Can I Change to a 5-Lug??

[revolution]

Hi Everyone,

I live in Malawi and it is very difficult to get anything in the way of decent Alloys here in a size above 15"...

I would like to fit a set of 17" Alloys on my Vitz, but can only source 5-Lug types here in that size...

Is there a way to change to 5-lug? Would I maybe have to change my rear drums and front discs to that of maybe the New Corolla (which is a 5-lug) to then make it fit?

Sorry if this offends anyone but out here we pretty much have to modify everything and anything because there are no tuning places or accessory stores......

[markitect]

If you guys have the Scion XD it's probably your best source for parts, because a lot of it is the same as the Yaris. I'm not sure how much you'll need to swap though.

[MUSKOKA800]

Contact TireRack. They'll get the correct 4x100 stuff to you. Shipping charges should be less than converting your car to another spec.

[big lo]

Out in PR a lot of the Yaris vehicles are doing just that and using RAV4 rims looks cool, go for it

[revolution]

Theres no TireRack in Malawi, LOL its in the middle of Africa and no such thing as a Scion here...!
Big lo, any idea how they change to 5-lug?

[why?]

they make things to do that, grr I can't remember what it is called. But on some cars swapping to different lug patterns is common, maybe if you search around on the net you'll get lucky and find something.

[Black Yaris]

You would need hubs from a Toyota Ist

[ddongbap]

they make things to do that, grr I can't remember what it is called. But on some cars swapping to different lug patterns is common, maybe if you search around on the net you'll get lucky and find something.

HOnda used to make 4lug and 5lug versions of the same car.

[cdydjded]

Yes you can, you would have to source the hubs, rotor, caliper & bracket from a Toyota car that came 5 lug. Hey Big lo, find out for us from someone there in P.R. Iv seen it done, just dont know what car the got the parts from...

[Black Yaris]

Yes you can, you would have to source the hubs, rotor, caliper & bracket from a Toyota car that came 5 lug. Hey Big lo, find out for us from someone there in P.R. Iv seen it done, just dont know what car the got the parts from...

Toyota Ist (aka Scion xD)

[revolution]

Seems like the Toyota Ist is a 4-Lug as well.....

[CTScott]

The right way to do it would be to change the hubs, but the easy way to do it would be with wheel spacers that are also 4 lug to 5 lug adapters:

http://image.made-in-china.com/4f0j00UemTnbjlnucf/Wheel-Adapter-SZ-0003-.jpg

http://shop.adapterkings.com/4-Lug-to-5-Lug-Adapter-4-Lug-to-5-Lug.htm

[revolution]

CTScott... Thanks for that!
I have been searching online as well, seems like most of these kinds of adapters are like 2 inches thick... surely that will push my wheels out like a tank! LOL will contact Adapterkings and see if i can get something to work... ;)

[CTScott]

CTScott... Thanks for that!
I have been searching online as well, seems like most of these kinds of adapters are like 2 inches thick... surely that will push my wheels out like a tank! LOL will contact Adapterkings and see if i can get something to work... ;)

The thinnest ones I've seen are 1" thick. If you are buying new rims, you can compensate for the thickness in the offset of the rim.

[revolution]

Might I be able to skim a bit off the rim to compensate for the thickness of the adapter...?

[CTScott]

Might I be able to skim a bit off the rim to compensate for the thickness of the adapter...?

I don't think so, without compromising the strength of the rim.

[33OH]

As a DIY? Probably not.. If you have any wheel manufacturers around your area you may be able to get them to mess with it. (i.e. we have Diamond Racing Wheels in Wisconsin who will modify wheels.)

[revolution]

I read somewhere that adapters can be found only 8mm thick, would be great if i could find some like that - the other option i am looking at is to change the rear hubs and front rotors to those of the latest corolla as it is now a 5x100pcd........ (?!) Might that be a better option?

[severous01]

you can do some research on that bearing/hub combo. find a hub w 5 lug and press out your hub...i know it's a sealed bearing but it was assembled somehow. you could also buy the bearing since you're going through all the trouble and it's just another step to press in/out the old bearing.

press out the old hub, press in the new hub...no biggie. specially for someone who has to 'modify everything to fit anything'...per se'.

i think that the hubs on a corolla will fit just fine. i'm sure toyota is smart enough to use the same bearing/designs especially if it works...and just change the hubs out.

long story short, i used a chevy truck hub/bearing on my jeep cuz it was 30 bux cheaper. the only difference was the lug size. i pressed out the 6-lug hub and pressed in my old 5-lug hub just fine. and instead of replacing my bearings every 6 months they lasted another 18 and i sold it with them still in there.

[big lo]

Theres no TireRack in Malawi, LOL its in the middle of Africa and no such thing as a Scion here...!
Big lo, any idea how they change to 5-lug?

Sure buddy I'll get the info to you ASAP I have a buddy who did it and is rocking the Rav 4 rims not my taste but a good job at that, from what I know the stock hub is very easy to take off and you need a special rachet to do so, I'll pm you with more info

[revolution]

Went to a Breakers Yard today, and managed to find a new Corolla there... Front end seems OK, and the Toyota Schematics show a similar setup, only problem is the Rear now because the Vitz has Drums at the Rear, but the Corolla has Discs... Grrrr!!!!

[ddongbap]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Scion XD rear trailing arm will fit.

[revolution]

If I go the Corolla Option, what would happen if i transfered the Rear Disc Brakes setup across to the Yaris? Would it just connect to the existing Brake lines? If so, it could be a combo way of getting 5-lug and rear discs! Hmmmm!!??

[cdydjded]

Hi Everyone,

I live in Malawi and it is very difficult to get anything in the way of decent Alloys here in a size above 15"...

I would like to fit a set of 17" Alloys on my Vitz, but can only source 5-Lug types here in that size...

Is there a way to change to 5-lug? Would I maybe have to change my rear drums and front discs to that of maybe the New Corolla (which is a 5-lug) to then make it fit?

Sorry if this offends anyone but out here we pretty much have to modify everything and anything because there are no tuning places or accessory stores......

Go to my website, www.traklitewheels.com, see if you like anything, I have 17' 4 hole wheels.......

[revolution]

If someone could just find me a set of the 17" OEM Yaris TS Wheels it would make my YEAR!!!!!! LOL

[marcus]

i wanted 3 bolts..if its possible less lugs and less weight..lolz...

[33OH]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m748&item=140466312501&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D4849919988011079557

[revolution]

These are the ones I'm looking for....
http://motortorque.askaprice.com/images/features/428-288/New-Toyota-Yaris-SR-1.8-review-14818.jpg

[big lo]

In microimage they sell the rear brake convertion, and those rims look nice

[revolution]

Given up on the 5-lug conversion, after seeing the amount of work required to transplant the Corolla Hubs and Brakes across, just not motivating enough!!!

Still on the hunt for the above Yaris TS 17" Wheels though, ANYBODY have a set of these that they want to sell? Surely some of the TS owners are doing the aftermarket wheel thing??

[33OH]

These are the ones I'm looking for....


I know, we just don't have that version in the US. Was linking the closest thing I could think of and saw they shipped internationally. :redface:

[severous01]

in order to go from drum to disc you need to change out the proportioning valve. if not you'll wear the rears wayyyyyy faster than the fronts. it's set up that way to overcome the springs in the drums so the disc doesnt engage first....no springs, rears will engage first.