My First Vintage Receiver...

[sqcomp]

I felt that I had to take pics of my first vintage piece before it heads out to inner sound tomorrow morning:

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I'm loving this piece! It's even got the "2" bulb(s) not working and I still am enamored with it. My wife was complaining that she had to haul it inside...a 4'11" woman hauling in something that's half her size. The thing weighs 50 lbs...

She said she was waiting for Chrissy, Janet, and Jack to walk in the house to the Three's Company theme.

[big lo]

:laughabove:come on and knock on my door, I've been waiting for you, lol. Classic bro

[RedRide]

It reminds me when I had a "Sansui Seven" receiver with a pair of "JBL L100" speakers.
I eventually connected them to a 350 watt RMS per channel , Heathkit amp . Now, that was a monster! :smile:

[sqcomp]

I'm looking at picking up a Sansui AU-6500 amplifier here in a couple days. I've got a couple pairs of Hybrid Audio speakers that I'm making into a two way monitor setup.

[RedRide]

As far as I'm concerned the mid to late '70s were the golden days of audilo and a flat response was the holy grail.

Now, most people just want a bomming bass and they could care less about the overall qualty. They have no idea what a flat respose is. They think the sole purpose of a hight powerd amp is to make make speakers play louder.

I can't tell you how many times I have said to people that I want a flat frequency respose
and their reactions are usually something to the effect of "why do you want a flat sounding system"?.
They haven't a clue.

I remember when disco gained a foothold and then, all most people were interested in was a booming bass and it seems it's been that way ever since......
They want junk so, the manufactures sell them junk.

I'll take good analog audio from that era over poorly designed crap digital audio any day.

BTW, I recently bought this EQ from e-Bay for $10. That was not a bid, that is what they were selling it for.
The seller did not seem to know what its purpose really was for saying that they had no idea why someone would need that many tone controls. They probably were selling an older, deceased relative's equipment or something.
I don't know if I will ever use it where I'm presently living but, I could not pass it up for the price.

Then again, I just may use it for the 2.1 sys I'm currently putting togerher for my new TV that will also seve as all around system for music in my apartment.:smile:

[Hershey]

I had one of those equalizers years ago . The old Technics receivers had good sound . Have a TECHNICS SL-BD20D turntable that's put to use on occasion . We have 2 Harman Kardon receivers . The AVR 25 MK2 for the living room and the H/K 3250 2 channel in the bedroom . These receivers are close to 14 years old . Also have H/K FL8450 5 disc cdp and H/K DC 520 dual cassette deck . Speakers are SOUND DYNAMICS 300 ti for the H/K 25 along with SOUND DYNAMICS RTS C-1 center channel speaker . Sound Dynamics RTS 3 are for the H/K 3250 . Also have an AMC DAC8 in conjunction with the LCD tv , SONY 200 disc changer , KENWOOD 200 disc changer , satellite box , and PIONEER 5 disc dvdp .Use assortment of audio cables , video cables , and speaker wire . A few are NORDOST audio cables , DH LABS ( audio , speaker wire ) , MONSTER ( audio / video ) , STRAIGHTWIRE ( audio ) , TARA LABS speaker wire , RADIO SHACK audio / video cables , and some homemade audio / video cables .

[Hershey]

Like the SANSUII receiver . Enjoy . :headbang:

[andruboz]

I had an eq when i was 20 yrs old -1985 because i had one pair of EPI speakers and one pair of bose 201's and the eq was an attempt at trying to make both sound good at the same time. [ impossible really. I should have bought another pair of EPI's when i had the chance]

My eq had the light on each slider and a 10 band graphic level screen- lit up like a Tijuana disco.

i got $50 for it when i picked up a nice 2 speaker system with polks/carver/HK/yamaha. I shoulda never sold that stuff. i bet the carver cube is still working someplace.


nice sansuii, congrats.

[RedRide]

Yeah, I miss those days of walnut, glass and metal components.
Now, everything is plastic.

[tk1971]

Any pics of the inside of that Sansui?

I have a Fisher 400 with four 7868 tubes. When I got it, my wife couldn't believe the sound quality compared to all the current solid state stuff. Put on some good quality vocals and this thing sings (especially Christmas music).

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/tk1971/DSC_0231.jpg

[Shinare]

Growing up my dad had a Sansui 5000. I can remember as a kid loving to look at the lights and meters... One day it blew one of the amps out of it and my dad and I built another amp for it from a schematic and solid state components bought from radio shack. It worked for several months like that till the amp IC blew and let out the magic smoke. Purchased another amp chip and worked for less time and blew again. He tossed the whole thing in the trash after that. I think the amp IC's were pretty expensive for the time and he didnt want to mess with it anymore.

ahhh memories...

Sansui 5000
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[2manywheels]

This is a great thread!! HAHA
I was looking up some other "STUFF" and here I find this!
I will have to post up a few pics of my old DENON gear..
Yeah.. the actual quality sound of this gear compared to my new home theatre stuff. BOOO.. yeah. its loud.. yeah.. 9.2 channel blah blah..
But.. try 400 watts and LOW LOW THD!! NOT
I will go take a few pics now.. haha
Thanks for posting guys!

[2manywheels]

pics

[2manywheels]

I brought these into the office gym for workouts.. These and two vintage Celestion speakers.. 1950-60 vintage.. What a dumb@$$ I was..
Someone turned it up.. and.. Yeah.. u know what blown voice coil sounds like..
Now I have to rebuild them..

[Thirty-Nine]

Cool.

If anyone's interested, I'm about to sell a complete mid-1980s Bang/Olufsen 5000-series stereo system (which still sounds awesome).

[RedRide]

Back then, a Thorens tuntable was what you got if you could not afford a Bang/Olufsen.

BTW ....FWIW....
I just got an "Audiosource amp100" 2 ch amp to go with the EQ. It gets great reviews and can be had for under $100. It's a great very versitile amp with old fasioned quality for a simple stereo sys, HT, Zone 2 etc.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/frr.pl?ramps&1178725691&read&3&4

Quaity is stiil out there but, you have to really look for it through the haze of audio junk.

[severous01]

my first was a 67 jensen. it had 4' tall speakers with 2 8", 2 6", and 2 1" speakers in them. it was 100x2 + 100x2, had 2 inputs, one labeled track and one labeled phone. it was awesome.

my wife decided to destroy them when we got divorced.

[2manywheels]

Severous01....
Sounds like your ex and my ex were sisters..... :(

[47_MasoN_47]

Maybe it's just because I didn't grow up using this old stuff, but I'll stick to a digital setup. All the music I listen to (melodic death metal) sounds just fine on my modern equipment. Also, I don't care anything about bass (except for movies/video games). Don't even have a woofer in my car and don't plan on adding one.

[RedRide]

Maybe it's just because I didn't grow up using this old stuff, but I'll stick to a digital setup. All the music I listen to (melodic death metal) sounds just fine on my modern equipment. Also, I don't care anything about bass (except for movies/video games). Don't even have a woofer in my car and don't plan on adding one.

Well. perhaps if you hear a properly balanced, mid to high powered sys you would change your mind. :smile:.

As far as digital, 99% of all recorded sound (speech/instruments, etc) has an anilog origin and no matter what you may think, it does loose something when converted to digital, at least to the knowlegable ear on an accurate sysyem.
Even with "digital" amps, the sound quality they send to speakers can vary from very good to pure crap

You don't care about bass?
That must mean you don't care about 99% of all recorded content. All music contans the full spectrum of frequencys...... including "bass"/ lower frequencys.
I wish you can hear "death metal" on a good balenced sys as that type of progam content can be the most demanding.

BTW... metal with no bass frequencys? You must be kidding!!! :biggrin:

[47_MasoN_47]

Maybe, but I don't know anybody that has one anymore. I used to know a real audiophile but he died when I was young, and his kids unfortunately ravaged his system looking for stuff to sell. They ended up leaving it all there, but God only knows how to hook it back up. He had a whole wall full of boxes with levers on them in addition to the various players and whatnot, and I don't have the least idea how it was all connected.

Perhaps saying I don't care about bass was a bit strong, it was more aimed at the "all these young'ns wanna hear is boom boom boom" crowd. Yeah I like it to be there, but I don't need a subwoofer for it. The Alpine 6x9s I have in my car provide more than enough.

[RedRide]

It's like I said in a previous post ...... most people don't care about good audio any more so, the market is flooded with junk.

However, good audio and "real audiophiles" are still around. You just have to look for it.
It amazes me that people can put together a complete computer sys but have no idea how to set up, wire a simple 2 channel sound sys which is much simpler.

BTW, I'm from a era berfore the net/i-phones, etc when most everyone wanted good audio. I remember spending over $1500 on a sys in the mid 1970s.
That would be about $5000 in today's money.
Now people get a cheap $50, crap 2.1 sys and think they have a great sound sys.

People have become so used to crap sound that that maufacture are happy to sell it to them.

BTW the "sub' woofer orginally got its name due to the fact that it reproduced frequencys that were below (sub) the threshold of human hearing. Those freq are felt rather than heard and add realisim to music, etc. It was not intended to (and did not) add a "boomy" sound
However, with the advent of the PC, there was only room for very tiny speakers on the computer desk. So, a third (poor quality) remote speaker was added in an attempt to reproduce what the cheap, tiny speakers could not and the "modern" sub was born........ complete with a "boomy" sound.

[47_MasoN_47]

I'm sure I could appreciate something like a $5000 system, but I'm just not that into it. I could get a for real full auto Uzi for $5k, and I'd have a lot more fun with that lol. I have about 500 in my car's audio and about 700 in my home theatre system and they both do fine for me. I do enjoy when I get to work a show that has $50k in their audio setup, it makes running live metal shows and whatnot a blast when you can really rock the system and still get good clarity. I'm just not into it enough to spend a lot on my own stuff...

[RedRide]

Yeah, we spend cash on what's important to us.

[Hershey]

We've been in high end stereo shops and it's amazing how life like the sound is with multi $1,000 systems . If we only had the $ . :frown:

[RedRide]

You don't need thousands, Hundreds perhaps.
With audio you reach the point of "diminishing returns" long before you run out of funds. It just depends on what you want to/can spend.

The point is you have to do a bit of research to sort out the garbage from the good.
As with any product, there are always companys lined up to sell junk to the ill imformed consumer at inflated prices.

[turboecho2005]

I.setup high end audio video systems for a living. Been 10 years doing automation control and installation. Ive done multimillion dollar setups in museums, goverment and corporate companies. Recently finished a high end production studio and for the last 2 ive been doing high end audio video distribution and control in the residential market. Systems that are over 100k+... Speakers that cost $16000 just for 2 left and right...

And NOTHING beats the warm sounding tube amps... Period

99% of todays amps are garbage. If youre buying them at future shop or best buy then you are getting digital garbage. But solid state is cheap to make thats why the way of the tube will slowly die

[47_MasoN_47]

When doing metal shows I vastly prefer the guitarist to have a tube amp. Those things sound awesome!

[Thirty-Nine]

how much 20k?:biggrin:

cause Bang/Olufsen are used to being sold for some nice change. If i had the money I would buy their whole setup:thumbsup:

I have no idea what to ask for it. It's a complete setup (sans CD player) from 1985 or 1986. I should probalby look into it. I know it's a Beomaster 5000 series system.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/Tekka_Maki/2010-11-26-1216.jpg

[RedRide]

^

The "Beomaster 5000" is a Bang & Olufsen sys.
So, it's quality.

Eaxctly what components do you have?

[Thirty-Nine]

^

The "Beomaster 5000" is a Bang & Olufsen sys.
So, it's quality.

Eaxctly what components do you have?

All are 5000 series:

BeoGram 5005 Turntable (type 5923)
BeoCord 5000 Cassete player (although it is not working)
BeoMaster 5000 Tuner (type 2323)
Master Control Panel 5000
Beovox S45 Speakers
All the literature and cords

The reciever has this hidden control pannel, but it is stuck in the open position.

[RedRide]

Why are you selling it?
It's all hiigh qulity stuff even by todays standards.

[Hershey]

What do any of you use for speaker wire , interconnect cables , video cables , etc. ? Tweaks too .

[Thirty-Nine]

Why are you selling it?
It's all hiigh qulity stuff even by todays standards.

It's actually my stepmom's, and I'm helping her sell it. It has been sitting in a closet for years; they just don't use it. I'd take it, but I really don't have a good place for it in our small house (and we've already got a stereo system).

[sickpuppy1]

Send it to me. I have some nice Klipsch speakers looking for better front end....

[Viperoni]

I'm slowly piecing together a stereo computer audio system that will go roughly like so:

Some sort of digital -> analog audio interface for a clean source signal
Behringer DSP1124 ("feedback destroyer" doing EQ duties)
Some sort of crossover, I'd love a Behringer DCX2496 that has adjustable slopes and time alignment

To start off with, I'll have a HT receiver powering:
DIY speakers with: Tangband 4" FR's and Vifa 3/4" concentric ring radiator tweets

And a Behringer EP2500 powering:
DIY sub with: 15" Sound Solutions Audio Xcon... SQ sub with a 3" coil and over 2 inches of linear excursion

[RedRide]

^
That "sounds" great.
I believe I know the exact speakers you are refering to.

BTW, I'm a Tang Band fan.
In fact, I got a "Tang Band W8-740P" that is going in a sub I'm putting together for a TV/ MM sound sys.

As far as a digital to anilog convertor, perhaps this is what you are looking for:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=180-998

[Hershey]

I use the AMC DAC 8 for a converter . Good sounding unit for around $200 . Have had it for about 14 years now .

[Viperoni]

^
That "sounds" great.
I believe I know the exact speakers you are refering to.

BTW, I'm a Tang Band fan.
In fact, I got a "Tang Band W8-740P" that is going in a sub I'm putting together for a TV/ MM sound sys.

As far as a digital to anilog convertor, perhaps this is what you are looking for:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=180-998

They're TB w4-657s's, not bad little FR's... I'd love to try the Bamboo model or something like the Fountek's, but that's another speaker haha.

I've always liked that sub, looks beefy as heck! Great excursion too for an 8.
Do you have anything else TB?
I put a pair of W4-654's in a ex's rear deck lid and they worked pretty well, perfect for rear fill (no bass and slightly rolled off highs lol).

I'd like something a little more proven than that... there's a Behringer unit (FCA-202 I think) that connects with Firewire, but also the Creative EMU usb unit that's supposed to be awesome... good hit on the wallet too unfortunatly.

[RedRide]

^
Isn''t the TB-4675 discontinued?

I presently got a pair of "Tang Band W3-881SJ" (3" shieded FR-8ohm) that I was going to use as the mid driver along with a Vifa silk dome tweeter for the MM sys.
However, I acquired a pair of "Polk monitor-30" speakers I'm using instead.

So, the,W3-881SJ" are going in my Klipsk 2.1 sys connected to my computers in another room. They are supposed to be a dop in replacement and give a nice improvement in sound.
IMO a good 3" speaker is all you need for a computer sys if you have a good sub unless you are going for extremely loud volumes.
A dedicated speaker for a high end stereo sys is a different story however.

BTW, I have read mixed reviews about the TB bamboo cone driver. Some like it while others say the bamboo colores the sound.