Ok, next best turbo besides garrett

[sleey0]

HKS? Greddy?

Don't say TIAL as those are way out of my price range (and some HKS too).

I am not thrilled having the IC pipe welded to the compressor outlet on the Garrett.

Any suggestions?

[jonismyname]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37121&stc=1&d=1285725275
^you don't have to weld.

you're going a mile a minute with this stuff fella

[yarisugi]

suggestion: instead of starting new threads just for the sake having of someone to answer your questions, you should continue your own thread you started earlier.

^ there you go, the perfect flange to match your compressor outlet from the previous thread.

Search tool can also provide lots of answers.

[Nexus1155]

Not trying to be a dick or offend you in any way, but you are terribly spamming this section. If you just made 1 thread like "Sleey's Turbo Build" and ask all of your questions in there, I am sure they will be looked over and answered by everyone.

Can an admin please come in and consolidate all of the threads he made into something relateable?

Other than that. People have been using the ebay chinese turbos. Both recent builds have used them and have had great success so far. And yes, no welding should be done directly to the turbo at all in mostly every case.


Ahhhhh yarisugi beat me to it.

[sleey0]

I am sory fellas.

I won't post here any more.

I will just talk with the ppl who actual don't mind helping me.

FWIW, these 2 threads are completely different. 1 thread was about the garrett and this is about a turbo quality comparison.

Peace,
Wes

[sleey0]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37121&stc=1&d=1285725275
^you don't have to weld.

you're going a mile a minute with this stuff fella

You see, that was helpful and thank you for that.

I just wanted to know why HKS turbos cost more than garrett, which are supposed to be the best.:iono:

[jonismyname]

i don't spend enough time on here to care, but it would behoove you to be considerate of the layout of the forum. lots of people here to help you, but you need to help yourself too, and play by internet rules. a single thread would be in your best interest, especially for reference sake. and any help i've offered was via google. i too am interested in forced induction for my little yaris... and find i learn lots more watching than i do asking.

[Nexus1155]

No thats not the issue, because now you are being stubborn. Alot of us are here to help you but cannot do so if we keep having to jump between 10 threads it boggles minds having to keep track of whats newly posted. Makes sense? You will see that more people are willing to help if you are more considerate of forum rules.

You have multiple threads that could be merged into one thread about you building your turbo kit. "Sprak Plug Gap" "Downpipes for dummies" and especially "Turbo Clearance" "Question about turbos" "GT2554R" "Ok, next best turbo besides garrett" Those last 4 are essentially the same thing..

edit: WTF why do people keep beating me on my posts, I must be typing too slow

[sleey0]

I am a complete n00b so google doesn't always help.

Like I said, I am sticking to the folks I know here from now on.

If I must post something I will. But not much anymore unless anyone wants to watch my turbo build;)

Mod merge or close

[jonismyname]

i had to google behoove. you had plenty of time to jump in there

[jonismyname]

I am a complete n00b so google doesn't always help.

Like I said, I am sticking to the folks I know here from now on.

If I must post something I will. But not much anymore unless anyone wants to watch my turbo build;)

Mod merge or close

your enthusiasm is appreciated and an asset to the community. it would just do better condensed.

[sleey0]

Fuck it and peace.....

If you see a thread and don't want to respond, then move along.

Yes I should habe posted maybe 2 threads instead of 4. But is the world falling apart?

I apologize and have seen MUCH worse around here.

Anyway, carlos, aras, and garm will be my go to guys from now on.

So back to your "1 post per subject rule" ok?

[sleey0]

Oh, and I an neurotic when it comes to this shit.

So bear with me will ya?

/thread

[sleey0]

your enthusiasm is appreciated and an asset to the community. it would just do better condensed.

Thank you. IF there is any ? I can help u with let me know.

Just don't post more than 1 thread:biggrin:

Problem is my build is a few months off. Dec/Jan will be my start. Maybe sooner. So what do I do until then? Not post?

[Nexus1155]

Oh and to answer your question/questions, your best bet for a good reliable turbo is a used one from a good working car if you do not want to purchase new. a kit that was made used a DSM 14b turbo, or in my case I will try to be using the turbo from a Nissan SR20DET engine or a CA18DET engine preferably, both GT25, small for quick spool! These can be had for around $100~$200 and may need a $50 rebuild kit to make it good as new. How can you go wrong huh?

[33OH]

MicroImageOnline.com

[jonismyname]

Fuck it and peace.....

If you see a thread and don't want to respond, then move along.

Yes I should habe posted maybe 2 threads instead of 4. But is the world falling apart?

I apologize and have seen MUCH worse around here.

Anyway, carlos, aras, and garm will be my go to guys from now on.

So back to your "1 post per subject rule" ok

^fixed it for ya there

in the meantime, i would read and post. theres a silly amount of information about what aught just be a cheap commuter car on this site. we have folks wringing it out for economy and decorating it with crazy paint jobs and driving way too fast and making silly power and plowing their driveways with these things. if you want to learn about it, read about it, and contribute what you can when you can. if you intend to undertake what is still a very daunting and little explored world of turbo chargers (to some of us) it would be best for you and the community to condense it in a single location. then i would have three recent turbo builds to read start to stop easily. that was a fair suggestion. we like information organized... otherwise stuff gets lost.

the internet gives us a chance to think about what we say before we say it, and look before we ask, something we don't get to do in real life. take advantage of it.

[33OH]

Yeah, quit posting threads on a forum. It's ridiculous.

[sleey0]

Yeah, quit posting threads on a forum. It's ridiculous.

I know.

Insane, huh?

Posting a few threads on a forum.

The sad part is that you don't have to reply. That's the beauty of it.

Don't like a thread? Then move along.

And thanks, Ryan:D

[Yoda]

lol can i say i saw this comming first LMAO. Did you look up that book i told you about? It can answer most if not all your questions.

[Nexus1155]

Hope you read what I said about the GT25, its alot more affordable to do that than to drop $1200 on a Garrett turbo. I dunn about you, but not everyone has loads of cash to spend. I know I don't, and I would still like something reliable

[xbgod]

Yo bro, we know being new with this turbo stuff can be confusing. I understand everyones grief and belive me bro I don't think anyone here is really saying they don't want to hear from you they just want it all in one place to help you. I know lots of questions when doing this It's just hard to answer them all when their in constant new threads. No harm no foul. We all learn from doing, consider this one of those experiences.

And HKS is more because it's out of Japan and considered JDM. It has to be imported.

Your also paying for some name recognition.

Garrett still kicks it's ass...."American Made" and used by far more applications than HKS will ever be used for.

XBG

[Bluevitz-rs]

^ there, god has spoken. LOL

Also consider that when you make a new thread, one has to look on the forum to find the new thread as were when you keep it all in the same post, we get automatic email updates and can respond to it more quickly.

[sleey0]

Gentlemen. I get it.

I already said I won't post multiple questions and start new threads.

When the time comes closer, I will start my own "sleey0 Turbo Build" thread.

And xb, you sir have been awesome. Some ppl are telling me to buy a $200 turbo.

I don't know bout you but I would rather save for a Garrett. But to each his own!

[sleey0]

Oh and to answer your question/questions, your best bet for a good reliable turbo is a used one from a good working car if you do not want to purchase new. a kit that was made used a DSM 14b turbo, or in my case I will try to be using the turbo from a Nissan SR20DET engine or a CA18DET engine preferably, both GT25, small for quick spool! These can be had for around $100~$200 and may need a $50 rebuild kit to make it good as new. How can you go wrong huh?

Yeah, I am findning new and used SR20DET turbos but not for $200. lol

I really don't mind spending the extra on the turbo.

It is the HEART of your system.

What happens if your used SR20DET blows or breaks down? I can't have that as my project is also my DD.

I can see buying cheao IC piping, etc. but the turbo I want factory fresh from Garrett.

To each his own, brother.

[xbgod]

you pay for what you get. Like I've said," if you need to, save up a little more" these are the only three turbos I'd even consider: Garrett, Precision or Turbonetics. All three are good quality and best bang for the buck and are made right here. No JDM hype and extra money to pay for that JDM sterotype.

Greddy dosen't even make their own turbos. They're all made by mitsubishi then Greddy does their thing to them.

you buy what makes you happy and what serves you. However I would never buy a 200.00 stock or Ebay turbo. Thats just me so don't go getting crazy with the we all don't have money to burn.

And real bottom line is if you don't have the extra to play with the right way, then you shouldn't be moding, Cause you won't be able to fix it when it brakes.

XBG

[sleey0]

And real bottom line is if you don't have the extra to play with the right way, then you shouldn't be moding, Cause you won't be able to fix it when it brakes.

XBG

My reasoning EXACTLY!

Is something goes wrong on xbgods car than no biggie, Fix it in his shop/driveway and be finished.

Something happens to mine, well I am screwed.

That is why I am going to get the best within my budget. If I have to wait a lttle, than so be it!

[sleey0]

The Turbonetics look sweet!

Check this one....

[cali yaris]

^ and big, I have that on my tC (2.4L)

[Nexus1155]

you pay for what you get. Like I've said," if you need to, save up a little more" these are the only three turbos I'd even consider: Garrett, Precision or Turbonetics

IIRC those other two companies are companies that were made by workers who branches off from Garrett.

S13 Black top - Came from 180sx's post 94 (Garrett T25G turbo)
S13 Red top - Came from S13 Silvia and 180sx pre 94 (Garrett T25G turbo)

Used or new turbo, it will be the same thing. Journal vs. ball bearing in an application like this is negligible. It is a mechanical object. Both the new and used turbo internals will both be spinning at crazy speeds. As long as the internals are in good shape and not crazy amounts of shaft play you are good to go. All turbos come with atleast slight shaft play regardless if its fresh out of the box until some oil gets running through.

[why?]

you pay for what you get. Like I've said," if you need to, save up a little more" these are the only three turbos I'd even consider: Garrett, Precision or Turbonetics. All three are good quality and best bang for the buck and are made right here. No JDM hype and extra money to pay for that JDM sterotype.

Greddy dosen't even make their own turbos. They're all made by mitsubishi then Greddy does their thing to them.

you buy what makes you happy and what serves you. However I would never buy a 200.00 stock or Ebay turbo. Thats just me so don't go getting crazy with the we all don't have money to burn.

And real bottom line is if you don't have the extra to play with the right way, then you shouldn't be moding, Cause you won't be able to fix it when it brakes.

XBG

Yup, never trust mitsubishi turbos, they must absolutely stink. I mean they've only been turbocharging vehicles longer than most people on this forum have been alive. And it isn't like other manufacturers buy turbos from mistubishi directly to use on their cars either...

[sleey0]

Yup, never trust mitsubishi turbos, they must absolutely stink. I mean they've only been turbocharging vehicles longer than most people on this forum have been alive. And it isn't like other manufacturers buy turbos from mistubishi directly to use on their cars either...

Sarcasm, I hope?

Cuz Greddy (mitsu) turbos are pretty good. There are better options but they
are decent turbos.

[xnamerxx]

What are you looking for? Mitsu turbos are good so are the KKK turbos. How many vw/audi/porshe with a turbo failure. Garrett turbos seem to be more widely used because they were adopted by the aftermarket which means the flange style used is more common.

[sleey0]

Zage copied the mits 15G so I hope it aint too bad lol....

[xbgod]

XNamerxx is right. The racing aftermarket needed a turbo that would be commonly used and interchangeable. Garrett just happen to be that turbo.

XBG