Toyota Yaris reliability

[bronsin]

My ECHO was a manual and the transmission shifted very smoothly. In fact when my legs and feet made shifting difficult I did a lot of shifting without the clutch whenever possible.

I sold the ECHO and bought a Yaris in order to get an automatic transmission because I figured if I kept shifting w/o the clutch I would ruin the transmission. But I often wonder if I had kept the ECHO would the trans have held up? I think the ECHO, for my purposes, was a better car other than the trans.

[Flipper_1938]

I liked my Echo better. The Yaris isn't bad, but the Echo was better (both manual transmission cars).

[DMZ]

My ECHO was a manual and the transmission shifted very smoothly. In fact when my legs and feet made shifting difficult I did a lot of shifting without the clutch whenever possible.

I sold the ECHO and bought a Yaris in order to get an automatic transmission because I figured if I kept shifting w/o the clutch I would ruin the transmission. But I often wonder if I had kept the ECHO would the trans have held up? I think the ECHO, for my purposes, was a better car other than the trans.

I once had a Chevy truck that I shifted w/o the clutch for years. Once I got a feel for the shift points, it was as smooth as an automatic. The tranny outlasted the engine.

[mkaresh]

I once had a Chevy truck that I shifted w/o the clutch for years. Once I got a feel for the shift points, it was as smooth as an automatic. The tranny outlasted the engine.

The key thing is shifting at the correct RPM. If you do, then no harm done. You'll know, as it's smooth when done right.

[07liftback]

The key thing is shifting at the correct RPM. If you do, then no harm done. You'll know, as it's smooth when done right.

Yea, the Yaris was the only car I had to get used to because of it's drive-by-wire feature. A delay in the acceleration response is never fun on a manual car. Then again, the Yaris always felt more zippy and torquey compared to the civic I had some years ago.

As far as reliability goes, I'm at 85k miles and have only done oil changes and oil filter changes on the car since getting it. I've changed the cabin filter a few times and vacuumed the air filter.
Don't mean to thread jack but are there other maintenance items other people reccommend?

[Gaudy]

94,000 km , no repairs yet, only scheduled maintenance...change oil, spark plugs ect.

[Sir A.Y. Atoyot]

I've had the car now for going on 5 years - nearly 70,000 km - still no problems, and I mean "NO" problems - not even a burnt out light bulb. Knock on wood :smile:

[bronsin]

Don't mean to thread jack but are there other maintenance items other people reccommend?


Clean the leaves and crap out of the windshield wipers shafts where they go into the body and that area or they will rot and rust the car over a long period of time. Also open the trunk and clean the rotting stuff around the rubber sealing strip.

Open the hood once a month when you check the oil and look for pink coolaand splashes on the right bottom that indicated a leaking water pump.

I take the car to the car wash four times are year for interior and experior cleaning and consider that maintenance now that Im too old to do it myself. You dont want a car like my wifes Camry with is filthy and has a trunk full of crap!

[jose3sgte]

When I swapped my cluster to a Canadian with tach it had 177,556 miles, the new one had 56,000 kms on it and today I swapped it for a 2010 S cluster it had 192,000 kms, so 192,000kms - 56,000kms =136,000 kms = 84506 miles + 177,556 miles = 262062 miles on my PR Spec 2006 Hatchback. Nobody believes me but my car has the same brake pads from new, the only things that I have changed are:

1. Motor Oil & Filter (obviously)
2. Tranny Oil (manual)
3. Serpentine Belt
4. Air filter
5. Cabin Filter
6. Tires
7. Rear driver wheel bearing
8. Spark Plugs (2 times)

Also maintenance is by the book so just Imagine how many times I've changed the oil and tires

I would like to know if the ECU keeps the mileage data so I can have proof:biggrin:

[nookandcrannycar]

When I swapped my cluster to a Canadian with tach it had 177,556 miles, the new one had 56,000 kms on it and today I swapped it for a 2010 S cluster it had 192,000 kms, so 192,000kms - 56,000kms =136,000 kms = 84506 miles + 177,556 miles = 262062 miles on my PR Spec 2006 Hatchback. Nobody believes me but my car has the same brake pads from new, the only things that I have changed are:

1. Motor Oil & Filter (obviously)
2. Tranny Oil (manual)
3. Serpentine Belt
4. Air filter
5. Cabin Filter
6. Tires
7. Rear driver wheel bearing
8. Spark Plugs (2 times)

Also maintenance is by the book so just Imagine how many times I've changed the oil and tires

I would like to know if the ECU keeps the mileage data so I can have proof:biggrin:

I believe you. Member trini_per4mance didn't have to do any work on his brakes until he hit 400,000 miles. Mine = 20% worn (front and rear) at around 207,000 - 208,000 miles.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through June 30, 2013. (Another source is about 14 months behind.)

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 10, low
2009 Yaris: 21, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 33, low
2007 Yaris: 21, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 69, < 1
2007 Yaris: 80, < 1

We'll have further updates in November and February.

To view competitors' scores and descriptions of reported repairs, and to sign up to help:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[yarisgeo13]

I bought mine 2013 last week. But I did do a lot of home work about this model. Of what I read and seen and the reliability about this car is really good. Plus having my color isn't bad either! Saw a few custom things I like to do to mine. But for now, I'll leave it stock.

[mkaresh]

With all cars, even Toyotas, the simpler the car is the better its reliability scores tend to be.

[junorico24]

Unbelievable!!

This car has so far done 12 hour trip and back, 5hour trip and back and today i took it to Dubbo 5 hours to and back with no dramas. I was thinking if this car breaks down here in the middle of no where with no signs of civilization or gas station. It just kept chugging a long. Impressive 7 years old and tough as nails.

http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s457/Ridko29/20130929_153717.jpg


Nothing is wrong with it except MY Brother reversed into it:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

[nookandcrannycar]

The 'rotating wheel' on the Yahoo! homepage lists 'Top Cars Under 25K' as one of the panes to choose. Under that headline, the next line reads: Priced at just $16,020, one Japanese compact is the second highest rated by Consumer Reports. Top 10 picks (the 'Top 10 picks' is highlighted)

I wanted to see the results...so I clicked on the 'Top 10 picks' link.

The first line on the linked article is: '10 most reliable cars under $25,000'

I KNOW the Yaris is one of the 10 most reliable cars under $25,000', so I scrolled down to see the cars. No Yaris! So...I read the article. IMO, the key line is: 'To create a list of truly good cars, we also made sure the final roster only included those models that meet the criteria for a Consumer Reports recommendation, including performing well in our road tests and in safety tests conducted by the government and/or insurance institute'........:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::r olleyes::rolleyes:.....hubris much?

The title of the article should have been amended by adding 'from Consumer Reports pre-approved list'.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:.

The $16,020 Japanese compact at #2 is the Fit. The only car that beat the Fit is the Scion xB.......see URL below. (For some reason it doesn't show up as a link. I tried to put it in the body of the post and this made the rest of the post disappear)

autos.yahoo.com/news/10-most-reliable-cars-under-25-000-193000372.html

[yougojay]

I copied & pasted the link, works fine -

Wow, Yahoo! :thumbdown: & Consumer Reports :thumbdown:

Consider the source (s)

Yahoo is complete trash & I wouldn't take Consumer Reports advise rating toothpicks, even if my life depended on it !!!:laugh:

Real world experiences are the best way to determine if a particular product is right for you.

'The title of the article should have been amended by adding 'from Consumer Reports pre-approved list'..... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Indeed :rolleyes: What a crock of :bs:

[nookandcrannycar]

Real world experiences are the best way to determine if a particular product is right for you.

:thumbsup: Yep.....and the OWNER comments on Yahoo Autos, MSN Autos, Edmunds, etc......NOT the 'conclusions' from 'journalists' and 'CR testers'......tell the story.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through September 30, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 5, low
2009 Yaris: 34, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 31, low
2007 Yaris: 29, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 71, 3
2007 Yaris: 75, < 1

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[JustPassinThru]

Had two - 2009 and 2012.

The 2009 needed front-end alignment in the first 5000 miles - but beyond that, the only work it needed was after I hit a deer (25 mph; no airbag deploy). Got 75,000 miles on it and figured it had been abused enough that it was time to sell.

The 2012 so far has 16,000 miles on it...OLF service is the only work it's seen.

I'm sold on Toyotas - even if the newer Korean or, in the future, Chinese cars are cheaper, better-styled, even, superficially, better-designed. Deep within Toyota, they understand the value of obtaining and keeping a customer - with value delivered.

[mkaresh]

Unless you're skipping oil changes, 75k miles is early. These should remain reliable well past that point.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through December 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 0, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 48, moderate, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 32, low
2007 Yaris: 26, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 69, 3
2007 Yaris: 80, < 1

We'll have further updates in May and in August. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see the repairs behind these stats, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[mkaresh]

Our reliability stats for the Yaris now include owner experiences through March 31, 2014, making them nearly a year ahead of other sources.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 0, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 48, moderate, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 29, low
2007 Yaris: 29, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 73, 3
2007 Yaris: 73, < 1

Thank you, once again, everyone who has been helping. Next update in August.

For a deeper dive, including the stats for other cars and repair descriptions, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through June 30, 2014 (making them about 14 months ahead of some others).

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 0, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 50, moderate, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 23, low
2007 Yaris: 38, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 79, < 1
2007 Yaris: 70, < 1

Next updates in November and in February. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

For repair descriptions, the stats of other cars, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[lenzomaru]

42,XXX no problems only routine maintenance so far

[lenzomaru]

129,000 miles. Not a single problem. Still functions as if it was new. Never seen anything like it and I worked at a dealership where I drove thousands of used cars. None had held up like the "cheap" Yaris.

My original brake pads are still 50%.
I'm on the original spark plugs - plan on changing them soon.

wow, haven't changed spark plugs after 129,000 miles?!?! manual says that is supposed to be changed after 40,000km

[mkaresh]

New stuff this time. We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through the end of 2014.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 0, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 39, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 26, low
2007 Yaris: 42, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 74, < 1
2007 Yaris: 70, < 1

We'll have further updates in May and in August. Additional participants especially needed for the 2009 and up.

For the details, including how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[nookandcrannycar]

wow, haven't changed spark plugs after 129,000 miles?!?! manual says that is supposed to be changed after 40,000km

Perhaps it is the spark plugs that the USDM 2nd Gens came with, but our change interval is 100,000 miles. Kal-El is well past that, but I've only done one spark plug change on my '07 Yaris over the course of 300,000+ miles....and that was at over 207,000 miles :eek:.

[bronsin]

Sparkplug change interval on my ST1300 motorcycle is 8000 miles. I let them go 50,000 without ill effect. Saw an ST13 with 75,000 miles on them at a tech meet and it ran like a watch.

Not changing mine until the mpg drops or the engine doesnt run right.

[mkaresh]

We'll have updated stats again later this month.

Just a quick note now that additional participants would be very helpful, especially for 2009 and up. I'd like our information for the Yaris to be as comprehensive as that for the Honda Fit. Currently we have 311 owners signed up for the Yaris, vs. 756 for the Fit.

www.truedelta.com/join

[mkaresh]

So, how have these cars been doing lately?

Our reliability stats for the Yaris now include owner experiences through March 31, 2015. (Others are nearly a year behind.)

In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year ("low" is best):

2010 Yaris: 6, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 23, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 27, low
2007 Yaris: 45, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 77, < 1
2007 Yaris: 72, < 1

No stat for a model year? Then we very much need more participants for it. Same for those with small sample size notes. Next updates in August and November.

For repair descriptions, the stats for other cars, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[fnkngrv]

Heya Mike. I can tell you even with the stupid amount of modding I have done with mine the only item that seems to reoccur is the wheel bearings. I attribute that to the high speeds rather than a design flaw. Other than that I have read more instances of clutch assembly items on the C150 transmission being a PITA for many owners. That has generated a lot of discussion especially in regards to saying that it must have to do with driving style. Personally I think it has to do with Toyota's implementation of their DBW system being a PITA and it being in an adolescent design at the time of the 07-10 years. I haven't heard much of anything on the 11 to current years.

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[mkaresh]

Our reliability stats for the Yaris now cover the year ending June 30, 2015. (Others are over a year behind, and so report how these cars were doing when a year younger.)

Repair trips per 100 cars:

2010 Yaris: 11, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 22, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 25, low
2007 Yaris: 47, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 74, < 1

If a model year isn't listed, or its sample size is small, then we especially need more owners involved.

For the descriptions of all reported repairs, results for other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[09GLH]

2009 5 door hatch, no major issues other than recalls. 191,000 miles. Only mod are the fog lights. I average around 38mpg.

[Meechity]

2010 Yaris Sedan AT, just joined the survey. :)
Nearly 220,000 miles (commuter) and I finally have to replace the exhaust due to salt wear — I live in PA, so that's par. Otherwise this car runs great. I hope to be rolling up the interstate in 6 more years to hit half a mil. :)

[CB900F2]

2008 Sedan AT.. 155,000km.. Only repair has been water pump other then maintenance..

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through September 30, 2015.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2010 Yaris: 17, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 34, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 33, low
2007 Yaris: 51, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 67, < 1

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

For the details, including repair descriptions, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[BIGTAZ351]

I have a 10 3 door, first and only repair in 91K a $50 blower motor.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through the end of 2015, about eight months ahead of other sources.

In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year--lower is better:

2010 Yaris: 16, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 28, low, small sample size
2008 Yaris: 26, low
2007 Yaris: 26, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 74, < 1
2007 Yaris: 75, < 1

No stat, or a small sample size? Then we especially need more owners involved for that model year.

For the repairs behind these stats, reliability information on other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through June 30, 2016. Reliability information elsewhere is based on a survey conducted in April 2015--well over a year ago.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year (lower is better):

2010 Yaris: 22, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 34, low, very small sample size
2008 Yaris: 33, low
2007 Yaris: 21, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 78, < 1
2007 Yaris: 87, < 1

We'll have further updates in November and next February. The more owners participate, the more model years we can cover and the more precise these stats will be.

For the repairs behind these stats, reliability information on other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[07liftback]

07 Yaris hatchback, no issues other than rear hatch struts getting "lazy" and the battery replacement after 8 years. Oh and the extremely musty smell in the vents regardless of changing out the cabin air filter. Heard you're supposed to spray bleach into the vents or into the vent tube thing. Also, the vents seem to let outside air into the cabin too easily.

[snowsquirrel]

hi mkaresh,
I drive a 2008 5dr HB, bought it in Aug 2016 @ 205,000 KM, rear shocks started leaking, so replaced them with OEM parts at 206,000 KM. Also replaced the LCA bolts.

Not aware of any other issues, except the original FB battery may be on it's last leg, radio starts to reset on morning starts.

[fj40dave]

198K on my '08.....replaced the usual stuff (tires, front/rear strut/shocks, brakes, bulbs, wipers, belt, and battery when I killed the orrig).
Amsoil and regular gas....commuter....AMAZING car!!

[RichardPan]

I drive a 2007 Sedan base model. 133,000 km so far. Bought it when it's just a bit over 4 years old. I'm in Ottawa, Ontario, where it does get cold and roads are salted. Experienced the ABS sensor error. Cost $1000+ to fix, not covered by warranty. Other than that, just the brakes, front pipe gasket, etc. The usual.

Original battery was replaced at 6.5 years, at the suggestion of Canadians. OEM tires had cracks (dry rot) when I bought them, so replaced it. Other than a flat, never been stranded by this car.

Oh, no noticeable engine oil consumption. Currently running 5w20, as filled by dealership, for past 2 OCI. Other times, 5w30 at Canadian Tire.

[zoidberg444]

2006 Hatchback. 5 door. 1KR engine, 5MT, 122,000 miles. I've had the car since 2011 and its been in my family since 2007.

Had a minor issue with noise from a rear door lock fixed under warranty. Also had the drivers electric window switch reprogrammed by the dealer around the same time because it acted weird sometimes. No issues with either systems since. I had the water pump fail in 2013 at around 75,000 miles (i think) was really bad for weeks. Original battery died not long after. Didn't cause me any great inconvenience. Alternator voltage regulator started acting up at around 88,000 miles. Had the alternator replaced. Other than that its been servicing. A few bulbs. An exhaust. The exhaust was actually the biggest bill I've had.

In August it took me 7000 miles to the Nordkapp and back.

I think i might replace one of the CV boots next year. I also think my clutch has seen better days. Oil burning currently stands at around 500ml every 1000 miles. I might do something about it when its more than a litre every 1000. Also think its running a little lean. I'm happy to keep it running.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the Yaris to include owner experiences through September 30, 2016. In terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year (lower is better):

2010 Yaris: 27, low, small sample size
2009 Yaris: 27, low, very small sample size
2008 Yaris: 25, low
2007 Yaris: 20, low

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2008 Yaris: 73, < 1
2007 Yaris: 85, < 1

Additional participants always helpful, especially for years without stats or with small sample sizes.

For the repairs behind these stats, reliability information on other models, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Toyota Yaris reliability ratings and comparisons (http://www.truedelta.com/Toyota-Yaris/reliability-469)

[David C]

Hi Michael,

Just registered my Canadian 2007 2dr HB on your website.

Did a fair amount of browsing in the reliability section and I still find the results confusing, especially regarding the ratio of "trip per 100 car" and how many cars are in the sample. For instance, most models actually have only 26~29 car sample size, yet they would get a first class rating of between 20 and 30 trips per 100 cars. Does it mean that only 30% of the 30 sample cars have had repair trips or that 30 of them have had one and since you don't have 100 cars sample yet, you don't extrapolate ?

Also, why aren't there any Yaris from 2010 to 2017 ? I can't believe you haven't received a single registration from a Yaris of these model year ?

And when you display the "best to worst" repair per 100 car ratio gauge, you should indicate what was the least number of trip for the involved year and what was the most. Because when you look at the cars that have the worst rating, you'd think they'd fall apart as soon as you stare at them, while in fact they may have only 5 more trips than the first few best ones.

Based on 10 years of data collection, I wouldn't feel confident yet using TrueDelta to guide me in any way into choosing a used car. Of course there are a few models that do happen to have enough data to them to help making a decision (in particular the 2004 Chevy Malibu, which according to your data, would be the worst model year to buy, or the Pontiac Vibe/Matrix that would be a very good choice).

Looking out my window, I can see 5 Yaris HB second gen in my street, which is one of the most common car here in Montreal. I could head out and ask my fellow Yaris owner neighbour to go on your site and you'd probably get 4 out of the 5 that would gladly fill in the data. However if you don't do any large promoting of your website to everyday car drivers, they'll never know about it. Just printing out flyers and spending a few hours a day distributing them downtown on parked cars would be inexpensive and very effective, less costly than any media advertising and would reach a lot more potential users (especially if you target the model years that you're lacking the most data about).

Because honestly, signing up and filling in was beyond easy and quick, so I don't think that's what stopping you from getting data.

Kudos on the archive for equipment and specs of the vehicles, I've been searching ever since I bough mine january last year for a list of equipment and standard/optional features the 2007 2dr HB was available with. Even the dealer couldn't have anything older than 5 years back. However I assume that it's only showing what was offered in the USA ? As I definitively know that AC was a standard feature on the 2007 Yaris here (it is listed as standard on your site), and some Canadian equipment wasn't listed either (like the PTC heater on the cabin air radiator, available only with the winter package). I do understand that compiling and gathering precise and complete manufacturer data for over 10 years of all makes and models is a lot of man hours and can be confusing depending on the region and country differences in offering, so I give you (and your team ?) a lot of credit for taking the time and money to accomplish this.

[David C]

:thumbsup: Very interesting that the drive by wire effects automatics noticably as well.

Sometimes that gas pedal feels like I'm in a rocket ship with no power modulation, sometimes it's like my tires are filled with concrete. I never tried a Yaris with manual transmission, but my guess would be that I'd stall like a noob more than a Subaru with a grabby clutch.

One benefit of the electronic throttle is acceleration take-over on cruise control in the highway. You don't have to floor the pedal to actually make the car go faster because the pedal "home" position will already be close to the speed you're cruising at. In short, on long drives when you set the CC on and take off your shoes, you only need a push of the toes to go from 120km/h to 140km/h for the passing.