have problem ! Installed tokico/eiback springs

[annn]

I installed tokico hts reds and eiback pro kit springs ....the hats sit up way to high ? they were flush ? how can i fix this ? also front is a bit lower than rear is this normal or a issue with hats ? thanks


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http://i52.tinypic.com/x4hveg.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/fveaa1.jpg

[annn]

No noise on test ride and car is super tight...car has all the gtspec under braces,hts tokico reds,prokit springs,but the silly hats ruin it all ...as its just not right..imo


I thought the pro kits were 1.0" drop front and rear...its a bit more than 1 inch but i like it overall !

its just the hats that have me concerned...my wife plans to race this car next year for fun and i cant do things half ass...someone must know whats up with this issue ?

[DARK AGE 53]

there's been a lot of threads about this , most guys here say it's normal but I disagree with that....... I don't remember anyone saying why it happens.

[WeeYari]

You entered a post in a recent thread http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32251 and then turn around and create a new identical thread!

What new answers do you really expect to find?

[annn]

This NOT normal is a mistake and I going to find out what it is... The other thread was full of mis info....their is no way that a 1/2 inch of up and down play is "normal" if the car is lifted the cap/hat goes to normal flush postion .

When not lifited hat is up as in pics... I think it maybe that it's just not truly tight ... I am looking into it ...

Don't belive that this is correct... It allows play in the strut and well the factory is not going to do this .

Before I started my caps were flush and tight to car strut tower, after mod they are not flush... I made some mistake it's NOT correct !

[WeeYari]

Did you look at the picture of my top hat that is linked to in the other thread? This was taken before any suspension mods were done. You did not make a mistake.

I've subsequently lowered vehicle for summer and raised it again for winter. Everything gets torqued to spec and double checked. The gap always remains.

[DARK AGE 53]

annn, I totally agree, if this is considered normal then it sucks. I'm not saying there's not a problem here but let's say it is what it is, I've got a possibility for a fix. What about having a slightly thicker machined piece of aluminum ( like a big washer ) to fill the gap, with a slightly thicker piece it will allow the top hat to fit tight against tower. Just a thought.

[thebarber]

its normal to have a gap.

ive swapped my suspension in and out a half dozen times for different setups and the gap is ALWAYS there

[annn]

I thought about a few large washers to fill the "gap" ...

that gap allows a hammer effect it can not be normal.

I think the problem is caused by to much preload on the spring assy... I am calling eibach and a few other "experts" I will find the answer.

[WeeYari]

The other thread was full of mis info....

And what exactly is the mis info you speak of?

Before I started my caps were flush and tight to car strut tower, after mod they are not flush...

I would really love to see a picture of them sitting flush. Do you have any old engine bay shots?

I've viewed some of your other posts looking for some. The pictures you have of your hood scoop airflow mod appear to be cropped at the sides. Do you have those original pics?

[marlondog]

Don't worry about it! I've had a couple of springs changed out on both stock and Tokico shocks,I noticed right away that the top hats on the shocks weren't flushed with the engine bay. Your car will be fine. If you have an obsession with things being "perfect" on this car, you will spend too much money and time worrying about stupid shit. Believe me, I know.

[annn]

I should have a bay pic... I will look .. Good thought

[kou]

Normal thats how its supposed to be,the weight of the car keeps the top of the strut in place.The rubber mount underneath is formed to fit tight.Be happy you dont have a VW Golf the strut tops are always pointing in different directions.

[annn]

ok i think we can kill this.....i called eibach,a guy a know who has done susp work for years and tokico..

The best way to say whats going on is that,when the yaris is stock and has no weight in car the "hats" are flush but when weight is added to the car,i.e. persons... the hats raise.

A lowering spring has the same effect as added weight, the car lowers,and the hat raises.

so to 100% kill this .....if a person took a pic of a 100% stock yaris and the hats are flush with no weight in car and then took a pic with 2 people in car the hats should be raised....thats the pic proof imo to prove whats normal.


I never thought anyone was right one way or another... it is a weird system IMO still...but THANK YOU ALL....MAYBE WE CAN KILL this yaris mystery.

I guess the newer camaro guys have this same issue also....

[WeeYari]

Oops, my bad...

I completely forgot about the six 50lb bags of potatoes that were in my car when I took the top hat pic when 100% stock. Toyo dealer also had 2 crash test dummies sitting in the showroom vehicles. Forgot about that as well.

It all sounds good in theory, but just is not the case with the Yaris.

Carefull, your close to spilling your own mis info now.

[annn]

Oops, my bad...

I completely forgot about the six 50lb bags of potatoes that were in my car when I took the top hat pic when 100% stock. Toyo dealer also had 2 crash test dummies sitting in the showroom vehicles. Forgot about that as well.

It all sounds good in theory, but just is not the case with the Yaris.

Carefull, your close to spilling your own mis info now.


Not all true bro.... Their still is the fact that when I started this mod the hats was flush... I am the one who did the work and both were so tight that the Nubs were embedded in the paint...so explain why then were my hats flush ????

[Maitre_Te_Te]

there's been a lot of threads about this , most guys here say it's normal but I disagree with that....... I don't remember anyone saying why it happens.

I have this gap on my car and I have compare with a brand new car (I work for Toyota) and a new car have this gap. This is not a trouble, this is ok.

[thebarber]

Not all true bro.... Their still is the fact that when I started this mod the hats was flush... I am the one who did the work and both were so tight that the Nubs were embedded in the paint...so explain why then were my hats flush ????

was the car in the air when you had "no gap"?

[annn]

Good ?? Maybe it was up ! Man now that really makes me think....:redface:

[Maitre_Te_Te]

was the car in the air when you had "no gap"?

When the car is in the air, the gap disapear because de pound of suspension on the (head of shock) cause that the gap disapear! Sory for my english ;)

[Midnight Drifter]

You've got the same gap that I have on my factory setup. That's just how it is.

[Shinare]

If it helps, heres my stock car parked in my garage:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4264/strut1.jpg

[annn]

Yes excellent pic... Thanks

[big lo]

I've change my suspension a sh!tload of times its normal, also the rear will need to break in and the car will level out in a few weeks

[Altitude]

Puts my mind at ease. I've been worrying about this for a while too.

[bail_w]

It is normal, i confirmed with my stock 07 yaris hb.

[annn]

Thanks ... The more info the less a future person may stress !