Shocks upgrade???

[CASTREX]

I wonder?? Besides the expensive TRD shocks, is there any other option to upgrade OEM shocks when you're riding lowering springs? Tanabe DF's in my case.

Thanks for the info!

[Galavoxx]

From what I've been told and seen, there isn't a thing. Later this year, there will be many options.

[Biggie™]

Cusco, Tein and HKS all make suspension for the Yaris!

[Galavoxx]

Cusco, Tein and HKS all make suspension for the Yaris!

Aren't those all coil-over sets. I think Catrex is just looking for absorbers.

[dngz]

Tein only makes the Tein Basics for the yaris. Cant adjust stiffness, only the height. So their EDFC wont work on our car.. But its still not too bad.. the coilovers are already pretty stiff.. if ur looking for stiffness that is..

[Galavoxx]

I'm not good with abbreviations...what is "EDFC"?

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I'm not good with abbreviations...what is "EDFC"?

Its the TEIN servos that you attach to the strut tops to adjust dampening on the fly with the dash mounted controller.

[Galavoxx]

Ahhhh yesss... those sweet little thingys. I believe eTimago has some on his car.

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Ahhhh yesss... those sweet little thingys. I believe eTimago has some on his car.

How is your car with the TRD struts? I think I'm gonna run those springtechs like you instead of the Tanabe DFs.

[dngz]

umm.. just thinking about this but... shouldnt this be in the wheels/tires/suspension forum?

[CASTREX]

Aren't those all coil-over sets. I think Catrex is just looking for absorbers.

Yes, I´m just thinking about the shock absorbers. I alredy have the tanabe DFs springs and don´t want to expend big bucks on coilover systems...


umm.. just thinking about this but... shouldnt this be in the wheels/tires/suspension forum?

... It probably should.

[Galavoxx]

How is your car with the TRD struts? I think I'm gonna run those springtechs like you instead of the Tanabe DFs.

I'm putting them on this weekend. I'll let you know how they feel.

[501]

i have the trd shocks and tanabae df210 and think the ride is good. i still wish we would have a little stiffer spring set up, but if you want a good daily driver set up with a sporty feel this is the way to go:thumbsup:

[forpinks]

oh... Im thinking about changing shocks/struts when i get my yaris next month, I dont know if it will be comfortable like my corollas suspension though.... have you had any ride sore or something? and is it a must to change the springs too?

[CASTREX]

oh... Im thinking about changing shocks/struts when i get my yaris next month, I dont know if it will be comfortable like my corollas suspension though.... have you had any ride sore or something? and is it a must to change the springs too?


What do want to do with your car? There are a few diferent options in the market. Do you want a lower ride? a stiffer ride? I see no point in replacing the shocks and leaving the stock springs.

In my opinion you should start with the springs and then upgrade the shocks. Just by replacing the springs (even with OEM shocks) you will greatly improve the handling of your Yar.

[Galavoxx]

Just by replacing the springs (even with OEM shocks) you will greatly improve the handling of your Yar.

This may be true but the tendancy of the suspension to "bottom-out" in bigger bumps is greatly increased. You can buy the complete TRD lowring kit from this guy for $330 plus shipping. This includes springs. You should definitley do both upgrades at the same time unless you want to do double the work installing or paying to have installed, springs and then absorbers. Of course this is IMHO. You can probably get Ken at TRD Sparks to match the price...

http://www.trdsource.com/toyota.asp

[St_G]

$330 is just for the shocks at that site, if I'm reading it right.

[Galavoxx]

$330 is just for the shocks at that site, if I'm reading it right.

My apologies. I swear they were advertising the combo for $330 just last week. :iono:

Either way, I still stand by my statement. When considering just the lowering springs, think about those weak little stockie shocks. The dampening just isn't agressive enough to handle the decreased suspension travel. There should be some other stand alone absorbers on the market soon. Hopefully the prices will come down.

[Nimble]

I have a question about the compoisition of the stock vs TRD shocks.

Are our stock shocks/struts gas or oil filled? I'm guessing either oil or twin tube gas at best. Are the TRD's at least twin tube gas, hopefully montube gas?

[Galavoxx]

Both stock and TRD are gas/oil filled. The TRDs have nitrogen gas, probably at a higher pressure with a heavier weight oil. They are likely rebranded Gas-a-Just. Both the TRD and the OEM are made by KYB. Here is a blurb I just found:

These KYB Gas-a-Just shocks use higher gas pressure to keep your tires glued to the road. The KYB Gas-a-Just shocks' velocity-sensitive valving system adjusts quickly to changing road conditions for maximum comfort in any situation. Their monotube configuration eliminates aeration and foaming, their micro-smooth, hard-chromed pistons extend their life, and their seamless cylinders and eyerings completely eliminate seam failures.

[Nimble]

Both stock and TRD are gas/oil filled. The TRDs have nitrogen gas, probably at a higher pressure with a heavier weight oil. They are likely rebranded Gas-a-Just. Both the TRD and the OEM are made by KYB. Here is a blurb I just found:

These KYB Gas-a-Just shocks use higher gas pressure to keep your tires glued to the road. The KYB Gas-a-Just shocks' velocity-sensitive valving system adjusts quickly to changing road conditions for maximum comfort in any situation. Their monotube configuration eliminates aeration and foaming, their micro-smooth, hard-chromed pistons extend their life, and their seamless cylinders and eyerings completely eliminate seam failures.

Exactly the info I wanted to see. You are a big help, thanks. That helps me feel better about just lowering my car with stock shocks/struts with the Tanabe DF's I have on order. I know they will ruin my stock stuff within 30K tops, but that's ok for me now. Once they go, hopefully some GOOD shocks like Koni/Bilstein are available, not crap like KYB or TRD.

[Galavoxx]

I wanted Konis or Blistein but couldn't wait. After I lowered the car, it was apparent I needed some stiffer shocks. The TRDs work well but could be just a hair more aggressive to suite my taste. Either way, they are a huge improvement over stock. Adjustable dampening would be ideal.

[CASTREX]

Both stock and TRD are gas/oil filled. The TRDs have nitrogen gas, probably at a higher pressure with a heavier weight oil. They are likely rebranded Gas-a-Just. Both the TRD and the OEM are made by KYB. Here is a blurb I just found:

These KYB Gas-a-Just shocks use higher gas pressure to keep your tires glued to the road. The KYB Gas-a-Just shocks' velocity-sensitive valving system adjusts quickly to changing road conditions for maximum comfort in any situation. Their monotube configuration eliminates aeration and foaming, their micro-smooth, hard-chromed pistons extend their life, and their seamless cylinders and eyerings completely eliminate seam failures.


So we can get an upgrade to the OEM shocks without paying the extra $$$ for the TRD logo. That's what I wanted to know!

Now, anoyone has any info on what would be the KYB equivalent to the TRD option?

Any one with TRD shocks that can provide the specs, p/n etc... to help find the KYB match.

Also, about KYB. It might not be the best shock performance wise, but I can tell you those are some long lasting and good quality shocks.

[Nimble]

So we can get an upgrade to the OEM shocks without paying the extra $$$ for the TRD logo. That's what I wanted to know!

Now, anoyone has any info on what would be the KYB equivalent to the TRD option?

Any one with TRD shocks that can provide the specs, p/n etc... to help find the KYB match.

Also, about KYB. It might not be the best shock performance wise, but I can tell you those are some long lasting and good quality shocks.

In the TRD shock's defense, you can get them for only $310 bucks, which is insanely cheap for a quality set of shocks/struts in my book (keeping in mind my book comes from $600 sets of Bilstein sports for BMW M3's).

[CASTREX]

I know $300 is cheap for a set of shocks. But I wonder how much the equivalents would be? $200???