TRD OR Eibach...i'm confused...

[hoahmaru]

This is a question for those who have installed Toyota factory lowering springs....

Are the lowering springs offered by toyota from Eibach or TRD? I was talking to the salesguy today in the accessories department at toyota and he told me their the same. He said Eibach is the manufacturer and TRD is just the label name. I have read on some of the thread here that the lowering springs that people are getting at the toyota factory are Eibach springs and not TRD springs. For me I really like the look of the factory lowering springs that people are getting, I just wanted to make sure that I'am getting the right springs from the dealership. So for example, if I wanted those Eibach springs do I ask them for it or are the TRD springs the Eibach springs????

Sorry to make this kind of confusing...I just want to make sure that I'am getting the right product if I'am gonna pay $600 bucks for it.

[Goose]

I don't own the springs, but maybe I can help you out.

Eibach is a major spring manufacturer, supplying springs for many OEM's - from truck manufacturers to Formula One teams. TRD is the brand name for Toyota's performance division, like Honda's Mugen and Nissan's Nismo.

It is very possible that TRD's springs are made by Eibach to TRD's specs - which are then branded as TRD springs. This situation is probably true for the TRD struts as well; I can only guess, but I'll bet Tokico or Showa manufacture TRD's struts to their specs and then TRD brands 'em.

If you go to an official Toyota Dealer and ask for TRD parts, you should be okay. To be really sure, you could always ask to see the box before they install 'em. :smile:

[riceboy]

There's nothing to indicate the spring manufacturer on the box, it's just a plain corrugated cardboard box. From my understanding they are Eibach's branded to be used for Toyota. No big deal, it's common practice for a lot of accessories to be manufactured by third parties and then rebranded as OEM or OEM performance parts. It's just a matter of buying from the dealer gives you the peace of mind that you have someone to go back to in case anything goes wrong. In my experience Toyota will stand behind the products and look after you, whereas some private shops forget that you even exist after you get the install done, let alone look after you should something go wrong with a part or install that you've paid for. In any case, I think I've said it in another thread but I highly recommend the Toyota lowering springs, they really help to make the car sit properly from both a esthetic and a performance point of view. At the same time it's nothing too aggressive and won't make you cringe anytime you go over a pothole or railway tracks or speed bumps, or etc.

[echo_hrs]

My dealer installed springs came with Eibach Pro-Kit documentation in that plain corrugated box...

[jah]

Here is the Toyota Yaris Lowering Springs only in the states for $155 US:
http://www.toyotapartsstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=191_192&products_id=4639&osCsid=7161ea26d87290c2250bd21982a9a36c

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

[Idjiit]

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

My dealer indicated that they won't be available "until Summer" - my sales guy will be giving me a call when they come in.

[bigsky2]

Here is the Toyota Yaris Lowering Springs only in the states for $155 US:
http://www.toyotapartsstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=191_192&products_id=4639&osCsid=7161ea26d87290c2250bd21982a9a36c

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

Can I ask you you mean by "Toyota Yaris Lowering Springs only in the states for.. " ?

Do you mean this is only for the Yaris in US?

OT - Has anyone purchased from toyotapartstore.com ?
At US $155 for lowering springs, that's actually a good deal if you can find a private mechanic to install them. :thumbsup:

[jah]

I do not know if the hatch sold in Canada is identical to the hatch sold in the US. Additonally I am unclear if the springs in the link are the same as the TRD springs. I did order the hatch spoiler from them, will let you know when it arrives. The part number is ptr04-52060, maybe somebody else is familar with Toyota part numbers and can tell if its a TRD part, and if it will fit your car.
Later
Jerry

[Idjiit]

Here is the Toyota Yaris Lowering Springs only in the states for $155 US:
http://www.toyotapartsstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=191_192&products_id=4639&osCsid=7161ea26d87290c2250bd21982a9a36c

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

Unfortunately these guys don't have a valid SSL certificate, so I won't be buying from them. Bummer, I was just about to buy the lowering springs.

[jah]

Good catch, looks like they did not cough up the dough to get a cert from Verisign or Thwart. Hopefully its not a spoofed site, and they just harvasted my CC info :evil:

[C2AUTOSPL]

TRD springs = Eibach springs

[SmellyTofu]

TRD springs = Eibach springs

Wrong.. TRD <> Eibach springs.

[ricko]

I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.

[why?]

rofl, most brand names you see don't make the product's you;d think of when you hear their name.

Singer subcontracts all their sowing machines out, they actually make computer chips now, lol.

[SmellyTofu]

I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.

Correct. However, you'll find it might be co-incidence to know that the TRD springs have the same spring rate as Eibach but each company test them to suit their satisfactory level.

[ricko]

Makes sense, since each offers a warranty.

[jah]

Unfortunately these guys don't have a valid SSL certificate, so I won't be buying from them. Bummer, I was just about to buy the lowering springs.

The red spoiler I ordered showed up today:thumbsup:

[Idjiit]

The red spoiler I ordered showed up today:thumbsup:

Glad to hear it. Unfortunately I've been the victim of fraud twice, so I'm understandly protective of my info.

[jah]

I got hit once, so should have picked up on the cert thing :redface:

Found
http://www.toyotaworld.com/
They list the TRD Shocks, and springs, looks like springs are 159, the shocks 304. Big difference from Honda, the HFP (honda factory performance) suspension was only sold initally in the HFP package (List at $4k :eek: though it included the front, side, rear skirts, spoiler, 17" alloy wheels, and the shocks/struts/coils that were "nuernberg" tuned :wub: )

[bigsky2]

This thread's question has probably already received confirmation already, but I just wanted to add that the springs are indeed Eibach springs.

The documentation with the springs were Eibach printed, and it came with a cheesy sticker too (RICE ON!).

[why?]

This thread's question has probably already received confirmation already, but I just wanted to add that the springs are indeed Eibach springs.

The documentation with the springs were Eibach printed, and it came with a cheesy sticker too (RICE ON!).

ROFL.:bellyroll:

[jah]

it came with a cheesy sticker too (RICE ON!).
Is it one of those "5 HP" stickers, ya know the kind that add horsepower :rolleyes:

[bigsky2]

Is it one of those "5 HP" stickers, ya know the kind that add horsepower :rolleyes:

Actually to be exact, there's TWO stickers.

So it could potentially increase your total power output to 10 HP.

Dual Sticker Setup.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

TRD SPRINGS will cost you $160.00 american plus shipping

[JDMVitz]

I found on the internet the part no. for hatchback lowering spring. It doesn't say if is TRD or not...

Part #: PTR04-52060

Is this the TRD lowering springs? If not, where can i find it?

[Moura]

Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago.

I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach.

So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs.

Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€).

One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm :iono:

[YarisSedan]

Just so you know no dealer toyota honda etc manufacture thier own parts. They sublet it to a company and they make it and then they stick thier label on it. For example honda usses a lot of nissin parts. And it says honda on the box. But occasionally on the part you can see the stamp nissan. Infact if they havve problems with brake pads they will switch to a different brand. So you could buy 2 boxes of brake pads for the same car but a few years later it would be a different type cause they found out this other brand has less combacks.

I had a customer in my shop once that didnt belive me they wanted only OEM parts. So i orderd a master cylinder from napa auto parts and a master cylinder from worldpack which is a oem cylinder that says honda all over th ebox. ANd took them both out. Identical in every way and both said nissin on them. Just one napa put thier name on and one honda put thiers on. So i told the customer if you want you can have this one because it comes with a pretty box but its 30 percent more expensive. I warrenty both parts for 1 year reguardless

[Jerkratt]

Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago.

I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach.

So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs.

Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€).

One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm :iono:

the reason they are diffrent numbers is cause eibach makes there own lowering spring for the yaris... they ALSO make springs spec'd to TRD's wantings... thats the reason for a different drop.. the TRD spings are sopost to work with the TRD shocks (i think there KYB's) same concept with socks... Racing Heart makes the "TRD 18in. Wheels" there just badged TRD.. AEM makes the CAI for TRD... but the TRD comes with a bypass valve.... i think eibach makes the rear sway bar as well.. making any cents?

and to clearify something... honda does NOT have mugen... its a company that makes Honda parts but you cant go into a honda dealer and ask for mugen parts... nismo on the other hand IS a nissan company like TRD. there for you can go to a nissan dealer and order nismo parts.

[MUSKOKA800]

My TRD springs came for the US.
Eibach advertise a 1" drop.
TRD advertise a 1.25" drop.
Mine have settled in at approx. a 1.5" drop.

Eibach may make TRD springs but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the same spec. And likely aren't.
For what it's worth, the photo on Toyota Canada's 2008 Yaris option/accessory webpage clearly showed springs marked "Eibach". Of course the price was totally outrageous.

[Cutie Pie #2]

I went to Sparkstoyota.com to look at Full TRD Suspension which includes everything shocks, springs and rear sway bar = price is $787.00 which includes shipping. Is that a good price? Or has anyone know of better. And does any one know a ballpark on price to get it installed. I looking to do this soon maybe christmas time. This is for my car to improve the ride. My husband's is staying stock.

[Jerkratt]

I went to Sparkstoyota.com to look at Full TRD Suspension which includes everything shocks, springs and rear sway bar = price is $787.00 which includes shipping. Is that a good price? Or has anyone know of better. And does any one know a ballpark on price to get it installed. I looking to do this soon maybe christmas time. This is for my car to improve the ride. My husband's is staying stock.

if u come to jersey ill be able to install the sway bar and ill be able to get a nice price for the install of the shocks and springs.... my car club pres owns a body shop they got tools there lol.. worse case there is a shop that sponcers us called autoformace in clifton... my friend got the NST pulley installed on his accord yesterday for 50 bucks... so im sure i can get u a sweet deal and it would be done quick..

and

MUSKOKA800 agreed just as i stated above ur post

[Benggolf2]

Go Eibach Pro-Kit if you are not after aggressive lowering. Am pretty happy with the results on the Yaris, MBenz and Smart....yes, they all have Eibach Pro-Kits installed. Ordered the springs from Tire Rack.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2770/img1064jx3.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9984/img0951mu7.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8030/patio82405024mp6.jpg

[MUSKOKA800]

I went to Sparkstoyota.com to look at Full TRD Suspension which includes everything shocks, springs and rear sway bar = price is $787.00 which includes shipping. Is that a good price? Or has anyone know of better. And does any one know a ballpark on price to get it installed. I looking to do this soon maybe christmas time. This is for my car to improve the ride. My husband's is staying stock.


Sparks prices are very competitive.
I bought mine from Conicelli. It was a bit cheaper after adding the 15% discount code.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&catalogid=3408&siteid=840&categoryID=98625&subcat1=101269&subcat2=101278

Oh, and "improve the ride" is subject to interpretation. The full TRD system will make your ride quite brisk. I consider it an improved ride because I can now rail the turns. Others don't care for the bone jarring hits. You'll know every crack in the road along your commute before long. For me, avoiding those bumps is part of the fun.

[Jerkratt]

Sparks prices are very competitive.
I bought mine from Conicelli. It was a bit cheaper after adding the 15% discount code.

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=AccessoryCatalog&catalogid=3408&siteid=840&categoryID=98625&subcat1=101269&subcat2=101278

Oh, and "improve the ride" is subject to interpretation. The full TRD system will make your ride quite brisk. I consider it an improved ride because I can now rail the turns. Others don't care for the bone jarring hits. You'll know every crack in the road along your commute before long. For me, avoiding those bumps is part of the fun.

adreed again with the bump lol but i had 17" rims on aswell... i got 15" now with more tire not as bad

[kargoboy]

I have Eibach springs on my own dd (Mazda Protege) and love them. I am going to install a set on the Yaris too,
in the spring. PM me for a price, if you're interested.

[marcus]

make sure you cut the bump stop... my car is in toyota right now and theyre replacing the shock , originally they said its the springs "trd" but when they took it out they said its the shocks.. its blown.. the car is 18 months old and i dont drive hard on any bumps...

[thebarber]

i have some still-new springs from toyota canada....theyre very clearly eibach prokits

[Moura]

All good news then. The Eibach springs will be much cheaper for me :w00t:

Benggolf2, thanks for the pictures, that gives an idea of how it will look like. Are your wheels 15"?

marcus, what do you mean by cuting the bump stop? :iono:

[Benggolf2]

All good news then. The Eibach springs will be much cheaper for me :w00t:

Benggolf2, thanks for the pictures, that gives an idea of how it will look like. Are your wheels 15"?


Hi Moura, they are 17" x 7" +40 offset with 205/40 x 17 tires. I am sure you will be happy with the Eibachs.

I do not not have any rubbing issues and handling & cornering is much improved, yet the ride is still very compliant (smooth and comfortable).

[Moura]

Hi Moura, they are 17" x 7" +40 offset with 205/40 x 17 tires. I am sure you will be happy with the Eibachs.

I do not not have any rubbing issues and handling & cornering is much improved, yet the ride is still very compliant (smooth and comfortable).

Ahh ok! They looked to me like 15" because you have sport tires, and I didnt realise that.
My wheels are 15" but the tires are 185/60, so it will look more or less the same.

My engine is only 1.0, so Im not changing the wheels size or it wont move :laugh:

Something I notice now is that the Yaris Shocks or springs are very stiff.. for example, in the speed bumps it´s very very hard, even when going slowly :iono: Im hoping it will get better with the Eibach springs.

Cheers