New 2012 Yaris Reveal Coming December 22!

[VitzBoy]

Toyota Motor Corp. has confirmed the Japanese market launch date of its new 2012 Toyota Yaris (Vitz in Japan market). It will be introduced in Japan on December 22, 2010. Expect the new Yaris/Vitz to make its work premiere at a major car show sometime next year.

The Japanese company said that aside from the edgier design language, the new subcompact will shine in terms of fuel efficiency with the 1.3-liter gasoline engine model, which features a start-stop system, returning up to 26.5lt/100km, equal to 62.3 mpg US and 3.8lt/100km, with CO2 emissions of just 88g/km.

According to Toyota, the new Yaris / Vitz will be the one of the most fuel-efficient models in its Japanese market range.

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[marcus]

looks photoshopped.. front bumper is crooked lines not matching base on angles..

[47_MasoN_47]

62.3MPG!!!! HOLY CRAP!

Are they only going to make a 5 door or will the 3dr/sedan be continued?

[redglare45]

.... the 1.3-liter gasoline engine model, which features a start-stop system, returning up to 26.5lt/100km, equal to 62.3 mpg US and 3.8lt/100km, with CO2 emissions of just 88g/km.

According to Toyota, the new Yaris / Vitz will be the one of the most fuel-efficient models in its Japanese market range.

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Wow! 62.3 MPG!!!:eyebulge:

I wonder if the U.S. will see this engine displacement though?

[alch3miss]

niice!

[TwoBearWisconsin]

Wow! 62.3 MPG!!!:eyebulge:

I wonder if the U.S. will see this engine displacement though?


Don't hold your breath...

[redglare45]

lol...I sure am not, since Japan usually gets all the goodies

[Kal-El]

We won't get the 1.3. America always gets just one engine choice in economy cars. While Europe and Japan get like 4-5 engine choices on each car. :mad:

It's sickening.

We'll probably see a carry over 1.5 with minor revisions. Hopefully, though, we see a new transmission. 4-speeds don't cut it anymore.

[auxmike]

What would 62mpg's do to Prius sales here in the US?
I'd think they would rehash the 1.5L and keep the same mpgs....
I'm really looking forward to seeing the real official photos of the car or even better the unveiling on YouTube:w00t:

[ECHOKnight2000]

While I like the current hatch design its nice that they are going more "aggressive" look. Although the new Vitz/Yaris seems like it will be more of a generic car compared to the current, meaning not as quirky. I guess we'll see.

I hope they improve the current engine. Its over 10 years old. That's rediculous. Toyota is notorious for being glacier slow on engine development compared to rivals. Maybe they will introduce stop/start to the U.S.

[Kal-El]

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I hope they improve the current engine. Its over 10 years old. That's rediculous. Toyota is notorious for being glacier slow on engine development compared to rivals. Maybe they will introduce stop/start to the U.S.

Honda is even slower with engine improvements, although they've come along with higher speed transmissions sooner in their cheaper cars.

Fact is, Toyota has still made the most fuel efficient engines up until only this year as rivals have finally caught up. But you're right, now's the time to upgrade. They can't afford to stand still when even Ford and GM are making massive strides.

[Kioshi]

The december issue of CARトプ has the 2012 VITZ on the front cover along w/ the GTR.
I will try to nab this magazine and provide pics to the site....

http://www.7andy.jp/magazine/detail/-/accd/1200215238

Bigger image --> http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/carmedia/d10001c208.html

[Betrivent]

Woot, it's being revealed on my birthday!

[ECHOKnight2000]

The december issue of CARトプ has the 2012 VITZ on the front cover along w/ the GTR.
I will try to nab this magazine and provide pics to the site....

http://www.7andy.jp/magazine/detail/-/accd/1200215238

Bigger image --> http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/carmedia/d10001c208.html


Good deal. But I'm checking out that cute girl on there:laugh::biggrin:

[eht13]

I like it, except that the front end looks a little busy. I don't mind the aggressive look of it, I guess the main problem to me is the large size and awkward triangular shape of the sections around the fog lights. But overall it looks good.

I wonder what the new sedan will look like too, assuming the sedan continues in 2012.

[Kal-El]

I like it, except that the front end looks a little busy. I don't mind the aggressive look of it, I guess the main problem to me is the large size and awkward triangular shape of the sections around the fog lights. But overall it looks good.

I wonder what the new sedan will look like too, assuming the sedan continues in 2012.

The silver one pictured above is only the most extreme option offered in Japan. The regular model pictured many times in other threads is just as toned down as the current model.

The sedan will certainly live on. It sells just as well as the LB even worldwide. Actually, I see a lot more sedans than LB's.

[eht13]

The silver one pictured above is only the most extreme option offered in Japan. The regular model pictured many times in other threads is just as toned down as the current model.

The sedan will certainly live on. It sells just as well as the LB even worldwide. Actually, I see a lot more sedans than LB's.

True, I guess what I was thinking was that I prefer this more aggressive looking version here, over the plainer ones, except for those large triangles around the fog lights. Good point about the sedan, it must be continuing... looking forward to seeing it.

[nemelek]

Wow! 62.3 MPG!!!:eyebulge:

I wonder if the U.S. will see this engine displacement though?

I could imagine the out cry about the performance.

[Kioshi]

well, the store hasn't received the magazine yet, i will check another location if they have it~

[ECHOKnight2000]

The silver one pictured above is only the most extreme option offered in Japan. The regular model pictured many times in other threads is just as toned down as the current model.

The sedan will certainly live on. It sells just as well as the LB even worldwide. Actually, I see a lot more sedans than LB's.

Being in the U.S., yes you will see more sedans as that's more popular in general in the U.S. hatches aren't as popular. Catching on. But I think regardless American's love their trunks. I preferr hatch but that's me.

I could imagine the out cry about the performance.

Well I think being Japan its not as big a deal of the hp. Remember they are a crowded country especially in the cities. Plus their speed limits are low compared to ours. Also gas tax I believe is higher and what not. I have no doubt they like hp and performance but I think they aren't as obsessed about like the U.S. culture is, in general. :thumbsup:

[auxmike]

well, the store hasn't received the magazine yet, i will check another location if they have it~

would Borders sell this?

[CTScott]

Here's a video that's a teaser of the 12/22 unveiling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4bUfnx3tY4

[Kioshi]

would Borders sell this?

No sir, BORDERS will not. It will be at Kinokuniya or if a massive Mitsuwa store is in your state, then that is the next best place.

I'm going to check another store location on the 15th, the store SHOULD have it by then...

Here's a video that's a teaser of the 12/22 unveiling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4bUfnx3tY4

Awesome find Scott.

[CTScott]

Another find - This one is a flash animation with 9 "secret pictures":

http://toyota.vo.llnwd.net/e1/toyota/heart-up-vitz/

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[Kioshi]

First image says in japanese...

"You dont need words.''
"If you see you will understand''

I'll translate the others tomorrow...

[Kal-El]

First image says in japanese...

"You dont need words.''
"If you see you will understand''

I'll translate the others tomorrow...


Hey Kioshi, would you or anyone else here know why products such as cars still have English all over them even domestically in Japan? I find that odd, especially for all those that don't speak English. Everything from badges to the instrument panels seem to be in English. I would expect a Japanese product made and sold in Japan would have Japanese print on it, No?

Just curious. :iono:

[Bluevitz-rs]

Makes me feel old to have a 1 gen now. LOL. It really look cool, but I'll never give up my cable throttled engine. Even power steering was pushing it for me. I'm more into the basics of driving. :)

[eht13]

After seeing that new official video on YouTube and the Japanese Toyota site sneak pics, I'm thinking the new Vitz will be pretty cool. I wonder if the Yaris hatchback will continue as a 3-door, because even the current model is only a 5-door in Japan (so the new model pics we've seen so far are only 5-door).

I looked at the Belta (sedan) section on the Japanese Toyota site too, but there are no hints there at all (yet anyway) about a redesign.

[Kal-El]

After seeing that new official video on YouTube and the Japanese Toyota site sneak pics, I'm thinking the new Vitz will be pretty cool. I wonder if the Yaris hatchback will continue as a 3-door, because even the current model is only a 5-door in Japan (so the new model pics we've seen so far are only 5-door).

I looked at the Belta (sedan) section on the Japanese Toyota site too, but there are no hints there at all (yet anyway) about a redesign.

Yeah, I think the new car is going to grow on people. For me, the front end is a big improvement. At least now, you won't "need" eyelids to fix the overly happy headlights as found on the current model. Hopefully, the same fix is done with the sedan headlights which are also to high and "happy" looking.

I also can't believe the 3-door isn't offered in Japan. :confused: JDM cars are known to come with tons of options for their home market. From numerous engines, tons of colors, all kinds of trim levels, and tech options we never see. Yet, they can only get the 5-door. Weird.

I'm dying to see the new sedan and I'm surprised it isn't being leaked like the LB since they are sold on the same schedule.

[ECHOKnight2000]

Yeah, I think the new car is going to grow on people. For me, the front end is a big improvement. At least now, you won't "need" eyelids to fix the overly happy headlights as found on the current model. Hopefully, the same fix is done with the sedan headlights which are also to high and "happy" looking.

I also can't believe the 3-door isn't offered in Japan. :confused: JDM cars are known to come with tons of options for their home market. From numerous engines, tons of colors, all kinds of trim levels, and tech options we never see. Yet, they can only get the 5-door. Weird.

I'm dying to see the new sedan and I'm surprised it isn't being leaked like the LB since they are sold on the same schedule.

Toyota is very good at keeping a lid on stuff. Probably one of the best at it. Not to say people still get a sneak peak. Like the 2012 Camry. that's really under wraps. I think more so now cause of the competition is a lot better. I think like the current Vitz that came out the sedan came out later. So we'll probrably see that later for this version. If it comes out before the new Camry then we'll have somewhat of an idea of the design direction of the next Camry (if history is any indication. Current sedan simlar design/outside). Or if the Camry comes out first, that might be an indication of what the sedan could look like or very similar. :thumbsup:

[Kal-El]

Toyota is very good at keeping a lid on stuff. Probably one of the best at it. Not to say people still get a sneak peak. Like the 2012 Camry. that's really under wraps. I think more so now cause of the competition is a lot better. I think like the current Vitz that came out the sedan came out later. So we'll probrably see that later for this version. If it comes out before the new Camry then we'll have somewhat of an idea of the design direction of the next Camry (if history is any indication. Current sedan simlar design/outside). Or if the Camry comes out first, that might be an indication of what the sedan could look like or very similar. :thumbsup:


You're right that Toyota is one of the kings of keeping design secrets. Usually, Toyota doesn't show their designs until very close to release. On the other hand, companies like GM and Ford show production cars sometimes 2 or more years ahead of release. Volt, '12 Focus, Fiesta, Cruze, ect are the recent examples. Companies shouldn't let the competition prepare by publicly showing models way ahead of time.

Yeah, the new Camry is secured in an underground bunker somewhere. :tongue: It is the worlds most important model and Toyota ain't letting the competition prepare.

I remember the '07 Yaris sedan came out after the '07 Camry at least in the US (both new that year). I assume the same will be true this time around.

[why?]

Yeah, I think the new car is going to grow on people. For me, the front end is a big improvement. At least now, you won't "need" eyelids to fix the overly happy headlights as found on the current model. Hopefully, the same fix is done with the sedan headlights which are also to high and "happy" looking.

I also can't believe the 3-door isn't offered in Japan. :confused: JDM cars are known to come with tons of options for their home market. From numerous engines, tons of colors, all kinds of trim levels, and tech options we never see. Yet, they can only get the 5-door. Weird.

I'm dying to see the new sedan and I'm surprised it isn't being leaked like the LB since they are sold on the same schedule.

As weird as this is going to sound, 3 doors just don't sell in Japan. Look at all the models, STi, Evo, etc, they are all 4 or 5 door now.

It is the reason 3 doors were so uncommon on Japanese cars for so long. Heck, the Japanese car companies don't even get it.

[ECHOKnight2000]

You're right that Toyota is one of the kings of keeping design secrets. Usually, Toyota doesn't show their designs until very close to release. On the other hand, companies like GM and Ford show production cars sometimes 2 or more years ahead of release. Volt, '12 Focus, Fiesta, Cruze, ect are the recent examples. Companies shouldn't let the competition prepare by publicly showing models way ahead of time.

Yeah, the new Camry is secured in an underground bunker somewhere. :tongue: It is the worlds most important model and Toyota ain't letting the competition prepare.

I remember the '07 Yaris sedan came out after the '07 Camry at least in the US (both new that year). I assume the same will be true this time around.

You're right. Its competition. Also hype/marketing. Its a balance. GM isn't good about this. They hype up stuff too early and too much in general. You know? Although we will get a sneak peak at the next Yaris (new Vitz) early. of course JDM spec but in reality pretty similar. With the internet and instant information, its harder for automakers to keep stuff under wraps. We're seeing 2012 models already and its not even 2011!! crazy! its nice for us car people (at least for me) but its crazy to think that. I remember Toyota unwrapped the current USDM Yaris/hatch in 05 but it was marketed as an 07. I read its for resale value. of course hype and marketing. You gotta have the latest and greatest. Imagine telling your neighbor you have a car that is a 2013 model? And its 2010 lol.

Although I think the Yaris came out a similar time as the current Camry. Both came out March of 06 from what I remembered.

I just have this bad feeling that the next yaris will have a 4 speed auto still:thumbdown: even the fail refresh of the 2011 Corolla has a 4speed. WTF? The competition is kicking butt you can't slack Toyota. I know most of their line up is dated, but they can't just make another car/appliance anymore. They have to really step it up. Yes there are still loyal Toyota buyers that buy cause of the badge but that's no excuse to be lazy. End of rant:biggrin:

[Kioshi]

Latest CARトップ magazine bought.
Scans will be posted late thurs night/friday morning..due to snowboarding.

There are 4 grades... F, RS, U, and JEWELA. Jewela is pretty much modellista..in 2 versions..
17 colors offered!

Specs...
All models offer cvt transmission...but a pic with the manual is shown. ill read in details and see what's going on.
Rs tire size are...195/50r16
engine for Rs is 80kw(90ps)

[roxy1]

Latest CARトップ magazine bought.
Scans will be posted late thurs night/friday morning..due to snowboarding.

There are 4 grades... F, RS, U, and JEWELA. Jewela is pretty much modellista..in 2 versions..
17 colors offered!

Specs...
All models offer cvt transmission...but a pic with the manual is shown. ill read in details and see what's going on.
Rs tire size are...195/50r16
engine for Rs is 80kw(90ps)

ok. its time. lets have it.

[Kal-El]

I can't believe Japan gets 17 colors! The US will only see about 7-8 colors. Then again, Americans don't like all those gay colors. :tongue:

[Thirty-Nine]

I'll be interested to see if Toyota gives the new Yaris (or whatever they're going to call it) any love. They didn't with the Echo, they did more with the current Yaris, albeit not much more. Then again, seein the preliminary photos from other threads, I don't think I'm going to be a big fan of the next version.

[CTScott]

It's now 12/22 in Japan, so the unveiling should be happening. I just hit the toyota.jp site, and it still shows the existing Vitz. The "Heart Up! Vitz" link, which had the teasers for the new one now brings you to a page with an error message.

[digitalrain]

1st post here at Yaris world! Just signed up so I could see what others are thinking about the 3rd Gen Yaris. I hope they spice up the engine for some more performance. Making the rear sway bar standard equipment in the RS would be great too.

[digitalrain]

Looks very aggressive compared to 1st and 2nd gen. I wish I could read the Japanese to find out the details. Couldn't find any engine specs tho...

[CTScott]

The preview site has been updated with a new flash that gives 100 points about the new Vitz. I can't read Japanese, but from what I could gather going through the 100 slides it will have two engine options: 1.3L and 1.5L (although the toyota.jp website spec is showing a 1.0L and a 1.3L). Transmission options will be CVT, MT, and AT. There will be 2WD and 4WD versions.


Here's the second commercial, which shows the car better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpwJyRrxCaw

[CTScott]

Here are videos of the 4 packages: F, U, Jewela, and RS

F:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OneSiehDDBs

U:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhNMD4GqIM

Jewela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRkuc8vFlKg

RS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2avRV8KLmts

[yaris 2sz]

http://toyota.jp/vitz/

http://toyota.jp/vitz/003_p_001/interior/color/index.html

http://toyota.jp/vitz/003_p_001/interior/utilities/side/index.html

http://toyota.jp/customize/vitz/?P=20101222

http://toyota.jp/vitz/dop/package/

[roxy1]

i cant quite tell, but if those rear seats dont fold flat, it is a deal killer for me.(i transport dogs often...need flatness) it is the fatal flaw that made me cross the fiesta off my list.

i hope the color panels will be available for any model...it really adds to the interior.

[auxmike]

The outside does'nt look that much different to me. But the interior options are incredible!
Nature,athlete,etc.
Overall, I think the interior is much more interesting than the exterior....

[Vitzboy9]

At last a Vitz not for women only...

I came across also with some photos at the following link (nothing new...)

http://jp-cardesigncorner.blogspot.com (http://jp-cardesigncorner.blogspot.com/search/label/Toyota%20Yaris%20%E3%83%88%E3%83%A8%E3%82%BF%E3%83 %B4%E3%82%A3%E3%83%83%E3%83%84)

[eht13]

Looks pretty cool, nice to see the full "reveal" now officially... and according to that commercial it may even outrun an Apache helicopter. :iono::laugh:

It'll be interesting to see whether the 3-door hatchback continues in markets where it's available now, and also to see what the new Belta (sedan) will look like.

[Dave]

i cant quite tell, but if those rear seats dont fold flat, it is a deal killer for me.(i transport dogs often...need flatness) it is the fatal flaw that made me cross the fiesta off my list.

i hope the color panels will be available for any model...it really adds to the interior.

I was randomly clicking on links I can't read, and came across this one:
http://toyota.jp/vitz/003_p_001/interior/seat/index.html

I think it looks flat?


I'm reasonably happy with the redesign. Some of the quirkiness that I liked about the Yaris looks to be gone (centre gauges, flip out cup holders) but I'm happy to see that Toyota stepped up the interior features to better match the competition. The Yaris was really starting to look dated.

I wish I could read what the Smart Stop was all about. Some of the (pictures of) options look pretty nice too, but I don't really know what I'm reading. I think I see: heated seats, back-up camera with one of the HU's, automatic headlights.

I'm really excited to see what happens next for the sedan and what makes it over to North America.

Can anyone tell if the automatic is still just a four speed?

[Kal-El]

Looking better and better. :smile:

Now bring on the sedan!

[BluYrs]

Yeah, Blazing Blue (8T0) continues! :clap:

http://toyota.vo.llnwd.net/e1/toyotajp/vitz/exterior/bodycolor/image/bodycolor_img_color8T0.jpg

[frownonfun]

hey i just found another link with a pic of the new vitz... oh wait...

http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/ariefwiryanto1/toyota/Matrix/2010-toyota-matrix-pic-19610.jpg
http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/ariefwiryanto1/toyota/Matrix/2010-toyota-matrix-pic-19610.jpg


Disaster!

[wooverstone8]

I like the looks of the 2012 Yaris, but I still prefer the styling of my 09 Liftback.

[roxy1]

Yeah, Blazing Blue (8T0) continues! :clap:

http://toyota.vo.llnwd.net/e1/toyotajp/vitz/exterior/bodycolor/image/bodycolor_img_color8T0.jpg


VERSA
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/b95ba_2009_nissan_versa_16_cheapest_car_in_the_us. jpg

a little too close for my liking....i know there is only so much you can do with a small hatch, especially the back.

[tk-421]

^^ They're practically identical! :eek:

The news is not good as far as the interiors either. They are pretty much exactly the same as the Fit:

2012 Yaris:
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Honda Fit:
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/8428017/0803_02_z+2009_honda_fit+interior_view.jpg

[Kal-El]

May not be a bad thing. The Versa has been the best seller by far the last couple of years. And the Fit's interior is the most praised in the segment.

Maybe Toyota's on to something.

:tongue:

[MadMax]

Are you kidding, the Versa is ugly!

And I don't like the 3rd gen Yaris either, looks too much like a Matrix.

Just another good reason to hang onto my 08 hatch!

Cheers! M2

[Kal-El]

Are you kidding, the Versa is ugly!



Agreed. I was just pointing out that the Versa has easily beaten the competition in sales for the last two years. I don't know why. :iono:

But even though the new Yaris shares some ques with the Versa, it manages to look much better - particularly the headlights.

[ECHOKnight2000]

^^ They're practically identical! :eek:

The news is not good as far as the interiors either. They are pretty much exactly the same as the Fit:

2012 Yaris:
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Honda Fit:
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/8428017/0803_02_z+2009_honda_fit+interior_view.jpg

But the Honda FIT has a better erogonomics overall. And it doesnt' look as dull.

Agreed. I was just pointing out that the Versa has easily beaten the competition in sales for the last two years. I don't know why. :iono:

But even though the new Yaris shares some ques with the Versa, it manages to look much better - particularly the headlights.


I don't know why the Versa is selling more. Maybe more incentives. I was partial to the design when it came out. Its certainly aged. The sedan is :barf: that's saying a lot coming from an ECHO owner:laugh::laugh:

I'm sure Nissan is happy regardless. I think maybe one reason is the Versa is really a C segment car. Its on par if not bigger than the Sentra (interior volume). Or pretty darn close. You know Americans. love their big cars. Of course Nissan is deceptive in marketing a C segment car in a B segment market. Of course it will have the most space, its in a different class. Hopefully the next gen will look better. :thumbsup:

[roxy1]

^^ They're practically identical! :eek:

The news is not good as far as the interiors either. They are pretty much exactly the same as the Fit:
Honda Fit:
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/8428017/0803_02_z+2009_honda_fit+interior_view.jpg

i personally think with the color panels, the yaris interior actually looks nicer...i have always felt the fit interior is a bit too busy:(the question is, will we have that option without having to upgrade to a model we dont want?)

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/imagesCA77O7MD.jpg

[Yaristeve]

Are you kidding, the Versa is ugly!

And I don't like the 3rd gen Yaris either, looks too much like a Matrix.

Just another good reason to hang onto my 08 hatch!

Cheers! M2

Agreed. I am SOOOO glad my 95 Accord crapped out this year and "let" me buy the 2011 Yaris. I would be so annoyed if I had missed the original style (even if the 2009+ is slightly updated)...

[auxmike]

When can we go to the showrooms to see this car in the flesh in the USA???

[Kal-El]

When can we go to the showrooms to see this car in the flesh in the USA???

My guess is no earlier than late summer of 2011 to go on sale. There may be auto shows that may have it in display before that though. The new Camry should be on sale before the new Yaris and it is still in Toyota's vault.

[brg88tx]

guess our center gauges will go the way of the dodo bird.

[Kal-El]

guess our center gauges will go the way of the dodo bird.

Even though most of us like them, they've cost Toyota countless Yaris sales.

In my observations, a large percentage of those that rejected the Yaris for something else was specifically because of the center gauges. Sad, but true.
People not used to them are just turned off by them and won't consider the Yaris no matter how good it is.

[thebarber]

i loved the 6spd manual and 1.8L power in the versa....id drive one

[roxy1]

i loved the 6spd manual and 1.8L power in the versa....id drive one

but that 6 speed didnt accomplish what everyone seems to think it would in the yaris....the Versa 6 speed still revs around 3000 rpm's at 70 mph.

[ECHOKnight2000]

Even though most of us like them, they've cost Toyota countless Yaris sales.

In my observations, a large percentage of those that rejected the Yaris for something else was specifically because of the center gauges. Sad, but true.
People not used to them are just turned off by them and won't consider the Yaris no matter how good it is.

You've hit it on the head.

I read countless comments on the center IP. I know i'm bias but I have no qualms about it. I like that its different and quirky. But I know most don't care for that. Funny how people want something different but when change comes, nope! I think center gauges work in small cars cause the space issue.

[thebarber]

but that 6 speed didnt accomplish what everyone seems to think it would in the yaris....the Versa 6 speed still revs around 3000 rpm's at 70 mph.

and here i was thinking that they just separated the gears to stay in the powerband more easily (or to stay at consistently lower rpms w/ city driving)

you were thinking the 6th would be a super overdrive?

[auxmike]

I prefer the center mounted guages.
Ever have to drop a steering column just to the instrument panel?
UGH!:eek:

[roxy1]

and here i was thinking that they just separated the gears to stay in the powerband more easily (or to stay at consistently lower rpms w/ city driving)

you were thinking the 6th would be a super overdrive?

i was just saying that a vast majority of calls for the yaris to have a 6 speed manual was so the highway rpm's would be lower and presumably increase mpg's.

ive always said a 6 speed wouldnt necessarily mean that at all, as evidenced by what they did with the versa.


on to the center gauges. that never bothered me so much on the yaris as much as the fact that the execution of it was so cheap looking. on balance, i prefer the new interior.

[ibanezjeepguy]

I'm glad the gauges are away and out of the drivers view. it forces the driver to focus more on the road than on the fancy dials in front. it did take me awhile getting used to glancing away but its easy I dont concentrate on speed much, just set the cruise and roll.
RPMs do need to be higher at highway to make up for wind resistance and to help channel more air into the engine for better efficiency.

[roxy1]

I'm glad the gauges are away and out of the drivers view. it forces the driver to focus more on the road than on the fancy dials in front..

unless a person is 4'5" there eyes are well above the steering wheel, thus looking forward puts your eyes on the road. looking at gauges either to your right or behind your steering wheel requires, by definition, your eyes to come momentarily off the road.

[s3la]

When I drove the '11, I was thrown off initially because of the center gauges; but as time passed and I got more used to it, I didn't mind the set up at all.

The thing that was so weird for me was that I felt like I was sitting "above" the car because the lack of left guages naturally made the dash in front of the driver so low. Of course, i've been driving a '98 Buick LeSabre for the last 5 years, so driving anything but a tank feels odd.

But even though is different from what i'm used to, I have fallen in love with the Yaris 5-door LB.

As far as the '12 goes, I am overjoyed that it isn't a bubble anymore. I approve.:thumbup:

[roxy1]

As far as the '12 goes, I am overjoyed that it isn't a bubble anymore. I approve.:thumbup:

yes. every female i ever met had the same reaction to my black yaris hatch: "aw, thats so cute!"

the new one has less of the "cute" factor. i dont think that is a bad thing.

[yaris2010RS]

i personally do not mind the 2012, will i trade in mine for it? prob not, i love mine.

the only part i am not impressed with is how long it is (or how long it looks), a huge part of getting my yaris is the fact that it will fit in my garage with a set of stairs and my snowblower and powerwasher behind it. with a longer car i would need to find another place for this stuff.... and the fact i can parallel park my car in the garage, close the door and wash my car by hand in mid winter is also something i love and cannot do on my moms camry....

The yaris is no longer a tiny car :(

[BluYrs]

The yaris is no longer a tiny car :(

The new one is exactly 10cm (3,9'') longer than the current one. When it comes to the length of a car, I don't think that 3,9'' makes that much of a difference.

[ECHOKnight2000]

i personally do not mind the 2012, will i trade in mine for it? prob not, i love mine.

the only part i am not impressed with is how long it is (or how long it looks), a huge part of getting my yaris is the fact that it will fit in my garage with a set of stairs and my snowblower and powerwasher behind it. with a longer car i would need to find another place for this stuff.... and the fact i can parallel park my car in the garage, close the door and wash my car by hand in mid winter is also something i love and cannot do on my moms camry....

The yaris is no longer a tiny car :(

I don't think the difference is too much. But I like small cars too. Of course definition of a "small" car is a Civic or Corolla when in reality they are near mid-size size. America, so sad.

[yaris2010RS]

The new one is exactly 10cm (3,9'') longer than the current one. When it comes to the length of a car, I don't think that 3,9'' makes that much of a difference.

10cm will make the difference of parking on the driveway or in the garage in my situation.....

[Kal-El]

10cm will make the difference of parking on the driveway or in the garage in my situation.....

A standard garage will easily fit a full size car. Seems like you need a new garage. :tongue:

[canadian_princess]

^off subj but i likey ur yarii

[yaris2010RS]

A standard garage will easily fit a full size car. Seems like you need a new garage. :tongue:

i have alot of junk behind my car plus a set of stairs. a longer car will need a new place to store my snowblower and junk. my moms camry parks next to my yaris and fits great with a tool box infront of it.

[WeeYari]

^off subj but i likey ur yarii

off subj, but fix your sig. 'JDM rear v morror'

[auxmike]

Let's size it up...

[auxmike]

The real deal!

[auxmike]

Back...

[auxmike]

Look at this poor '12!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB4_w6qUAsA&feature=player_embedded

[daf62757]

The silver one pictured above is only the most extreme option offered in Japan. The regular model pictured many times in other threads is just as toned down as the current model.

The sedan will certainly live on. It sells just as well as the LB even worldwide. Actually, I see a lot more sedans than LB's.


Maybe its what you are actually looking for, but I have seen more LBs than sedans.

[Kal-El]

Here's the European model which may more closely resemble what America gets. Looks good!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/TS5pL7SITkI/AAAAAAAAUz8/BpWyo-SdSAA/s1600/01.jpg

[NinjaPirate]

That Euro's front looks 10x better. Hope Australia gets that one as well.

[Red Horse]

Time to trade in?

[Dorkinheimer]

Does anybody know when this 2012 Yaris will hit the streets of Canada/US ?

[roxy1]

in addition to the upcoming chevy sonic, i was looking at the incoming kia rio and hyundai accent and i have to admit the new yaris is looking incredibly bland. the hyundai accent looks like it may be right around 41 mpg (us). the sonic, if nothing else, is going to be a blast to drive.

for me personally, the yaris is going to have to hit a home run in the mileage department to have some real appeal.


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/2012-chevrolet-sonic_100336905_m.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/2012_kia_rio_3_610x407.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb313/roxy84_photos/2012-hyundai-accent-5-door.jpg

[BluYrs]

IMO the one big selling point the Yaris has over the competition is its great reliability. The pedal-issues have not had such an impact on sales or image over here. The current model is at the top of its class in Europe and I'd be surprised if the new one would be any different in that aspect. Chevy still has a lot of proving to do in that department, but Hyundai/Kia have improved their reliability massively. Resale value-wise the Toyota still beats them hands down.

It's going to get interesting in this segment, even though Toyota has built itself an undeniable reputation with the Yaris.

[Dorkinheimer]

Some hyundais or Kias look better than Toyotas, but I would never exchange a Toyota for a Korean car.

So, when will the 2012 yaris be available in Canada?

[auxmike]

That Chevy is fugly.
The Korean cars are worth peanuts on trade after just a couple of years.
I want a reliable car with a name that gets RESPECT....

[ibanezjeepguy]

That Chevy is fugly. .

yo for real! :thumbup:

[Dave]

So, when will the 2012 yaris be available in Canada?

I think the new model year usually rolls out in September/October.

[Dorkinheimer]

Thanks Dave, but since this a new redesigned model, usually Toyota rolls them out a few months earlier. Hopefully they will do the same this time.

[birdman]

The dash was definitely influenced by the Fit but at least the Fit has an upper glove box where the Yaris eliminated both upper ones. The new cup holders wont keep drinks cool in summer or coffee warm in winter any more either. :(