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MUSKOKA800
08-01-2011, 06:55 PM
Anybody here have any experience with extra negative camber set-ups for street driving?

I need to do something to eleviate my tire to fender rubbing during aggressive turns, road dips and when the car is ladden with passengers. No problem at the rear, just the outer edge of the fronts.

I recall Loren stating that an extra -1.5 degrees from OEM spec. would be fine for street running. I'd be willing to go even further providing the car doesn't get all darty, which I suspect it might with the 215 tires. Especially in the deep truck ruts our highways and streets offer.

Who can suggest a reasonable starting set-up?
Perhaps I can cut a deal with a local alignment shop to make minor front camber adjustments so I can sample more than one setting while not paying for a full alignment job each try???

:iono: OR, perhaps I should just buy a magnetic camber gauge and go at it myself??? I did have the camber bolts installed back when I got my post lowering alignment done.

detroiter
08-01-2011, 09:02 PM
Did you try doing the washer camber install yet? I'm not sure how exactly to do it but if you search on the forum here, I know someone did a write up on it.

YarisSedan
08-01-2011, 10:10 PM
You can do it with camber bolts. Jack the car off the ground and rotate the camber bolt with the wheel on you will see the wheel move in and out. When it gets to a certain point the bolt will sort of pop and the rotation will have reached its limit. You want to get it just right max at the most negative camber. Keep in mind anytime you change camber you will change caster which is a non adjustable item with out some sort of modified control arm. Also every degree of camber dramatically changes toe. It more than likely will cause you to have excessive toe out. A little bit is okay as it will help on turns but too much can cause your car to wander as well as cause tire wear.

What you can do is bring the car to an alignment shop and ask for a custom alignment. Tell them you want the max negative camber possible but set the toe to zero. Its something any tire shop can do. Make sure you ask for a before and after measurement printout.

johnny_vitz
08-01-2011, 11:14 PM
Anybody here have any experience with extra negative camber set-ups for street driving?

I need to do something to eleviate my tire to fender rubbing during aggressive turns, road dips and when the car is ladden with passengers. No problem at the rear, just the outer edge of the fronts.

I recall Loren stating that an extra -1.5 degrees from OEM spec. would be fine for street running. I'd be willing to go even further providing the car doesn't get all darty, which I suspect it might with the 215 tires. Especially in the deep truck ruts our highways and streets offer.

Who can suggest a reasonable starting set-up?
Perhaps I can cut a deal with a local alignment shop to make minor front camber adjustments so I can sample more than one setting while not paying for a full alignment job each try???

:iono: OR, perhaps I should just buy a magnetic camber gauge and go at it myself??? I did have the camber bolts installed back when I got my post lowering alignment done.

I've got a bit over -2 degrees up front. I wouldn't recommend going much over -1.5, even then you might have some pulling in ruts and whatnot and accelerated wear on the inner edge of the tire. If you already have camber bolts up front, it would take a shop 1/2 hour to dial it in to whatever you want...you'd have to work out the amount they charge with them though. Do you know what it's sitting at now?

thebarber
08-01-2011, 11:39 PM
i say camber bolts...

Viperoni
08-02-2011, 12:17 AM
Scott @ Can-alignment outside of Hamilton. Nuff said.

I'm running 1.5* in the front and 1.4* in the rear, 0 toe all around, sticks great.

johnny_vitz
08-02-2011, 12:27 AM
905 - 690 - 3100 :thumbup:

MUSKOKA800
08-02-2011, 04:04 PM
Did you try doing the washer camber install yet? I'm not sure how exactly to do it but if you search on the forum here, I know someone did a write up on it.

The washer install is for rear wheel camber setting. I'm good out back. It's up front where I have issues.

MUSKOKA800
08-02-2011, 04:08 PM
Scott @ Can-alignment outside of Hamilton. Nuff said.

I'm running 1.5* in the front and 1.4* in the rear, 0 toe all around, sticks great.

Thanks guy's! I'll contact Scott for an appointment. The website looks like what I'm after and he's conveniently close to Burlington. :thumbsup:

EDIT: appointment set for next Tuesday afternoon. I'll update after that.

MUSKOKA800
08-08-2011, 07:28 PM
i say camber bolts...



I have camber bolts already. The local tire shop installed them for me when I had my post-TRD installation alignment done.
I've often oggled the magnetic camber gauges seen on eBay and wondered if I couldn't put one to use.