back seat removal difference?

[Qmobile]

For all you who have taken the backseat out of the LB is the a real noticeable difference? all I've seen is to take it out you have to take out the rear floor trim is there a way to do it WITHOUT takin the all out? or would'nt look/work right?

[Slick]

I removed just the seat in my 09 LB and left the rear stuff in place. The rear deck thing is firm in its place and doesn't require the rear set to be still. Its just a few bolts and a clip here and there for the bottom cushion and out she comes. I also left the black frame thing in place, but it can be removed as well. Hope this helps :)

[Qmobile]

it helps a lil bit but just to make sure we're talk about the same piece staying on. I'm talking about the thing that goes over the spare tire. have you noticed any difference?

[Freedan]

I'm not sure if you have a 60/40 seat, but I'm planning on taking the 60 seat out. It would look pretty sweet to just have the 40 seat back there.

My plan is to have the three remaining seat (driver, passenger, rear 40) replace with racing seats. I won't be installing racing seats until my little Yaris get either a Turbo or Supercharger installed.

Racing seats in a 100 hp car that gets beaten by soccer moms in their suv just wouldn't seem right. :laugh:

[justjesus]

LT Noogie has the rear 40 in his car. Kinda cool. The rest of it is gutted (stripped) out.

[eTiMaGo]

you can put the spare wheel cover back on afterward, if I recall it is wedged into place by the two plastic bins on each side of the spare. Mind you, that's with the full bench seat, no idea about the 60/40

[Klink10]

I removed my 60/40 awhile back leaving the part that covers the spare (didn't need to remove to take seat out). Even removed the spare but thought better of it. I have the tray that sits on top of the spare cover and fab'd up some brackets to hold it in place or to keep it from sliding forward. Does the car go faster? Dunno, but it's lighter and I don't carry anybody anyway.

[33OH]

I noticed a lot more road noise and awkward, slanted cargo space. So mine are back in now. :)

[Qmobile]

yeah I have the 60/40 in the back. So I can take it out without takin the whole spare tire well assembly out then? And actually Klink that's why I want to do it, it's usually just me in the car. I know I've seen something awhile back on what all I need but to save a lil time what all would I need to do this?

[33OH]

A metric socket set and 30 minutes.

[Klink10]

Q......metric socket set and the star type sockets. If I remember right I picked up those stars at Northern Tool. They come like 6-7 a set in a plastic holder. Just use your ratchet with them. Depending on how clean underneath your car is you might find the ends that protrude thru the floor may be rusted/dirty....get some PB blaster or WD 40 (NAPA) squirt/soak and slowly remove. Gonna need a fair amount of oooommmmph but do it slow so not to snap or strip. I don't think I forgot anything....ifin I did holler back.

[33OH]

Hm.. I don't have the 60/40 but I didn't need any "star sockets." Just a 12mm and a 10mm if I remember correctly. I just did mine a few weeks back to pick up a loveseat in it.

[Klink10]

On mine I did (but now that I think about it those might have been where the seat belts were affixed to the floor). Pic shows bracket(s) I fabbed up to hold board cushioned with BMW floor mats from car I detailed. Until something more permanent. While I'm at it if you'll notice between the seats in the console there is a change holder from a Scion TC that holds my garage/shop door opener perfectly. It fits there real nice. Just in case anybody asks.

[33OH]

Ahh gotcha - I left my seatbelts in. :)

[why?]

I took it all out. The rear of the car sits higher, and i think the car handles a little better.

I hate that uneven rear floor. I wish they made it flat, would have been so much better.

[Klink10]

Me too. Could build something to even it all out and somewhere on the forum someone did. But I think it would defeat the whole purpose of weight savings.

[Qmobile]

Q......metric socket set and the star type sockets. If I remember right I picked up those stars at Northern Tool. They come like 6-7 a set in a plastic holder. Just use your ratchet with them. Depending on how clean underneath your car is you might find the ends that protrude thru the floor may be rusted/dirty....get some PB blaster or WD 40 (NAPA) squirt/soak and slowly remove. Gonna need a fair amount of oooommmmph but do it slow so not to snap or strip. I don't think I forgot anything....ifin I did holler back.

Hm.. I don't have the 60/40 but I didn't need any "star sockets." Just a 12mm and a 10mm if I remember correctly. I just did mine a few weeks back to pick up a loveseat in it.

I mite take a look at the bolts. right now I run with 'em folded flat, it's ok but I'm still kinda up in the air. how uneven is it w/o the seats? where is the uneven part where the seat used to be?

[Slick]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306

Everything you need to know is here :D

Later in the same thread the OP posted the changes that he did to the rear.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=984

[Qmobile]

that's the thread I was looking at before......I think I'll look and see if I can come up with something.....hhmm.....I'm thinking

[MadMax]

I'm still looking for a 60/40 for an 08 LB, if anyone is removing theirs and wants to sell it!

Cheers! M2

[why?]

He did a good job on what he put there instead, but he saved no weight with it at all.
Just to show you exactly how it looks when nothing is in the back.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2511/dscf0803v.jpghttp://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4233/dscf0809p.jpg

[Qmobile]

he also remove all the rear deck/spare tire cover too witch I'm not gonna do. so acaully my setup will look slightly different. But I see where you were goin with those pics. if all that left is just a tad of sheet metal showin, I can live with that....worse comes to worse I can get something to cover it. I just looked and I got star bolts.....actually more like felt to see but yeah

[why?]

those bolts can be a pain. Take your time and make sure you have the right size. I stripped two of mine and had to got to a body shop to have them removed. I even went to a dealership but they couldn't do it.

[frownonfun]

I can't say I noticed a difference with the back seat out but who knows. Actually I noticed that you could hear the gasoline sloshing around in the back and that the road noise and exhaust was way louder in the cabin. I took everything out too. Except the seat belts. Recently put down some padding and carpet though and that cut down on the noise a lot.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8792/img3715d.jpg

[Freedan]

I can't say I noticed a difference with the back seat out but who knows. Actually I noticed that you could hear the gasoline sloshing around in the back and that the road noise and exhaust was way louder in the cabin. I took everything out too. Except the seat belts. Recently put down some padding and carpet though and that cut down on the noise a lot.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8792/img3715d.jpg

Wow, that looks pretty good. :eek:

[Klink10]

I got bad ears.

[why?]

i like hearing all the added road noise, it is just cool. I don't really notice the gas, but then again my radio is always on.

[Yaristeve]

Looks nice. I still haven't picked up mine but has anyone ever thought of removing the back seat(s) and installing a custom lockable box (built with aluminum diamond plate and uphoslstered inside and out)? It would look basically look like a huge speaker box but it would actually be a locking trunk... And before anyone suggests that I just buy the sedan, I don't like four doors. Seems like the rear seats are too small anyway...

[Klink10]

Yaristeve.....I'm sure alot have but most are doing this for weight reduction. Putting anything there would defeat the purpose. I was looking at trying to come up with something using say fiberglass just to flatten things up but I have to many other things going to get into that. So it sits as is for now.

[why?]

Looks nice. I still haven't picked up mine but has anyone ever thought of removing the back seat(s) and installing a custom lockable box (built with aluminum diamond plate and uphoslstered inside and out)? It would look basically look like a huge speaker box but it would actually be a locking trunk... And before anyone suggests that I just buy the sedan, I don't like four doors. Seems like the rear seats are too small anyway...

Check out idjiit's threads. He did it for the storage space.1 (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306)2 (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=984)

[.Kevin.]

I wonder if taking out a spare tire is much comparison to taking out a rear bench seat etc.

[Yaristeve]

Check out idjiit's threads. He did it for the storage space.1 (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306)2 (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=984)

Yes, yes, yes!!! Thanks!!

[ddongbap]

"Oh shit, sorry ladies. Theres only enough room for one of you. The pretty one."

[Klink10]

"Oh shit, sorry ladies. Theres only enough room for one of you. The pretty one."

Did that when I raced my VW years ago.....she sat on a wash bucket.

[why?]

Heh if I'm picking up a lady I'm borrowing my dads jag.

[Qmobile]

ok so I've encountered by a lil set back. I've tried advanced auto parts....no........they told me to go over to Fastenal...still no dice :( so looks like I'm stuck

[Klink10]

Q....setback is? If it's the star bolts check out Northern Tool if you have one close by. I would say Sears but they might be iffy. If the stars are stuck spray with PB Blaster (Napa) and let them soak. Remove with tools using loosen a little ....tighten a little. Was going to use my air powered stuff but thought better of it as they probably would have snapped.

[why?]

ok so I've encountered by a lil set back. I've tried advanced auto parts....no........they told me to go over to Fastenal...still no dice :( so looks like I'm stuck

set back for what? What are you trying to find?

That first pull can be a pain. Like it just doesn't want to move, then all of a sudden it comes out, and you hopefully don't fall.

[padre1964]

i removed the rear seat because i wanted a more level storage area. found the proper socket at Autozone to remove the bolts. i left the seat support in and bolted the wood frame to it. also didnt want to remove the spare so i just raised the floor to level it out.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/5124326542_e0713fc539_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4002/5123723245_79af5f01ea_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5123723669_788193f215_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/5123724167_2e661ea0bf_z.jpg

[Qmobile]

Q....setback is? If it's the star bolts check out Northern Tool if you have one close by. I would say Sears but they might be iffy. If the stars are stuck spray with PB Blaster (Napa) and let them soak. Remove with tools using loosen a little ....tighten a little. Was going to use my air powered stuff but thought better of it as they probably would have snapped.
Yeah star bolts.....I'll look to see if there's any norther tool round here

set back for what? What are you trying to find?

That first pull can be a pain. Like it just doesn't want to move, then all of a sudden it comes out, and you hopefully don't fall.

star bolt socket

And it's not (according to my "test") a regular star bolt(torx head) it's like a regular bolt but with the torx head.....if that makes ANY since

[33OH]

You can leave the seatbelts in for now, just remove the backseats and see if you like them out.

[dvlnblkdrs]

i took mine out ages ago.. i had the 60/40.. the rear spare tire cover does NOT stay put, i repeat DOES NOT STAY PUT. i ended up taking it out.. also it bumped my rear back up to stock height, so i had to adjust my coilovers...and the car is now front end heavier in losing 100 lbs in the rear...so i gotta brake a lil sooner and lighter...

but its all worth it in the end, now i corner and race around town like a champ... sold my backseat to justjesus... :thumbsup:

[why?]

it is called external torx. They are relatively new from what i recall. My socket set was set up to remove them just fine. But the set was made to deal with like every single possible bolt you could come across.