Looking for a new head unit...the last piece to my sound system upgrade.

[Herbicidal]

Price-wise, somewhere in the $350 - $450 range, preferrably. I've been using Crutchfield for the research, then I'll look around for the best price. I'm still not sure whether to go with a single DIN or double. My main requirements are pretty simple. Blue tooth, USB and adjustable outputs for my two amps. Currently, one amp drives the front speakers with separates and the rear 6x9's. The other amp drives just the Alpine 10" subwoofer. I don't need to be able to watch movies either. :rolleyes:

Right now I'm looking at the Pioneer AVH-P3200BT (link (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_130P3200BT/Pioneer-AVH-P3200BT.html?tp=5684)). I don't have an ipod and I have no plans to get one either. So that piece of functionality is not important. I just want a excellent sounding, reliable, easy to use HU. I'm wide open to suggestions! Thanks!

[derickveliz2]

Welcome back!

That AVH looks awesome!
I like the USB imput, I've been plying all my mp3 with a single USB driver.

D.

[sickpuppy1]

Pick about three or four and read reviews. and I usually read the worst reviews first. I dont have an Ipod but I do use an mp3 player on long trips tot the lake or st louis ,springfield and such when stations arent available, so it is used at times. A handy feature. My next unit will have to have HD radio too. Not too many stations but quality is better. Kenwood and Pioneer seem to have the best in those categories. And suprisingly, Sony....But I cant bring myself to get a Sony, thats just me,lol just cant see it....
I'd really like to have a double din that would do movies too, but none are available with HD radio, or I should say not in my price range if at all

[geniusmusicman]

I think you should go with Kenwood or Alpine. Both are very good for sound quality, but Kenwood is the cheaper and is a better value overall.

[Herbicidal]

Welcome back!

That AVH looks awesome!
I like the USB imput, I've been plying all my mp3 with a single USB driver.

D.Oh, I've been here, just lurking more than posting...:laugh:

Pick about three or four and read reviews. and I usually read the worst reviews first. I dont have an Ipod but I do use an mp3 player on long trips tot the lake or st louis ,springfield and such when stations arent available, so it is used at times. A handy feature. My next unit will have to have HD radio too. Not too many stations but quality is better. Kenwood and Pioneer seem to have the best in those categories. And suprisingly, Sony....But I cant bring myself to get a Sony, thats just me,lol just cant see it....
I'd really like to have a double din that would do movies too, but none are available with HD radio, or I should say not in my price range if at allYeah, good tip about the worst reviews first. Then I see if anyone else mentions the same things, or if it's even important to me.

I think you should go with Kenwood or Alpine. Both are very good for sound quality, but Kenwood is the cheaper and is a better value overall.Thanks for the info. I had an Alpine deck back in 1985 and it was sweet then! I don't really know much about Kenwood's, but I'll try to keep an open mind. :smile:

Any comments on Pioneer's?

[sqcomp]

*meh*

I don't know if I could bring myself to use one...

he he

...an '85 Alpine? My first tuner was a 7909. Good $hit there!

I haven't seen too many sources that I'd use these days. I'm a minimalist, hence the 7909 as a first to the P-01 I'm using now. Very minimalist look.

Take a look at the Pioneer DEH 880 PRS

[blacks]

Here's a cheaper price on ebay
Link
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-AVH-P3200BT-In-Dash-DVD-AV-Receiver-AVHP3200BT-/260689556758?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb24ef516#ht_2128wt_905

[Herbicidal]

Here's a cheaper price on ebay
Link
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-AVH-P3200BT-In-Dash-DVD-AV-Receiver-AVHP3200BT-/260689556758?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb24ef516#ht_2128wt_905Thanks, man. Still haven't made a decision.

*meh*

I don't know if I could bring myself to use one...

he he

...an '85 Alpine? My first tuner was a 7909. Good $hit there!

I haven't seen too many sources that I'd use these days. I'm a minimalist, hence the 7909 as a first to the P-01 I'm using now. Very minimalist look.

Take a look at the Pioneer DEH 880 PRSNow you've got me thinking about the minimalist look. I don't want something flashy, more understated works for me, like the single DIN. I'm looking at the "older" Pioneer models too. Alpine had like two units with Bluetooth on their web site, not much of a selection. :rolleyes: Haven't checked the Kenwoods yet.

Thanks, and I'll keep looking and reading...

[geniusmusicman]

There is a lot better selection with Kenwood decks when it comes to features and Kenwood usually give you the most value for your buck. Kenwood is what I am going with next. Here is the one I am looking at getting next:

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX494/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X494.html?tp=5684

[custom Lftback]

Personally I have the 3100, the model just prior to the 3200. I have been more than happy with this HU. It is reliable, the touch screen has never gave me problems and the screen is really good picture for a movie. Haven't found anything I dislike really. I'm gonna upgrade to the Bluetooth adapter for my phone soon. But good luck on your decision!!

[_S7V7N_]

I just got rid of my JVC dvd player and purchased the Kenwood Excelon KDC-X794,should be here this week, i do have an Ipod Touch, so the USB connection will come in handy, as well as running a 3.5 mm connector to run Pandora off my phone, as well as an MP3. I'm also curious as to how much the 4V outputs are gonna effect my system. I think the outputs on the DVD player were in the 2.5V range. If anybody else has the deck the only question i have is Kenwood makes an Ipod cable (Kenwood KCA-IP101 Automotive Spec iPod 1 Wire Direct Cable) is this one necessary to run the Ipod ?

[Herbicidal]

Thanks everyone for your feedback and suggestions so far. I looked a bit more at the Kenwood on Crutchfield and found this guy: Kenwood Excelon KDC-X994 (link) (http://www.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?tp=5684). I've decided I want the USB adapter to be in the back for a cleaner look. That way I can put a thumb drive on it and hide it from view.

This section from the Crutchfield Product Research Team caught my eye. Looks a like a TON of adjustablility when it comes to the sound stage:
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Sound Excellence DSP: In order to optimize the sound quality, you can use the Sound Excellence DSP to set the type of vehicle and speaker sizes, locations, distances and x-over points. The DSP settings include the following:

•Cabin Setting: Choose from Compact, Full Size Car, Station Wagon, Mini Van, SUV, Mini Van (Long), or Off
•Speaker Setting: The speaker X'over is automatically set when the position and size of each speaker are select from the following items.
◦Front: Location (Door, On Dash, or Under Dash); Size: (6-1/2", 6-3/4", 7", 4"x6", 5"x7", 6"x8", 6"x9", 7"x10", OEM, 4", or 5"); Tweeter (None or Use)
◦Rear: Location (Door, Rear Deck, 2nd Row or 3rd Row; Size (6-1/2", 6-3/4", 7", 4"x6", 5"x7", 6"x8", 6"x9", 7"x10", OEM, 4", or 5")
◦Subwoofer: Size(10", 12", 15", None, 6-1/2" or 8")
•Digital Time Alignment (DTA): Choose from 0.00 to 14.44 feet for the Front pair of speakers, Rear pair of speakers, and Subwoofer distances in reference to the distance between your listening positioning and the locations of the particular speakers.
•X'Over: The Kenwood eXcelon headunit provides independent high-pass crossovers for the unit's front and rear speaker/preamp outputs, as well as a subwoofer low-pass crossover.
◦Front High Pass Filter: Frequency (30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80,90, 100, 120, 150, 180, 220, or 250Hz); Slope (-12, -18, or -24 dB per octave); or you can also select full-range
◦Rear High Pass Filter: Frequency (30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 120, 150, 180, 220, or 250Hz); Slope (-12, -18, or -24 dB per octave); you can also select full-range
◦Subwoofer Low Pass Filter: Frequency (30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 120, 150, 180, 220, or 250 Hz); Slope (-12, -18, or -24 dB per octave); Phase (Normal/Reverse); or you can also select full-range
Equalizer Control: Equalizer Control allows you to use one of the System Q presets, or set your own custom settings using the 5-band Equalizer. The EQ adjustments are as follows:

•Preset EQ: You can select from Natural, Rock, Pops, Easy, Top 40, Jazz, Game, iPod (you can select from 22 EQ curve types), or User.
•5-Band EQ: The User mode allows you to adjust the following 5-Band EQ (62.5Hz, 250Hz, 1kHz, 4kHz, 16kHz) settings.
◦Band Levels: Independent front and rear EQ level of -9dB to +9dB.
◦Bass Effect: Enhances the bass response of Band 1 (62.5Hz).
Position Control: For a better sound-stage you can select your optimal listening position. You can choose from All, Front Left, Front Right or Front. You can also select to manually fine tune the sound stage by selecting the distance for each individual speaker in the vehicle compared to your listening position. You can select between 0.00 to 5.58 feet for the Left Front Speaker, Right Front Speaker, Left Rear Speaker, Right Rear Speaker, Left Subwoofer and/or Right Subwoofer.
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Now we're getting somewhere!!!! :thumbsup: Still looking!

[derickveliz2]

Looks cool!

my HU and sound stage only happens with the front speakers, I got rid of the ones in the rear.

D.

[geniusmusicman]

That one is an awesome deck. Sound is going to be amazing. It's not too expensive either.

[Palmer812]

S7V7N you don't need the Kenwood cable. The one that comes with your Ipod works fine. The Kenwood is just a little thicker and holds up better. The KDC-X794 and 994 are both great units. If you are using your Ipod alot they are way better than the KDC-X494 because they have a 5 line display.

[sqcomp]

look locally for that deck. If you don't find anyone you want to deal with locally, Palmer or I can help you out.

...I say that without consulting Palmer first...

I like that time alignment feature. That will help you find your center stage without having to buy a center channel...which so may people think they need.

[Herbicidal]

SQComp - thanks for the offer! So does this one (KDC-X994) meet with your approval? I don't want you to drive down here and put your foot up my a$$ like Alien Mantis thought you'd do to Derick! :biggrin: I'm not finding really anything else comparable in this price range.

Crutchfield has it for $299 + free shipping and no sales tax for me. SonicElectronix has it for $299, but it's out of stock. At the moment, I'm leaning towards Crutchfield...

In their install notes, looks like I need this too, since I'm going from the factory integrated stereo:

Installation Details for your 2008 Yaris
» You must purchase a factory radio trim panel (Toyota part #55405-52640) in order to install an aftermarket radio.

Is that the right part? Do you guys know of a good place to buy from that won't bend me over? :eek:

[derickveliz2]

Mine came with it, (from Crutchfield) it was good! as a promotion of $35 savings. I also got another one for $20 + $7 shipping, a little different but not as good.

My 2 cts

D.

[_S7V7N_]

I got my 794 for under 160 brand new, them sites are good if you're looking for the warranty though, For the price i paid , if it last me a year it'll be worth it. Which i doubt i'll have any issues at all, i bought my jvc used and i had it a year and a half with no issues.


@ Palmer : How do the Scoche ones hold up,(ipod cable ) i noticed that the apple store carries them and wal-mart has them as well. I did some research on the generic ones you can get for 5 bucks but they said that they're not an exact fit and over time can wear out your connector on the bottom of the Touch.

Question 2 : Is the major difference from the 794 and 994 the bluetooth and the display ?

[Palmer812]

I haven't tried the Scosche cable. Yes the only differences between the 794 and 994 is bluetooth and color changing display.

[sqcomp]

The JVC's are pretty good sellers. Not bad $$ for 24 bit D/A performance. Out where we are Kenwood tends to sell more because of ease of use.

[Herbicidal]

I've pretty much decided I'm going to order the KDC-X994. The price is in my range and I can't seem to find a comparable HU for the same $$$'s. Hmmm, my Tundra needs some new speakers, after 10 years, it's probably time to upgrade them! :biggrin:

[Herbicidal]

Just ordered the Kenwood and two sets of Polk Audio db651's for my Tundra. The Polks are on sale, buy one pair, get the second pair at 1/2 price. Free shipping, no sales tax! Yaaay! :thumbsup:

[_S7V7N_]

My 794 Just came in, it'll be installed by tomorrow, pics to come !!

[Herbicidal]

Nice! I hope it meets your expectations. :smile: