Progress 22mm Rear Sway Bar PRE-ORDER SPECIAL

[03Z33]

Look for the Progress Rear Sway bar out in 8-12 weeks.

[largeorangefont]

Can we pick these up for any cheaper?

[03Z33]

Can we pick these up for any cheaper?

I'm looking into this since they have to charge CA State sales tax to local customers the price is pretty much the same, but I'll confirm and PM you.

[Chris07LB]

Nice! :clap:

[03Z33]

Nice! :clap:

Thanks, so are you in or are you in :iono: :wink:

[kngrsll]

sweet, im in.

[03Z33]

sweet, im in.

Thanks! Now if we can just spread the word and get others to join in :biggrin:

[acrbill]

Does it include everything to complete the install like mounting tabs, links and bushings?

If so $140 is a damn steal! For the PT cruiser the install kit itself was $100.

I am definitely in for $140 but I will not send any money until I know for a fact that they will be produced and have a tentative ship date. I have seen way too many group buys go bad to risk anything.


Come one people! Lets get this done. A rear sway bar on a sway bar less car will make HUGE improvements in handling. You will thank 03z33 when you are keeping up with sports cars on the off ramps.

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[03Z33]

This includes the mounting brackets which bolt up to the spring cups. It's a very simple install and everything needed including instructions is included.

They are running more sway bars next week, and if we get enough interest they will run these at the same time, which should allow us to see them in 4 weeks. I allowed for up to 6 weeks in case people take longer to pay. Of course all payment will be fully refundable if delivery takes longer than anticipated.

[Chris07LB]

Hummmm.... im still thinking.

[03Z33]

Hummmm.... im still thinking.

No problem :tongue: Just let me know if you have any questions :thumbsup:

I know a lot of people on here have money tied up in other specials and mods.. My goal is to get my suspension dialed in first since this is what I look for the most in a car. That's why I'm pushing for this to get done. Like Bill says you won't regret going with a rear sway bar, Toyota really cheaped out by leaving the sway bar off our cars.

[Chris07LB]

:thumbsup: will do.

[acrbill]

Are the 15 people required to get the reduced price or to see if there is enough interest to build them at all?

Does anyone know what our front sway bar options are?

[eco]

Im also thinking about gettin in on this,if it comes to a point where theres 13 people,and you need 2 more,deffinitly count me in.

[eco]

No hold on,I dont think it will fit in my signiture,count me out...........J/K.

[ASHRAF]

can I see some pics

I am thinking about it

[03Z33]

Are the 15 people required to get the reduced price or to see if there is enough interest to build them at all?

We need to get a minimum of 15 people for this reduced pricing and to help speed up the production. They would still make the bar if we don't get enough people, but the purpose of this pre-order is to prove to Progress that there is interest in this product as well as help them justify speeding up production. So far, no other company has shown interest or even mentioned offering a rear sway bar for the Yaris. Progress have already completed the development of this product and just need to put it into production.

Does anyone know what our front sway bar options are?

I ordered a C-One front sway bar from Bulletproof, it should be here in Feb. The stock front swaybar is actually pretty good already, but I'd like to try out the bigger one to compare. Cusco also offer a stiffer front sway bar. I wouldn't touch the stock front sway bar unless you already have a rear bar, upgrading the front without adding a rear first is a sure fire recipe for unmanageable understeer.

Im also thinking about gettin in on this,if it comes to a point where theres 13 people,and you need 2 more,deffinitly count me in.

Sounds good. Should I add you to the list for now?

[03Z33]

can I see some pics

I am thinking about it

I don't have any pics of the actual Yaris sway bar that will go into production. It is very similar to the sway bars on other cars such as the Corolla and Scion, you can view these on the Progress website here:

www.progressauto.com

Here's a link to a pic of one of their other sway bar kits (Yaris will only have the one rear bar):

http://www.progressauto.com/store/images/RSXCIV~1.JPG

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/2/progress-swaybrs.jpg

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[03Z33]

dngz, thanks for joining! I added you to the original post too :)

[spkrman]

so this bolts right into place?

[punch]

yeah i have a question, you say it bolts to the stock spring cups? is that the top of the springs, inside the trunk/hatch or outside the car underneath??? I don't want anything taking up my trunk space.

[03Z33]

so this bolts right into place?

yeah i have a question, you say it bolts to the stock spring cups? is that the top of the springs, inside the trunk/hatch or outside the car underneath??? I don't want anything taking up my trunk space.

The bar bolts underneath the vehicle to the rear trailing arm to reduce twist in the arm. It won't take up any room inside the car.

This is honestly going to be one of the simplest installs on this car, it shouldn't take more than 20 min. and simple hand tools. You probably won't even have to remove the wheels. Here is a picture of the bar on the Scion Xb/Xa:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/747/screenshot3130nf.jpg

Keep in mind that the Scion had a sway bar built into the stock trailing arm also, which we don't even have. This is going to make a big improvement on our cars!

Punch, thanks for the PM! I added you to the list :thumbsup:

[woof]

woof is seriously, seriously interested. Right now, you're saying $140 delivered, right? Well, will it come with photographic instructions?

[kngrsll]

sway bar install's are one of the easiest mod's to do really.

oh, ive got a friend with a yaris, he seems intrested. i sent him the link to the thread, but he isnt that great with the internet so i may be doing all that for him, so we will see. ill try and contact him again and see whats up.

[dngz]

i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!

[acrbill]

i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!

There is no stock rear sway bar.

I sure hope that its a bit more involved than the sway bar for the Scion since that sure doesn't look like it is going to do anything. Its a bar that is attached to a solid rear beam axle and nothing else. Seems like it would be like trying to stiffen a pencil by gluing a tooth pick to it. You would think it would be mounted to the chassis at some point.

[Doc Zaius]

Is the progress rear sway bar going to be similar to the one in this article? sway bar for prius (http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2359/article.html).

After reading that article, I understand how the bar would reduce understeer, which is good (to a point). But how would it work in connection with (or instead of) an front upper strut bar?

Thanks!

[03Z33]

woof is seriously, seriously interested. Right now, you're saying $140 delivered, right? Well, will it come with photographic instructions?

Yes, the price includes shipping! We may even be able to reduce the price a little more if we can get more than 25 people signed up. It includes instructions with pictures, and I will be posting instructions on the forums once I install mine.

sway bar install's are one of the easiest mod's to do really.

oh, ive got a friend with a yaris, he seems intrested. i sent him the link to the thread, but he isnt that great with the internet so i may be doing all that for him, so we will see. ill try and contact him again and see whats up.

Sounds good! Just let us know if he want's in.

i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!

That's the point! There is no stock sway bar :laugh: This really will be as simple as just a few bolts, but it really does make a big difference.

There is no stock rear sway bar.

I sure hope that its a bit more involved than the sway bar for the Scion since that sure doesn't look like it is going to do anything. Its a bar that is attached to a solid rear beam axle and nothing else. Seems like it would be like trying to stiffen a pencil by gluing a tooth pick to it. You would think it would be mounted to the chassis at some point.

It actually is very similar to the Scion design. If you study some other cars with similar trailing arm rear suspensions you'll find that this is the most effective way of controlling roll in the rear. The trailing arm is designed with a certain amount of flex/twist from the factory and this arm will help reduce the flex and minimize the roll allowing the car to corner flatter with less deflection in the rear end. Even the stock VW/Scion sway bars are mounted the same way.

Is the progress rear sway bar going to be similar to the one in this article? sway bar for prius (http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2359/article.html).

After reading that article, I understand how the bar would reduce understeer, which is good (to a point). But how would it work in connection with (or instead of) an front upper strut bar?

Thanks!

That's a very good article, thanks for sharing! Our bars will be very similar to that one (except they'll bend backwards towards the spring/shock like the picture above). I actually had one of the straight style ones on my VW before and it works well, but requires you to drill holes in the trailing arm which would complicate the install for most. I think the way Progress do it is better for most do it yourself installers. I can't believe they charge $285 for that bar!

The front strut bar, rear strut bar (upper), and other chassis reinforcement bars can help improve your handling also by reducing chassis twist. Most of the ones that go on the front, will theoretically increase chances of understeer and bars that go on the back should increase oversteer. In my oppinion, the rear sway bar is by far the most effective one from the above mentioned bars.

largeorangefont is now confirmed, let me know if anyone else wants in!

[Chris07LB]

i dont think it is that simple... u gotta remove the stock sway bar first!

Er, what "stock sway bar?" :confused:

[03Z33]

Er, what "stock sway bar?" :confused:

Haha, give him a break :wink: It's not his fault Toyota cheaped out THAT MUCH and didnt' even install a rear sway bar on these cars! :laugh: I wouldn't believe they still made cars without rear sway bars if I didn't own one myself :biggrin:

[dngz]

HAHAHA my bad!! i just assumed the yaris would have one!

[dansides]

ACRBILL add me to list for rear sway bar tks dansides

[cdydjded]

Count me in!:thumbup:

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[03Z33]

Added dansides and cdydjded to the list, Thanks!

[punch]

did you see trd now has a rear sway bar for us?

[Doc Zaius]

did you see trd now has a rear sway bar for us?

Ya... I'm wondering how much that would cost. Perhaps double the price for the Progress bar?

[acrbill]

Ya... I'm wondering how much that would cost. Perhaps double the price for the Progress bar?

I would rather have a bar that is connected to the shock mount than the spring cup. Its probably considerably more than I am willing to spend though.

[03Z33]

Both bars are going to be pretty much identical. It doesn't matter what part of the trailing arm you bolt up to, it's all one piece. I'm not even sure exactly where the Progress bar bolts up to yet, until I see a pic of the prototype.

I called 3 dealers and TRD-USA today and no one has a clue about a TRD sway bar? TRD-USA said "we don't make one" and when I asked "are you sure, because someone on the forums has it?" his reply is "maybe it's someone elses?"

One of the three dealers said they may be able to get one for the Sedan only and there's no ETA? I asked for the price (knowing that if it fits the Sedan it will fit the hatchback also) and he said retail is $260 and he would sell it to me for $240 plus tax... I really hate dealing with the dealers :confused:

If anyone that's on the list decides they don't want to wait for the Progress bar and want to try to get the TRD bar, that's fine. I'm planning to wait for the Progress bar, since it's most likely going to be very similar for half the price.

[punch]

Both bars are going to be pretty much identical. It doesn't matter what part of the trailing arm you bolt up to, it's all one piece. I'm not even sure exactly where the Progress bar bolts up to yet, until I see a pic of the prototype.

I called 3 dealers and TRD-USA today and no one has a clue about a TRD sway bar? TRD-USA said "we don't make one" and when I asked "are you sure, because someone on the forums has it?" his reply is "maybe it's someone elses?"

One of the three dealers said they may be able to get one for the Sedan only and there's no ETA? I asked for the price (knowing that if it fits the Sedan it will fit the hatchback also) and he said retail is $260 and he would sell it to me for $240 plus tax... I really hate dealing with the dealers :confused:

If anyone that's on the list decides they don't want to wait for the Progress bar and want to try to get the TRD bar, that's fine. I'm planning to wait for the Progress bar, since it's most likely going to be very similar for half the price.


goes to show you what trd usa knows, sparks toyota has it listed now... and its cheap, you can take me off your preliminary list, I'm sticking with trd, thanks

[largeorangefont]

Is progress planning to do springs and or coilovers as well or do you know?

If so, PM me. I'd be interested in donating my car for R&D

Ashley

[largeorangefont]

goes to show you what trd usa knows, sparks toyota has it listed now... and its cheap, you can take me off your preliminary list, I'm sticking with trd, thanks


The TRD bar was on the toyota site a couple months ago. It is not on there anymore, nor are the springs and struts. I have been very impressed with Progress suspension products in the past. I'm in for the Progress part.

[woof]

I had a Progress rear sway on my xB and it had no mounting points. It free floated and was attached to the underside of the swing arms. When I looked at my Yaris hatch on the rack it looked a lot smaller up in there so I'm not sure if there is enough clearance for a "free floating" sway.

BTW, the Progress worked miracles for the xB. Unless you just want to spend money, it's the only suspension mod you need.

Go ahead and put me on the list.

-- WOOF :thumbup:

[eco]

Ok,I still havnt decided,I need to know some real demensions,because Ive got a 2.5" custom cat. back exhaust,and the piping sites lower,about an inch lower then stock,plus I have a fart can NOPI style muffler(actually sounds deep,almost like a flowmaster thunder series muffler)so I dont know if it will fit,but I guess you can put me on the list for now.

[03Z33]

Is progress planning to do springs and or coilovers as well or do you know?

If so, PM me. I'd be interested in donating my car for R&D

Ashley

I believe they have a test car already, they said so when I offered my car for the sway bar testing. I'll ask about springs and coilovers tomorrow.

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[Black Yaris]

dumb question, but how exactly does the rear sway bar work when it is attached to the rear dead axle only?

[03Z33]

Not dumb at all, the rear trailing arm is designed to twist, by adding the bar you are stiffening the arm and reducing the excess twist which will help minimize body roll and will help transfer weight to the outside wheel in turns.

[acrbill]

I decided to go with the TRD bar so you can take me off the list.

[ItsMyDaily]

Let me know when there is a front/rear set and I'm all for it.

[03Z33]

I decided to go with the TRD bar so you can take me off the list.

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Let me know when there is a front/rear set and I'm all for it.


I don't know if there are plans to do a front sway bar at this time, there are other front sway bars available from C-One, Cusco, etc... which will work well with this rear sway bar.

I just recieved an update from Progress and it seems that production is going to take longer than I originally estimated. The soonest we can see these finished bars is 12 weeks from now and I don't feel comfortable collecting anyones money for that long, so I'm going to put this on hold for now. Please continue to update me if you are interested, or if you want to be removed from the list, and I'll be updating everyone once the bars are closer to completion.

[Nimble]

Does the yaris come with one stock? I didn't see one in the rear, I know we have one in the front though.

[03Z33]

Yaris does not have rear sway bar stock.

[spkrman]

wow 12 weeks, dam. I can see more than a few goin with TRD now.

[Nimble]

Yaris does not have rear sway bar stock.

Thanks, so do you have a aftermarket rear one installed? I bet it would make a tremendous diference.

[Chris07LB]

Thanks, so do you have a aftermarket rear one installed? I bet it would make a tremendous diference.

Hence the reason of this post.... :rolleyes:

Progress and TRD (more expensive) seems to be the only two so far.

[Nimble]

Hence the reason of this post.... :rolleyes:

Progress and TRD (more expensive) seems to be the only two so far.

Woops. Reading > Me. :frown:

[Nimble]

Oh, right, and I'm in at $140 shipped.

[dansides]

ordered r-sway from sparks today please take me off list tks:rolleyes:

[Chris07LB]

Whats the reason for guys ordering the more expensive TRD Sway Bars lately? Is it the time frame, that they can be had now, or are some fooled into thinking a part other then something, "Toyota TRD" will void your car's warranty? :iono:

[acrbill]

Whats the reason for guys ordering the more expensive TRD Sway Bars lately? Is it the time frame, that they can be had now, or are some fooled into thinking a part other then something, "Toyota TRD" will void your car's warranty? :iono:

The price difference is negligible. I like the location the TRD bolts to more than the site where the progress car will be.

I decided to hold off on a rear bar until winter is over with so I still might end up with the progress bar.

[Chris07LB]

My guess is that the TRD bar wasn't available when the Progress Rear Bar was announced...And it's fairly close in price, in my case $152 USD +$18 shipping...

As for warranty, everyone should read the Magnusson Moss Act if they are concerned...

Cheers

I push the Magnusson Moss Act until im blue in the face, on every forum i'm apart of.... I was just wondering why all of a sudden the interest in a TRD product, over the "sometimes" even better designed aftermarket product. I hope a few of the guys with the different sways will be posting up lots of before and after installed pics and comparo's for all of us still on the fence.

:thumbsup:

[dansides]

the trd was 20.00 more total i just wanted it asap would have gotten other bar if had been available :burnrubber:

[magoo_lc1]

No yaris yet but dam i wish i did have one. Thats cheap. A progress sway for front or back for my se-r that was lost this year was like 250 each. Just wanted to chime in and say progress rocks! If this is still going when i buy my hatch and sedan in april which it looks like it might be i might pick me up a couple.

[eTiMaGo]

I'm not yet sure which way I'm gonna sway...





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[spkrman]

I'm not yet sure which way I'm gonna sway...





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[Chris07LB]

that was bad dude, lol. :laugh:

[ChinoCharles]

... and he lives in Bangkok. :bonk:

[woof]

Progress is shooting themselves in the foot. They should have been bright enough to make a batch for enthusiastic fans who want a bar from them--hell, we're the ones who yack it up all over the place!

Oh well, keep me on the list for now but I gotta take a look at the TRD bar now.

[woof]

Well, I waited as long as I could. Just had a TRD rear sway installed this morning. Looks like I come of the list.

[jamal1984]

Honestly which one is easy to install? anyone? I really don't care about 20 dollars different, but Progress said it's very easy to install their product for around 20 minutes, but how about TRD?

[jamal1984]

trdsparks said their sway bar will take less than 10 minutes with no drillings? Sound better ha? but $152 plus shipping kindda way more expensives.

[ChinoCharles]

Neither is easy to install. I'd bet 400 bucks if you try to install your own springs you're taking one to the face. Pounds and pounds of pent up force... leave it to the real mechanics.

[acrbill]

Neither is easy to install. I'd bet 400 bucks if you try to install your own springs you're taking one to the face. Pounds and pounds of pent up force... leave it to the real mechanics.

LOFL! You are such a woman! The rear sway bar is a 10 min job that involves loosening and tightening a few bolts.You will need to rent a spring compressor for the springs but its certainly not rocket science.

[ChinoCharles]

LOFL! You are such a woman! The rear sway bar is a 10 min job that involves loosening and tightening a few bolts.You will need to rent a spring compressor for the springs but its certainly not rocket science.

EDIT: I'll spare you the flaming Bill.

If you have no experience with a spring compressor, this is a hard install. That should cover, oh, most everybody.

Of course, Bill knows all. Sorry for insulting your mechanical skills. Oh wait, thats right, I didn't.

[Chris07LB]

Even a caveman could install springs using my DIY.

[acrbill]

EDIT: I'll spare you the flaming Bill.

If you have no experience with a spring compressor, this is a hard install. That should cover, oh, most everybody.

Of course, Bill knows all. Sorry for insulting your mechanical skills. Oh wait, thats right, I didn't.

The first time I ever installed springs on a car I had never worked with a spring compressor. Its pretty freeking self explanatory. If you can get the strut assembly off the car the spring compressor part is cake.

[Toymaniac]

LOFL! You are such a woman! The rear sway bar is a 10 min job that involves loosening and tightening a few bolts.You will need to rent a spring compressor for the springs but its certainly not rocket science.

the rear suspension does not need a spring compressor to be dismantled...

the front yes but not the rear...

and the sway bar realy only takes 10 min to instal....

[jamal1984]

is this really help when your car is running on stock springs and struts?

[FlintS]

Bump for progress. I have had this bar from them on my car for about 4 months.. awesome product...

[Toymaniac]

Bump for progress. I have had this bar from them on my car for about 4 months.. awesome product...


where in the hell did you buy it??


i emailed progress they said its not even out yet:help:

[brickhardmeat]

I say go with TRD. Doesn't look like Progress is ever going to release the sway.

[punch]

where in the hell did you buy it??


i emailed progress they said its not even out yet:help:

there is a part number for it out in the 2007 catalogue

[03Z33]

FlintS is probably the original test car they used to prototype this. Makes sense since he's local to them.

The bar development is done, they are just backed up in production. Last I spoke with them they said it wouldn't be for 8 more weeks.

[FlintS]

This is true... My car was with them to build the bar and springs.... They got backed up with the supplier of their metal to build the bars sooner... It will be well worth the wait though. The springs I have not heard anything new in a while....

[jamal1984]

i ran into somewebsite the other day and here is what i found

Toyota 2006+ Yaris - Progress Technology Rear Sway Bar 22mm 62.2140 >> Progress Technology Rear Anti-sway bar

IS IT The one?

[newedgeperf]

Progress is still backed up in production, I have the Yaris bars on order, but it is going to be a while before they are available. Progress has had some success with some of their new applications and they are working hard to keep up with demand...a good problem to have!

This does not surprise me as Progress makes great suspension products.

Tony D