Toyota Yaris handbrake does not work when cruise control is on

[mescalito2]

Hello there!
My Toyota Yaris 2007 handbrake does not work when cruise control is on.

Am I the only one with that problem?
thanks!

[cali yaris]

if you're driving along without cruise control (but with your foot on the gas), how well does it work then?

[Astroman]

Why the hell would you want to use the hand brake while using cruise control???

[CTScott]

If you are thinking that the handbrake should cancel cruise, like the foot brake does - It does not.

[johnny_vitz]

Why the hell would you want to use the hand brake while using cruise control???

lol x2

[frownonfun]

define "work"

[bkndacn]

I concur with Astroman : why the he'll would you want it to work?!

[mescalito2]

Why the hell would you want to use the hand brake while using cruise control???

because I want to stop. A break is a break! it always should stop your car no matter what.

[Chuck G]

lol x2

Handbrake + Cruise Control = Good Times!!

you guys are missing out!! :smile:

[mescalito2]

define "work"

frownonfun thanks for you reply. I think I expressed wrong myself. What I mean is: when the cruise control is on and then I use the handbrake the car indeed slows down because the brake works, but the cruise control does not deactivated, therefor the cruise control system detect that the car is slowing down and the engine increase the revolutions to keep the speed up (accelerates). The conclusion is that the handbrake works but the cruise control system tries to keep the speed up therefore the car accelerates even more when the handbrake is on and that is DANGEROUS.

Some people should ask "why don't u use the food brake", and yes of course that is normal... but imagine in case of an hard accident if you push down the "food brake" it will injure bad your foot (that happened to me in the past).

At the end a brake is a brake it should ALWAYS deactivate the cruise control system no matter what.

Thanks!

[CTScott]

That's what I thought you were trying to say. The emergency brake is just that - an emergency mechanical backup to the hydraulic brakes. I would suspect that if you did some research, that very few if any cars with cruise have the e-brake as a tertiary cancel for the cruise control.

[JumpmanYaris]

What are you trying to do ? drift in snow? lol

[MadMax]

because I want to stop. A break is a break! it always should stop your car no matter what.

Might try using the brake instead! :thumbsup:

And nothing personal here, but is this your first car? You shouldn't be using your handbrake for anything other than keeping the car in place when its parked or in an emergency when your hydraulic brakes have failed. It is not meant to normally slow or stop the car, and excessive use can make it inoperable if you ever really do need it in an emergency!

And I don't think it is abnormal for the handbrake to not disengage the cruise control. I will try it in my Jeep just to confirm that it is the same way.

but imagine in case of an hard accident if you push down the "food brake" it will injure bad your foot (that happened to me in the past).

And I don't have a clue as to what you are talking about here. What's a food brake? Do you mean the brake pedal you depress with your foot? If so, are you trying to say that you've injured your foot and cannot push it down far enough to stop the car? If so, then you really shouldn't be driving in that impaired physical condition...

[Altitude]

You shouldn't be using your handbrake for anything other than keeping the car in place when its parked or in an emergency when your hydraulic brakes have failed.

The popularity of racing games and certain unmentionable movies have created a generation of bad drivers.

[Yaross]

Sirs,

my opinion only, I think mescalito2 has brought an interesting point. we love our yaris so much that we should protect it from bad drivers.

i would really like sir CTScott to verify this, we can get a signal from the parking brake (hand brake / e-brake) switch and tap this to the clutch switch for M/T or park/neutral switch for A/T to cancel cruise control if engage.

you can check it out on the electric wiring diagram of the 2007 manual page 105.

[Vinceb]

The parking brake does output some kind of signal, the light on your dash turns on when you raise the lever because it's pressing on a limit switch (probably grounding it or lifting a ground). you would need to tap into this wire, and then splice it onto the same line that comes off your "normal brake" that is going to the cruise module (for the purpose of canceling cruise). You would also want to put a diode in between the 2 of them so you don't back-feed the signal. grab a multi meter and check to see what the signal is - won't be a mod that i'll be doing any time soon.

[CTScott]

Sirs,

my opinion only, I think mescalito2 has brought an interesting point. we love our yaris so much that we should protect it from bad drivers.

i would really like sir CTScott to verify this, we can get a signal from the parking brake (hand brake / e-brake) switch and tap this to the clutch switch for M/T or park/neutral switch for A/T to cancel cruise control if engage.

you can check it out on the electric wiring diagram of the 2007 manual page 105.

All you would have to do is to join the output of the e-brake switch with that of the brake switch. Still, I contest that it is the wrong thing to do. Cruise control can be canceled by hitting the stalk or by tapping the brake. Your right hand should be on the wheel, where it is in close proximity to the stalk, rather than over by the e-brake.

Pulling the e-brake while driving at cruising speed is ludicrous and is far more likely to result in a serious crash. If the OP has a physical impairment that prohibits he/she from using the brake pedal, he/she should have his/her car properly adapted with hand controls, rather than putting other drivers at risk.

[MadMax]

The popularity of racing games and certain unmentionable movies have created a generation of bad drivers.

An excellent observation, and one I need to think about considering I have a 13-yr-old who soon will be driving (and is already driving my Jeep offroad) and who is also a heavy gamer. However, luckily he has not shown any bad habits as the result of his video gaming.

All you would have to do is to join the output of the e-brake switch with that of the brake switch. Still, I contest that it is the wrong thing to do. Cruise control can be canceled by hitting the stalk or by tapping the brake. Your right hand should be on the wheel, where it is in close proximity to the stalk, rather than over by the e-brake.

Pulling the e-brake while driving at cruising speed is ludicrous and is far more likely to result in a serious crash. If the OP has a physical impairment that prohibits he/she from using the brake pedal, he/she should have his/her car properly adapted with hand controls, rather than putting other drivers at risk.

Also an excellent point, if the OP has physical limitations that impact his driving of his car, then he should have it properly modified so he can do so. I know a soldier who lost both legs in combat but still wheels a 5-speed Jeep. He built the devices himself, and it is very impressive!

Cheers! M2

[Yaross]

@ CTScott
well said sir, though it is an easy mod, i agree on your point of not using the e-brake to cancel cruise control.

+1 also on mod to adapt normal brakes from pedal to hand controls if the drivers is physically impaired to use the foot brake.