New 07 Yaris S need advice on 18's and springs

[OgDogg]

I just bought a Yaris S 07. I'm about to buy some 18x7.5 rims on 215/35 tires. I need to know what to do to drop it. I don't want to drop it much, and my main concern is rubbing as this is my commuter car and my friends and I are heavyweights. I was thinking of going to the dealership to get the trd lowering springs. Do I need the shocks too or will just the springs do? I really want to make sure that it doesn't rub. So I want the strongest springs that won't compress enough for the tires to rub and I'm hoping I don't need the shock absorbers. Give me some advice and let me know what's up. Thanks.

[ChinoCharles]

You'll probably rub on 18's with a drop... especially if you've got girth.

Either smaller rims or no drop.

[PetersRedYaris]

TRD springs give the least drop (1.2 inches) and are supposedly the stiffest. For a commuter you might want to consider 17 or 16 inch wheels.
TRD springs CAN be used with stock struts and shocks.

[YarisPR]

I have TRD 18's and TRD lowering springs and it never rubs. But if you said that u got some heavy weigth frinds I highly recomend u to go with 17's and a drop. With 17 you can go with a bigger tire because 35 rubber kinda sucks for daily driving believe me.

Still 18's look great :biggrin:

[OgDogg]

I can't get talked out of 18's. I'm glad to hear there's no rubbing on yours though. Do you have it on 215/35 tires or 225/40's? I think I'm going to go with just the trd springs and see how it goes. I'm about 220 pounds and honestly there's never more then 1 or 2 ppl with me in the car. So hopefully I don't have big problems with rubbing. I only use this car for freeway driving so hopefully it's not an issue. On a second though... Do you think it would still have a chance of rubbing if I bought 18x7.0 rims instead of the 18x7.5?

[elsteverino889]

Trust me youll rub, I rub on my stocks when the car is full im 6 feet and 225 pounds and had the car with 4 other buddies and we rubbed on every bump

[jookybanana]

i have 18x7.5 and 215/35/18 rubber, droped on df210 springs and it rubbed slightly for the first couple of days, but now its gone, it will wear in, and i checked the fender liner and its looks fine, no holes or heavily worn out parts

if you go 18x7 it probably wont make a difference since you will still run 215/35 tires, unless you have 205 tires, but i havent seen any for 18" except for toyo t1-r

i'm not sure if weight (big guys) would make a big difference, but i still daily on 18" and drive lots of people and it hasnt been a problem, i think any lower than spring drop there will be some problems, like coil-overs low

[OgDogg]

i have 18x7.5 and 215/35/18 rubber, droped on df210 springs and it rubbed slightly for the first couple of days, but now its gone, it will wear in, and i checked the fender liner and its looks fine, no holes or heavily worn out parts

if you go 18x7 it probably wont make a difference since you will still run 215/35 tires, unless you have 205 tires, but i havent seen any for 18" except for toyo t1-r

i'm not sure if weight (big guys) would make a big difference, but i still daily on 18" and drive lots of people and it hasnt been a problem, i think any lower than spring drop there will be some problems, like coil-overs low

Thanks. Hearing your situation makes me think I'll be fine with the nf210's. I'm going to wait until my rims show up to make sure I still need to drop it though.

[FCP91]

I used 18"x7.5 42 w/ Spirit Springs 3mm spacers in the back. Only rub with 4-5 pass. (in the back right side only) *no spacers, no rubing!

[YarisGuy]

I'm pretty surprized to hear that so many of you guys are running 18s on such a small car. Wouldn't smaller wheels be more beneficial with better weight reduction and a better overall setup?

[Black Yaris]

I'm pretty surprized to hear that so many of you guys are running 18s on such a small car. Wouldn't smaller wheels be more beneficial with better weight reduction and a better overall setup?
yes it would be, but some people are more interested in looks than fuel economy or ride quality

[OgDogg]

yes it would be, but some people are more interested in looks than fuel economy or ride quality

18's with 215/35 tires are nearly the same size as the stock 15's on this car. Having bigger rims will just improve cornering and looks. If you get a set of racing 18's you might even improve fuel economy. I'm going to test my mpg before/after when my 18's get here next week. I'll be surprised if I lose much efficiency. The look of the car will far outweigh any minor decreases in fuel efficiency if there is any. Not to mention those of us who slap 18's on a Yaris are probably doing things to increase engine output anyway. My question is why not put 18's on a Yaris? After more carefully looking over the specs and talking with other custom Yaris owners, I sort of regret not going with 19's and no lowering kit.

[Black Yaris]

18's with 215/35 tires are nearly the same size as the stock 15's on this car. Having bigger rims will just improve cornering and looks. If you get a set of racing 18's you might even improve fuel economy. I'm going to test my mpg before/after when my 18's get here next week. I'll be surprised if I lose much efficiency. The look of the car will far outweigh any minor decreases in fuel efficiency if there is any. Not to mention those of us who slap 18's on a Yaris are probably doing things to increase engine output anyway. My question is why not put 18's on a Yaris? After more carefully looking over the specs and talking with other custom Yaris owners, I sort of regret not going with 19's and no lowering kit.

my question to you is, what are you on, and why ain't you sharing?
fact (1) is a 215/35 is slightly smaller than stock, to stay exactly stock diameter you would go with a 225-30-18....

fact (2) if you have a wheel, one in an 15 inch and one in 18 inch, exact same wheel only different sizes, the 18 will weigh more, unless you did find the one wheel manifacture that makes wheel out of a substance lighter than air, then I stand corrected, added weight decreases gas mileage

fact (3) a 225-50-15 will corner better than a 225-30-18, why you ask? side wall flex.... I will explain... To keep traction on the road during a high G turn the tire needs to flex to keep the contact patch to the road. A 225-30-18 has 1.5 inches less side wall than the 225-50-15 therefore has less flex in the sidewall, therefore can not corner as fast or as sharp as one with 225-50-15

Ask anyone who truely races they will tell you the same

16's on up on a Yaris, all show, no go

[graywolf_14]

Yea see I like the trd 18's other than the fact they are 18's. If they were 16-17's that would be sweet.

[cleong]

my question to you is, what are you on, and why ain't you sharing?
fact (1) is a 215/35 is slightly smaller than stock, to stay exactly stock diameter you would go with a 225-30-18....

fact (2) if you have a wheel, one in an 15 inch and one in 18 inch, exact same wheel only different sizes, the 18 will weigh more, unless you did find the one wheel manifacture that makes wheel out of a substance lighter than air, then I stand corrected, added weight decreases gas mileage

fact (3) a 225-50-15 will corner better than a 225-30-18, why you ask? side wall flex.... I will explain... To keep traction on the road during a high G turn the tire needs to flex to keep the contact patch to the road. A 225-30-18 has 1.5 inches less side wall than the 225-50-15 therefore has less flex in the sidewall, therefore can not corner as fast or as sharp as one with 225-50-15

Ask anyone who truely races they will tell you the same

16's on up on a Yaris, all show, no go

I agree with most points, except the point about sidewall flex. Most track cars run a good amount of negative camber to take tire flex and body roll into consideration. An optimally tuned track car (where I assume you will carry said high G turn speeds) would also have camber set to take into account the car's roll.

Saying that we'll run a higher aspect ratio to help increase the contact patch while cornering just means that you didn't have the camber set up to take that high G bend. It would flex to accomodate the roll...... up to a point.

Then it'd flop over.

A bigger rim means a car handles more precisely because there's less tire sidewall to flex. Which means that the contact patch is better maintained.

Running a footwear size more commonly seen on Porsches and Ferraris is stupid, I must say, but on the track, there are reasons to run big rims - to accomodate big brakes such as to run big brakes.

I use 195/55/15 V-rated tires, myself. I had the choice of going to 16 inch tires for just $50 more, but decided that I did not want to lose the fuel consumption nor labour the engine with more mass to turn. I got better rubber for the rims instead.

And to the threadstarter, if you are going to have to go with engine mods to gain the performance you've lost due to upsizing to 18 inch rims, you'd be right where you started, when the car was shod with 14 or 15 inch rims. A stock Yaris might beat you off the line, though it might not look good doing it. Performing those same mods on a Yaris with a set of lightweight 15s, or even stockies, would yield a true increase in performance and fuel efficiency.

And think of the small front disc rotor and brake looking so lost within the 18 inch rim, not to mention the drum-braked rear...... do you really want to show off drum-brakes?

[Notthy[Yaris/S]07]

i use tanabe NF 210 and not rub

[platypus]

advice on 18's? Don't get them. :thanks:

[spkrman]

I can't get talked out of 18's. I'm glad to hear there's no rubbing on yours though. Do you have it on 215/35 tires or 225/40's? I think I'm going to go with just the trd springs and see how it goes. I'm about 220 pounds and honestly there's never more then 1 or 2 ppl with me in the car. So hopefully I don't have big problems with rubbing. I only use this car for freeway driving so hopefully it's not an issue. On a second though... Do you think it would still have a chance of rubbing if I bought 18x7.0 rims instead of the 18x7.5?

hey! since when is 220 a "heavyweight"? :thumbup:

I guess horse jockeys are the only normal weight folks out there.

[graywolf_14]

Yeah I have been over 200 since 8th grade. Even when I was 17 benching 290 I was 214. Now that I am 20 I am around 220 right now since I do alot of physical stuff. I have always had a muscler body with um.. some protective padding.

[eTiMaGo]

Yeah I have been over 200 since 8th grade. Even when I was 17 benching 290 I was 214. Now that I am 20 I am around 220 right now since I do alot of physical stuff. I have always had a muscler body with um.. some protective padding.

plenty of protective padding here, specialized in lower abdomen impact :biggrin:

[YarisPR]

Whats the deal with not getting 18's :mad:
I ride on 18's and.....
My car looks better than most sedans i see
My drums can be seen but looks ain't affected
MPG loss big deal instead of 35 you get 32
Performance... Scion Xa, Xb, Honda FIT, Corolla '97 all owned and all where in stock wheels
Cornering... i have taken curves at 82 mph and not even my VW passat 4Motion handled so well
Ride... Feels very stable

Conclusion .... get 18's if you want them if not buy whatever you want is your car and your money :thumbsup:

[cleong]

Fair enough that its his car and his freedom to do whatever he wants to it.

I'm just laying it out for him - for looks, he is going to sacrifice everything else:

Ride comfort
Fuel economy
Performance
Cost (in tire replacement)

As I said, your choice.

[Black Yaris]

Those of you running big wheels obviously do not live in the nothern States that use salt on the roads in the winter.... all I have to say is
Salt+Road=POTHOLES
Potholes+low pros=lots of extra $$$

[YarisPR]

Those of you running big wheels obviously do not live in the nothern States that use salt on the roads in the winter.... all I have to say is
Salt+Road=POTHOLES
Potholes+low pros=lots of extra $$$


You obviously haven't visit Puerto Rico :biggrin: Believe me if there is a place hard to drive its here. Pothholes is the least you will worry about :biggrin:
Example My sister has a Isuzu Rodeo and Isuzu had to moddified their warranty and mantainance because PR is consider "Extreme Conditions" .
But then again you just have to get used to it and in few weeks you will earn a degree on pothology :biggrin:

[OgDogg]

my question to you is, what are you on, and why ain't you sharing?
fact (1) is a 215/35 is slightly smaller than stock, to stay exactly stock diameter you would go with a 225-30-18....

fact (2) if you have a wheel, one in an 15 inch and one in 18 inch, exact same wheel only different sizes, the 18 will weigh more, unless you did find the one wheel manifacture that makes wheel out of a substance lighter than air, then I stand corrected, added weight decreases gas mileage

fact (3) a 225-50-15 will corner better than a 225-30-18, why you ask? side wall flex.... I will explain... To keep traction on the road during a high G turn the tire needs to flex to keep the contact patch to the road. A 225-30-18 has 1.5 inches less side wall than the 225-50-15 therefore has less flex in the sidewall, therefore can not corner as fast or as sharp as one with 225-50-15

Ask anyone who truely races they will tell you the same

16's on up on a Yaris, all show, no go

My 18's on 215/35 have about a 1/2 inch more diameter then the stock 15's I have now. Basically, no difference. Also, the racing 18's I bought are slightly lighter then the stocks. I don't agree that you say handling decreases with a bigger rim. Anyone who's ever driven a car with 18's-20's on it will tell you that handling increases with a bigger rim. But that's just my take. I think big rims get a bad rep from racers... But like dude said. To each his own.

I guess I'm just used to seeing people who are 5'8" 150 pounds. Sorry to all the "heavyweights" out there. I had no idea there were so many of us 6'3" 210+ fools driving the Yaris.

[Go4th]

I have TRD 18's and TRD lowering springs and it never rubs. But if you said that u got some heavy weigth frinds I highly recomend u to go with 17's and a drop. With 17 you can go with a bigger tire because 35 rubber kinda sucks for daily driving believe me.

Still 18's look great :biggrin:

did you put the lowering spings that say they are for the hatchback on your sedan? i was wondering if that would work or not.

[YarisPR]

did you put the lowering spings that say they are for the hatchback on your sedan? i was wondering if that would work or not.

No I got the TRD Lowering springs for the sedan.

[johnnyfive]

did you put the lowering spings that say they are for the hatchback on your sedan? i was wondering if that would work or not.

any springs for the hatch will work on the sedan

[Go4th]

Do you have a larger picture YarisPR? :smile:

[YarisPR]

Do you have a larger picture YarisPR? :smile:

I got this ones... do they help?

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos009.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos003.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h132/angelo011/fotos004.jpg

[Go4th]

I got this ones... do they help?



oooweee.. That looks very, very, very good!!! I knew it was looking good!! :drool:

[YarisPR]

Thanks:biggrin:

[jonr0613]

looks pretty nice with 18s:thumbsup:

[qpid]

I guess I'm just used to seeing people who are 5'8" 150 pounds. Sorry to all the "heavyweights" out there. I had no idea there were so many of us 6'3" 210+ fools driving the Yaris.

<-6'3" 220lbs and my wife is almost 6'

[Go4th]

I don’t know when they are going on though. I have to get tires and I am out of money :frown: enjoy the pic.. thanks for your pics YarisPR that verified my choice of 18" rims instead of anything smaller.. :thumbsup:

[ChinoCharles]

Nice rims... what model? I'm too lazy to search.

[Go4th]

Nice rims... what model? I'm too lazy to search.

Thanks!

Konig Prophet 18"x7.5 Opal in color. Will be wraped with 215/35/18..

[ChinoCharles]

Where and how much? Sorry, should have included that in the first round of questions. Hehe.

[Go4th]

Where and how much? Sorry, should have included that in the first round of questions. Hehe.

Check my garage. I tell all there. :thumbup:

[YarisPR]

Great choice :thumbsup:

[OgDogg]

Here's mine on 18's with 215/35's. No rub. I haven't lowered it yet though.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/ogdogg/OgYaris.jpg

[Ryosuke]

Nice Wheels! excelent choise.
This is my yaris on 18" riding on 215/40 zr18 tires. No drop yet and no rub. The ride is good and is fine with pot holes and bad streets.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4879/reunion71wd.jpg

[Go4th]

Here's mine on 18's with 215/35's. No rub. I haven't lowered it yet though.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/ogdogg/OgYaris.jpg

Nice! That white looks great! I was kinda nervous if my wheels are going to blend in with my car color. But your white wheels and white car does not do that at all! Ill just have to see with the darker color though..

Nice Wheels! excelent choise.
This is my yaris on 18" riding on 215/40 zr18 tires. No drop yet and no rub. The ride is good and is fine with pot holes and bad streets.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4879/reunion71wd.jpg

Sweeet. Great looking wheels! I am tempted to putting 215/40/18 on my car instead of 215/35/18... I have time to think about it while I save up for the tires.

Nice pics guys.. Thanks!

[Yaris_PR]

I have 215/40/18 too, they feel great, the only problem is the price $$$

[Go4th]

I put the wheels on. Could not stand it! No Money?! No problem.. Who needs it. There is credit at Discount Tire 6mos same as cash. So I thought Just Do It! So I did. Yokohama Parada Spec-2 215/35ZR-18 .... Could not wait to show my pal's here on YW..
Springs go on next.

[YarisPR]

Put the wheels on. Could not stand it! Money?! Who needs it. There is credit at Discount Tire 6mos same as cash. Just do it! So I did. Yokohama Parada Spec-2 215/35ZR-18 .... Could not wait to show my pal's here on YW.. So here it is, the two best pics I can get at night. I will take more tomorrow in the daylight (like a normal person who has a camera would) and replace these. But here are some for tonight and tomorrow untill I get home from work. enjoy..


Loookkkkss great!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

cant wait to see how it would look with the drop :drool:

[sf180th]

I cant wait to see at as well, I have 18's with the same size tire and am unsure how low I can go.

[gamita]

Hi. I have 225/40 R18 on my 18" TRD. I live in Mexico where the streets are in very bad condition, The wheels came with 215/35 ZR18 but I had to change them and now the comfort is much,,much better!

[smofskra]

I would like to ask, What would the best overall drop with 18s on a sedan be? Pics are always a plus.