How Much is Too Much?

[chrisj]

I know it depends on everyone's preference, but I think having some constraint when modding the exterior is in order for several reasons. My first thought are a-holes who just wanna mess up something else someone has. My second thought is cops. While I want my car to be "somewhat" unique, I don't want it to have a target on its back either.

I got a wing, window tint, a few new emblems, new wheels, Vent Visors, and am getting some fogs. It's still a black Yaris, and while it does look good and gets looks from people, it's not SO different that it becomes a nuisance...for me.

I looked at wraps, graphics, body kits, and other wild stuff for my car, and while I could afford to say "do it", I decided not to, because of safety factors in snow country where I live and those reasons mentioned above.

As far as graphics go, I think of those on the car like the tats on my arms. If I get a scratch or gash, that's gonna f*ck up my tats, man! Something else to worry about. (No, I would not be as concerned about my arm falling off or anything).

I guess it all depends also on where you live. I live in a small town, and there are no other Yari's that look like mine, even like it is now. Maybe in larger towns you could blend in a bit more, and while I know it ain't "cool" to blend in, I also don't want to have yet another thing on my mind...my car.

[.Kevin.]

I was going to put graphics on my car but for the same reason about cops i didn't. I added pin striping though.

If cops see someone heavily tattooed they stare like you're a killer, same thing with a spiffed up car even if it is 4 cylinder.

[chrisj]

Yeah, I know about the tattoo thing. Profiling!

[fnkngrv]

It really all depends on where you live on how much standing out will cause strife as well as driving style. When you start a thread like this it opens a huge can of worms because each person's interpretations and tastes dictates what they do. You do raise valid points, but you have to decide how much you wanna 'fight the system" right?
I have green LED turn signals on my rears for example. I ran them for a few months. I did research and actually printed off the DOT regulations on Turn Signals and when I was pulled over I whipped out the paperwork. I was stopped probably in the vicinity of a dozen times, but no tickets as federal trumps state EVERY time. I have had some of the guys in other states tell me "oh you WILL be ticketed in our state if you have those". They can try and ticket me all they want, but once again the bottom line is it will get revoked. Do I still have them in? No, I picked up red ones as well. I will keep the green for shows or meets. They are a 2 minute swap. Did I remove them because the 5-0 decided to mess with me? Nope, it was a personal choice as I wasn't feelin how they really looked and presented during the day. To me they were not safe enough due to the reflector housing in the assembly. That is one thing that must be there for turn signals...reflectors in order for them to pass DOT. Could I have blacked out the reflector and would the bulbs show up much better during the day? Yes, but that would have impacted the ability for them to illuminate properly during the night hours and possibly during in-climate weather not to mention the illegal nature of breaking DOT laws. Were there a-holes that wanted to put in their two cents with negativity rather than constructive criticism? Oh yeah, but hey, the rest of us wouldn't look as good without those a-holes right?
So this is a shining example I would think of what exactly you are referencing. The bottom line is that I will design my car the way I like. Getting to the point of drawing attention for other things to yourself all depends on your driving style and presence as stated above. If you abide the laws and local regulations then for the most part you should be good. The idea that the authorities know your car easy can be a good thing as well. My car is known by the local PD and the PDs of the neighboring towns/cities. An example of this being a good thing was about 3 weeks ago. I let a friend borrow my car to go to a 24 hr store for some drinks and snacks. One of the local PD guys saw that I wasn't driving the car and reached out to me to make sure that my car wasn't stolen. I know this may not and probably is not the way it is for others and especially in bigger cities or metroplex areas, but for me it works.
There is a difference between going over the top and tasteful. If someone is so concerned and inclined to worry about it then they have the forums to ask for other peeps for IMHO replies right? You will get good feedback and then the a-holes, but you have to be prepared for those that are mature enough to be constructive and those that are either immature or online degenerates that have nothing better to do with their life than piss on someone's parade. :iono: I ensure that I let the right people know when the degenerates show up and it is taken care of...do things the right way, to include modifying your ride and good things will happen that will always outshine any bad. Carma is the mother of all. :respekt:

[chrisj]

I guess I want a happy medium between fighting the system and having the system leave me alone. :)

[Black Yaris]

ricers

[JumpmanYaris]

^LOL, Ricers huh! like you never had any wheels, tints or anything like that in your car:rolleyes:

[.Kevin.]

He's trollin' cause he has a jewfro irl.

[fnkngrv]

ricers


:rolleyes: :cool: Come on Joe...really?

[fnkngrv]

mr. pink wheels :biggrin:
jk jk iz all goodz

:bellyroll::bellyroll::laughabove::laughabove:

[severous01]

ya...i got the fifth degree the other day for the same comment...

any way,

[why?]

I guess I want a happy medium between fighting the system and having the system leave me alone. :)

it is better to know the system than anything else. The more police officers you know personally,and that like you, the better.

[chrisj]

it is better to know the system than anything else. The more police officers you know personally,and that like you, the better.

You just can't go out of town much. :thumbsup:

[fnkngrv]

You just can't go out of town much. :thumbsup:


Sure you can, you just have to drive smart like I said. If a cop wants to pull you over you have to make sure all of your stuff is in order. If you are straight then other than a possibly inconvenience rarely whats the big deal right?

[chrisj]

We had a road check the other night, out of the blue. I have my skull license plate frame with the red LED eyes that I had toyed with hooking up to the license plate light, taking the stock one out. I didn't do it because the plate wouldn't be illuminated, and the other night I was certainly glad I didn't do that. (They're going to be hooked up to the brake lights soon).

[Black Yaris]

^LOL, Ricers huh! like you never had any wheels, tints or anything like that in your car:rolleyes:
I tint all my cars, as well as wheels. I have never slapped a bunch of vinyl on my car, not have I owned "altezza" tail lights.... or owned matching NOS seat covers and steering wheel cover.

He's trollin' cause he has a jewfro irl.
Ich bin keine Jude! Essen mein Schwanz

:rolleyes: :cool: Come on Joe...really?
Hellz yeah

mr. pink wheels :biggrin:
jk jk iz all goodz
Hot pink wheelz are straight JDM, yo

[fnkngrv]

I tint all my cars, as well as wheels. I have never slapped a bunch of vinyl on my car, not have I owned "altezza" tail lights.... or owned matching NOS seat covers and steering wheel cover.



These are all cheesy in most opinions...but other stuff is tasteful and kick ass...




oh and you forgot the 20 dollar eBay 4" fart can BTW :thumbsup:

[Black Yaris]

the wheels in my sig are actually gone.... I just pick of a set of Avenue 601 wheels in 18's so I still have a decent ride... And the Rav is tinted all the way around 35% on the entire windshield and 15% the rest of the way around, tinted tails and I painted the bezels in the headlights black and tinted turns signals. All black on black.... The Tick

[why?]

We had a road check the other night, out of the blue. I have my skull license plate frame with the red LED eyes that I had toyed with hooking up to the license plate light, taking the stock one out. I didn't do it because the plate wouldn't be illuminated, and the other night I was certainly glad I didn't do that. (They're going to be hooked up to the brake lights soon).

a road check, in the middle of nowhere? What's up with that? it says you live in kentucky, not some communist dictatorship.

[chrisj]

Everywhere here is the middle of nowhere! lol! I just think the cops had nothing better to do that night...than harass people.

[yaris2010RS]

every other thursday night (oddly enough in my entire life i have only seen 3 or 4 ride checks take place on either a friday, saturday or sunday) i drive through a ride check on the same strip of road on my way home from work. and it is in the middle of nowhere. i work in an industrial area which is surrounded by major city cores. i live on the opposite outskirts of one of those cities (for anyone who knows the Ontario GTA area, i work in the Toronto Airport Area (rexdale) and live in the outskirts of brampton between brampton and caledon) and i have never seen a ride check in a populated area.

[fnkngrv]

We had a road check the other night, out of the blue. I have my skull license plate frame with the red LED eyes that I had toyed with hooking up to the license plate light, taking the stock one out. I didn't do it because the plate wouldn't be illuminated, and the other night I was certainly glad I didn't do that. (They're going to be hooked up to the brake lights soon).

that is part of what I was talking about having your stuff together...there isn't a federal law regarding license plate frame lighting therefore it falls on your state statutes. If you state says no then you can't. Since you didn't they couldn't give you a ticket. Hell, many times they might harass just cause they want to check out your ride without admitting it...lol

[47_MasoN_47]

Ich bin keine Jude! Essen mein Schwanz\

LOL I'm really tempted to put that in my sigline.

[why?]

every other thursday night (oddly enough in my entire life i have only seen 3 or 4 ride checks take place on either a friday, saturday or sunday) i drive through a ride check on the same strip of road on my way home from work. and it is in the middle of nowhere. i work in an industrial area which is surrounded by major city cores. i live on the opposite outskirts of one of those cities (for anyone who knows the Ontario GTA area, i work in the Toronto Airport Area (rexdale) and live in the outskirts of brampton between brampton and caledon) and i have never seen a ride check in a populated area.

Everywhere here is the middle of nowhere! lol! I just think the cops had nothing better to do that night...than harass people.

That is crazy! I've never actually been through a road check, which is a good thing. Although I remember one time when I was drinking with a bunch of friends on a beach, i told a cop who asked us what we were doing,"we are having fun, we aren't doing anything illegal." And the cop drove away. i think it was some sort of jedi mind trick. You should have seen the looks on my friends faces, they were all scared to death.

[Randa]

That's what she said.

[chrisj]

Good lord. I have been through dozens of road checks in my time. Maybe because lots of people drink and do drugs around here? I don't know. Excuse me while I take a sip. ;)

[yaris2010RS]

Good lord. I have been through dozens of road checks in my time. Maybe because lots of people drink and do drugs around here? I don't know. Excuse me while I take a sip. ;)

bob marly FTW

[KCALB SIRAY]

a road check, in the middle of nowhere? What's up with that? it says you live in kentucky, not some communist dictatorship.

Everywhere here is the middle of nowhere! lol! I just think the cops had nothing better to do that night...than harass people.

every other thursday night (oddly enough in my entire life i have only seen 3 or 4 ride checks take place on either a friday, saturday or sunday) i drive through a ride check on the same strip of road on my way home from work. and it is in the middle of nowhere. i work in an industrial area which is surrounded by major city cores. i live on the opposite outskirts of one of those cities (for anyone who knows the Ontario GTA area, i work in the Toronto Airport Area (rexdale) and live in the outskirts of brampton between brampton and caledon) and i have never seen a ride check in a populated area.

Road checks save lives, period. They help you and everyone else on the road, period. No disrespect guys, but you can't always think negative when it comes to these things and law enforcement. It's their job and the majority of them do it well. It's always the blame game when it comes to tickets and speeding. Yes, there a lot of new and old uniformed that have chips on their shoulders and their day will come and most likely already has and that is why they are 60 and still in a cruiser. Believe me, I know many of them that are in this position :laugh:

All in all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. You're the duck, and they are the water.

[KCALB SIRAY]

....I need a beer already, is that wrong? hehe

[yaris2010RS]

Road checks save lives, period. They help you and everyone else on the road, period. No disrespect guys, but you can't always think negative when it comes to these things and law enforcement. It's their job and the majority of them do it well. It's always the blame game when it comes to tickets and speeding. Yes, there a lot of new and old uniformed that have chips on their shoulders and their day will come and most likely already has and that is why they are 60 and still in a cruiser. Believe me, I know many of them that are in this position :laugh:

All in all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. You're the duck, and they are the water.

hold up, where did i say anything negative about it? i completly agree with ride checks. all the ones i have encountered i feel have been in bad locations to catch dangerous ppl.

i personally like seeing cops on the road, makes me feel comfortable and everytime i have been pulled over i have deserved it. lol

[fnkngrv]

All in all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. You're the duck, and they are the water.

Kind of a good analogy however does that mean they could ticket me for pooping in the pond cause that means I would be pooping on their back? Or would it be their belly? Oh NM, Thanks Mike! Now I need a drink!

:drinking:

[KCALB SIRAY]

yaris2010RS
yeah I hit the wrong button on the puter, lol, it deleted your portion. I was saying that I agreed with your points and added that I live in a heavily populated area (fastest growing county in the nation, yay for traffic)

[chrisj]

Well, everything and anything I do to my car, I have to be aware that I WILL be stopped by the cops at some point...if only in a road check. The license plate frame is a perfect example of a needless ass kicking I would get, knowing full well that I shouldn't do it. So, I preemptively didn't do it that way, and decided to rig it up to the brake lights. I see no need in ASKING for trouble, and if you think you're gonna do a U-ey and avoid one of those checks, then you're already guilty of SOMETHING! lol!

[fnkngrv]

^ well nothing for nothing, but with the age you are at I would think that would possibly buffer you from getting a ticket anyway. Sometimes age has its privileges, that and boobs...lol

[chrisj]

^ well nothing for nothing, but with the age you are at I would think that would possibly buffer you from getting a ticket anyway. Sometimes age has its privileges, that and boobs...lol

Hey! Double win for me! I have both! :laugh:

I suppose I could always say it was my son's car (and the things these kids are doing to their cars these days...!), point out the disabled tag on the back of the car, and then explain that I am also a veteran. Hell, I could probably have a Florida's worth of dope in the car and drive away!

[why?]

Road checks save lives, period. They help you and everyone else on the road, period. No disrespect guys, but you can't always think negative when it comes to these things and law enforcement. It's their job and the majority of them do it well. It's always the blame game when it comes to tickets and speeding. Yes, there a lot of new and old uniformed that have chips on their shoulders and their day will come and most likely already has and that is why they are 60 and still in a cruiser. Believe me, I know many of them that are in this position :laugh:

All in all, if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about. You're the duck, and they are the water.

stopping everyone on the road does nothing but waste everyone's time. It is just that simple.

And that if you have done nothing wrong line is bs. We don't live in a communist country, and by stopping everyone, they are assuming everyone had done something wrong.

Which is absurd. There is a reason you don't see road blocks everywhere, and that is because they don't do anything but annoy the heck out of people.

Trust me, if they worked, all law enforcement would use them, the reason they are nonexistent almost everywhere just goes to show you they are a waste of time.

Especially a road block in the same place. How will that stop anyone doing anything? They will just avoid it. wow, that is so hard.

So stop assuming everyone that says anything is placing blame, or hates the cops, or any of that garbage that you are assuming.

People can have opinions on things without someone like you coming in and saying crap like that.

[TickleTimeTim]

when i started adding stuff to my car, i noticed more bad looks then good as well. Not to mention someone stealing my tow hook while i was in class one day. but in the end, i'd rather have the mods, then not.

[KCALB SIRAY]

stopping everyone on the road does nothing but waste everyone's time. It is just that simple.

And that if you have done nothing wrong line is bs. We don't live in a communist country, and by stopping everyone, they are assuming everyone had done something wrong.

Which is absurd. There is a reason you don't see road blocks everywhere, and that is because they don't do anything but annoy the heck out of people.

Trust me, if they worked, all law enforcement would use them, the reason they are nonexistent almost everywhere just goes to show you they are a waste of time.

Especially a road block in the same place. How will that stop anyone doing anything? They will just avoid it. wow, that is so hard.

So stop assuming everyone that says anything is placing blame, or hates the cops, or any of that garbage that you are assuming.
People can have opinions on things without someone like you coming in and saying crap like that.

~Obviously not everyone is subject to a check point, which is more than likely a sobriety check point or in conjunction with law enforcement relating to such issues as Amber Alerts or a wanted person of interest.

~The reason you don't see them everywhere is that not all states participate in SCP's. It has been ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court

~Check your words carefully before responding to a post. My statements were clearly defined and directed to a response from the OP and others without hostility. No assumptions were made in my response, I can only offer fact based knowledge from my own involvement with law enforcement as well as fact based, scientifically–sound studies, resulting in accurate results from the CDC. Decreasing alcohol related deaths and injuries by 20 percent or more each year from SCP's is all well and good in MY book. Increasing the arrest rate of individuals that obtain/carry/have/are etc. illegal firearms, drugs, warrants, pedophiles...and the list goes on, is a wonderful thing.

All I can say is that check points in general offer a great deal to our community.

[why?]

~Obviously not everyone is subject to a check point, which is more than likely a sobriety check point or in conjunction with law enforcement relating to such issues as Amber Alerts or a wanted person of interest.

~The reason you don't see them everywhere is that not all states participate in SCP's. It has been ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court

~Check your words carefully before responding to a post. My statements were clearly defined and directed to a response from the OP and others without hostility. No assumptions were made in my response, I can only offer fact based knowledge from my own involvement with law enforcement as well as fact based, scientifically–sound studies, resulting in accurate results from the CDC. Decreasing alcohol related deaths and injuries by 20 percent or more each year from SCP's is all well and good in MY book. Increasing the arrest rate of individuals that obtain/carry/have/are etc. illegal firearms, drugs, warrants, pedophiles...and the list goes on, is a wonderful thing.

All I can say is that check points in general offer a great deal to our community.

and you offer nothing but your words to say so. If there are statistics and studies, link to them.

I simply think they are a waste of time.


No disrespect guys, but you can't always think negative when it comes to these things and law enforcement.

You said that. I'm sick of everyone saying that because you comment on a law, or what law enforcement does, you are against cops. it is absurd. We are on a forum, we can have opinions on everything, even what police do, without meaning we hate or are negative about what we are opining on.

[chrisj]

I have no problems with the road checks. I have kids on the road, and if one road check will get one moron off the road, then it has done a good. If you're doing the right thing you've got nothing to worry about anyway.