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dallas_mike

03-09-2011, 09:17 AM

I currently have MI springs, Tokico Blues, 23mm MI rear sway bar, and 13mm rear hub spacers.

For me, the ride is too stiff. The handling is great. I like the lowered look.
Although the car does not "bounce", you do feel all up and down movement of the front end. Potholes and rough roads are manageable. The car is very responsive. I am going to switch springs.

I am looking for input.

I have done the reseach, and I am still confused.
It looks like the DF210's sag over time.

What is your experience with the TRD or Megan Racing Springs?

Any other suggestions. I would prefer a progressive spring, if possible.

Also, anyone in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, I will make you a great deal on a set of MI springs.

Thanks!

Dperry

03-09-2011, 10:59 AM

well just from reading other threads about suspension...ur goin to loose some drop cuz tein, and mi springs r the lowest. i think overall ur shocks are goin to make the biggest change in ride comfort. garm told me the tokico blues r stiffer than the trd. im sure others will have more opinions and be able to give u more options and feedback.

thebarber

03-09-2011, 11:08 AM

go trd

ive driven on megan coilovers, eibach prokits, megan springs, trd springs, and im currently on eibach sportlines.

trd or sportlines are the best for drop and comfort, but trd's are cheaper

detroiter

03-09-2011, 11:35 AM

i love my teins

cali yaris

03-09-2011, 03:51 PM

Although the car does not "bounce", you do feel all up and down movement of the front end.

I could've sworn you told me the car was "bouncy". No matter, your description makes sense for a stiffer spring. Anyways, I haven't heard of the Tanabe springs sagging. Mine sure didn't, had them on over a year. The DF210's would be the same drop you have now but softer.

Progressive springs are H&R, also a good choice, but a milder drop than you have now.

annn

03-09-2011, 04:10 PM

I run prokits with tokico reds...unless you just want a look... to low can be a problem as you have found out. I have a slammed excort gt and it's useless except for a quick run to a close store.

dallas_mike

03-09-2011, 08:08 PM

I could've sworn you told me the car was "bouncy".
Per our conversation, I did use the word "bouncy"
It does not "bounce" in a sense that it is out of control, or "just going up and down" because the strut can't control the spring.

I had a Nissan where the strut could not contol the spring. The tires "cupped" in about 2500 miles. This is not the same sensation.

The better term is "it follows the road" and the roads are not smooth.
The car sticks like glue. When traveling down the highway at night, you can see the headlights raise and lower as it shines on signs in the distance.

It seems to be more of a problem on concrete roads, rather than asphalt.

Anyways, I haven't heard of the Tanabe springs sagging.

Read the following, you responded

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23135&highlight=king+sagging

dallas_mike

03-09-2011, 08:19 PM

go trd

ive driven on megan coilovers, eibach prokits, megan springs, trd springs, and im currently on eibach sportlines.

trd or sportlines are the best for drop and comfort, but trd's are cheaper

TRDs are 1.5", correct?

annn

03-09-2011, 08:39 PM

TRDs are 1.5", correct?

Yes same as prokits

matthewai

03-09-2011, 09:21 PM

i have the mi springs and stock shocks they look great, makes the cars lines look way better and cleaner . i feel like the ride is nice and not to much of a jump from stock springs its not real stiff but still has as you said "bounce" to it but not necessarily "bouncy" but still stiffer than stock also have the 19mm rsb dont know how much of a difference the 23 is but i dont think it would be to much ... but that makes the biggest difference when turning

thebarber

03-09-2011, 10:22 PM

beZzZ on trd's and miata 16's, 205-45-16
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/adrienneho/Our%20Vitz/DSC_0764.jpg

billiam on trd's and scion 15's and 205-55-15
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/BlkS/IMG_3760.jpg

detroiter

03-10-2011, 01:09 AM

does 205-55-15's rub if your lowered, primarily on teins?

cali yaris

03-10-2011, 01:35 AM

Read the following, you responded
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...t=king+sagging

I think I've sold about 50 sets of those. I guess 49 of those customers have been pretty happy (and haven't reported sagging). Nor did I experience any with them on my own car, driving it hard and racing it.

The purpose here it so provide you with information so you can make your own choice.

dallas_mike

03-10-2011, 08:43 AM

The purpose here it so provide you with information so you can make your own choice.

Yes, and I thank all of you for the information.
Looking forward to receiving the UDP.
Rims, Header and exhaust, headlights are next.

WeeYari

03-10-2011, 08:59 AM

TRDs are 1.5", correct?

Yes same as prokits

Wrong.

TRD is ~ 1.25"
Prokit is ~ 1.00"

annn

03-10-2011, 01:20 PM

Wrong my prokits are at final settle of 1.6 rear and 1.8 front..

cali yaris

03-10-2011, 01:35 PM

I got 1.5" from TRD springs when they were on my car.

We also haven't discussed exactly how them measurement is made, some people may be doing it differently than others.

Like so many other things there may not be an exact correct answer for all installations.

Imagine

03-10-2011, 01:39 PM

I personally like to measure from the center of the wheel well before and after. Of course, you have to use the same wheels, etc. lol

annn

03-10-2011, 02:06 PM

I started measure at stock springs installed. I measured over a few months.

I went from a known spot on a level floor to the bottom of the fender lip, with a tape measure.

So mine went from stock height to 1.8 inches lower from stock measurement.

thebarber

03-10-2011, 02:27 PM

I personally like to measure from the center of the wheel well before and after. Of course, you have to use the same wheels, etc. lol

um, not really

thats why you measure center for wheel to top of the fender opening...

WeeYari

03-10-2011, 06:17 PM

So mine went from stock height to 1.8 inches lower from stock measurement.

That is one hell of a lot of settling for a spring with a published drop of 1 inch.

annn

03-10-2011, 06:30 PM

Yea in fact it dropped more than my partner initially wanted, shes still a bit iffy on it.

195 60 15 barely fit..

WeeYari

03-10-2011, 06:37 PM

I personally know two people who ran Prokit. Drop never moved much from 1 inch spec. Are you sure they are Prokit. Black springs?

annn

03-10-2011, 06:44 PM

I personally know two people who ran Prokit. Drop never moved much from 1 inch spec. Are you sure they are Prokit. Black springs?

yes got from garm matellic black prokits...they are blue now but only cause i re dipped them to match car.The rear seattled a lot,I like the slight rake but hope they are done DROPPING.

WAY BEFORE
http://i52.tinypic.com/2zewdbc.jpg
BEFORE TOTAL SETTLE
http://i56.tinypic.com/kd99j8.jpg
AFTER
http://i55.tinypic.com/4zwxux.jpg

annn

03-10-2011, 06:56 PM

JUST took this pic...the eibach logo can be seen.

http://i54.tinypic.com/20782on.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/35d1cpf.jpg

thebarber

03-11-2011, 09:24 AM

i ran prokits for the winter last winter and like weeyari said, they didnt really budge from a 1" drop...

thebarber

03-11-2011, 09:25 AM

i ran prokits for the winter last winter and like weeyari said, they didnt really budge from a 1" drop...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/yaris/prokits/100_6855.jpg

annn

03-11-2011, 12:23 PM

I have no clue. Maybe my car was extra 4x4 from factory lol

dallas_mike

03-13-2011, 09:06 AM

Thanks for all the advice. I puchsed the TRD spings from trdsparks.
They arrived yesterday. I put them on. I am pleased with ride.
They are not as low as I would like, but they will do for the time being.

Next change is exhaust.
Anyone selling their Thunder Axle back?
If so, send me an IM.

Flipper_1938

03-13-2011, 10:41 AM