how to eliminate tire to fender gap

[carlitoselcool]

guys i want to drop my yaris so that the tire tucks in to the fender, how can i do this? tools or parts? thanks

:smile:

[custom Lftback]

coilovers will get you the most drop (besides air suspension of course), but you can adjust the height as well. and for a flush look you can put on rear hub spacers to flush the wheel with the side of the car.

[ilikerice]

^^ agreed.. coilovers all the way.. im using Megan Race coilovers on mine, currently cant attach photos right now cuz im at work, but here is the link to a picture. mine is the black hatch with the red rota rims.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51&page=65

im only halfway point on the coilover. i could easily drop another 2 inches if not more.. my side skirts already scrap some speed bumps. i gotta take them slow..

[PumpkinSteve]

If you put a spacer on the back wheels is there still a decent amount of thread on the wheels studs to screw the nuts on? I don't want my wheels falling off.

[ilikerice]

this all depends on what type of wheel you have and how many inches/millimeters you are getting as a spacer...

get some open nut lug nuts and tighten them down. but some paint or mark the thread on the inside of one of your lug nut threads where it touches the stud. then take it off and see how much thread you got left..

[33OH]

If you put a spacer on the back wheels is there still a decent amount of thread on the wheels studs to screw the nuts on? I don't want my wheels falling off.

Hub spacers go behind the assembly making it not effect your threading at all.

If you use wheel spacers, the largest I would go without extended lugs is 7mm. 5mm if you really want to play it safe. Make sure to torque the lug nuts down to proper specs and to check them every week or so.

[carlitoselcool]

Well hello guys im back and now with my yaris lowered here are some pictures i am super happy. should i drop more in the back? opinions thanks. ohh and the method of lowering the car is stock factory springs but being cut

[marcus]

only downside on coilover is they rust like hell....i guess greasing is frequently might help.

[ilikerice]

really? cut your springs? :confused: why may i ask?

[Flipper_1938]

Well hello guys im back and now with my yaris lowered here are some pictures i am super happy. should i drop more in the back? opinions thanks. ohh and the method of lowering the car is stock factory springs but being cut

How's the ride with cut springs? ...and how many coils did you cut?

[ev_yaris_s]

How's the ride with cut springs? ...and how many coils did you cut?

I dont image any comfy, prolly bouncy or very stiff

[bB2NER]

Cut springs are really BAD! They don't fit the spring pockets right and can fall out. On top of screwing up the overall spring rate and creating a very stiff ride.
Do yourself and yaris a favor and get the drop you want using the proper springs.

As far as using regular wheel spacers... Be sure to get the right length wheel studs and make sure the spacers are hub centric to avoid vibrations.
I prefer the hub spacers that bring the hub and brake assembly out as a whole so you don't have to mess with the wheel studs.

[carlitoselcool]

Cut springs are really BAD! They don't fit the spring pockets right and can fall out. On top of screwing up the overall spring rate and creating a very stiff ride.
Do yourself and yaris a favor and get the drop you want using the proper springs.

As far as using regular wheel spacers... Be sure to get the right length wheel studs and make sure the spacers are hub centric to avoid vibrations.
I prefer the hub spacers that bring the hub and brake assembly out as a whole so you don't have to mess with the wheel studs.

For all the skeptical people, I have had several cars with cut springs and I haven't encounter any problem, the ride quality is very nice, just a little more bouncy but it feels stiff and nice for turning, the lowering springs that I could buy will not give me this nice 4 inch drop, so I decided to once again cut the springs, I had a mustang , scion xa and now a yaris on cut springs and I love each of these car's handling and suspension. My opinion, don't be scared of cutting springs ( they are just springs, nothing high tech involved with springs) save money and get your own customize height that you want to achieve, of course if you have the $1000 go for the coillovers. Hope this post clarifies, let me know if any questions, Also I cut about 3 turns in the front and 2 in the back but I suggest you do it by trial and error to achieve your desired height. Good luck and let me know if I can help you with anything :smile: :wink:

[PETERPOOP]

I bet you look funny bouncing on the road. ;)

[Bluevitz-rs]

I don't understand why everyone thinks cut spring are going to make the car bouncy? Is it just the stereotypical thinking of Honda Civics riding on bump stops? Because your shocks and struts are going to determine that, unless of course you go overboard and are riding the bump stops.

[SAV912]

^ Four inches off the front stock springs while maintaining the softness of stock struts is going to be pretty damn close to riding the bumpstops all the fucking time.

There's no way the OP will convince me this is healthier for the car than using proper lowering springs. Cheaper? Maybe, until clicking CV axles and blown struts start showing up. The roads in Miami aren't exactly glass smooth.

But to each his own.

-C

[bB2NER]

On some cars they have springs that narrow down and if you cut them the springs do not fit where they are suppossed to go.
Just because you can cut your springs doesn't make it safe or right.
Your car, do what you want if you can't afford to do it right.
It's amazing how much ghetto stuff people will do to their cars in order to save a few bucks.

[ilikerice]

On some cars they have springs that narrow down and if you cut them the springs do not fit where they are suppossed to go.
Just because you can cut your springs doesn't make it safe or right.
Your car, do what you want if you can't afford to do it right.
It's amazing how much ghetto stuff people will do to their cars in order to save a few bucks.

haha.. this goes back to when i used pvc piping on my crx to make a cold air intake.. my dad walks up and says "good old back yard hot rodin' at its best." then laughed at me.. btw that was back in 99 and i was only 16... ahhahah

[redglare45]

I think this is the 1st time that I hear someone on YW cut their springs :eek:
Not my cup of tea, but it's your car.

[JumpmanYaris]

LOL i guess its what you do when ur broke and can't afford lowering springs ?

[matthewai]

are those tires bald ? ahha

and redglare i have the same wheel set up as you rings and dust caps just sayin haha

[redglare45]

and redglare i have the same wheel set up as you rings and dust caps just sayin haha

Sweet! :thumbsup:

[Flipper_1938]

I dont image any comfy, prolly bouncy or very stiff

Based on comments from a lot of the other suspension threads, that is about the same ride quality as the "store bought" lowering springs.

[carlitoselcool]

Thank you for all the opinions, they are respected, like I said I have no problems with cut springs and I will not spend $1000 in coilovers to get the same look and ride quality. One question guys why does my picture does not show up under my name here in the forum??? Im loving my yaris which is the bottom line. Take care guys, :)

[Bluevitz-rs]

One question guys why does my picture does not show up under my name here in the forum???

Maybe it's too big, or you don't have the right link.

[CAyaris]

You guys must be really bad or have no idea about cut springs. I have cut the springs on my car and no not the stock springs i cut my aftermarket springs. it gets a little stiff but really for everyone on here if your plannin on dropping it low dont expect your car ride to get better. U can cut springs and be fine just be care full cut a quarted to half a coil at a time and your fine... Wow wtf. if your that worried about ridequality quit messing with your car your not gonna make it any better. And yeah if u want to tuck right and look sick run bags they are nicer than coil overs bwecaus eu can level out when needs and slam when wanted...

[bB2NER]

Question for the people that cut their springs????
How do you make the spring fit it's pocket after where it tapers down to a smaller winding has been cut off? I also have found that the angle the spring ends up with will not sit right in the pocket after cutting has taken place.
If the cut end of the spring doesn't touch all the way around what holds it in place or keeps it from moving around and possibly falling out at some point?

[carlitoselcool]

Question for the people that cut their springs????
How do you make the spring fit it's pocket after where it tapers down to a smaller winding has been cut off? I also have found that the angle the spring ends up with will not sit right in the pocket after cutting has taken place.
If the cut end of the spring doesn't touch all the way around what holds it in place or keeps it from moving around and possibly falling out at some point?

the side of the spring where it tapers down to a smaller winding never gets cut off, i cut the spring from the bottom where the winding is always consistent, the winding gets smaller only on the top and that stays like that ( this is only in the rear springs) the front springs do not have a narrower winding on either side so you are fine they always fit back in its place and they can not fall off because the shock absorber is inside the spring. In the back after you cut it you have to hold it in its place while somebody else lowers the car slowly so that the spring stays where it is suppose to be, after all the weight of the car is over the spring that thing will never come off, unless you fly on a big bump, and the spring does touch all way around in the pocket. Now, in regards to struts and shocks the longevity will be the same as if you put springs or coilover at the end you are doing the same lowering the center of gravity using different methods. Any other question :smile:

[SAV912]

Now, in regards to struts and shocks the longevity will be the same as if you put springs or coilover at the end you are doing the same lowering the center of gravity using different methods. Any other question :smile:

You were making sense until here.

How does the longevity remain the same if you are 'doing the same lowering of gravity via different methods'? My car was lowered for a while on TRD springs, but I didn't waste much time in getting TRD shocks to go with it. Dropping the car to the point of having the stock shock nearly fully compressed on stock springs cut down 4" will certainly wear out shocks faster than shocks dropped down on 1.5" TRD springs or similar lowering springs. The spring rates are almost certainly not the same either, so I personally fail to see how stock shocks and 4" cut springs is the same as proper lowering springs matched to proper shocks for the job.

-C

[bB2NER]

Yep with 4 inches gone you are basically riding on the snubbers. The struts/shocks will be toast in no time.
You can pay now or later but you will pay for something. Why not just do it right and be done with it?

[Bluevitz-rs]

or just not get greedy and only cut 2" :tongue:

[bB2NER]

or just not get greedy and only cut 2" :tongue:True but then you still have the crappy ride qualities.:iono:

[LA Yaris]

LOL i guess its what you do when ur broke and can't afford lowering springs ?

+ 1 People that cut there spring are to CHEAP to do it the right way.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Well, you can count the guy who built a 6 speed transmission for his car and bought and installed just about every part for my car in the, ...to CHEAP to do it the right way. crowd. I have a rear set of cut Ford Areostar minivan spring I use at the track and have never had a problem with them falling out or giving me a harsh ride. And they have a spring rate of about double of anything I can buy in the aftermarket, other than coilovers.

[2005rs]

I doubt anyone who spends the money on coilovers are going to say cutting your springs is ok. Who would want to admit that there's an alternative to their setup that cost a lot less?
I'm not saying that it's a good idea, just that it might be ok if you understand what you're doing.
I'm curious if the op used different shocks with a shorter travel, since I've never heard of anyone lowering this much

[bB2NER]

+ 1 People that cut there spring are to CHEAP to do it the right way.

Exactly right! If you can't afford to do it right, leave it stock till you can. Otherwise don't cry when something goes wrong and the vehicle rides like crap.

[YarisPR]

+ 1 People that cut there spring are to CHEAP to do it the right way.

Not really. I know an old dude that believe me make more than 300K a year, he opted to cut his OEM springs for track purposes (Time attack/solocross car) cause he had 4 pairs of after market springs for his car and didn't like them. And he doesn't regret it :thumbsup: Sometime aftermarket doesn't do it for some people.

[big lo]

^+1 (and your alive lol) but IMO it would take out some comfort, but that's my opinion