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pwisenbaker
05-02-2011, 11:41 PM
FYI:
I contacted Weapon R regarding the potential of them producing an intake manifold for the Yaris based on the vesrsion for the Scion. They said not at this time BUT maybe in the near future. Sounded to me like they are working on one and are hesitant to make it known. I think the Yaris community needs to contact Weapon R and petition them for one. If they receive positive feed back they may put one in production.
cali yaris
05-03-2011, 01:17 AM
It's been tried by more than one of us, and they were supposedly doing this over 2 years ago. I'm a shop and was willing to stock the darn things.
They could start by showing dyno results for their xB manifold and publishing authentic results.
You could just buy the xB one and change the throttle flange.
Toy Box Racing Store
05-03-2011, 06:27 AM
This is something we've even considered doing. I can buy the intake it self for a good price from Chris @ Weapon-r, however we would cut the flange off and put on the correct one for the Yaris. I'm just not sure if it's cost productive to do so. Making the flange is not a big deal. I would need to do at least 10 on the CNC than reweld and fabricate that particular area for fitment and clearance issues. I'm all for giving you what you want, but unless I get 5 prepaid orders I won't touch it. Would need to know people are serious.
TBR
Bluevitz-rs
05-03-2011, 10:38 AM
Cali, what ever became of the one you were working on?
thebarber
05-03-2011, 10:57 AM
if the intake manifold showed positive results on the dyno, it would certainly be appealing.
pwisenbaker
05-03-2011, 10:42 PM
This is something we've even considered doing. I can buy the intake it self for a good price from Chris @ Weapon-r, however we would cut the flange off and put on the correct one for the Yaris. I'm just not sure if it's cost productive to do so. Making the flange is not a big deal. I would need to do at least 10 on the CNC than reweld and fabricate that particular area for fitment and clearance issues. I'm all for giving you what you want, but unless I get 5 prepaid orders I won't touch it. Would need to know people are serious.
TBR
It would be nice to get a "no frills" piece, no polish etc. to help out on the cost of manufacturing. If they were more affordable then I would think these or a version thereof would fly off the shelf.
Scubaru Steve
05-04-2011, 12:29 AM
a turbo intake manifold would be nice. shorter runners, smooth flow. lots of vacuum ports!
theres a few boosted guys here that have nice ones!
Tylermayer
05-04-2011, 01:16 AM
we need to get as many people as we can to contact them so they will finally put it in production
we start a poll to show how many people has contacted them
cali yaris
05-04-2011, 10:52 AM
unless I get 5 prepaid orders I won't touch it. Would need to know people are serious.
We tried that too.
I have drawings, but production costs put it at a very high price per piece. I couldn't get 5 people to pony up, maybe that has changed.
cali,
if you were to get those 5 people, what would the cost each be? not sure that I could join in but more a curiosity. also, what kind of gains are you expecting from this?
thanks
cali yaris
05-04-2011, 12:26 PM
I just wish someone would buy the Weapon R one, modify it, and dyno the car. Then we'd all know.
cali yaris
05-04-2011, 12:27 PM
a turbo intake manifold would be nice. shorter runners, smooth flow. lots of vacuum ports!
This would lose you a lot of torque, as mine did. But I wanted power in the top end, and short runners serve that purpose well.
For an N/A car, longer runners are preferable.
cali yaris
05-04-2011, 12:35 PM
Alright, just for fun and education, I've sent off my drawings to the company that makes our springs. Let's see what they say. I didn't have them when we first attempted this project, so cross your fingers.
Vanquisher
05-04-2011, 07:40 PM
I just wish someone would buy the Weapon R one, modify it, and dyno the car. Then we'd all know.
Modify weapon-r works perfectly with 1zz-fe throttle for my sedan(non turbocharge).
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn136/vs_vanquisher/2nd%20Facelift/200264_174700279244804_100001144996277_375108_5495 657_n.jpg
thebarber
05-05-2011, 02:36 AM
Modify weapon-r works perfectly with 1zz-fe throttle for my sedan(non turbocharge).
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn136/vs_vanquisher/2nd%20Facelift/200264_174700279244804_100001144996277_375108_5495 657_n.jpg
notice any gains or losses in power with the weapon r manifold?
Vanquisher
05-05-2011, 05:14 AM
Butt feeling - yes,i feel power gain. Much better low-mid respond for my setup and i will never install stock manifold again.
IMO,it's a good investment esp for turbo ride.
Mine is asia spec so need to CnC spacer for tat manifold in order to install.
Thirty-Nine
05-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Interesting. I'll be paying attention to this thread.
cali yaris
05-05-2011, 11:41 AM
Manufacturer has replied; they are keen on the project. That is good news.
marcus
05-05-2011, 12:02 PM
Oh mighty god......
mazilla
05-05-2011, 12:14 PM
Oh mighty god......
+1
The short list of parts I have planned for this car seems to keep growing and growing. :thumbup:
thebarber
05-05-2011, 12:35 PM
Manufacturer has replied; they are keen on the project. That is good news.
ill say!
Put me down for one if you ever get it produced Cali.
cali yaris
05-05-2011, 01:02 PM
Now I have to find my stock one to send over there. That will require some digging. :biggrin:
pwisenbaker
05-05-2011, 07:51 PM
If the Manufacturer can make them plain jane, no polish, no ground welds etc will help out on costs; I am in as well.
They could option them with the extras and NOS bungs for the folks that need & want them.
cali yaris
05-05-2011, 07:55 PM
Grinding welds is not allowed in my world.
xen555
05-05-2011, 10:17 PM
Now I have to find my stock one to send over there. That will require some digging. :biggrin:
i have one spare if you need it its yours the only problem im in PR
cali yaris
05-06-2011, 10:55 AM
^ I'll let you know today. I can send you a UPS label if you tell me what size package. Thank you very much.
mazilla
05-06-2011, 11:05 AM
^ I'll let you know today. I can send you a UPS label if you tell me what size package. Thank you very much.
There might be a couple laying around my office still, there was a pile of them there about a week ago. I won't be able to check until I come back up to Glendale on Tues if you can wait that long...
This is looking good. I was gonna get the weapon r and do the custom work but this will give me the time I need to replace/upgrade my clutch. Had to turn down the boost :(
stevethegimp
05-07-2011, 09:52 AM
I'd certainly be on the serious interest train if this builds steam. :headbang:
bladesmith6
05-07-2011, 11:40 AM
I know you guys are saying "I'm in" but keep in mind this probably will be at least 5-700 dollars(maybe more, garm correct me if I am totally off base) and that price is why half the people flaked out the last time something like this came up. Hell I used to argue about the price being too high but after doing alot more research unless its a honda this is the price you have to pay with a car like ours...another words don't make promises and then dissapear....
that is part of the reason that I have kind of stayed out of the whole "I'M IN!!!" category.
if it were more in the $300 range, I may consider it but there again without knowing for sure, I don't want to say definitely.
if it is something that will help low end torque, it is definitely a consideration.
I had no idea it could be upwards of $700. that would rule me out if it were.
stevethegimp
05-07-2011, 03:24 PM
I know you guys are saying "I'm in" but keep in mind this probably will be at least 5-700 dollars(maybe more, garm correct me if I am totally off base) and that price is why half the people flaked out the last time something like this came up. Hell I used to argue about the price being too high but after doing alot more research unless its a honda this is the price you have to pay with a car like ours...another words don't make promises and then dissapear....
Haha well i'm one of those few, slightly mental, Yaris drivers. Since i'm decently competitive in the local auto-x club i'm willing to plop down a bit of money. The big questions at least for me would be whether long runners would adversely effect running say....a zage turbo kit. I know short runners seem to be the approved route for forced induction but since the "Performance Yaris" subset is limited, data for pretty much all applications is limited too.
To quote Portal 2- "I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the walls here to see what sticks. No idea what it'll do." <--- I feel like that's how a lot of Yaris modifications go. I mean it's still a relatively young car in the US market.
thebarber
05-07-2011, 10:41 PM
im sure garm is aware that 84% of the people who'd post "id buy that" are flakers...
bzinn 1
05-08-2011, 04:11 PM
If it could be mad eint he $300 range,and for me even if it just looked good,no loss of power over the stock plastic piece.......I would buy one,I can polish my self....I am loking fo build a show car and looking under the hood is well....boring unless it is turbo and mine is a DD so I cannot safely turbo and rely on the car without dumping tons of cash.
But I sure would like to see someting on the front of the motor looking not so plastic....lol
cali yaris
05-08-2011, 09:35 PM
im sure garm is aware that 84% of the people who'd post "id buy that" are flakers...
Yep, learned that right here! :laugh:
Seriously though, $300 for that kind of part is going to be nearly impossible, if you want it to be any good. I'll know when the factory gets the stock part and compare to the drawings I gave them.
Bluevitz-rs
05-28-2011, 11:02 AM
Ok, back to the top.
Any news from the shop you sent your drawings too on pricing?
Where's the MI credit card?
If something like that could increase low end torque and power with dyno proven results, while not hurting the top end too much, it would be cool.
YarisPR
05-30-2011, 11:36 AM
We are using here in PR the IM from the 1zz corolla (2001) both for N/A and Turbo applications(Echo, Yaris).
N/A: Intake, 1zz tb, 1zz corolla 2001 IM (modified to bolt on like the oem one), NST pulleys, AMK header (ebay), catless 2" exhaust, Camcon (power enterprise) = 115whp :thumbsup:
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad63/aldatskiy/2001%20Corolla%20blue/IMG_0501.jpg
Bluevitz-rs
05-30-2011, 12:04 PM
^ do you have a picture of it on the car? What needed to be modified?
thebarber
05-30-2011, 12:24 PM
hard to compare dyno #'s without a baseline...i ran 106whp and 107wtq with just an intake and 2" exhaust...
YarisPR
05-30-2011, 10:15 PM
^ do you have a picture of it on the car? What needed to be modified?
What u need to modify is the flanges so it fits the 1nz (motor) and the 1zz TB (on the other side). here's in my friends turbo Yaris (250whp Turbo / 305whp turbo+NOS). On N/A without any tunning (a/f control) it doesn't do much)
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj238/angelo0011/1zzIM.jpg
cali yaris
05-31-2011, 02:26 PM
Ok, back to the top.
Any news from the shop you sent your drawings too on pricing?
first China supplier: $10,000 tooling and minimum 100 units order.
Still looking.
first China supplier: $10,000 tooling and minimum 100 units order.
Still looking.
eek, that has to be a crazy high initial cost.
bladesmith6
06-21-2011, 07:01 PM
Any updates from other suppliers ?
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