2011 The Year of the Turbo?

[fnkngrv]

So I am watching Drive - Auto Shows 2010


I cannot recall all the cars that will be coming out for 2k11 that are sporting turbo engines. I cannot recall in my driving live (since 1990) that I have seen so many turbo offerings...unless mistaken one of them is the Hyundai Sonata 274HP version running 17.4lbs of boost! Oh yeah, a lot of them are slated for mid 30s for the mpg to boot. I think that is pretty cool however it appears the bulk of them will be automatics with no offerings for stick :thumbdown:


Thoughts?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I think it's awesome how they're offering boosted cars now (probably will require premium gas tho). Stick shift is a must tho.

[why?]

Turbos come in phases from manufacturers. The last time we had a ton of them was the mid '80's, some incredible cars back then. They can help gas mileage if you lay off the power, but with a heavy foot of course gas mileage is terrible. Too bad on not enough manuals though, but americans just don't seem to want them, and right now manufacturers, even Ferrari, think autos are better.

[silver_echo]

I think it's awesome how they're offering boosted cars now (probably will require premium gas tho). Stick shift is a must tho.

forced induction usually requires premium fuel, to prevent detonation...
while the engine can survive with regular gas, for short stints, prolonged usage of regular fuel can cause issues with premature detonation...

[BluYrs]

Seems to me the goal is to increase the MPG-figure on the sticker while keeping similar power ratings. In reality though, smaller engines (as the boosted ones tend to be) need to be worked harder to engage the booster, so sticker figures will remain just that with real-life mileage proving much lower.

We can see the same trend in Europe, where compact cars such as the Golf are offered with 1,2-litre compressor-fed engines, which offer more power and torque than regular 1,4 or 1,6 engines.

[fnkngrv]

Seems to me the goal is to increase the MPG-figure on the sticker while keeping similar power ratings. In reality though, smaller engines (as the boosted ones tend to be) need to be worked harder to engage the booster, so sticker figures will remain just that with real-life mileage proving much lower.

We can see the same trend in Europe, where compact cars such as the Golf are offered with 1,2-litre compressor-fed engines, which offer more power and torque than regular 1,4 or 1,6 engines.


I am just floored that Hyundai is offering the Sonata with a 274HP Turbo I-4 that they are trying to say will get 35/36 HWY. The stated 23 city. If you boosted our motor to 274HP I would doubt you could still claim 35 HWY.

[why?]

Seems to me the goal is to increase the MPG-figure on the sticker while keeping similar power ratings. In reality though, smaller engines (as the boosted ones tend to be) need to be worked harder to engage the booster, so sticker figures will remain just that with real-life mileage proving much lower.

We can see the same trend in Europe, where compact cars such as the Golf are offered with 1,2-litre compressor-fed engines, which offer more power and torque than regular 1,4 or 1,6 engines.

In Europe though the goals are a little different, especially with many european countries levying car taxes based on the engine's displacement.