front upper struct bar

[jonhy_ sm]

hi guys, have any of u guys ever bought one of these?
is it good?
how does if feel in the car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-2010-TOYOTA-YARIS-4DR-5DR-FRONT-STRUT-TOWER-BAR-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aYarisQQhashZitem45 f96ec4c0QQitemZ300537529536QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTru ckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#vi-ilComp

regards

[staticorex]

I don't have that one but mine looks very similar. I like mine and many other people on the site swear by theirs. A strut brace is s nice addition to a Yaris but I'm wary of that price. Most good strut tower bars are 100-150 dollars. So I don't know how good this one will be.

I'm looking at the pic to see if I can see any weak parts. The only questionable part I see is the set of brackets connecting the flat part to the bar. They seem a bit thin.

[ilikerice]

front upper strut bars are not very functional on a FWD car like our yaris. You already have enough understeer from the factory as it is and FWD cars are already tight enough. I say this is more of a cosmetic bolt-on then a performance one. I would suggest if your looking for performance, go rear swaybars to stiffin the rear a bit.

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

IVE noticed a difference with my BEATRUSH front bar off the car BUT thats me!!

OP's question: id leave that ebay junk alone and get something BRAND NAME.....

[ilikerice]

yea, more understeer :biggrin:

j/k, to each thier own. Try it out, If it suits your driving style, keep it. If you dont like it, sell it.

I used a DC sports on my crx before i started autocross. Someone suggested taking it off to see if it would help my understeer. It did.. Not dramaticlly, but just a couple 1/10th of a second helps in any type of racing.. I see no real use for the front strut bar for performance gain.. just looks IMOP!

[jonhy_ sm]

will the front upper struct bar make the car feel less of a boat in the corners?

[ROCKLANDTOYOTA]

will the front upper struct bar make the car feel less of a boat in the corners?

according to the post#3 NO.....

[jonhy_ sm]

so, what you are saying, in order to reduce chassis flex while cornering, i should install a rear sway bar( under the car) instead of a upper struct bar in the front?
isn't almost all the weight of the car in the front because of the engine?
regards

[ilikerice]

yes. thats what causes that "turning light a boat" feel. All the weight is up front and your front tires are whats pulling the car. Your back suspension stock is loose that causes your car to shift its weight to the outside front tire when turning. By stiffing your rear sway bar (or lack thier of) you force that outside rear tire to push off the ground, keeping more weight leveled thru the car.. Sway bars are really pushing the strut but I say tire cuz its better to understand that your tires are the thing thats hold you on the road. either way.. Someone can explain it better then me. I've come across many threads on this topic under different topics

In the Track/autocross threads they go in more detail about the geometry of it. Tamago has a good write up on this. I cant find it though. Also talk to Jason@scca, check his thread posts, he has a lot of expericence and knowledge on making your car track worthy.

[jonhy_ sm]

so..in order to improve cornering, you would advise a rear sway bar ? is tihis under ther or in the boot?

[ilikerice]

Under the car, connects to the lower strut on each side

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34867&highlight=23mm+bar

[cali yaris]

^ rear trailing arms, actually :biggrin:

[Lil Abner]

I recommend the rear sway bar like everyone else. Then you can add the front strut bar. But the rear sway will give you the BEST bang for your buck. And MicroImage has the best ones!

[why?]

rear sway bar is great, so is a better suspension.

[bzinn 1]

rear sway,23mm is incredable....car actually feels tight now and it aims better in corners now too.

[ilikerice]

^ rear trailing arms, actually :biggrin:

Thanks for the correction

[advocate]

OP's question: id leave that ebay junk alone and get something BRAND NAME.....



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