Hi, everyone!! Long time, no chat! 2007 Liftback Help Appreciated

[TRD_Yaris]

I haven't been on the site since "the hack" :thumbdown:

I've got a bunch of random maintenance / issues with my Yaris, so I thought I'd come here and ask the experts (yes, I did some searching before posting :laugh: ).

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Keep in mind, it's an EARLY 2007 Yaris Liftback.

1)My SRS (Airbag) warning light has been on for a few hundred miles. I was reading that this is a common issue, but I didn't find a common solution besides taking it into the dealership under warranty. Any ideas?

2)I bought a set of ebay fog lights: is there a SAFE way to wire the foglights to come on with the headlights (or with the parking lights for that matter). This would seem to save me from having to install the OEM style switch..but I don't want to cut corners. I can't imagine not turning on the headlights without the foglights..but maybe I'm missing something.

3)Is anyone currently parting out a Yaris Liftback? I'm looking for a plastic piece that broke on mine after running over a small, furry, woodland creature :burnrubber::evil: It's a Liftback Drivers Side Front Bumper Retainer 52536-52050 OEM Toyota RETAINER, FR BUMPER
I'd rather buy it used from the community if I can.


4) I'm really impressed by Bryan, PeterPoop, and JumpmanYaris's HID retrofit (the painted housings are gorgeous!). I noticed that MicroImage is selling an "updated kit", so even if i did the same kit it might end up looking different (or not fitting the same, possibly). So, I'm considering going with something different all together. Do you guys have a recommendation? An H4 compatible "drop in" retrofit would be a plus, though I'm keeping my eyes out for Q45 'gatling gun" projectors :wink:. It was easy enough to do to a Lexus GS300, and the housing are very similiar.

I've still got a bunch of little things to fix, so I'll probably add a few more questions over the course of the next few days. I appreciate any help you can provide.

5)Another salvage part search - The metal clips that secure the socket for the daytime running light bulbs (5W5 wedge bulbs) - I don't know how I lost both :iono: but I noticed they were missing today. One of the lights doesn't stay on, and I'm assuming it's due to missing the clip. I've considered just using some good silicone epoxy and putting a bead on it to keep it in place, but again I'd rather not cut corners.

[Lil Abner]

To answer you're #4, here's a recent picture of mine. It's the Mini D2S projectors with Gatling Gun shrouds from TheRetrofitSource.com. I can get a better picture if needed.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=528&pictureid=4503

[CTScott]

For the SRS issue, check out this post for info on how to see what the stored DTC is:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=557473&posted=1#post557473

For the fogs, you can connect one of the coil wires for the aftermarket fog relay to a 12V feed and the other to pin 13 on the headlight stalk connector. Pin 13 goes to ground when the light switch is turned to parking lights or headlights.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ctscott329/Misc%20Yaris/D4-Wires.jpg

[cali yaris]

Welcome back!

I noticed that MicroImage is selling an "updated kit"

Fits the same. :thumbsup:

[TRD_Yaris]

Thanks for the help, guys!! I'll run that diagnostic for the SRS problem.
Cali, I've still got a few questions about the differences between the different H4 Bixenon swaps, but I really want to take the dive soon. I want to confirm that the projectors themselves are the same between the eBay cheap kits, the morimotos, your Microimage ones, FX-Rs, etc. I understand that there is HUGE differences in quality when it comes to the ballasts and bulbs, and that will be the deciding factor. But, I still want to know my options when it comes to shrouds, angel eyes, and whatnot (for example, will Morimoto shrouds fit on the MicroImage projectors).


BTW, I just noticed I posted this up in the Photo-Video-Media Gallary :redface: I'm a bit rusty :rolleyes:

[Lil Abner]

From my understanding, the projectors are all different sizes. The FX-R's I'd say would be the top of the list, but would require modifying your reflector bowl to get them mounted. The Morimoto's and the MicroImage ones have a threaded neck that goes into the H4 bulb hole (with a little filling). I can't comment on light output of the MicroImage ones, but I love my Morimoto D2S's. They have a nice large projector and lense, with great output.

[TRD_Yaris]

Good stuff! Researching on HIDPlanet is definitely helping, but you guys know the Yaris headlight housings best. I've already got Lexus GS430 Phillips OEM Ballasts and OEM bulbs (I think they're D2R)..but with my luck they won't work (D2S..or ballasts are too big..gotta be something lol). I'd be happy to buy the MicroImage (and probably will), but I just want to know my options and the differences.





Oil & gear oil change, clean/recharge K&N air filter, fix bumper, polish/seal/wax, spark plugs, air cabin filter, fog lights, Bixenon swap, brake shoes, SRS light, WD-40 hood latch release, reattaching roof trim, undercoating fenderwells and rear floor....:eek: busy busy busy

[cali yaris]

Lil Abner has it right, ours should be pretty much plug 'n play after you open up your headlights. The Gen3 I sell includes a seven-color rear facing LED ring with a controller.

This is especially cool on the Yaris, it really lights up the whole housing.

[TRD_Yaris]

Lil Abner has it right, ours should be pretty much plug 'n play after you open up your headlights. The Gen3 I sell includes a seven-color rear facing LED ring with a controller.

This is especially cool on the Yaris, it really lights up the whole housing.

Is the shroud chrome like the previous generation? I really like the "dark chrome" effect produced by the black housing. If not, are the shrouds interchangeable between the newer and older generations?

[Lil Abner]

I'm pretty sure the MicroImage projectors are an all-in-one unit. In that, the shroud is a part of the projector. You could see what the outer diameter is, and maybe a different shroud might be able to fit around it. I've seen guys paint their projectors (minus the lense) a different color. So you could do that, and add a coat of "dark chrome" to it. For output pictures, I think there are some shots on the forum somewhere. (edit: erased cut-off comment)

The MicroImages ones come with the ballasts and bulbs (I'm pretty sure), so the stuff you have wouldn't work. If you did the other projectors, you'd need to get D2S bulbs, not your D2R bulbs. HIDPlanet is a great resource. Look some more, I think they had some comparisons between the projectors.

[TRD_Yaris]

Thanks again for everyone's help :w00t:

I just changed my spark plugs (OEM replacements at Autozone: NGK Iridium IX) and disconnected/reconnected the battery. But, when I started the Yaris up it is idling WAY LOW (~415 rpm compared to ~600-800 before changing plugs) and shaking. Is this normal? Do I just need to drive it for a few days for the computer to "relearn"?

Too much to do...I feel like the freakin' rabbit off of Alice in Wonderland. Tea time, bishez!

[1NZYaris1]

Yes the computer justs needs to relearn:thumbsup:

[TRD_Yaris]

Yes the computer justs needs to relearn:thumbsup:

Man, you're quick :clap:

[Revsson]

Man, you're quick :clap:

And he's from down under! :tongue:

[TRD_Yaris]

Most of the maintenance went smoothly, thanks to the help of everyone here.

Though, I'm still struggling a bit with the eBay "OEM style" foglights. I've read through MicroImage Install and Wiring Diagram .pdfs, as well as the Toyota Tech .pdf for foglight installation, as well as 2 or 3 DIY articles online AND a few other sources, but I'm still not completely convinced that I know what I'm doing. I was going to post up some pictures of MY specific "OEM style" fog lights wiring harness, but it turns out that someone else has already posted about it here --> http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36158&highlight=foglight

1) Like Skeck, I'm wondering why I only have one power wire going into the fuse box, when most every other kit has an instruction manual that shows 2 wires. Am I supposed to put a "Y" in the cable or just plug into a single side (if so, which side)?

2)What size/type of terminal connectors do I need?

3) Skeck was discussing a Toyota brand Relay that he purchased to replace the relay that came with the kit. Do I need to buy a new relay, or will the one in my kit do the job?

4)As you can see in Skeck's picture, the harness has a black wire and a red wire near the relay, and a blue wire at the other end (on the other side of on/off switch).
I want to be able to turn the foglights on at anytime, even with the ignition off. So I'm pretty sure I'm using pin 3 and pin 7 of Connector D4 (headlight stalk connector).
So, where do the wires go to :)

Red: -= Pin 7 =-
Black: -= Pin 3 =-
Blue:


Thanks again for everyone's help!! I spent a few hours polishing the headlights, and I'm excited to see my little car all lit up ;)

[CTScott]

1. At the fuse box there are two pins for the left and right fogs. They are common, so you can connect to either or both. Connecting to both ensures that you don't exceed the current limit of one pin/wire.

2. The terminals are par number 82998-12340. I have some on hand if you need them.

3. Using the OEM relay is easier, as the wiring between the fuse box, relay and stalk connector are already there. If you use the relay with the kit, then you will have to wire the setup per the kit's instructions.

4. Pin 7 of D4 is not used. It would be pin 3 and chassis ground to be able to turn them on at any time (even with the headlights off).

[TRD_Yaris]

I didn't get any instructions with the kit, sadly.

I went ahead and ordered this Relay off eBay.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180771078124?item=180771078124&viewitem=&vxp=mtr

I appreciate the offer on the connectors. I might have to take you up on your offer and buy a few. I'm checking with the guy I bought the Relay from to see if he's got any that are salvaged.

[CTScott]

I didn't get any instructions with the kit, sadly. Depending on how much the Toyota relay will cost me (and if I'll have to wait to get some of the pin connectors), I might just go that route. Though, I would like to get this wired up :rolleyes:

btw, is this the correct Relay? http://www.ebay.com/itm/180771078124?item=180771078124&viewitem=&vxp=mtr
I hope I haven't inadverdantly broken a rule by posting an eBay link, but I figure this is an appropriate time.

That is the correct relay. 90080-87026 or 90987-02027 are the part numbers normally associated with the Yaris for the fog light relay.

[TRD_Yaris]

While I wait patiently for the final parts to complete this project, please help me confirm the wiring. And btw, the reason I thought I was supposed to use pin 7 is because of the Micro Image Aftermarket Foglight Switch Diagram:

"6. Connect the modified aftermarket switch. You can choose to have the fogs only come on
with the low beams (OEM method).
a. For the fogs to only turn on with the low beams connect the outside red wire to pin 3
and the green wire next to it to pin 4 of Connector D4, which is the headlight stalk
connector
b. For the fogs to turn on with the parking lights, low beams or high beams connect the
outside red wire to pin 3 and the green wire next to it to pin 13 of Connector D4,
which is the headlight stalk connector
c. For the fogs to turn on anytime, even with the ignition off connect the outside red
wire to pin 3 and the green wire next to it to pin 7 of Connector D4, which is the
headlight stalk connector"

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43533&stc=1&d=1314677103

Blue - Ground (for on/off switch)
------
Red- into D4 Pin 3
Black- Ground (foglights will work anytime, key in ignition or not)


I might end up cutting this harness up. I plan on putting the switch near the light stalk, so I won't need the length supplied to get to the OEM location near the e-brake lever. Plus, if I understand correctly, I don't need this cheap relay, anyway. (???)

BTW, I presume this uses the an OEM 15A fuse. Besides checking to confirm that I've got one according to the .pdf diagrams, does this mean I don't have to worry about installing an additional fuse? Someone on another thread was claiming that they had fried their relay and was worried that their eBay kit didn't have a fuse (I'm pretty certain he wasn't going through the Toyota OEM relay)

Thanks again!

[CTScott]

Oh yeah - I actually wrote that. I forgot that I pointed it to pin 7, instead of the larger gauge ground wire. That is fine...

It will be fused by the OEM 15A FOG fuse. The reason for the burnt relays was due to wiring it up incorrectly. 15A of current can do quite a bit of damage before popping the fuse.

If you are going to put the switch by the stalk, instead of in the center console, you might just want to use an easier to mount switch, like the round rocker switch that I used for mine. In that case, you use none of the harness, but rather just wire the switch to pin 3 and pin 7.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27157&d=1250036787

[TRD_Yaris]

Wow! Where'd you find the little round rocker switch?? That would be MUCH easier to mount than the huge, rectangular switch that came with it..and probably more durable.

[CTScott]

Wow! Where'd you find the little round rocker switch?? That would be MUCH easier to mount than the huge, rectangular switch that came with it..and probably more durable.

The switch came from Digikey.
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/CLS-RC11A125190R/67-1909-ND/701301

It looks like they stopped carrying it though. I have a bunch of them though, so if you want one let me know. The switch has a red LED that I wired to the dimmer rheostat (which is right next to the switch, making it easy to wire to).

[TRD_Yaris]

I found a nice lil "mini round rocker switch" at Autozone: it looks just like yours. Thanks again for the offer, though. I really do appreciate your help, assistance, parts procurement, and courtesy, CTScott!!! I've been surfing around YarisWorld all night (I haven't really been on here since 2007), and I see SO MANY posts where you've helped people through SOL situations :w00t:

I think tonight is the night on the foglights. I researched tap splices (you rock, CTScott!), and now I'm confident that I won't screw anything up, lol. Would you suggest tap splicing the power wire that goes into the under-the-hood fusebox to "Y" it to the pins (just like the tap splicing I'm doing to hook up the toggle switch to D4)? I can't promise that I'll take picture, since I'll be working at night, but we shall see what happens.

If I hadn't taken a week to get it all figured out, I bet I wouldn't appreciate the foglights like I will now. Nor would I have a better understanding of relays and how they can/are used in ways that make boolean recursion seem elementary.


Here is my running inventory so far:

*eBay Fog Light Kit (OEM style)
*Toyota OEM Relay (not necessary, but highly recommended)
*2 Pin Connectors (for Power wire to Fusebox)

*15A fuse (just in case there isn't one in the OEM foglight location)

*tap splices (Wire Tap-In Squeeze Connectors, to tap into D4)
*small toggle switch (not necessary)
*new 3500K H11 bulbs :cool:
*bulb connector grease
*soldering iron, electrical tape, epoxy (electrical encapsulation)
*small metal file and sandpaper (to make sure ground connections are solid)
*blue autobody masking tape (to cover edges of fenders, bumpers,
headlamps)
*gloves, paper towels, microfiber, Isopropyl alcohol
*assorted tools: 10 mm socket wrench, phillips screwdriver, _____, _______
*clear silicone epoxy (Just in case the cheap eBay foglights develop fog issues, it will be used to seal the edge of the lens AND the bulb socket)

****EDIT***
Check/Adjust Foglight alignment

I really hope I get this project done tonight. If everything goes smooth, I plan on starting an HID retrofit in the coming weeks. Something tells me it won't be as easy to retrofit the Yaris as it was my old Lexus GS..the fact that it's not already HID makes it an adventure.

BTW, do you know if Phillips/Lexus D2R bulbs are sought after like Phillips 81552 (#?) D2S Projector bulbs (best of the best)? I don't exactly see a lot of reflector-based HID headlamps nowadays. I've got a set of Phillips/Toyota/Lexus D2R bulbs Brand New in Box..trying to find someone in the know that can tell me if they're worth trying to sale or if I'd be wasting my time..lol. (As you can tell by my topic jumping, I'm really freakin' overwhelmed with life right now and I need sleep..lol)



g'night all....errrr..good day.

[CTScott]

I found a nice lil "mini round rocker switch" at Autozone: it looks just like yours. Thanks again for the offer, though. I really do appreciate your help, assistance, parts procurement, and courtesy, CTScott!!! I've been surfing around YarisWorld all night (I haven't really been on here since 2007), and I see SO MANY posts where you've helped people through SOL situations :w00t:

I think tonight is the night on the foglights. I researched tap splices (you rock, CTScott!), and now I'm confident that I won't screw anything up, lol. Would you suggest tap splicing the power wire that goes into the under-the-hood fusebox to "Y" it to the pins (just like the tap splicing I'm doing to hook up the toggle switch to D4)? I can't promise that I'll take picture, since I'll be working at night, but we shall see what happens.

If I hadn't taken a week to get it all figured out, I bet I wouldn't appreciate the foglights like I will now. Nor would I have a better understanding of relays and how they can/are used in ways that make boolean recursion seem elementary.


Here is my running inventory so far:

*eBay Fog Light Kit (OEM style)
*Toyota OEM Relay (not necessary, but highly recommended)
*2 Pin Connectors (for Power wire to Fusebox)

*15A fuse (just in case there isn't one in the OEM foglight location)

*tap splices (Wire Tap-In Squeeze Connectors, to tap into D4)
*small toggle switch (not necessary)
*new 3500K H11 bulbs :cool:
*bulb connector grease
*soldering iron, electrical tape, epoxy (electrical encapsulation)
*small metal file and sandpaper (to make sure ground connections are solid)
*blue autobody masking tape (to cover edges of fenders, bumpers,
headlamps)
*gloves, paper towels, microfiber, Isopropyl alcohol
*assorted tools: 10 mm socket wrench, phillips screwdriver, _____, _______
*clear silicone epoxy (Just in case the cheap eBay foglights develop fog issues, it will be used to seal the edge of the lens AND the bulb socket)

*3M Professional Headlight Restoration Kit


I really hope I get this project done tonight. If everything goes smooth, I plan on starting an HID retrofit in the coming weeks. Something tells me it won't be as easy to retrofit the Yaris as it was my old Lexus GS..the fact that it's not already HID makes it an adventure.

BTW, do you know if Phillips/Lexus D2R bulbs are sought after like Phillips 81552 (#?) D2S Projector bulbs (best of the best)? I don't exactly see a lot of reflector-based HID headlamps nowadays. I've got a set of Phillips/Toyota/Lexus D2R bulbs Brand New in Box..trying to find someone in the know that can tell me if they're worth trying to sale or if I'd be wasting my time..lol. (As you can tell by my topic jumping, I'm really freakin' overwhelmed with life right now and I need sleep..lol)



g'night all....errrr..good day.


I'm not sure on the bulbs, but it looks like you have everything that you need. For the connection between the under hood harness and the two pins that go into the fuse box connector, you could use the tap splices or normally for an end to end connection you would use a butt splice (which is a round tube that you stick a wire in either end and then crimp).

[yarisgirl100]

I dont think iv been on here in atleast 2 years! lol Its good to be back! :)

[TRD_Yaris]

I dont think iv been on here in atleast 2 years! lol Its good to be back! :)

Texas cuties in the house :wub:



Everything arrived today for the install. I just got out of work, now I'm heading out to the garage (too bad it's 20 miles from my house, lol) with camera in hand. If everything goes smooth, I'd be interested in finding another Yaris in the area to do the install on for a YouTube video. But, I should probably set my sights a bit lower for tonight :)

[TRD_Yaris]

Mission Complete :thumbup:

I still need to aim them, but I might as well wait until my new bulbs arrive. I plan on applying a small ring of silicone epoxy around the bulb socket to hold them firmly in place...just in case.

I did take a couple of photos, but I just got home and haven't had a chance to check them out. Does YarisWorld have a picture archive that I may upload to, or must I use a third party like Flickr?

I would REALLY like to do this install on another Yaris. IF I get the chance, I'll attempt a full instructional with photos. For the time being, I'll atleast try to get a step-by-step write-up and compile links to all the YarisWorld resources that helped in the process.

HUGE THANKS to CTScott!!

[TRD_Yaris]

I'm about to start going through photos now. I'll start a new thread for them to avoid confusion and to preserve any useful information here :confused: :laugh:

The rocker switch that I used has 3 prongs. I didn't wire up the 3rd prong for the diode (LED) yet. But, when I do I will connect it to the Illumination wire (aka: rheostat, dimmer...a function with many names..lol), correct? The main reason I didn't do this was because I had been up all night and didn't want to get the other 2 wires mixed up and cause some type of damage. I'm assuming Illumination is next to Ground, so that the diode can make connection and provide light when Illumination goes positve. That means that the wire to Pin 3 is on the other end of the 3 prongs, and the on/off disconnects it from the other 2. I'll try to post up a little picture of the wiring diagram, since my lack of an electrician's vocabulary is probably very confusing.

[CTScott]

I'm about to start going through photos now. I'll start a new thread for them to avoid confusion and to preserve any useful information here :confused: :laugh:

The rocker switch that I used has 3 prongs. I didn't wire up the 3rd prong for the diode (LED) yet. But, when I do I will connect it to the Illumination wire (aka: rheostat, dimmer...a function with many names..lol), correct? The main reason I didn't do this was because I had been up all night and didn't want to get the other 2 wires mixed up and cause some type of damage. I'm assuming Illumination is next to Ground, so that the diode can make connection and provide light when Illumination goes positve. That means that the wire to Pin 3 is on the other end of the 3 prongs, and the on/off disconnects it from the other 2. I'll try to post up a little picture of the wiring diagram, since my lack of an electrician's vocabulary is probably very confusing.

If the switch is only a 3 terminal one then don't connect the illumination. For the way that the fog light circuit works the illumination and switching need to be separated. If you connect the illumination wire to the 3 terminal switch, you will then be bridging the fog light and illumination circuits, which you do not want to do.

The switch that I posted the link to above has the LED completely separate from the switch (i.e. There are 4 terminals - 2 for the switch and 2 for the LED). With that switch the switch contacts are part of the fog light circuit and the LED is a completely separate device on the illumination circuit.

[TRD_Yaris]

Cool!! The fact that you had mentioned that was why I decided to leave it alone.
None of my pictures turned out very well. I re-read a few articles on nighttime automotive photography, and I'll give it another go tonight after I finsish polishing the car. Chris07LB would be proud, I'm finally using Turtle Wax Ice Polish :laugh:
The 3500K bulbs I installed look really nice, but the lighting on a dry night is terrible compared to the untinted, white(ish) bulbs that the fog lights came with. Though, I'll save my criticism until I've had a chance to actually use them in the fog, and until I've confirmed that they're perfectly aimed. The amber should cut through the mist/fog better than white, due to the lack of the blue spectrum refracting off the moisture in the air. We shall see.

[TRD_Yaris]

I'm still working on photos. The first 2 sets came out HORRENDOUS!!