osama bin laden ** DEAD **

[mazilla]

Just confirmed, United States Special Forces have KILLED osama bin laden


http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/bin-laden-dead-u-s-official-says/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256963
http://www.ace-clipart.com/clipart/american_flag_photos/flag-l.jpg

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy108/tea_party_patriot/dont-tread-on-me.png

[fnkngrv]

curious to know if this is indeed the truth or if there are hidden circumstances or timelines, etc.

[JumpmanYaris]

curious to know if this is indeed the truth or if there are hidden circumstances or timelines, etc.

+1

[SilverBack]

Suspecting it's another govt lie. I'd have to see a body to be only a little convinced at this point. Video footage of his murder would help more.

[silver_echo]

hell yes... finally got his ass...

[rningonfumes]

I'm sure they had to take some time to prove it was Bin Laden via DNA tests and what not.

[mazilla]

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/media/blogs/blog/9/osama_bin_laden_dead0001_66.jpg

[SilverBack]

Now a little convinced.

Will follow the news story in the coming weeks to be sure.

[bzinn 1]

This is wonderful news......after having watched 9/11 live on tv,mostly by accident,had to get up early that day for work and seeing on the news plane had crashed into twin tower,figured it was a small plane....then to watch live the second plane.......well...that changed my life and was horrifying to see......

Good job Navy Seals....looks like he took two to the face......

Maybe now we can start to get some of our service men and women back to their homes and back to families.....if you have military personal in your town be sure to thank them for their sacrifice......they deserve it.

[frownonfun]

ok just to be clear, i'm not disputing the reports that he's been killed but i'm pretty sure that picture is fake. just sayin.

[mazilla]

ok just to be clear, i'm not disputing the reports that he's been killed but i'm pretty sure that picture is fake. just sayin.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure the pics fake too...it popped up really quick and was supposed to have been "leaked by somebody on the team". Looks fake

[bronsin]

bin Ladin dead.

$10 trillion spent doing it.

I bet as the bullets ripped into his body his last thoughts were "I WON!"

[nemelek]

It took a long time.

[Kongo-Otto]

I believe it is him and i believe they killed him. But i don't think anything will change. It's naive to think international terrorism is beaten. Its just a matter of time and there will be revenge. And revenge for the revenge. And revenge for the revenge for the revenge ...

[bronsin]

I believe it is him and i believe they killed him. But i don't think anything will change. It's naive to think international terrorism is beaten. Its just a matter of time and there will be revenge. And revenge for the revenge. And revenge for the revenge for the revenge ...


The story of history Im afraid.

[rick996]

I believe it is him and i believe they killed him. But i don't think anything will change. It's naive to think international terrorism is beaten. Its just a matter of time and there will be revenge. And revenge for the revenge. And revenge for the revenge for the revenge ...

+1

[DebbyM46227]

I'm not sure if I believe it. And now there's no way to prove it since they dumped the supposed body in the ocean.

[frownonfun]

I believe it is him and i believe they killed him. But i don't think anything will change. It's naive to think international terrorism is beaten. Its just a matter of time and there will be revenge. And revenge for the revenge. And revenge for the revenge for the revenge ...


If you are referring to the picture above yes it is him, photoshopped...

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7636/seriouslyh.jpg

This is an image that has been floating around for some time. I vote that we just take it down as I think we can all agree no one benefits from misinformation.

[Kongo-Otto]

If you are referring to the picture above yes it is him, photoshopped...

No i meant i believe it is him who got shot during this operation.

[Shinare]

I know I'm going to come off pretentious, or over zealous, or overly religious in what might be a crowd skewed the other direction but I find this news rather difficult to process. I know as a Christian, Jesus taught us to forgive our enemies and pray for them. In fact, we must pray for anyone who looses their life for God's divine mercy and acceptance into heaven. When it comes to the hitlers and the binnladens of the world I find it VERY difficult not to be happy they are gone and HOPE they are rotting in hell.

I also find it really hard to swallow that as an American, I am part of the murder of a man. Yes a really really bad man who had a hand in the murder of literally thousands of innocent people, but a man none-the-less that too has been murdered by us. Justify it all you want, we're saving future lives, he needs to atone for his sins, we crippled their organization (which we didn't), etc. Why not tranq the dude and pump him for info? Why we kept the body is beyond me as well. If we were just going to toss it into the ocean, why not give his body back to his family so that they may do the proper customs? I mean, aren't we trying to prove that we are better than him and his murderous "evil" ways?

Anyway, I hate to say it, but I'm glad he is gone, but I'm a little ashamed to say it, and struggling to forgive. heh

[frownonfun]

No i meant i believe it is him who got shot during this operation.

I gotcha. And I agree.

Although I do believe he's been far too much a part of all our lives for so long that the US government can't possibly expect us all to take them on their word alone. This is especially true for those who lost someone on 9/11 or in the subsequent wars. I can only assume they plan to release some solid proof.

[PETERPOOP]

The news said that the photos circulating online are fake; but they were photos that were taken. Just gotta wait.

ps: Those navy seals are bada$$.

[Hershey]

Oil is trading higher since the news of his killing , because of possible ( speculation ) retaliation .

[bronsin]

What does it mean that so many people do not accept Bin Ladins death. :iono: Clearly he is history...:headbang:

[rick996]

What does it mean that so many people do not accept Bin Ladins death. :iono: Clearly he is history...:headbang:

The government lies some of the time. When someone lies to you even once can you ever trust that what they are saying is the truth ever again?

In this case, I believe he is dead. It would be too easy for him to pop up in a video and make the government look like fools (again).

[STC]

It is pretty simple... I am an American, I refuse to follow the jingoistic fervor and blind nationalism that we are seeing from yet another death of Bin Laden...

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24587

Cheers! :smile:

[TRDMarty]

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/media/blogs/blog/9/osama_bin_laden_dead0001_66.jpg

MSN this morning confirmed this pic is PHOTOSHOPPED & they showed the
actual photo that was used.
Show us the body 1st & I don't care about graphic images, I wanna see them!!

[mazilla]

MSN this morning confirmed this pic is PHOTOSHOPPED & they showed the
actual photo that was used.
Show us the body 1st & I don't care about graphic images, I wanna see them!!



You'll probably find them over one of the other forums I frequent as soon as they come out...these guys are usually on the ball.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=427825

[frownonfun]

It is pretty simple... I am an American, I refuse to follow the jingoistic fervor and blind nationalism that we are seeing from yet another death of Bin Laden...

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24587

Cheers! :smile:

when someone makes a claim that something is true, the burden of proof is on them. if people are going to continue to claim that he died prior to this incident due to kidney disease or complications with his diabetes then people making such claims have to produce that evidence. and it needs to be pretty insurmountable. it's not on everyone else to debunk it but instead suspend belief until there is reason enough not to.

so too is it the responsibility of the current administration to back up it's claims that they have indeed killed osama.

[frownonfun]

well one Squid (if not more) is walking with big balls hanging out... could you imagine being the Operator that popped BLaden like a zit? the guy is king sh%^#. that said i'd like to see the burial at see video that is suppose to come out soon and a paypal account for the SF Operative who got him so I can buy him a beer ;o)

i don't think they actually like being called squids. lol. but i agree, i'd like to buy them all a round also.

[rick996]

Rumor: Steve Jobs responsible for locating Osama Bin Laden :wink::

We owe Steve Jobs a big apology (http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/owe-steve-jobs-big-apology/)

[rick996]

I heard it was Donald Trump who was responsible for locating Osama and pulling the trigger! :laugh::bellyroll:

I'm sure "The Donald" thinks so. :bellyroll:

[SailDesign]

I think Martin Luther King Jr. had it right.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"

[frownonfun]

eh. i'm pretty big on pacifism myself but i think we get a pass on this one from a moral standpoint. but i certainly don't begrudge you saildesign for having that outlook.

[Red Horse]

R.I.P. Osama’ graffiti appears on Orange County costa mesa freeway


While much of the rest of the country was celebrating Osama bin Laden’s demise, a memorial to the slain terrorist went up on a sound wall along the 405 Freeway in Westminster, authorities said Monday.

A Caltrans maintenance worker was at the Orange County site near Springdale Street by 9:30 a.m. removing the graffiti, which was first reported in the Orange County Register and featured an upside-down American flag flanked by the script “R.I.P. Osama” and “Forever,” authorities said.

California Highway Patrol Officer Denise Quesada said her agency would investigate who wrote the graffiti if further information surfaced. Caltrans will power-wash the words and image and paint over any remnants.

[BluYrs]

So this whole war on terror has been about the safety and security of the people of the US, right? Any victory therein should logically bring about a more safer and more secure living environment for you, right? Less need to put police officers out on the streets, less need to restrict air travel, less need to feel threatened?

Putting aside the ethic and moral aspects of what happened, I wonder if any of you people over in the US actually feel safer now. Since terrorist no 1 is dead and it's celebrated widely, do you really feel a lot safer when you go, say, travelling abroad?

[big lo]

One less terrorist in the world, I wish death on no man, but he had it coming, I lost a few member from my family in the 911 attach (Twin Towers) and in Irak, like the old sayin goes “What comes around goes around“ thank God after ten years they finally got him.

[mazilla]

So this whole war on terror has been about the safety and security of the people of the US, right? Any victory therein should logically bring about a more safer and more secure living environment for you, right? Less need to put police officers out on the streets, less need to restrict air travel, less need to feel threatened?
Not many Americans agree with the increased security measures. To quote Benjamin Franklin - "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."


Putting aside the ethic and moral aspects of what happened, I wonder if any of you people over in the US actually feel safer now. Since terrorist no 1 is dead and it's celebrated widely, do you really feel a lot safer when you go, say, travelling abroad?

I've never felt safer in my life, at home or abroad, because I stay alert and pay attention to what's going on around me. Don't be fooled by the political fear mongering being used to pass an agenda, it in no way reflects the sentiment of the average American.

The real question is how the terrorists feel, knowing that we're willing to lay waste to their entire civilization for a single act of transgression. Knowing we will demolish country after country just to settle the score. Hate our foreign policy? Hate it bad enough to invite it into your homeland and have it water board your entire family because you did something stupid? Of course, they'll have to survive the predator drones first....

[bronsin]

Im hearing the knowledge about the courier that was tracked to Bin Laden was obtained by waterboarding the prisoneers at Guantonamo.

Truth? Or myth?

[HYang]

Let me be the first on this forum to call shenanigans!!

This entire news production resembles an act straight out of "Wag the Dog":

Dustin Hoffman (brainstorming, talking aloud): Why can't the US gov't produce the body of Bin Laden? Dammit think!

RObert DeNiro: The body has been lost at sea.

Hoffman: What?

Deniro: There's no body because it's been lost at sea.

Hoffman: You expect the public to believe that US Special Ops LOST the body of Osama bin Laden, World's Most Wanted Man ten years running? Get out of town! They won't bite!

DeNiro: Oh They'll bite. If we tell them it was done on purpose- In strict accordance with muslim burial tradition- oh they'll bite. THey'll bite alright.

Hoffman (smacks his forehead): Of Course! Muslim burial tradition! So as to extend an olive branch to the radical muslim world! THat's brilliant! But Is there really such a tradtion?

DeNiro (shrugs): We'll find something close enough.


ONCE AGAIN:
SHENANIGANS!!!

[frownonfun]

Let me be the first on this forum to call shenanigans!!

This entire news production resembles an act straight out of "Wag the Dog":

Dustin Hoffman (brainstorming, talking aloud): Why can't the US gov't produce the body of Bin Laden? Dammit think!

RObert DeNiro: The body has been lost at sea.

Hoffman: What?

Deniro: There's no body because it's been lost at sea.

Hoffman: You expect the public to believe that US Special Ops LOST the body of Osama bin Laden, World's Most Wanted Man ten years running? Get out of town! They won't bite!

DeNiro: Oh They'll bite. If we tell them it was done on purpose- In strict accordance with muslim burial tradition- oh they'll bite. THey'll bite alright.

Hoffman (smacks his forehead): Of Course! Muslim burial tradition! So as to extend an olive branch to the radical muslim world! THat's brilliant! But Is there really such a tradtion?

DeNiro (shrugs): We'll find something close enough.


ONCE AGAIN:
SHENANIGANS!!!


Just to humor your example for a moment, because I can't say I completely disagree, what would really be the harm of lying to the public in this case? It's one thing to lie so that they can screw us all over but quite another thing to say you killed the person we all wanted dead.

*shrugs* Seems to me, if they are lying, in this case I don't really see the harm. People get closure. Obama gets a boost for his campaign. The Republicans get to run on how they started this war on terror that ultimately lead to Osama's demise... everybody wins.

[HYang]

Just to humor your example for a moment, because I can't say I completely disagree, what would really be the harm of lying to the public in this case? It's one thing to lie so that they can screw us all over but quite another thing to say you killed the person we all wanted dead.

*shrugs* Seems to me, if they are lying, in this case I don't really see the harm. People get closure. Obama gets a boost for his campaign. The Republicans get to run on how they started this war on terror that ultimately lead to Osama's demise... everybody wins.

Well thank you for humoring me.

No harm done of course, lying to the public. (0.0% sarcasm intended)
That's just Realpolitik as it should be and nuts to anyone who is juvenile enough to pout about it.

But it's more interesting to speculate on the intentions of the-powers-that-be; ie. Does the declaration of Bin Laden's death= their intent to finally draw a close to The War On Terror? Or is this meant to goad the Jihadists into perpetrating another 9/11, giving the US justification to wage an all-out war in the Mid-East?

Only time will tell of course.

[HYang]

Well thank you for humoring me.

No harm done of course, lying to the public. (0.0% sarcasm intended)
That's just Realpolitik as it should be and nuts to anyone who is juvenile enough to pout about it.

But it's more interesting to speculate on the intentions of the-powers-that-be; ie. Does the declaration of Bin Laden's death= their intent to finally draw a close to The War On Terror? Or is this meant to goad the Jihadists into perpetrating another 9/11, giving the US justification to wage an all-out war in the Mid-East?

Only time will tell of course.

I guess I find it irritating/ insulting/ darkly funny that the US gov't can so casually issue propoganda that plainly stinks to high heaven, with no fear of losing any kind of legitimacy.
THe rest of the world must think we're sheep feeding voraciously on our own tripe.

[RedRide]

So this whole war on terror has been about the safety and security of the people of the US, right? Any victory therein should logically bring about a more safer and more secure living environment for you, right? Less need to put police officers out on the streets, less need to restrict air travel, less need to feel threatened?

Putting aside the ethic and moral aspects of what happened, I wonder if any of you people over in the US actually feel safer now. Since terrorist no 1 is dead and it's celebrated widely, do you really feel a lot safer when you go, say, travelling abroad?

He was the world's number 1 terrorist and caused the death of thousands of Americans, so, what is is America supposed to do? Say that's OK, "I don't worry about him" like Bush did?
He was a criminal and criminals must be brought to justice. There is no statute of limitations on murder!

It has little to do with feeling safer. It's just one more low life no longer on the planet.

[hachi-roku_fan]

I know I'm going to come off pretentious, or over zealous, or overly religious in what might be a crowd skewed the other direction but I find this news rather difficult to process. I know as a Christian, Jesus taught us to forgive our enemies and pray for them. In fact, we must pray for anyone who looses their life for God's divine mercy and acceptance into heaven. When it comes to the hitlers and the binnladens of the world I find it VERY difficult not to be happy they are gone and HOPE they are rotting in hell.

I also find it really hard to swallow that as an American, I am part of the murder of a man. Yes a really really bad man who had a hand in the murder of literally thousands of innocent people, but a man none-the-less that too has been murdered by us. Justify it all you want, we're saving future lives, he needs to atone for his sins, we crippled their organization (which we didn't), etc. Why not tranq the dude and pump him for info? Why we kept the body is beyond me as well. If we were just going to toss it into the ocean, why not give his body back to his family so that they may do the proper customs? I mean, aren't we trying to prove that we are better than him and his murderous "evil" ways?

Anyway, I hate to say it, but I'm glad he is gone, but I'm a little ashamed to say it, and struggling to forgive. heh

This I can respect. I've been arguing with what I call "radical Christians" about this, I feel like I'm talking to a wall, at least you show some tolerance and understanding for other cultures and religions.

Pakistan is going to have fun dealing with their shit country without our funding and troops, at least I hope that we would pull out after this discovery. The lack of obvious effort they put in, in finding him is a slap in our faces.

[frownonfun]

So it's been reported a photo should be released soon. Guess we'll see.

[BluYrs]

So it's been reported a photo should be released soon. Guess we'll see.

It just takes longer to do the PS work properly :rolleyes:

[STC]

I think Martin Luther King Jr. had it right.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"

Amen!

Here at Penn State University kids rioted all night when the news came out. It was a big party. See what 10 years of indoctrination can do to you! The kids where in elementary school when his name was brought up for being the mastermind. They have no understanding of geo-economics and the politics. I'm appalled and ashamed with how people act... even adults friends of mine.

[rick996]

The credit should also go to Jessica Dovey as the 1st sentence was hers.

How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote (http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0503/How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote)

[STC]

The credit should also go to Jessica Dovey as the 1st sentence was hers.

How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote (http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0503/How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote)

OUCH!!!!

I'm going to crawl under my rock again! In this day of Internet sensation and info sharing... I guess all is FAKE! :laugh: :wink: :biggrin:

I'm so confused...:iono:

But, this quote is TRUE...
"Knowledge is the systematic elimination of information." -- UNKNOWN

Time to go to my rock! :wink:

Cheers all! :smile:

[SailDesign]

The credit should also go to Jessica Dovey as the 1st sentence was hers.

How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote (http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0503/How-Osama-bin-Laden-s-death-sparked-a-fake-Martin-Luther-King-quote)

Thanks! I found out about that yesterday lunchtime, but no-one had figured out who wrote the first sentence yet.
Either way, it fit my mood perfectly, regardless of first use. :smile:

[rick996]

OUCH!!!!

I'm going to crawl under my rock again! In this day of Internet sensation and info sharing... I guess all is FAKE! :laugh: :wink: :biggrin:

I'm so confused...:iono:

But, this quote is TRUE...
"Knowledge is the systematic elimination of information." -- UNKNOWN

Time to go to my rock! :wink:

Cheers all! :smile:

:eek: No need for rock-crawling-under (:laugh: :wink: :biggrin: understood). It was just a matter of giving Ms. Dovey credit. :clap: The sentences flowed together nicely and it's something that MLK would have said. :rolleyes:

I like that the quote about knowledge is author UNKNOWN. :bellyroll:

[frownonfun]

Thanks! I found out about that yesterday lunchtime, but no-one had figured out who wrote the first sentence yet.
Either way, it fit my mood perfectly, regardless of first use. :smile:

Yeah even if you take out her line it still has the same sentiment really. No worries.


To add to this though I have to say there are some instances where retribution is just the nature of things. I'd love to believe that the world would be a better place if we all just lived by the idea to forgive and forget but it's just not true. Surely no one can expect us to just let Osama off completely after his involvement in mass killings.

One of my favorite quotes is by Nietzsche and is as follows “Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful.” Which I agree with and try to live by. But I think this is just one of those cases where an infatuation with punishment can be excused.

[frownonfun]

So it's been reported a photo should be released soon. Guess we'll see.


or not...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/04/973038/-Obama-tells-60-Minutes-no-release-of-binLadenphotos?detail=hide

[JumpmanYaris]

No photos to be released

[STC]

:eek: No need for rock-crawling-under (:laugh: :wink: :biggrin: understood). It was just a matter of giving Ms. Dovey credit. :clap: The sentences flowed together nicely and it's something that MLK would have said. :rolleyes:

I like that the quote about knowledge is author UNKNOWN. :bellyroll:

HeHe!

I really do live under a rock... and I'm the UNKNOWN... :tongue:

Cheers! :smile:

[STC]

No photos to be released

I don't understand? :iono:

They showed Saddam being hanged on prime time TV, they showed the Abu Ghraib torture photos over and over, and they killed over a million people in Iraq and Afghanistan. But not putting the footage of Osama Bin Laden out... because of national security reasons and not who we are? So they say? Yeah right! This is the biggest hypocricy of all... something is wrong? And if you look at the FBI site... no mention of Bin Laden's dealings with 9-11. Huh? I'm very saddened of what has happened and now is happening. I need closure... physical proof.

I can't look at it this way as many Americans look at it: "I've never killed a man, but I've read many an obituary with a great deal of satisfaction." -- Mark Twain. Just saying IMHO!

Cheers!

[frownonfun]

I don't understand? :iono:

I need closure... physical proof.

Cheers!


Thank You! I have been in so many arguments since they said they aren't going to release a photo about this. And no I'm not sick or morbid. It's not out of some perverse love of gore that I think the photo should be released. It just should. That's just the bottom line.

The most wanted man since Hitler and we can't release a photo? Seriously. Because of the backlash?! Are you kidding me? I can just imagine some member of al-Qaeda hearing the news of Osama's killing and just shrugging it off but then seeing that we released the photo and only then does he say enough is enough. lol. If we are worried about putting our military at undue risk then here's a damn good idea... pull them out of all these damn countries we have them occupy.

What a joke. And then I'm called crazy and a conspiracy theorist and a teabagger because I think the administration should actually have to back up such a massive claim with actual photographic evidence. Actually had someone tell me they'd question it if it were from Bush but they don't think Obama would lie. LOL. Wow. I thought I was pretty naive and gullible. I voted for him but holy crap I'm not so stupid as to think that he would never lie.

As far as I'm concerned if you don't have any trust issues with the US government then just maybe you aren't paying attention. But whatever.

[SailDesign]

frownonfun, the problem these days is that you can P'shop anything you want. Publish a pic, and half of the world will think it's a Pshop - don't publish and the other half of the world won't believe he's dead - lose/lose....

[frownonfun]

it's crossed my mind. that'd be the best possible scenario from an intelligence standpoint. but that's purely speculation which is what you get when the organization making a particular claim can't or won't produce proof. but oh well, life goes on. it's like i've said it's really no harm to anyone if they are fudging the facts a little. most of our lives remain unchanged by this event either way.

[HYang]

frownonfun, the problem these days is that you can P'shop anything you want. Publish a pic, and half of the world will think it's a Pshop - don't publish and the other half of the world won't believe he's dead - lose/lose....

frownonfun, the problem these days is that you can P'shop anything you want. Publish a pic, and half of the world will think it's a Pshop - don't publish and the other half of the world won't believe he's dead - lose/lose....

I agree- Obama's decision is the right one....in the best interest of his administration.

HOWEVER:
It is also quite reasonable for people to continue to think it more than a little strange that KEY EVIDENCE (ie. Osama Bin Laden's body) was dumped within 10-hours after the firefight, BEFORE DNA tests were completed, and WITHOUT allowing a single credible, disinterested outside party (perahaps a forensics expert or two from a foreign government?) to examine it so as to confirm the kill as authentic or at the very least to collect biometric data (ie. DNA) for analysis at a later time.

I'm no follower of conspiracy theories.
But it does irritate me that people are so bloody eager ('bloody' is the key word) as to eat up this latest production of 'news', replete with weapons & technology fetishizing, without taking anything at all with a grain of salt, and furthermore dismissing those that raise any doubts/questions as being on-level with Birthers and Tea Partyers.

Is Bin Laden really dead? Alive? Free? Under interrogation?
It is agreed that these types of questions are as productive as a serious discussion on who would really win: Batman or Superman?

After much deliberation on Kryptonite and the full-spectrum capabilities of the Batmobile, it is hoped that most people would come to their senses and understand that in the end, both Batman and Superman are fictions produced by one entity- DC Comics- which doesn't care a whit what you or I believe to be true or false, just so long as we keep coming back for more, while continuing to utterly ignore our homework.

[sickpuppy1]

Hyang, from what I read, they did the visual confirmation first and he wasnt chucked over the railing till the DNA confirmation was done and proved valid.

[STC]

Hyang, from what I read, they did the visual confirmation first and he wasnt chucked off the boat till the DNA confirmation was done and proved valid.

They did DNA confirmation? I thought it takes at least several days? Maybe for this special case it was hours... :wink: This is moving too quickly for me to know what is real anymore? :wink:

Back to under my rock...

Cheers! :smile:

[frownonfun]

Yeah really it is hard to tell what's real anymore. And I agree with Hyang that it is a little irritating that people are so quick to gobble this up while trying to make anyone with doubts out to be on the same level as birthers.

I'm not convinced that he wasn't killed. But I'm also not completely sold that he was. I don't think there is a more reasonable position than that.

If the media is just reporting what the government tells them happened well then of course every news outlet is gonna be on the same page. But that doesn't make it true. One has to look no further than WMD's, Pat Tillman, and Jessica Lynch to see that our government does distribute propaganda at times. *gasp*

[john21031]

I don't believe there is even such figure as Bin Laden... It's called a scape goat (justification for Americans to sponsor the military-industrial complex).

[SailDesign]

I don't believe there is even such figure as Bin Laden... It's called a scape goat (justification for Americans to sponsor the military-industrial complex).

Not quite - it's justification for Congress to steal our taxes to sponsor the M-I complex. I don't sponsor it willingly myself....

[STC]

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