17 inch wheels with stock suspension

[Soni]

Is there anyone whose willing to post a pic of their Yaris with aftermarket wheels, but are still using the stock suspension?

I'm planning on getting 17" wheels, but I don't have plans right now for getting it lowered at all soon. I just want to see what it might look like without the new suspension.

Or if you have any advice for wheel and tire shopping, that would be much appreciated as well. I just don't want huge gaps in between the wheels and the body.


Edit: Thanks everyone for sending in the pictures and giving advice. I'll definitely get the wheels first. Those are priority since I've been procrastinating with getting them. After that, I'm getting the coilovers. :)

[Betrivent]

It will ride like a 4x4 and look slightly ridiculous..

[ilikerice]

aggreed with ^^ that guy... i personally feel that ALL cars if plan on getting rims, should drop it first.. a car with rims thats not lowered looks wierd, but a lowered car still on hupcaps.. still looks good.. use that money that ur buying rims and get a set of springs or coilovers (perferably coilovers cuz u can adjust hieght to ur likings). unless of course u are buying the rims cuz u need new tires.. save ur money and buy some tires for the steelies and buy the suspension first..
this is what i would do if it was my car.. but do what u wish, it is your car, u drive it and mod it the way u like it

[MadMax]

Horseshit! I run 17" wheels with no lowering springs and it looks pretty damn good!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/M2Repsol/Yaris/IMG_0780-1.jpg

As for the comparisons with 4x4s, maybe compared to the weak dick ones they have up north they are similar; but down here in Texas we have real 4x4s and there is no comparison...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/M2Repsol/Yaris/IMG_0064.jpg

Get the right offset and a set of 17s will look great on your Yaris!

Cheers! M2

[TKO]

The wheel gap is bigger on the yaris! LOL

[brendan]

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/waynadearlove/Photo0224.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/waynadearlove/Photo0225.jpg

[jekqmb]

Holy Wheel gap batman, both those Yari have massive wheel gap. Drop before rims!!!

[MadMax]

Holy Wheel gap batman, both those Yari have massive wheel gap. Drop before rims!!!

Sorry, but I like not fearing every pothole and speedbump that I come across, nor do I relish the thought of rubbing every time I try to turn a corner.

Plus, not all Yaris owners are kids; some of us don't want to look like all the dropped Civics and Neons bouncing down the roads, fart cans making more noise than power, blasting distorted hip-hop, hats on sideways and pimp daddy sunglasses looking like a gay version of Eva Longoria!

But if you want to look like someone squashed your car, than that's your choice!

[MadMax]

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/waynadearlove/Photo0224.jpg

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz214/waynadearlove/Photo0225.jpg

How anyone could criticize such a sweet Yaris is beyond me! Nice car, brendan! :headbang:

Cheers! M2

[Freedan]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc114/Sepyuff/DSC00795.jpg

I'm rocking a set of 17" Enki and have the MI lowering springs installed on Stock struts/shocks. I can say that I have no problems with rubbing when I do low speed turns (with my wheels maxed out), but I do have rubbing if I take a right turn hard, but I don't have any problems with rubbing if I take a left turn hard when I don't have passengers.

Will be getting some Tokico Blues and maybe a fender roll if the Tokicos don't solve the rub issue completely.

And no, I don't wear my hat sideways or backwards. I rock a beanie!!! j/k. :laugh:

[jekqmb]

How can someone roll cheap wheels and stock ride height in a Yaris? At least put some money into the car and give it a clean look, sorry im not a kid, i own a house, own my car, manage an auto repair shop, etc and i drive another car as well.... I can afford nice parts. I dont have a fart can on my car,nor do i have neons, i just know what looks good, and those cars do not without a drop. So your saying all the Yaris owners slammed on coilovers are bouncing down the road like kids? :iono:

[jekqmb]

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc114/Sepyuff/DSC00795.jpg

I'm rocking a set of 17" Enki and have the MI lowering springs installed on Stock struts/shocks. I can say that I have no problems with rubbing when I do low speed turns (with my wheels maxed out), but I do have rubbing if I take a right turn hard, but I don't have any problems with rubbing if I take a left turn hard when I don't have passengers.

Will be getting some Tokico Blues and maybe a fender roll if the Tokicos don't solve the rub issue completely.

And no, I don't wear my hat sideways or backwards. I rock a beanie!!! j/k. :laugh:

See this car looks good, a clean drop and clean wheels! Looks great compared to the other 2 cars without a drop.

[slow.yaris]

Sorry, but I like not fearing every pothole and speedbump that I come across, nor do I relish the thought of rubbing every time I try to turn a corner.

Plus, not all Yaris owners are kids; some of us don't want to look like all the dropped Civics and Neons bouncing down the roads, fart cans making more noise than power, blasting distorted hip-hop, hats on sideways and pimp daddy sunglasses looking like a gay version of Eva Longoria!

But if you want to look like someone squashed your car, than that's your choice!

Wow.

First of all, lowering a car is not as dangerous for potholes as having huge ass wheels with rubber band tires. Also, nobody that I know of lowered on 15s rubs, its when they go to 17s.

Second, the stock yaris bounces a lot more than my car, and blingy big ass chrome wheels are much more in line with the "sideways hat hip hop" scene than a lowered yaris. Lowering increases looks AND performance. Your rims rob performance, both acceleration and handling, and are solely for looks, which are obviously objective.

I prefer not to have roller skate wheel gap, and to be able to control my car in more than 10 mph winds.

PS - your real 4x4 is what flips on the trail and gets pulled out by a stock tundra, if it makes it to the trail at all without flipping or the chassis separating from the frame in an accident... oh, and there's douchebags that like flipping rocks into peoples windshields and sacrificing their own safety as well as anyone else they hit in an accident all over the world, not just TX.


@other guy - 4 exhaust pipes... 'nuff said.

[MadMax]

How can someone roll cheap wheels and stock ride height in a Yaris? At least put some money into the car and give it a clean look, sorry im not a kid, i own a house, own my car, manage an auto repair shop, etc and i drive another car as well.... I can afford nice parts. I dont have a fart can on my car,nor do i have neons, i just know what looks good, and those cars do not without a drop. So your saying all the Yaris owners slammed on coilovers are bouncing down the road like kids? :iono:

No, I am saying that criticizing somebody for not dropping their Yaris is immature and in poor taste!

The OP didn't ask for opinions on drops, he/she stated they wanted pics of Yarii with 17" wheels with no drops.

[jekqmb]

I know, lol... i was at the shop all day bored so i chimed in. Your car looks good man, I think with a subtle drop it would look very good! I like all Yaris, the 2 cars with 17's look good, dont know about quad tips on the red one though.

[MadMax]

Wow.

First of all, lowering a car is not as dangerous for potholes as having huge ass wheels with rubber band tires. Also, nobody that I know of lowered on 15s rubs, its when they go to 17s.

Second, the stock yaris bounces a lot more than my car, and blingy big ass chrome wheels are much more in line with the "sideways hat hip hop" scene than a lowered yaris. Lowering increases looks AND performance. Your rims rob performance, both acceleration and handling, and are solely for looks, which are obviously objective.

I prefer not to have roller skate wheel gap, and to be able to control my car in more than 10 mph winds.

PS - your real 4x4 is what flips on the trail and gets pulled out by a stock tundra, if it makes it to the trail at all without flipping or the chassis separating from the frame in an accident... oh, and there's douchebags that like flipping rocks into peoples windshields and sacrificing their own safety as well as anyone else they hit in an accident all over the world, not just TX.


@other guy - 4 exhaust pipes... 'nuff said.

Dude, you drive a sedan....'nuff said!

:laughabove:

[slow.yaris]

Dude, you drive a sedan....'nuff said!

:laughabove:

Its cool, ignoring my points is as good for me as you saying "I'm wrong and can't refute anything you said, my rims are goofy and make my car slow"

[WeeYari]

Thread shot to Hell :thumbdown:

No wonder the OP hasn't come back.

[brendan]

OK, this guy was looking for 17'' without drop,I gave it to him, and now my car is being said off, wow what a forum

Oh and I like my 4 pipes very much,not loud at all infact it is the same box, I only split the pipe, only for the look

''nuff said''. . .

Thanks

[33OH]

Is there anyone whose willing to post a pic of their Yaris with aftermarket wheels, but are still using the stock suspension?

I'm planning on getting 17" wheels, but I don't have plans right now for getting it lowered at all soon. I just want to see what it might look like without the new suspension.

Or if you have any advice for wheel and tire shopping, that would be much appreciated as well. I just don't want huge gaps in between the wheels and the body.

The wheel gap will be the same no matter what size wheels you run, as long as you run proper tire sizing. 17's will bring the wheel gap to your attention more, yes, but the gap will remain the same as what it is now.

[33OH]

Also, nobody that I know of lowered on 15s rubs, its when they go to 17s.


This really has nothing to do with the wheel height. Running proper tire size, the diameter will be the same. It mainly occurs because when wheel diameter goes up, the width tends to go up as well. For example, you will never see a 17x5.5 but 15x5.5 is more common. Also, offsets play into this as well.

But you can lower a car on large wheels without rubbing if you run proper tire size and get a higher offset wheel. A 17x7 +45 would not rub with a drop from any lowering spring.

BTW - I've never rubbed on either set of 17's I've owned (17x7 +43 and 17x7 +40) but I rubbed like crazy on my 15x7 +19 MOMO's.

[33OH]

And finally, wheel gap with a 15" wheel and stock suspension:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/poisonherlungs/Yaris/062008_234200.jpg

[MadMax]

Its cool, ignoring my points is as good for me as you saying "I'm wrong and can't refute anything you said, my rims are goofy and make my car slow"

Well, since I have to spell it out for you...you didn't make any points, so there was nothing to refute!

But you can continue to believe you "schooled" someone who has probably been driving longer than you've been alive! :rolleyes: Now go away and let the adults talk!

Brendan, I really like your car; and would much rather drive it than some lame sedan! :bellyroll:

And 33OH, I don't think that's correct, as if you compare the picture of the car with 15" wheels to mine you will see that the gap is significantly smaller on my car. It has more to do with offset than it does wheel size.

[Tylermayer]

17 motegi rims on stock then i dropped it 2

[slow.yaris]

And 33OH, I don't think that's correct, as if you compare the picture of the car with 15" wheels to mine you will see that the gap is significantly smaller on my car. It has more to do with offset than it does wheel size.

The ignorance continues. Offset and wheel gap are on different planes. Wheel/tire size and wheel gap are on the same plane.

[xbgod]

You guys are brutal to each other. If the dude likes the gap...........Who cares? it's his ride. There are so many combinations to achive a certian look out there and that's what makes us all different. You can virtually run what ever tire/whell combo you want with the right suspension set-up.

I don't know mabey one of you should do a killer JDM set-up with some killer camber-offset and tuck those wheels a little as well.

Oh, but you'll need more than some cheap ass springs. Perhaps some Double adjustable coil-overs and camber plates. Now were talking about getting a real agresive look. Mabey get some JIC Majic , Megan, K-Sport or some other bad ass way to truley adjust your ride height. And then hey, run what ever tire you want...........because it won't matter, you can adjust it to your likeing.

But hey this is just my opinon.

Enjoy arguing

XBG

[33OH]

Well, since I have to spell it out for you...you didn't make any points, so there was nothing to refute!

But you can continue to believe you "schooled" someone who has probably been driving longer than you've been alive! :rolleyes: Now go away and let the adults talk!

Brendan, I really like your car; and would much rather drive it than some lame sedan! :bellyroll:

And 33OH, I don't think that's correct, as if you compare the picture of the car with 15" wheels to mine you will see that the gap is significantly smaller on my car. It has more to do with offset than it does wheel size.

The gap is more significant because the tire size is smaller than yours. 195/50/15.

[33OH]

Well, since I have to spell it out for you...you didn't make any points, so there was nothing to refute!

But you can continue to believe you "schooled" someone who has probably been driving longer than you've been alive! :rolleyes: Now go away and let the adults talk!

Brendan, I really like your car; and would much rather drive it than some lame sedan! :bellyroll:

And 33OH, I don't think that's correct, as if you compare the picture of the car with 15" wheels to mine you will see that the gap is significantly smaller on my car. It has more to do with offset than it does wheel size.

And it has nothing to do with offset, which is how far the hub mounting surface is from the face of the wheel. Aka backspacing.

[xbgod]

Now this looks BAD-ASS

[Soni]

Horseshit! I run 17" wheels with no lowering springs and it looks pretty damn good!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/M2Repsol/Yaris/IMG_0780-1.jpg

As for the comparisons with 4x4s, maybe compared to the weak dick ones they have up north they are similar; but down here in Texas we have real 4x4s and there is no comparison...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c209/M2Repsol/Yaris/IMG_0064.jpg

Get the right offset and a set of 17s will look great on your Yaris!

Cheers! M2

Thank you soooo much for showing. I had my doubts about not getting lowering springs, but after seeing this, I'm totally inspired. Thanks again!!! Very helpful.

[matthewai]

Holy Wheel gap batman,...

AHAHHA so funny

[matthewai]

I'm totally inspired.

wait inspired to get them or not get them?

[Soni]

Thread shot to Hell :thumbdown:

No wonder the OP hasn't come back.

Sorry, I actually never forgot about this thread. I just wanted to wait couple days until I was sure that someone posted some pics. I also just had other stuff to do. That's all. I'm also very, very appreciative of how helpful everyone has been. I know now that coilovers are definitely a good idea to get, but in the meantime, 17's with the stock suspension actually doesn't look to bad in my opinion.

[Soni]

wait inspired to get them or not get them?

I'm inspired to get the 17's first. (I'm siding with those who are using the stock suspension with aftermarket wheels)

But I'm definitely lowering them afterwards.

[matthewai]

biggs

[MadMax]

Now this looks BAD-ASS

Really? I think it looks ridiculous, but I live in the land of Mexican lowriders and there's nothing more amusing as watching them bottom out when going over a speed bump! That thing would self-destruct if driven like that on roads around here!

And Soni, I had thought about lowering mine for a while now, but I just don't see the need. I like the way my car looks as it is, it handles great and if anything, I am concerned about rubbing. Dropping it a inch or so really won't make that much difference, and I suspect the handling gains are nominal (and imaginary in some cases) if at all.

Cheers! M2

[33OH]

There is a major difference in handling, but if you don't drive spirited then it isn't a necessary mod. Also, if your speedbumps and pot holes on the road are that big to destroy the bottom end of a car lowered 1.5" more, I definitely wouldn't be lowering anytime soon either. Maybe throwing on a lift kit.

M2 - your tires look beefy, you running 205/45/17? I believe that's why your wheel gap is less. Looks good for not lowered.

[slow.yaris]

And Soni, I had thought about lowering mine for a while now, but I just don't see the need. I like the way my car looks as it is, it handles great and if anything, I am concerned about rubbing. Dropping it a inch or so really won't make that much difference, and I suspect the handling gains are nominal (and imaginary in some cases) if at all.

lol ya, the stock yaris handles great, for a tuna boat.

How you have almost 2000 posts here, and haven't seen the hundreds of people from casual drivers, to those who race in auto-x, to professional racers(see jason@sportscar) all post about how much better the car handles with lowering springs, is beyond me. But then again you still don't understand offset...


@xbg - my cheap ass springs and shocks/struts are almost as much as a megan coilover set, and I've seen more people resell their megans in less than 6 months for "whatever reason" than keep them.. Not everyone needs a spine compressing ride on a DD - I'm sure you got mad money flowin fo' the chiropractor though.

[xbgod]

Hey, I don't really care how you have your car look. I get more amusement out of watching you guys argue over something so ridiculis.

My car is very stiff and handles quite well. As far as the Megans go there are only so many ways to skin a cat. I think you find more people get rid of that kind of suspension because they cant find the right person to set up such an adjustable set up. You can't just drop off a car like mine to a local allignment rack and say here you go. They'll never get it right. And unless you've been a machinist like me and understand metals, you'd realize the Megans are made out 6061T-6 just like K-Sport, Tein and so fourth. Also most of your springs are made by Eibach and they supply most of the strut companies anyways. If it wasn't for such a great deal from the guys at Megan and there Customer support I would of more than likely held out for JIC Majic. But no matter most of the trick to any coil-over is in the valving and have been manufacturing double adjustable struts and shocks for Aerospace Components for quite some time I can tell you that the Megans are made quite well and can take the abuse. Should they fail then I'll cross that bridge. But since My car set up perfect with them I doubt I'll have issues anytime soon.

And if your worried about your shitty roads and pot holes (if this applies to you) then move the fuck-out of the gheto and move to a place where you can drive something nice. OH Shit I forgot you drive a Yaris and it's more than likely your D/D. Mind you I'm not knocking the car I'm knocking the cheap ass that can't get there head out of their ass. "Shit I use a XB to go fast in"

Go to the Chiropractor ? Is that the best you can come up with? Don't hate the player as they say, hate the game. My car is a toy, I don't need to drive it. I don't make car payments on my hobby. Your goals and mine are completely different.

But hey it's amusing to watch you get so heated over rims and ride heigths

XBG

[Red Horse]

people don't look at your wheel, they look at your face.

[CAyaris]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s54/s10bmx/NIGHTLIGHTRIMS.jpg

[mouvoi]

I just got 205/45r17 rims on my echo and I have to say it looks weird from the back. if you look at it from the size and front it looks great but when you look at it from the back you notice that a drop is probably a good idea lol