Ipad 2 is out so .... (not a sale's thread) ;)

[tomato]

Just in case any of you are interested

since the Apple iPad 2 just came out, Apple has put their original iPads on clearance ($100 off)

Check that out at the Apple store's website before they sell out if you are interested.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB292LL/A?mco=MjEzNTIzNjY

The new iPad looks pretty good (faster, a camera, a little lighter and thiner) but still no flash.

Anyway, just a tip in case any of you are interested. :headbang:

[Altitude]

I'd be interested to know if the folks on this forum that bought the first one, have found it useful enough to upgrade to the slightly better version.

[tomato]

whoa not 100$ off we should be oooing and ahhing and thanking Steve for his good and kind gesture....NOT

100$ off a piece of kit that costs up to 800$ is peanuts. its an overpriced piece of chinese components which costs them about 10$ to make. sorry not impressed

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/apple/1.png



mwaahahahahahahaha!!!!! :clap::thumbsup::bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll:

[tomato]

I'd be interested to know if the folks on this forum that bought the first one, have found it useful enough to upgrade to the slightly better version.

It's useful to me but I don't see the need to upgrade to the newer and shiner model.

Yes, the new version is slightly improved, said to be twice as fast, lighter (the weight of the iPad is a bit of a problem when you hold it for extended periods of time, your hand and wrist get tired) but still, I have *no desire* to upgrade to another iPad.

I feel that the Xoom (with Android Honeycomb) out there is already a worthy competitor to the iPad and personally, my next tablet is going to be a Xoom 2 or 3 (when I'm ready and when it's ready) or whatever is out there at the time. I would prefer an HTC device, because I'm thoroughly impressed with what they've done with phones so far. I prefer the flexibility of Android myself, not that I don't enjoy my iPad as it is, with its strengths and obvious limitations, but Android IMO is going to be the standard because it's far, far, far more flexible than Apple's OS. My .02 c of course.

[tomato]

PK, I knew you'd react that way. :wink:

I only posted the link because I think an iPad for $399 is better than an iPad for $499. Out here, the $100 difference covers the tax and the Apple case and your lunch when you come out of the Apple store, and maybe even the trip home, so it's something ;)

(or a rear sway bar + something else?)

[CTScott]

I'd be interested to know if the folks on this forum that bought the first one, have found it useful enough to upgrade to the slightly better version.

I bought two (one for my wife and one for me) on release day last year. We both still use them daily, and keep finding more uses for them. I jailbroke them, which makes them a bit more flexible. For example, I installed "frash" which is a port of Flash 10.x from Android. It allows most flash based web sites to work fine, but doesn't support flash games or movies.

My daughter wanted an iPad for her birthday, and decided to wait for the iPad2, instead of getting the current model on her actual birthday. I watched the event today and am glad she waited. I am hoping that when she gets it that I can fight the urge to upgrade mine.

[YAR1S]

the camera is a nice upgrade.

I resisted the urge to get one because of the lack of a camera.... I would love to video chat on it ...

with the new ipad having a camera I may have to resist the urge...

the next one will probably be HD and flash enabled flash.



ugh!

[SilverBack]

Another utterly useless Apple product IMO, just like the new MacBook released a couple weeks ago. I just find it pathetic how Steve Jobs preys on the very impressionable (and most who don't yet understand the concept of NECESSITY) just so they can pay his bills. There's the new "American Dream" right there...

[tomato]

why wont they just add everything in one shot instead of leaing it bit by bit

Gotta make a profit? :iono:

[fnkngrv]

the updates to the I2 are nice and all, but why in the hell would they put an HDMI out and NOT bump up the resolution???? Huge fail on that one. There is also already a lot floating about the RAM not being up to spec possibly? IDK. I just got my iPad 2 weeks ago. I paid 200 bucks for the 64GB without 3G. It is a fun toy, but I would NEVER pay the full price. It just isn't robust enough for 800 bones IMHO.

[JumpmanYaris]

Is this out in stores? I am curious to see how it looks in person

[tomato]

March 11, release date.

[tomato]

I bought two (one for my wife and one for me) on release day last year. We both still use them daily, and keep finding more uses for them. I jailbroke them, which makes them a bit more flexible. For example, I installed "frash" which is a port of Flash 10.x from Android. It allows most flash based web sites to work fine, but doesn't support flash games or movies.

My daughter wanted an iPad for her birthday, and decided to wait for the iPad2, instead of getting the current model on her actual birthday. I watched the event today and am glad she waited. I am hoping that when she gets it that I can fight the urge to upgrade mine.

Hmmm... now that's an idea. Maybe I will jailbreak mine when the warranty period is up.


would she know if you subsituted yours ? ;) Yeah, probably . Yeah, you might get serious envy there, Scott :biggrin:

It's not so much the camera that makes me envious, it's the "lighter" part and "twice as fast" but not enough to make me wanna trade in, though.

[frownonfun]

So what exactly does an iPad do that something else doesn't do already? That's all I wanna know.

[tomato]

PK: Android phone + android tablet => should be able to tether no problem, no? ;)

Until then, my WiFi-only iPad is just fine for my needs.

I'll admit I got pangs of regrets when their notebook came out, I told myself that if I had waited a little bit, I could have gotten a better device for just a little bit more money, but then I probably would have had pangs of regrets anyway no matter what I bought, that's just the way it goes with technology, you're only on top of the food chain for a couple of months if that, and then, bam, V 2 is out and your device is yesterday's news, just like your comic strip up there.

Luckily, Apple stuff doesn't devaluate all that much. You'd be surprised but I put a couple of ancient iPods on eBay (one of them was broken, advertised "as is") and I got pretty good money for it. Some people want these devices for parts, or whatever.

[tomato]

@Frownonfun: an iPad doesn't do anything that another device doesn't do (unless it's app specific), but it does it in a different way.

It's like this. Imagine you have a bike, a car, and a minivan. And you want to go to the store get groceries. So, if it's a really nice day and you just want a loaf of bread and the store is nearby you might say, what the heck, I'll use my bike. If the store is pretty far and you wanna buy 500 pounds of dog food, then you'll take the van (or the Yaris ;). Technically you're doing the same thing, but using a different mechanical device to get it done. Same thing with the iPad.

For me the iPad has a huge advantage of portability while being big enough that I can see a website in its entirety (my phone is small and strains the eyes after a while). The interface (compared to a windows laptop) is a dream. It's very portable. I can take on the plane without having to worry about battery life during a 10-hour trip (not so with my laptop or my Android phone) and without having to boot it up for security (it boots immediately, if they ask). Also, it's flash so nothing spins, nothing warms up, no lid falls on your face when you're trying to read in bed. It's just a question of preference, I guess.

I'll admit, I use the iPad mostly at the end of the day, when I want to read in bed and I can't stand sitting at the computer anymore. The display is much crisper, and it's easier to hold and I just kind of enjoy the device. I watch Netflix in bed. I play on the couch with it. I toss it in my purse. My laptop is much, much, much heavier and requires a ton of accessories and also the battery doesn't last long at all.

Last but not least, you operate the tablet with your fingers. You look and you touch what you see and it moves. It's a different user experience. Between you and me, I find the tablet experience nothing short of amazing (I've had to use computers since the days of mainframe) so yeah, I really, really enjoy the tablet. But maybe that's just me? ;)

hope that helps. :smile: just my .02 anyway :)

[tomato]

PS. I got the cheaper model, the 16GB and Wi-Fi only. I think it's the best value for the iPad. If you think you're going to keep it a while, then get one with a bigger memory (32GB). I would not pay $800 for a tablet though. At that price, I can get a computer.

(I think CTScott has the bigger iPad but for him, it's OK because he uses his ***A LOT*** , for a great deal of practical uses and applications. So he gets his money's worth. But for someone like me who basically mostly use it for convenience, well, I do just fine with my miniPad ;)

Anyway, that's why I'm happy to wait until HTC, Samsung and everybody gets all their ducks in a row. Even Blackberry has made a little tablet and it looks pretty cool too, although it's said to need some work. I think in a couple of years, we'll have have tablets (in addition to a desktop AND a smartphone) and this whole discussion will make us all laugh ;)

[tomato]

PK, that comic strip is positively hilarious. where did you get it?! it's really spot on!

[tomato]

pfeww.. I guess I had a lot to say! sorry about that :biggrin:

[cali yaris]

I was going to try for a thoughtful response. I have an iPad and find it incredibly useful on a daily basis.

PK, your predictable and incessant bashing of the product is off topic with respect to the OP's question.

[cali yaris]

I was going to try for a thoughtful response, because I have an iPad and find it incredibly useful on a daily basis.

But PK, your predictable and incessant bashing of the product is off topic with respect to the OP's post.

[tomato]

It's all good, it's all good

All I was trying to say is that if anyone is interested in getting an ipad directly from the horse's mouth, they're shaving off $100 on last year's model.

I've never seen Apple do it before (except with the iPhones), but not on their computer products, not even on their iPods.

[tomato]

PK, tablet computing in bed FTW ;) :headbang: :biggrin:

[tomato]

Now now, now you're just jumping to conclusions ;)

[cali yaris]

^ As if we didn't get your point yet. :biggrin:

At least someone likes me. It's that kind of a day.

[tomato]

OK, where is the poster who said he bought his iPad 2 weeks ago?

Apple just said they will honor the $100 off for iPad first gen. if you bought your iPad 2 weeks ago.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/03/financial/f121216S42.DTL&tsp=1

[Altitude]

I agree with PK about Apple's tactics and tendency to use proprietary hardware, connectors and delay features so they can sell another unit etc. At one point, many many years ago, I was considering Apple until I found out how restrictive they are. This is the sole reason why I don't buy their products.

[tomato]

Oh, right. you got it for 200 bucks. Damn, that's a good price!

[tomato]

What a surprise, pk :wink:


One thing though, that Macs do better than anyone else IMO. The photography blogs look way, way, way better on a MAC. Or an iPad for that matter.

Just sayin' :biggrin: :biggrin:

[Iggy888]

I think Conan says it best... :laugh:

http://video.teamcoco.com/video/conan.jsp?oid=245467&eref=sharethisUrl

[cali yaris]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/03/04/samsung.tablet.inadequate/index.html

LOL

[cali yaris]

I find it ironic that the people who want to bash the iPad aren't the least bit curious how owners who like it actually use it, or why they like it.

I can appreciate why others don't need it or don't want it, but the reverse seems not to be true. Interesting.

There are a couple of things I don't like about it, but that's true (at the least) for every electronic device I have ever owned.

I'm not an Apple fan, by the way; I don't own a laptop or a desktop from them. And when I get my next phone, it will probably be an Android.

[tk-421]

PK, that comic strip is positively hilarious. where did you get it?! it's really spot on!

It's from theoatmeal.com :thumbsup:

[tk-421]

Although I will likely never, ever (ever) consider an Apple product for various technical and philosophical reasons, I do admit that the iPad is a product that fills a particular niche quite successfully. My mom has one and swears by it, if only because she can watch videos and answer e-mails in a pretty straightforward fashion (even if it's not ideal for typing, the mail app is not so bad).

For the more technically inclined, however, there is no question that Android devices offer much more bang for the buck, even if Apple has the bigger app store (which is something that could change in a matter of months).

I am also pretty sure that I will be jumping into the tablet bandwagon as soon as HP releases the TouchPad, which has a developer-friendly OS and tools that look badass.

[cali yaris]

^ That's a reasoned response, makes sense to me.

Tell your mom to buy the Apple bluetooth keyboard, it mates with the iPad perfectly and makes a nice little desktop system. :smile:

[frownonfun]

I don't bash it because I don't think it's useful. I bash it because I think the idea of needing the things it offers at your fingertips at every moment of the day stupid and a little sad. It's like a butler. I'm sure that would be useful. Fetch me this or that. Make me something to eat. Tidy up my house before I get home. Now that's useful. But Jesus Christ do I really NEED all that. Or could I maybe be just fine if I can't watch netflix right now this very second.

BUT, I guess if you have the money for it and you feel it's worth it then go for it. I understand that not everyone feels the way I do. So people will continue to have butlers and others will continue to buy overpriced technological junk. I'm ok with that.

That's kinda why I haven't been real vocal in this thread up to this point. Just because I don't want one doesn't mean others shouldn't. But just wanted to clear up that not everyone bashes the iPad because they don't think it's useful. Just unnecessary. Then again I feel that way about most technologies these days. Guess that's the redneck in me coming out.

[tomato]

...

Tell your mom to buy the Apple bluetooth keyboard, it mates with the iPad perfectly and makes a nice little desktop system. :smile:

Actually, I have another suggestion. If your mom and her iPad never leave the house, then great.

But if you are like me and you take the iPad everywhere, and like to toss it in the backpack, etc., and portability is important, then you might want to look into getting the ZAGG bluetooth keyboard instead of the Apple KB.

I saw it at MacWorld about a month ago and was completely blown away by its functionality. It actually works better than the Apple KB IMO, and doubles as a(n excellent iPad) case.

Also, the Apple bluetooth KB is an "either / or" kind of deal, whereas Zagg has worked it so you can use the virtual and the bluetooth KB at the same time, just by pressing a Function key.

Check it out

http://goo.gl/w2RES


(ZAGG also makes the best "military grade" tough skins for all kinds of devices, including the iPad.)

[tomato]

PS. I don' t work for ZAGG ;)

[tomato]

@frownonfun No one *needs* anything, except food, water and shelter, clothes (the kind that keep you warm, not the kind that have designer names on them ;)

You don't need cable, Netflix, a certain color Yaris (why don't we all get grey cars, after all, all we need is to get around, right? ;) , certainly not the mods on the car, or the vast majority of objects that surround us. However, we still get these things because they fill another "need" or want, even if only a need for pleasure.

I know it's hard for some people to wrap their head around it but tablet computing is going to stay. I'm willing to bet we'll all have tablets 5 years down the road, max (and BTW, I would be shocked if the iMac of the future doesn't operate by touch as well, but that's a whole other conversation for some other time. ;)

I bought a bluetooth keyboard so I could work on my iPad. I wouldn't work on it 24/7, 7 days a week, but I can definitely work on it several days (with the help of a touch keyboard). So to me, it's not just a luxury object. It's also helpful.

The tablet's strong point (besides the touch screen) is, for me, portability and long battery life. Its weak points for me is lack of Flash, and it would be nice to have a USB port or three.

[frownonfun]

@frownonfun No one *needs* anything, except food, water and shelter, clothes (the kind that keep you warm, not the kind that have designer names on them ;)

You don't need cable, Netflix, a certain color Yaris (why don't we all get grey cars, after all, all we need is to get around, right? ;) , certainly not the mods on the car, or the vast majority of objects that surround us. However, we still get these things because they fill another "need" or want, even if only a need for pleasure.

I know it's hard for some people to wrap their head around it but tablet computing is going to stay. I'm willing to bet we'll all have tablets 5 years down the road, max (and BTW, I would be shocked if the iMac of the future doesn't operate by touch as well, but that's a whole other conversation for some other time. ;)

I bought a bluetooth keyboard so I could work on my iPad. I wouldn't work on it 24/7, 7 days a week, but I can definitely work on it several days (with the help of a touch keyboard). So to me, it's not just a luxury object. It's also helpful.

The tablet's strong point (besides the touch screen) is, for me, portability and long battery life. Its weak points for me is lack of Flash, and it would be nice to have a USB port or three.

Yes, yes. Needs and wants. Food, shelter, oxygen. I assumed that'd be the argument. But somehow I draw a distinction between say, indoor plumbing and a device that let's you play angry birds anytime you want in the palm of your hand. Neither are things you NEED but one of the two greatly improves your life while the other well, I guess some people seem to think so.

Like I said though, it's not iPad specific. I feel like all these over hyped gadgets are turning us all into these people...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o

and these people...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlN21ebeak

and this lady...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg11glsBW4Y

And the funny thing is the first two are just ads to get you to buy MORE GADGETS!! Wow. We've become tech zombies.

But anyway, I'll get off my soapbox. Didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. Just my opinion.

[tomato]

:bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll::bow::bow:


Hahaha, those videos are hilarious!!!

[JumpmanYaris]

To buy or not to buy, that is the question

[CTScott]

I'm a bit cheesed at the lack of pre-ordering. I read an article last week that claimed that Apple is not allowing people to place orders prior to release day to prevent a lack of lines at the stores. They like to get the publicity of the long lines and they didn't with the Verizon iPhone 4, since most people pre-ordered them.

[JumpmanYaris]

ill give you a hint...:wink:

DONT!

lmao come on man I know your opinion on Apple lol

[JumpmanYaris]

Hahaha actually I am a PC lol but I would like to try it out tho, I could always sell it. Dani has a big ol MAC its alright but the PC its easier for me

[detroiter]

My only gripe with apple is two things. For one, they come out with a new update every few months on something that someone spends a ton of money for. That's very frustrating and I'm very surprised that alot of apple customers have not raised hell over it. My other gripe is the fact that apple is very limited on what they let you do. Like with the osx on the computers, they give you all the apps from the factory out of the box that they want you to use. Trying to find and add additional applications and programs that did not come pre-installed from apple, good luck. A very 'what you see is what you get and nothing more" sense of thinking from apple.

I enjoy all of the programs I have on my windows pc such as the youtube to mp3 converter, alot of the free online multiplayer games and a multitude of other programs
that are completley non-existent on macs. I really love the ibook g3 that lasted me
a whopping 8 years of constant use. Apples are built to last, no denying that. But
they just do not let you change a damn thing about them. They really need to update
the two choices that you get to color the borders and boxes...blue or grey/silver? Come on Steve. We all know apple is about minimalistic views but don't be a communist.

[tomato]

I'm a bit cheesed at the lack of pre-ordering. I read an article last week that claimed that Apple is not allowing people to place orders prior to release day to prevent a lack of lines at the stores. They like to get the publicity of the long lines and they didn't with the Verizon iPhone 4, since most people pre-ordered them.

Just order it online after 3/11 :iono:

It's OK if you don't get it on Day 1, you know :biggrin:

I'm not sure I understand why people feel the need to stand in line to buy an iPod or whatever when they could just wait a week or so :rolleyes::iono: I mean maybe the first iPhone or the very first of a very new product, limited edition, OK. But everybody knows there is plenty more where those came from :iono:

[tomato]

PK, we ***all*** know how you feel (clearly! hehehe) but I"m curious... have you ever had an Apple product in your hands? Any Apple product? a Mac, an iPod, an iPad ? Anything?

[CTScott]

Just order it online after 3/11 :iono:

It's OK if you don't get it on Day 1, you know :biggrin:

I'm not sure I understand why people feel the need to stand in line to buy an iPod or whatever when they could just wait a week or so :rolleyes::iono: I mean maybe the first iPhone or the very first of a very new product, limited edition, OK. But everybody knows there is plenty more where those came from :iono:

It's actually for my 12 year old daughter. She's actually been mighty patient with waiting past her birthday to get it, so I was hoping that, like with prior releases, we could have it delivered on release day. The latest word is that you can place your order after 12:01AM PST on Friday (or go to the store at 5:00 PM). For hers I am going to do the online order first thing Friday morning.

[Crandall]

Interesting because Apple only has around seven percent of the computer market share. I'd hardly qualify that as the masses.

Apple make (good) products for their niche clientele and they're done quite well for themselves. You don't make it on the Fortune 500 list with over 5 billion in profit without making products people like. Is Apple for everyone, no. I own Android devices; I enjoy them, but I'm not going to come here and sling my personal preferences like they're the cold hard facts.

The starting price for the Motorola Xoom is eight hundred dollars; While the iPad 2 with the same memory and both WiFi only is roughly eighty dollars cheaper. If you look at the 3G model it's around one hundred and fifty dollars cheaper for the iPad 2. I've read the reviews and think they Xoom has a lot of potential, however at it's price point I can't see it taking a big chunk out of Apple's market share. Epically with the Black Berry Playbook coming out at a lower price point.

Are the Xoom's specs impressive, yes. Does Honeycomb have a lot of rich and exciting features, yes. However I can't justify the price for it when a 16GB WiFi only iPad 2 is a good price and really all the space I need to watch movies and browse the net on the go.

[tomato]

It's actually for my 12 year old daughter. She's actually been mighty patient with waiting past her birthday to get it, so I was hoping that, like with prior releases, we could have it delivered on release day. The latest word is that you can place your order after 12:01AM PST on Friday (or go to the store at 5:00 PM). For hers I am going to do the online order first thing Friday morning.

She's going to love it! :wub:

The thing people don't understand with the iPad is that it's a user + device thing. You just "click" with the device the minute you put your fingers on it. There is an app for everything, for every one. Children love it. Older people love it. The user interface is **** slick **** so it's hard not to be amazed.

I don't have very many apps on mine, and yet, last night I was wondering if I had to give up my laptop or my iPad, I probably would give up my laptop at this point (now that I have a bluetooth keyboard and cloud computing is getting more sophisticated), the device can be quite handy on the go. I just can't see continuing to haul 10 pounds of laptop + cables and stuff when the iPad can do most of the same thing and weighs only 2 pounds, plus the battery lasts 3 or 4 days.

I'm not an apple "fan" by any means :rolleyes:, but you gotta give credit when credit's due and the iPad is a very cool device that works very well for what it does.

People who own Apple computers are not necessarily sheep, you know. You'd be surprised who uses macs (if you drive through silicon valley, you'll see a lot of macs in people's backpacks, just sayin' :wink: ) Just my .02

I'm still a huge Android fan, nothing's gonna change that but I happen to like Apple's stuff too for what it does best. PK I still maintain that if you saw your photography on an iMac, it would probably knock your socks off. :biggrin:

[CTScott]

She's going to love it! :wub:

The thing people don't understand with the iPad is that it's a user + device thing. You just "click" with the device the minute you put your fingers on it. There is an app for everything, for every one. Children love it. Older people love it. The user interface is **** slick **** so it's hard not to be amazed.

I don't have very many apps on mine, and yet, last night I was wondering if I had to give up my laptop or my iPad, I probably would give up my laptop at this point (now that I have a bluetooth keyboard and cloud computing is getting more sophisticated), the device can be quite handy on the go. I just can't see continuing to haul 10 pounds of laptop + cables and stuff when the iPad can do most of the same thing and weighs only 2 pounds, plus the battery lasts 3 or 4 days.

I'm not an apple "fan" by any means :rolleyes:, but you gotta give credit when credit's due and the iPad is a very cool device that works very well for what it does.

People who own Apple computers are not necessarily sheep, you know. You'd be surprised who uses macs (if you drive through silicon valley, you'll see a lot of macs in people's backpacks, just sayin' :wink: ) Just my .02

I'm still a huge Android fan, nothing's gonna change that but I happen to like Apple's stuff too for what it does best. PK I still maintain that if you saw your photography on an iMac, it would probably knock your socks off. :biggrin:

My daughters (7 and 12) constantly steal my wife's iPad to play games, web surf, or watch netflix, so my daughter is chomping at the bit to have her own. They each have their own PC, but like the iPad far better.

I have about 150 apps on mine, but there are probably only about 10 that I use on a daily basis.

I have a 21" iMac, but only use it for ipad/iphone development. If I could do development on a PC I would be much happier, as I really prefer Windows to OSX. I made the mistake at an Apple developers conference of inquiring if the dev tools would eventually be available for the PC.

[Altitude]

@tomato - Not to change the subject but you mentioned cloud computing. I would say you should stay as far away from it as possible. It is not the wave of the future unless, like Google, SalesForce et al you have a vested interest in it. It sounds good in theory, but in practice it's a major fail.

Think about it - to be smart you should keep local backups of all your data in the event there is some issue with your data in the cloud. And if you think about it, having to keep local backups sort of invalidates the whole purpose of cloud computing in the first place.

Case in point - the recent outage of GMail that caused so much havoc.

It's nothing more than a tech fallacy much like Web 2.0...

[cali yaris]

I'm merely stating that there is other hardware and software than the shiny Apple of Eve.

actually, no. You're not "merely stating", the post above is one example of your persistent sarcasm. I would hope for more mutual respect and honoring other's preferences here.

{unsubscribed}

[cm07yaris]

whoa not 100$ off we should be oooing and ahhing and thanking Steve for his good and kind gesture....NOT

100$ off a piece of kit that costs up to 800$ is peanuts. its an overpriced piece of chinese components which costs them about 10$ to make. sorry not impressed

There's only one part of that statement that has some merit. It does indeed cost them $10 in manufacturing costs, while the components inside add up to $219.35 for a total of $229.35 for the basic 16GB, Wi-Fi only model that was originally $499.00.

[tk-421]

Are the Xoom's specs impressive, yes. Does Honeycomb have a lot of rich and exciting features, yes. However I can't justify the price for it when a 16GB WiFi only iPad 2 is a good price and really all the space I need to watch movies and browse the net on the go.

I agree with this part. The current gen Android tablets are obscenely expensive, but that's also exactly why Android will always be the better choice IMO... Allow me to explain:

To me initial <insert product here> price is not as important as overall <insert product here> value. What is value, you ask? To me, it boils down to number of features and technological relevance and reliability.

I believe an Android device's value curve will degrade much more gracefully than with Apple's model, which is apparently designed to make last-gen models obsolete ASAP.

For example, the iPhone 3G (not 3Gs) will not be getting an iOS update anymore, even though the hardware hasn't really changed that much between models if you think about it. OTOH, Linux operating systems (like Android) tend to be much more forgiving in that respect.

[tomato]

@tomato - Not to change the subject but you mentioned cloud computing. I would say you should stay as far away from it as possible. It is not the wave of the future unless, like Google, SalesForce et al you have a vested interest in it. It sounds good in theory, but in practice it's a major fail.

Think about it - to be smart you should keep local backups of all your data in the event there is some issue with your data in the cloud. And if you think about it, having to keep local backups sort of invalidates the whole purpose of cloud computing in the first place.

Case in point - the recent outage of GMail that caused so much havoc.

It's nothing more than a tech fallacy much like Web 2.0...

No problem changing the subject, I think everyone knows that Apple has a sale on last year's iPad until they run out, everything else since those couple of posts is just us talking and as the OP I got no problem with the discussion going wherever ... thread is all yours, guys ! :smile: (well within reason, right PK? :wink:)

You're correct that everyone should have 2 backups on different media.

I happen to disagree about the future of cloud computing, but I would not store *everything * up there either just yet. For one thing, there is always a privacy concern that's not yet been fully addressed IMO.

But look at it from my perspective. At the moment, besides the iPad (and my phone) I have pretty ancient equipment around (desktops and laptop are close to 5 y old, maybe older) and I've been known to "misplace" a USB key or two, so I do leave some documents on the cloud on a permanent basis. I like to have them up there, so I can access them from wherever when I need them. Also, for sharing documents with others, it's really ideal, IMO. You just send them the link.

Of course, the cloud is only as good as your internet connection. If you don't have internet access, then you can't work :(

BTW, I have 3 gmail accounts, and did not notice anything missing. I think only a very very small amount of users were affected by the outage, but people were incredibly vocal immediately , "don't be Evil" etc...

[tomato]

pk, just for you :smile:

http://gadgetsteria.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/android-porn.png

[tomato]

http://arts-wallpapers.com/iPhone4/Funny/images/apple%20android%20get%20along.jpg




:smile: :smile: :smile:

[Crandall]

and you getting this info from? if you are talking patent fees, its nothing compared to the markup they charge for the thing. The actual components are peanuts compared to the MSRP

He was making a reference to the labor being only ten dollars. Where as the actual guts of the unit cost two hundred and nineteen dollars. It was pretty clear. :iono:

And I'm sorry you think there's like a ten dollar mark up on the Xoom? The purpose of a business is to make a profit, let's not forget this.

[frownonfun]

He was making a reference to the labor being only ten dollars. Where as the actual guts of the unit cost two hundred and nineteen dollars. It was pretty clear. :iono:

And I'm sorry you think there's like a ten dollar mark up on the Xoom? The purpose of a business is to make a profit, let's not forget this.

I'm pretty *sure* PK gets what he is saying. What PK is asking is where he came up with those numbers. Correct me if I am wrong.

* EDIT

[tomato]

^ well now that you explain it that way... I'd say you got a point there.

Won't change anything for me, though. I guess I'm no mother Theresa and I just really enjoy my iPad :redface:

[cm07yaris]

and you getting this info from? if you are talking patent fees, its nothing compared to the markup they charge for the thing. The actual components are peanuts compared to the MSRP

http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/News/Pages/Mid-RangeiPadtoGenerateMaximumProfitsforApple,iSuppliE stimates.aspx

I think $399 is a great price for the entry level model, no way I would pay for any other one knowing this though.

[tomato]

How tablets are actually great productivity tools, Lifehacker

http://lifehacker.com/#!5779982

Pretty good article.

[tomato]

No reaction? hmmm, that's too bad, it was a good article ...



PK, I saw this and thought of you .. hehehehe!!! :laugh: :laugh:

http://store.micgadget.com/212-1270-large/steve-jobs-action-figure.jpg

[frownonfun]

How tablets are actually great productivity tools, Lifehacker

http://lifehacker.com/#!5779982

Pretty good article.

I read it but I'm not buying some of the advantages listed.

Your work is completely distraction free lol oh cmon. Seriously? Maybe if you have a lot of distracting stuff on your laptop you might need to close some of it. Problem solved. I don't know that it's ever my computer that is distracting anyway but that's just me.

It's safer Why, because @snorkel42 said so? Laptops can connect through the same technology tablets can.

It's faster Again, seriously? So I should go out and buy a tablet since MS Word takes 1 second to load instead of 2 seconds? And if your PC or laptop is running that slowly (and it's relatively new) it's probably because you have too much shit running.

I'll give you that the instant on, extended battery life, and portability are good points though.

Annotating documents seems a bit frivolous as I've never seen anyone who actually needed to do that (on a regular basis) and even then it's not that hard to click the highlight button and drag over a line of text on a laptop either.


EDIT I guess if you don't have a laptop already then I can see why maybe you'd want to go with a tablet. USBs seem like they'd be essential to me but maybe not for some. It's the people with a smartphone, laptop, netbook, ipod, e-reader, and a tablet that i don't get.

[tomato]

Not to beat a dead horse, but for me, instant on, portability and weight is crucial (well portability and weight are crucial). I'm just no longer wiilling and /or able to carry a ton of weight in my backpack anymore, only for emergencies, and I don't do it with pleasure, believe me.

For "serious" work, sure, I go back to a regular computer but no one said any device will fully replace another. It's just that one device might be more adapted to a given situation than another...

[tomato]

PK, I'm done trying with you :biggrin: :laugh: :laugh:

It's just, that I can't wrap my head around people who bash technology only because it's [MS] [APPLE] [Google] [insert what you want here]. :iono:

Steve Jobs is what he is, it's no secret, the internet is full of "opinions" ;) about him (just Google "Steve Jobs is" and watch what pops up :wink:), and I'll give you that a lot of people using Apple-only products tend to confuse the company with a cult / religion but should that prevent me from using something that their engineers have made that works great for me?

[tomato]

For those of you who are interested the big iPad day is tomorrow, then.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/ipad-2-goes-on-sale-tomorrow-5pm-local-time-in-stores-1am-pt-o/

[frownonfun]

Not to beat a dead horse, but for me, instant on, portability and weight is crucial (well portability and weight are crucial). I'm just no longer wiilling and /or able to carry a ton of weight in my backpack anymore, only for emergencies, and I don't do it with pleasure, believe me.

For "serious" work, sure, I go back to a regular computer but no one said any device will fully replace another. It's just that one device might be more adapted to a given situation than another...

I gotcha. Portability and weight are good selling points. I guess I've just never been the type that needed any form of computing on the go. The only reason I have my netbook is for when I go on trips out of town. Other than that, it just collects dust.

But to each their own.

And I too don't understand hating some technological device based solely on it's brand. It's not like any of the other companies really care about you or something. They are all out to get as much money out of you as they think they can get. To think that apple is anymore evil than any other tech company is delusional.

[tomato]

Not only that but engineers don't spend a lifetime working at any given company anymore.

They'll work for Apple for a few years, then go somewhere else... Former Google employees went to Facebook. It goes on a lot.

I don't get the hate. I don't get the cult either.

To be completely honest I'm still the same person who has a little decal of an Android peeing on an Apple on the side of my car, but it's mostly as a reaction to the strong Apple culture in the SF Bay Area (or should I say "cult"). In reality, I love Google Android (clearly ;) [and many other Google products] but you couldn't pry my iPod or my tablet out of my cold- dead hands and if someone gave me an iMac I would find myself playing with it for hours on end :wink: Just sayin' :smile:

[tomato]

iPad 2 reviews on Tech Crunch

http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/09/ipad-2-review/

(Not for you, PK :biggrin: )

[tomato]

first off BLASPHEMER!! :biggrin:

PK, I thought I said that already in a previous thread. My first computer was an Apple. Then I worked with Macs (the fat little box, remember that one?)

http://lowendmac.com/compact/art/mac128k320.jpg

for a couple years after that. Actually I think I had 2 different kinds. First one was black and white, if memory serves. I went to Windows around 1993 or 94 , I forget, and have stayed with MS / PC's since that time mostly.



but seriously, you guys are missing the point. im not hatin' the product that much , but all the hype and status that is attached to owning an apple product when in reality its no better than anything else out there. i had apple users smirk at me in a tim hortons line for coffee for being the only one with an android device, there were 10 people in line all of them on their iphones while i was talking on my g1. People really think that they are above anyone else just because they have a shiny , overly expensive phone.

I know *exactly* what you're talking about.

We've complained locally, commented on blogs, newspapers, etc., about the smug attitude of the employees at the Apple store (if you showed up with a device that doesn't work, they automatically blamed you and assumed the user is at fault even if the device is clearly defective) and they've changed their attitude considerably in the last couple of years or so. I've had some great conversations about my Android phone with some Apple employees. They've become much friendlier than they were back about 5 years ago. But some of the clientele still has a long way to go :wink::biggrin::biggrin:

You know, I have a t-shirt in my closet from an Egghead convention I think (?) that's dated 1996 (!) that says "Refuse to be a victim, fight back for the Mac" and on the other side it says "you can take my mac ... when you pry my cold dead fingers off the mouse!" Back then Apple was clearly the underdog. how things change!

[tomato]

biased!:rolleyes:

.

I said NOT FOR YOU!!! :wink:

[tomato]

When Apple was in trouble .... (very sorry I have nothing to format this pic with right now :redface:)

[tomato]

Hey, it's almost a tablet but without the screen, hehehe :laugh: :laugh: J/K

[tomato]

You know something, PK, even back then, way back then, I had an Apple 2E at home and I was in school working on IBM PC's and learning DOS... it already felt like the Apple2 was way cooler, had a much better user interface, and was the device of the future.

not going anywhere with that, just sayin' :wink:

that Apple has become arrogant over the years is probably something any company can be accused of becoming once they start making serious money and dominate the market.. :iono:

You know I attended a Microsoft product release in SF a few years back [we met Bill Gates in person, that was kind of cool] but you know, these MS guys were not particularly humble either , just sayin' :biggrin:

[tomato]

er... should we clean up this thread? I think the iPad info got lost in all the banter.. :iono:
Oh, well, it's at the beginning of the thread if you need it.

[Altitude]

... I had an Apple 2E at home and I was in school working on IBM PC's and learning DOS... it already felt like the Apple2 was way cooler, had a much better user interface, and was the device of the future.

If you had used an Amiga you'd be singing an even different tune :biggrin:

(maybe you did - I dunno - but I remember when I lived in San Jose for a few years I got all geeked out about visiting Los Gatos where the Amiga was born.)

[CTScott]

man that thing (the old mac) is goofy looking. my first computer was a Atari 65XE:


My first was a Commodore VIC20, but my first "real" computer was an Osborne 1 (in 1982). My father bought it, but couldn't figure out how to do anything with it, so I took it over. I even had the 300 baud modem that you see in the left 5 1/4" floppy storage pocket of this one:

http://www.plyojump.com/classes/images/computer_history/osborne_portable_1981.jpg

[CTScott]

NICE!

I just realized it was earlier than 1982. I was in 6th grade when we got it, so that would have been 1980. In 1985 I upgraded to a PC clone that I built.

[frownonfun]

My first computer was an Apple IIc. I still remember playing Karateka. I miss that game. And good ol' Think Quick! and Oregon Trail. Oh the memories.

[tomato]

Here we go again :rolleyes:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/11/ipad-2-line-watch-the-few-the-proud-the-soaking-wet/

[CTScott]

I am so cheesed. I got up at 4AM to place the web order for my daughter's ipad2. I got my order in as soon as they updated the store and allowed orders. I was expecting to get a shipping notice today, but instead my order status is showing that it won't ship for 3 to 5 days. I did the line thing for my Ipad, but that was on a Saturday morning.

[tomato]

^ that's messed up! There is no reason for the delay with online ordering!!! :rolleyes:

I still don't understand why they wouldn't allow people to pre-order (especially if those people are located more than 20 or 30 miles away from an Apple retail location)

Wish I could just go get it at the Apple store downtown and just hand it to your kid, Scott.

[CTScott]

^ that's messed up! There is no reason for the delay with online ordering!!! :rolleyes:

I still don't understand why they wouldn't allow people to pre-order (especially if those people are located more than 20 or 30 miles away from an Apple retail location)

Wish I could just go get it at the Apple store downtown and just hand it to your kid, Scott.

I am tempted to head this evening to the apple store at the mall, which is only about 20 minutes from us, but I read an article this afternoon which already has sales projections for the ipad2 at above those of the original.

I really didn't think that the 2 would sell very well with how few differences there are over the 1, but apparently the apple zombies are out in force today...

[tomato]

if it's only 20 minutes, it's no big deal to check it out, but your kid might even be more disappointed if you return empty-handed than if you say "OK, the order is in, we'll get it around [that date]." You can always try. I would, if I really wanted it that bad! If nothing else, you get to play with it at the store. :iono:

Bring some Purrell with you ;) the iPad you touch in the store has probably been molested by 100 people before you get there ;

[tomato]

Yeah, there isn't a doubt in my mind that this second iPad will sell twice as well as the first gen. First of all because it's a revised version, so all the people who didn't want to buy a first generation product will jump on that one, and also because it's lighter and has a camera. All the teenagers are gonna want that camera to video chat. I don't care for the camera myself but lighter is always better. Your hands get tired of holding it after a while. I have no intention of trading in my iPad 1st Gen. but I do understand the lust for the new shiny device. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-love008.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

[CTScott]

if it's only 20 minutes, it's no big deal to check it out, but your kid might even be more disappointed if you return empty-handed than if you say "OK, the order is in, we'll get it around [that date]." You can always try. I would, if I really wanted it that bad! If nothing else, you get to play with it at the store. :iono:

Bring some Purrell with you ;) the iPad you touch in the store has probably been molested by 100 people before you get there ;


That's exactly why I was tempted, but won't actually go. And, for the purrel - You're not kidding. I think ebola originated from a keyboard or touch screen in an apple store.

[JumpmanYaris]

I am actually in line to get it @ a Walmart store got here @ 4 but they won't start selling them until 5 and already 5 people ahead of me and 3 behind me lol

[tomato]

You're gonna love it, Jumpman!

Maybe you can post a pic in this thread when you finally unbox it :)

[Altitude]

Maybe you can post a pic in this thread when you finally unbox it :)

Yeah, do a complete unboxing with photos. Or maybe a video with some stripper music. Just do it s.l.o.w.l.y so we can enjoy it... :wink:

[tomato]

Yeah, do a complete unboxing with photos. Or maybe a video with some stripper music. Just do it s.l.o.w.l.y so we can enjoy it... :wink:


^ Hahahahaha!!!! :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bow:

[JumpmanYaris]

Lol. They need to hurry, I am getting anxious like kid on Christmas

[tomato]

Another take on Apple and people standing in line for products

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/03/11/hype-around-apple-products/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=wall&utm_campaign=phonedog-cms

[JumpmanYaris]

Here it is ladies and gents but I havent turned on yet :laugh:

[tomato]

Well done!!! Is it charged up or not yet? You should plug it in and charge it first, if there is no juice.

I know when I got mine, it was a little bit charged already so all I had to do was turn it on from the top, but when I got my iPod it was dead out of the box, I had to let it charge first before I could play with it.

BTW, if you've never used one before and you want some help getting started, you can probably find unboxing videos on youtube and reviews from CNET , etc., telling you how to get started. Don't worry, it's very intuitive!

Good luck and hopefully the next picture you post has a YarisWorld screen :wink:

[JumpmanYaris]

Here We go:biggrin:

[JumpmanYaris]

Hi from my new iPad woooo lol

[JumpmanYaris]

Oh it had 91% of juice off the box

[tomato]

Here We go:biggrin:

Awwwww schweeeet!!!!! :headbang::clap::thumbup::thumbsup::headbang:

5 smileys for you!! hehehe

how do you like it so far?

typing on the tablet takes some getting used to, but if you hate it, you can always get a bluetooth keyboard to work with the iPad.

[tomato]

Have you tried syncing some stuff from Dani's computer to the iPad yet?

[tomato]

The truth finally comes out... PK has been fantasizing about the black iPad2

:wink:
j/k

[tomato]

I take this as a yes! :biggrin:

I wish they had continued the aluminum model.

[JumpmanYaris]

Apple Zombie!
lol

congrats :thumbsup:


but...why white..it seems wierd i prefer the black version

Hehehe they only had 3 black ones with 16 gb and 3 white 16 GB so I said hell with it. I was not about to pay 600 or 800 for something I never tried before

[JumpmanYaris]

Awwwww schweeeet!!!!! :headbang::clap::thumbup::thumbsup::headbang:

5 smileys for you!! hehehe

how do you like it so far?

typing on the tablet takes some getting used to, but if you hate it, you can always get a bluetooth keyboard to work with the iPad.

Tomato I like it so far it's like typing on a big ol phone lol

[JumpmanYaris]

how much was it? if you dont mind asking

Price was 499 but I paid less then that since my wife works there (10% off)

[CTScott]

Nice!

[KCALB SIRAY]

...hold on, I want to type faster, but my IBM PCXT is just catching up...what's an iPad?

[Shroomster]

^^^thats always a plus when buying a big ticket item at walmart....

HEY TOMATO I sent you a link for an image resizer ;) lol

[tomato]

Got it, thanks! Are you trying to tell me that my photo is too big?!! ;o)

[tomato]

Well.... ? do we have another happy gadget owner in these threads? :D

[frownonfun]

CTScott had a posting on his facebook saying he was dying to open his daughter's iPad that had just came in. I thought it was pretty amusing.

[CTScott]

After playing with hers last night side by side with my first gen, I am mighty tempted to upgrade. I never considered the 1st gen to be in the least bit slow, but the 2nd gen's speed is noticeably faster. Even things like installing apps from the app store on the device seem to be exponentially faster (and I would have thought that they were throttled by internet speed as opposed to processor speed). For example, loading Netflix on hers took less than 2 seconds, whereas on my 1st gen it took about 10 seconds. The weight and thickness differences are significant as well.

As soon as the untethered jailbreak is released for iOS 4.3, I may have to go for it...

[JumpmanYaris]

Yes it is really fast its faster then my laptop and thinner then the 1 st one I am actually pleased with it and that I got one

[detroiter]

I couldn't really justify spending an additional 4-500 dollars just because a program takes an additonal 8 seconds to load.


Ipad looks really sweet and wouldn't mind getting one but I guess for the money, I'd rather spend a bit more and actually get a macbook. Btw guys, microcenter is selling the 13" macbook pro duo core for $899 brand new. They are making room for the new intel 13"ers.

[tomato]

Hmmmm.... I guess it's time I head out to the Apple store and see for myself ;)

I've already told myself I'm not getting one, though. My next upgrade is a computer, not another iPad. But still.... nothing wrong with playing with one just to see ;)

[CTScott]

Hmmmm.... I guess it's time I head out to the Apple store and see for myself ;)

I've already told myself I'm not getting one, though. My next upgrade is a computer, not another iPad. But still.... nothing wrong with playing with one just to see ;)

You better bring your Purell and leave your credit card at home...

[tomato]

Hahahaha!!! +1 on the Purell!!! You know I always do... these devices are only as clean as the last 100 people who touched them, no offense ;)

I carry a mini-bottle of Purrel in my backpack because I take public transportation all the time, and if you think the iPad's surfaces have germs on them, you should see the poles in public transit! ;) At least they clean the iPads at night... still, every single time I leave the Apple store, I pull out the Purrell.

Unfortunately, I think Apple has my credit card on file by now.

I've been meaning to get a Mac for a while but I don't know, I'm still split. Win 7 is pretty good! (And I understand my Google docs aren't Mac compatible :iono:) Still... I know I'll be playing with that, too...

I guess it's only a matter of time now before the make the iMac a giant touchscreen, no?

[CTScott]

Hahahaha!!! +1 on the Purell!!! You know I always do... these devices are only as clean as the last 100 people who touched them, no offense ;)

I carry a mini-bottle of Purrel in my backpack because I take public transportation all the time, and if you think the iPad's surfaces have germs on them, you should see the poles in public transit! ;) At least they clean the iPads at night... still, every single time I leave the Apple store, I pull out the Purrell.

Unfortunately, I think Apple has my credit card on file by now.

I've been meaning to get a Mac for a while but I don't know, I'm still split. Win 7 is pretty good! (And I understand my Google docs aren't Mac compatible :iono:) Still... I know I'll be playing with that, too...

I guess it's only a matter of time now before the make the iMac a giant touchscreen, no?

Hey, I just realized that PK's been quiet for a couple of days! I guess he's probably pretty busy playing with his new iPad...

I have a 21" iMac that I bought as a factory refurb from Apple (I think that is the best way to buy any Apple product, as I don't like their quality policy and at least the refurbs have actually been tested). I have it on my desk as a 4th monitor, so to speak, and just use it for iphone/ipad development and on a daily basis as a monitor for my security system. I don't have any apps other than the dev tools on it.

[JumpmanYaris]

Lol some random guy told me an iPad3 is to come out on around summer time? Any speculative facts to tell?

I lol at him and said oh well I just wanted that one because I heard things about it and was curious

[JumpmanYaris]

Scott my wife has the 27" Mac that thing is stupid huge lol

[CTScott]

Lol some random guy told me an iPad3 is to come out on around summer time? Any speculative facts to tell?

I lol at him and said oh well I just wanted that one because I heard things about it and was curious

With how Apple does things I would definitely expect the iPad 3, either around Xmas or this time next year. When I bought my 1st gen one I knew the 2 would be out by now, but if I waited, I would have had an empty hand for a year.

It would be nice if Apple had a trade up program for existing customers.

I though about getting the 27", but it wouldn't have fit on my desk with my other three monitors. It really is a beast.

[tomato]

With how Apple does things I would definitely expect the iPad 3, either around Xmas or this time next year. When I bought my 1st gen one I knew the 2 would be out by now, but if I waited, I would have had an empty hand for a year.

It would be nice if Apple had a trade up program for existing customers.

I though about getting the 27", but it wouldn't have fit on my desk with my other three monitors. It really is a beast.

A good thing Apple doesn't have a trade up program!! We'd be in and out of the place every 3 months! :laugh::laugh:

Yeah, I thought about going the refurbished way, too. They have a little bit of everything:

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac

and you get the same warranty as if you bought it new, but you save a couple hundred dollars.

Refurbished computers are just fine, in fact, I haven't bought a new computer in ages, except my laptop, that was ordered new, but the last couple of desktops I had were second hand. I got my current desktop off Craigslist (it's an Optiplex, though and I felt more confident I could swap parts or troubleshoot). Not sure I'd able to troubleshoot anything on a Mac, though.

[tomato]

I will most likely wait until the xoom drops in price. I love Android too much :biggrin: although im not a fanboi of it. ..

:redface: *cough * * cough* :redface:

(try to sound like Jeff Foxworthy when you read this :wink:)

If you have

- an Android t-shirt
- a couple of Android desk buddies
- an "android peeing on apple" sticker on the side of your car
- a couple of Google t-shirts scored at promo events ...
- and if you use various Androids as your avatars on FB, Twitter, etc..

... does that make you a fanboi? hehehe :wink: :biggrin::biggrin:


(+ 1 on waiting for the Xoom to drop. You know it will, and the technology will get better, as well)

[tomato]

...

I though about getting the 27", but it wouldn't have fit on my desk with my other three monitors. It really is a beast.

You have 4 monitors?!! :clap::bow::bow::bow:

[tomato]

Passed by the Apple store today, around lunch time. There were 7 people lined up outside already ... waiting for tomorrow shipment!!!!!! WTF?!!!!

The Apple dude who let me play with his iPad at the door (I wanted to see how much lighter the new iPad is) was scratching his head too, I mean at this point, it's just a little bit ridiculous :iono:

The iPad 2 looks really nice in aluminum, but not nice enough to trade ;)

[Shroomster]

I'm still waiting for the htc pyramid....*sigh* lol...I mean for crying out loud I almost bought a $450 new receiver today...for $300 but wife talked me out of it.....

[JumpmanYaris]

hey y'all i a can use the mac's keyboard with the iPad2 this is kick ass yo lol

[tomato]

yeah, you can. That's what I'm using, a Mac bluetooth KB! It does rule. :headbang:

[frownonfun]

So someone told me something the other day that I thought was pretty amusing. Thought I would share. I guess it's Apple's new slogan...

You can buy better but you can't pay more.

[JumpmanYaris]

Can someone tell me how to upload pics from my iPad to Internet

[CTScott]

Can someone tell me how to upload pics from my iPad to Internet

That depends on where you are putting them. I use photobucket's free app for uploading pics to my photobucket account (and then bounce back and forth to safari to insert the picture link into this forum for example). With Tapatalk you can directly post pictures in threads on Micro Image, but this forum is not setup for its use.

[JumpmanYaris]

That depends on where you are putting them. I use photobucket's free app for uploading pics to my photobucket account (and then bounce back and forth to safari to insert the picture link into this forum for example). With Tapatalk you can directly post pictures in threads on Micro Image, but this forum is not setup for its use.

No comprendo. You do all this using ur iPad ?

[CTScott]

No comprendo. You do all this using ur iPad ?

Yes. With the iPad or iPhone, it is all about the apps. There's an app for doing just about anything.

[JumpmanYaris]

Lol I am so confused with all this but I'll figure it out

[frownonfun]

http://video.teamcoco.com/video/conan.jsp?oid=249469&eref=sharethisUrl