Makes a difference.

BTW, You got a digital copy of Toyo's flat-rate book? :P

Might come in handy!

My father works for Toyota Canada, so I asked him.

[sleey0]

Got it and thanks:)

[auxmike]

finally got the correct input seal in and I removed the trans to find the input shaft seal is INSIDE the transmission. I had to completely disassemble the entire transmission to replace the seal the job took me 7 hours I'm just glad we had the 4 different pullers needed to remove fifth gear and pull the input shaft bearing out to replace the seal. everyone needs to take a peak under their car to make sure your not leaking gear lube as well.
on a side note the trans is very easy to pull and you do not need to remove the subframe.

Wow, sounds like a bad design that's not readily servicable for something as simple as a little seal. DIY hell!:evil:
I wonder if Toyota would tend to replace the whole tranny vs. keeping a tech down for 7 hours changing a seal.
Kinda glad I got the auto though I originally really wanted the stick.....

[alch3miss]

24k miles strong.. and clutch feels grreat.

[donchae]

Just curious but do any of you have problems when shifting to reverse? Sometimes I get a weird noise when shifting to reverse and sometimes it's harder than other times even though the clutch is pressed all the way. Any inputs?

just got my 2007 yaris sedan about a week now, and i noticed the same thing.. i thought that there might be something wrong with the clutch/tranny.. hmm but it seems like almost everyone's experiencing it.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Has anyone tried adjusting their clutch peddle freeplay and through?

[vwtech]

just got my 2007 yaris sedan about a week now, and i noticed the same thing.. i thought that there might be something wrong with the clutch/tranny.. hmm but it seems like almost everyone's experiencing it.
mine does the same thing shift into another gear before going into reverse and it will shift in fine.

[kou]

Has anyone tried adjusting their clutch peddle freeplay and through?

Yes i did adjust the pedal a little,i have very little play in the pedal now i did it because i wanted the clutch to engage sooner, it helps.I also relocated the switch behind the clutch.Now i can press it with my finger instead of having to slam the clutch to the floor on startup.

[Thirty-Nine]

what were the terms of getting it replaced under warranty?

Not sure I follow.

I brought it in because the clutch was chattering quite badly. They said it needed to replaced and it would be covered under warranty. I asked if I could pay the difference between the OEM clutch and the TRD unit, and they said OK. :cool:

[sleey0]

^^


Good to know and THANKS!

[yaris2010RS]

Not sure I follow.

I brought it in because the clutch was chattering quite badly. They said it needed to replaced and it would be covered under warranty. I asked if I could pay the difference between the OEM clutch and the TRD unit, and they said OK. :cool:

oh it was chattering. lol, i wasnt sure if u wore it out and got it done under warranty.

[Dorkinheimer]

Every manual car I owned, was hard to put in reverse. All you have to do is "advance" an inch and then put it into reverse, then it's goes in easily.

[djct_watt]

Every manual car I owned, was hard to put in reverse. All you have to do is "advance" an inch and then put it into reverse, then it's goes in easily.

That's what she said.

[Bluevitz-rs]

:tweetz:That's what she said.

[sleey0]

What is clutch chatter?

And is it normal for the clutch to not disengage the engine at high speeds?

For ex I will be doing 70 in 5th gear. When I put it into neutral that cars is still revving until about 60mph when thne it drops into a neutral gear normal low rpm.

I assumed it has something to do with DFCO.

Clear with my desctiption?

[soldiersvejk]

Just curious but do any of you have problems when shifting to reverse? Sometimes I get a weird noise when shifting to reverse and sometimes it's harder than other times even though the clutch is pressed all the way. Any inputs?

Please see this video:
"Manual Transmission: Avoid Reverse Gear Grind"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN5fgRFTqys

The reason is simple: the reverse gear does not has a synchronizer. Therefore, you can simply put it in the 1st gear to synchronize, then shift into the reverse gear. I have tried this trick, and it works!

[ern-diz]

Please see this video:
"Manual Transmission: Avoid Reverse Gear Grind"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN5fgRFTqys

The reason is simple: the reverse gear does not has a synchronizer. Therefore, you can simply put it in the 1st gear to synchronize, then shift into the reverse gear. I have tried this trick, and it works!

Any gear other than 2nd will do the trick, right?