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Yury
10-03-2011, 04:35 PM
Since I am relatively new to Yaris and don't always know what's normal and what's not...
Whenever I accelerate, somewhere around 2000 rpm my engine sound changes. It gets this buzzy component to it. It's steady and is not a rattle or clank or tap-tap, just a steady buzz.
If I just rev up while standing the engine sound remains a consistent purr.

The car is 3 years old but very low mileage - 25000 km (~15000 miles).

Normal?

Thanks.

A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby
10-03-2011, 05:09 PM
is it a hissing ?
a whining ?
a purring ?
a scraping ?
a squealing ?
a muffled whine/purr/scrape/buzz/squeal ?
a gear noise ?
a creak ?
a "nya, nya" ?
a "ohm, ohm, nya, nya"
or "who, whu, wuuu, wuuu" (Bubb Rubb)


Here are all the possible sounds:

Bad Bearing in Timing Belt Tensioner: woh woh woh woh
Boiling Coolant: bllgh blllgggh blllllgggghh
Brake Booster Failing: hissssssssss ssss ss
Clutch Release Bearing on the Way Out: jee je je jeee
Clutch Screech: screek, screek, screek
Connecting Rod that went through the Engine Block: clicketta clicketta clicketta
Dieseling: blubBLUBblubBLUB
Engine Knock: tuckaTHUCKtuckaTHUCKtucka
Engine Reving Up and Down: vooRRRR, vooRRR, vooRRR
Fly Wheel: gurrEENK, gurrEENK, gurrENK
Loose Belt: YEEeeEEeeEEeeEEeeEEee!
Low Coolant: bwwob bwwwobbubwub
Misfire: puhVRooPuhHoo puhVROOpuhHOO
Sticky Lifters: dicka, dicka, dicka, dicka
Water Pump: grrgula, grrgul,grrgula, vum wum wum wum wum
Weak Battery: wurrrrRRRRrrrrwuRRRrrr
Wiper Transmission Sound: eee eee eeee eeee
Vacuum Leak: vwishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yury
10-03-2011, 05:18 PM
I'd say a constant muffled buzz. If I had the radio on at a reasonable level I would not notice it.
none of your sounds match really.

Altitude
10-03-2011, 05:23 PM
Maybe it's air wooshing past the throttle plate.

Kaykogi
10-03-2011, 05:30 PM
is it a hissing ?
a whining ?
a purring ?
a scraping ?
a squealing ?
a muffled whine/purr/scrape/buzz/squeal ?
a gear noise ?
a creak ?
a "nya, nya" ?
a "ohm, ohm, nya, nya"
or "who, whu, wuuu, wuuu" (Bubb Rubb)


Here are all the possible sounds:

Bad Bearing in Timing Belt Tensioner: woh woh woh woh
Boiling Coolant: bllgh blllgggh blllllgggghh
Brake Booster Failing: hissssssssss ssss ss
Clutch Release Bearing on the Way Out: jee je je jeee
Clutch Screech: screek, screek, screek
Connecting Rod that went through the Engine Block: clicketta clicketta clicketta
Dieseling: blubBLUBblubBLUB
Engine Knock: tuckaTHUCKtuckaTHUCKtucka
Engine Reving Up and Down: vooRRRR, vooRRR, vooRRR
Fly Wheel: gurrEENK, gurrEENK, gurrENK
Loose Belt: YEEeeEEeeEEeeEEeeEEee!
Low Coolant: bwwob bwwwobbubwub
Misfire: puhVRooPuhHoo puhVROOpuhHOO
Sticky Lifters: dicka, dicka, dicka, dicka
Water Pump: grrgula, grrgul,grrgula, vum wum wum wum wum
Weak Battery: wurrrrRRRRrrrrwuRRRrrr
Wiper Transmission Sound: eee eee eeee eeee
Vacuum Leak: vwishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

This is the best thing I have ever seen in my life.

Kaykogi
10-03-2011, 05:31 PM
"who, whu, wuuu, wuuu" (Bubb Rubb)


Especially this one.

Yury
10-03-2011, 05:43 PM
another thing that comes to mind is leafs rustling. but steady, no variation to it.

Yury
10-04-2011, 12:39 PM
Just test drove a colleague's Echo. Found the same sound. It was less prominent but it was there. Her Echo sounds a little quieter altogether maybe that's why there was it was less.

Anyhow, I will chalk it up as normal for this engine.

josh044
10-04-2011, 03:16 PM
I have the same thing on mine. I've never owned a car with a timing chain, and I don't think you're supposed to hear a timing chain, but this is how I'd describe it. It's what I think timing chain noise would sound like.

Yury
10-04-2011, 03:24 PM
I have the same thing on mine. I've never owned a car with a timing chain, and I don't think you're supposed to hear a timing chain, but this is how I'd describe it. It's what I think timing chain noise would sound like.

i've been thinking the same thing exactly.

CoryM
10-05-2011, 11:00 PM
The timing chain on my car is audible as well. It's a whirring noise that gets faster as engine rpm goes up. It sounds a lot like the whine of an alternator charging hard if you have ever heard that.

Cheers.
Cory

Yury
10-05-2011, 11:35 PM
The timing chain on my car is audible as well. It's a whirring noise that gets faster as engine rpm goes up. It sounds a lot like the whine of an alternator charging hard if you have ever heard that.

Cheers.
Cory

like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGGoHOjeVn4 starting аt sec 8? that sounds similar to my engine :)

CoryM
10-05-2011, 11:56 PM
No. Chains sound like this maxima. You can hear it most as the engine rpm is coming down after the throttle snap. A whine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paPZ-iwZakk&feature=related

In his case the plastic the chain rubs against is worn or broken off the tensioner and is now on the metal so is louder than normal. Our yarii chains are a little noisy but seems normal.
Cheers.

Yury
10-06-2011, 12:04 AM
No. Chains sound like this maxima. You can hear it most as the engine rpm is coming down after the throttle snap. A whine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paPZ-iwZakk&feature=related

In his case the plastic the chain rubs against is worn or broken off the tensioner and is now on the metal so is louder than normal. Our yarii chains are a little noisy but seems normal.
Cheers.

so what am I hearing then...mine sounds much like in the link I posted, except that I have to be accelerating, not just revving.

EDIT: although I must say that the noises in these 2 videos are not that far apart tone wise, esp accounting for the variations of the recording equipment/environment

Yury
10-06-2011, 01:28 PM
Dropped by a dealer this morning. They tightened up exhaust heat shields, but that didn't make much difference.
Also showed it to my mechanic. He pronounced it normal, and said that what I am hearing is a sound of the air intake. I drove around this this in my head and I agree that this sound may be described as air rushing in through a small opening. Psychology is a funny thing :)
He did mention that the intake design on these is 'tricky' (he said that in russian, but that's the best translation)

TOLMACH
10-13-2011, 01:06 AM
Dropped by a dealer this morning. They tightened up exhaust heat shields, but that didn't make much difference.
Also showed it to my mechanic. He pronounced it normal, and said that what I am hearing is a sound of the air intake. I drove around this this in my head and I agree that this sound may be described as air rushing in through a small opening. Psychology is a funny thing :)
He did mention that the intake design on these is 'tricky' (he said that in russian, but that's the best translation)


Yuriy,

I have the same sound.

What exactly did mechanic say about the intake? (I speak some Russian) :confused:

Pavel

Yury
10-13-2011, 01:21 AM
Pavel,

He said "это нормально, я пытался разобраться и там интейк хитрый." Which is pretty close to my english translation :)
He said that 1.8 engines had the sound as well.

The more I drive it the more I hear this as whooshing air.
Also, look at the shape of the throttle body gasket:

http://www.drivewire.com/images/shop/prodimage/thumbs/felpro/FP61463.jpg

I can totally see this mesh at the bottom making interesting noises and kinda concur with my mechanic.

TOLMACH
10-13-2011, 01:40 AM
Thanks ))

I have a 2 yo car with circa 40k on the odomoter and hear this strange sound as well. I am glad I found this thread cause my mechanical skills do not go beyond installing car speakers.

Yury
10-13-2011, 08:46 AM
^ besides, both of us still have powertrain warranty, should something bad go down we're covered.
But I don't think anything is wrong though, the car runs like a champ.

firemachine69
10-14-2011, 04:14 AM
There was a TSB for the air-intake box, requiring some foam washers.


I also just blew my serpentine belt this weekend, previous noise made me miss it (chalked it up to an imbalanced four cylinder engine design).

Yury
10-14-2011, 08:53 AM
would you happen to know where i can look at that tsb?

firemachine69
10-14-2011, 10:01 PM
It's in the TSB thread (sticky).

Yury
10-14-2011, 10:28 PM
what is the number? I looked over that thread and didn't see anything about the air box.

thanks.

Yury
10-16-2011, 02:06 PM
I cleaned the MAF sensor and the noise softened noticeably. At this point I barely hear it. I suppose the airflow was undermeasured which resulted in different timing and more air sucked thought the intake.
My mileage was pretty bad too, seems to be improving. I also cleaned the tb a week ago, but that did not change the noise.

anyhow, the engine sounds better. if it was like that when I got the car I would not have payed any attention to it.