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wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 12:45 AM
i'm really confused about which ones to get..
i'd like to get 15" rims after lowering my car.
the only reason why i would go for trd is because it would still be under warranty.. but i'm afraid trd would still be too much gap for 15" rims..

can someone advise me?
thanks in advance

Kaotic Lazagna
12-22-2006, 12:47 AM
ever think about getting the Tein's?

PetersRedYaris
12-22-2006, 12:55 AM
Look for pictures posted of Yari lowered with Tanabe NF210's on stock 15 steel wheels. The NF210's drop the car 1.3 inches, compared to TRD's 1.2 inches. I think the DF210's are to low at 1.6-1.8 inches. If I were you I would go for the TRD's or NF210's, thats what I plan on doing next to my Yaris.

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 12:57 AM
ever think about getting the Tein's?

no, where can i get more info about them? any suppliers on here??

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 12:59 AM
Look for pictures posted of Yari lowered with Tanabe NF210's on stock 15 steel wheels. The NF210's drop the car 1.3 inches, compared to TRD's 1.2 inches. I think the DF210's are to low at 1.6-1.8 inches. If I were you I would go for the TRD's or NF210's, thats what I plan on doing next to my Yaris.

the DF210's, that's too low for 15 inch rims? i thought it was just perfect, because i saw pics of trd springs with 17 inch rims and it looks ok, so i figure 15 inch rims would still have some wheel gap. is that right?

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:01 AM
This is what the car will look like after lowering with "TRD" springs (they're rebadged Eibach Sport springs) with 15" alloy wheels:

http://members.shaw.ca/bigsky2/Wheels/DSC_3127.jpg

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 01:05 AM
This is what the car will look like after lowering with "TRD" springs (they're rebadged Eibach Sport springs) with 15" alloy wheels:

http://members.shaw.ca/bigsky2/Wheels/DSC_3127.jpg

thanks bigsky, i was talking about your car in my post above.. i was gonna post a pic of it.. but then you replied here :)

that looks good, but if i was to get lower profile tires, then it could be a problem... or should i leave it around the same profile size as stock tires.. hmmm any suggestions??

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 01:05 AM
the stock steelies are 14 inch am i correct?

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 01:09 AM
btw, here's a pic of my car

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/funkygarage.php?do=thumb&width=480&rideid=34&id=r05ij6.jpg

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:09 AM
I suggest caculating your overall stock diameter (wheel + tire), and then calculating the new overall diameter with your new wheel and tire setup.

For me, the stock setup was 185-65-R15, and the new setup was 205-40-R17.

I think there is a minor difference in diameter, and hence there is slightly more gap between the tire and my wheel well.

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:11 AM
I think TRD (Eibach) springs have the least aggressive drop, which is about 1.3~1.5".

The Tanabe offers a more aggressive drop (the DF's I think, correct me if I'm wrong) and a less aggressive drop, NF's. The NF's are comparable to the Eibach/TRDs.

I do not know the drop of the Tein...

If you really want that "tucked" look, with absolutely no gap, I think the Tanabe DF + 15" rims (and proper tires) would look great.

wushumasterku
12-22-2006, 01:15 AM
If you really want that "tucked" look, with absolutely no gap, I think the Tanabe DF + 15" rims (and proper tires) would look great.

any rubbing for that set up?

PetersRedYaris
12-22-2006, 01:18 AM
Do you want to base your drop purely off looks or do you care about ride quality. TRD's and NF210's will ride better than DF210's or Teins.

Of course ride preference is an opinion.

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:19 AM
the stock steelies are 14 inch am i correct?

Yes, the steelies are 14".

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:20 AM
any rubbing for that set up?

There shouldn't be, provided you get same profile tires for the 15" alloys (185-65-R15) or lower profile tires for the aftermarket 15" wheels.

PetersRedYaris
12-22-2006, 01:21 AM
15 inch steelies are also stock. I believe they come with the convienience package. Also, 185/60/15, not 185/65/15, are stock here in the USA. Both of you are from Canada however.

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 01:22 AM
Edit:

3DR CE / 5DR LE (Canada)
Standard equipment is:
P175/65R14 All-Season Radials

It doesn't look like he got 15" alloys or 15" steelies.

OK, I stand corrected.

But he is from Canada, and they might be 14" if that was not part of his package.

Kaotic Lazagna
12-22-2006, 05:44 AM
the Tein's, if i remember correctly, offer a 1.9 inch drop on all four corners (lower for the sedans, i'm assuming) with a spring rate of 3.0kg/3.5kg front/rear. those are the ones that i want to get because members here say that the rear sometimes rubs with the Tanabe springs.

graywolf_14
12-22-2006, 11:53 AM
If I had 15's I would only go with a 205/50/15 or a 225/50/15

Black Yaris
12-22-2006, 03:00 PM
I suggest caculating your overall stock diameter (wheel + tire), and then calculating the new overall diameter with your new wheel and tire setup.

For me, the stock setup was 185-65-R15, and the new setup was 205-40-R17.

I think there is a minor difference in diameter, and hence there is slightly more gap between the tire and my wheel well.

stock tires are larger in Canada? here in the states out stock size is 185-60-15 witch would translate to a 215-40-17

Black Yaris
12-22-2006, 03:01 PM
If I had 15's I would only go with a 205/50/15 or a 225/50/15

205-55-15 and 225-50-15 have the exact same over all diameter, I am running 225-50's and love em

bigsky2
12-22-2006, 03:18 PM
stock tires are larger in Canada? here in the states out stock size is 185-60-15 witch would translate to a 215-40-17


Sorry, I screwed up the tire size there.

You are right, for the record:

15" Tire size = 185-60-15
14" Tire size = 175-65-14

YarisPR
12-22-2006, 03:22 PM
I have TRD Lowerin springs on my sedan and there's no rubbing even with 18''.
I'am looking foward on lowering it more but the streets here don't allow me to :thumbdown:

here's a pic
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos004.jpg

Tamago
12-22-2006, 04:54 PM
i'd go Tanabe's

installing TRD springs voids your warranty just as quickly lol, unless you really wanna get raped by install prices from the dealer.

jcove
12-22-2006, 06:53 PM
Look for pictures posted of Yari lowered with Tanabe NF210's on stock 15 steel wheels. The NF210's drop the car 1.3 inches, compared to TRD's 1.2 inches. I think the DF210's are to low at 1.6-1.8 inches. If I were you I would go for the TRD's or NF210's, thats what I plan on doing next to my Yaris.

My thoughts exactly, but I'm not going to put down the DF's. Those just aren't for me.

jcove
12-22-2006, 06:55 PM
i'd go Tanabe's

installing TRD springs voids your warranty just as quickly lol, unless you really wanna get raped by install prices from the dealer.

Where did you get that idea, that the TRD springs void the warranty?

johnnyfive
12-22-2006, 09:57 PM
Where did you get that idea, that the TRD springs void the warranty?

he was saying that your warranty will be voided with any non-dealer installed products that directly cause a problem with the car.

TRD, Toyota, Tenabe, dosnt matter, if the a dealer dosnt do the install ther is no more warranty ;)

PetersRedYaris
12-23-2006, 12:27 AM
Installing springs will void the warranty of what? The only thing affected would be the rear shocks and front struts which are replaceable parts anyway. How long does Toyota cover those parts in the first place? I would forget about voiding your factory warranty and install the springs you want regardless of brand. I do, however, like the TRD's best. Why?

DF210's- Too much drop for me although they are the most inexpensive.
NF210's- perfect amount of drop, cost little more.
TRD's- Perfect amount of drop and factory made for this car, cost about the same as NF210's.
Teins- way too much drop.

Amount of drop is purely individual preference but will affect handling.

paultyler_82
12-23-2006, 01:26 AM
Installing springs will void the warranty of what? The only thing affected would be the rear shocks and front struts which are replaceable parts anyway. How long does Toyota cover those parts in the first place? I would forget about voiding your factory warranty and install the springs you want regardless of brand. I do, however, like the TRD's best. Why?

DF210's- Too much drop for me although they are the most inexpensive.
NF210's- perfect amount of drop, cost little more.
TRD's- Perfect amount of drop and factory made for this car, cost about the same as NF210's.
Teins- way too much drop.

Amount of drop is purely individual preference but will affect handling.

Couldn't have said it better myself, one more thing you should take note of is how they affect the ride, and this is what I gather from others

DF210: Rougher ride than stock, stays much flatter in turns and braking
NF210: Comfortable ride, stays flatter in turns and braking than stock, although the rear springs may not feel firm enough
TRD: Roughest ride of the bunch, similar charactaristics to DF210
Tein: Rides about the same as the DF, very firm in cornering and heavy braking

I'd say this is about what I'd expect, I've never used Tanabe springs but everyone seems to sing thier praises on this car, most of the cars I've driven I've used Tein springs on, usually noticably rougher than stock, but handling charactaristics become very predictable and controllable. As for the TRDs... not to badmouth Eibach, as I know some people do like them, but I've always found them to be too rough, they will wear you down after driving with them for extended periods of time, and I've found they usually aren't the best in the market for improving handling, although they certainly do give an attractive drop, that's the problem, I've found Eibachs to be much more cosmetic oriented than comfort or performance oriented. Just listen to the other members reviews of the springs they use and make your decision with what you feel suits you best, I think I'll be breaking my tradition of buying Tein springs and going for a set of Tanabe NF210s

PetersRedYaris
12-23-2006, 01:32 AM
TRD's ride the roughest? Maybe I want the NF210's. This is my next mod and I don't want a rough ride.

paultyler_82
12-23-2006, 01:42 AM
TRD's ride the roughest? Maybe I want the NF210's. This is my next mod and I don't want a rough ride.

it's what I've been meant to understand from a friend that tested the DF and the TRD and kept the DF, and it doesn't really shock me, it's been the same story on two cars I personally used Eibachs on, it took a week before I was installing a set of TEINs on both of those.

hystria
12-23-2006, 09:22 AM
NF's are for confo rides while still lowering A LOT

Tamago
12-23-2006, 09:24 AM
1.5 is not a lot lol