carbon fiber fender flares

[TickleTimeTim]

picked these off a guy with an xb, i would like to make the rear ones work too, but we will see if i can make it happen. they are rivet less, so i guess i need to fill up the back with that seaform concrete stuff, and then 3m? if you have suggestions, please let me know. i figured the small part of the rear fender that shows under the flare, i could cover in the vinyl carbon fiber so its not so obvious. its hard to see unless squatting down anyway. please tel me what you think. Figured they were worth the $50 i paid for them. now i just need spacers.

[TickleTimeTim]

crap. gotta get to school, will get pictures working later

[TickleTimeTim]

there. try that

[WeeYari]

Bought for $50, try flipping them and make a little coin. I don't feel that one bit and think it will look like out-of-place stick-ons.

[TickleTimeTim]

I've been real back and forth myself. we shall see.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I don't feel that one bit and think it will look like out-of-place stick-ons.

X2

[Klink10]

Unless you are gonna go bigger meats to fill them out I just can't see it either. Good luck though.

[TickleTimeTim]

i messed with them for a while, but im not thinking i can make them look remotely decent. i guess they will fit in the trash can though

[roneezy360]

i messed with them for a while, but im not thinking i can make them look remotely decent. i guess they will fit in the trash can though

No! They wont fit in the thrash can!

Ill take them off of you!

If you dont want them im willing to take lol

[eTiMaGo]

If you can't find anyone close by, I'm quite interested too!! Don't let good CF go to waste!!!

[SAV912]

I think if you get some spacers, and the required meat on the wheels to pull it off, it might look alright. However, I can't look at the rears and be okay with that notch in them. I guess for the rear doors on an xB. That'd have to be filled in.

-C

[eTiMaGo]

or installed on a 5-door :D

[cali yaris]

^ someone should try that! Or you can sell them to an xB owner.

[TickleTimeTim]

it prob would look better on a 5 door, i just don't wanna mess with them right now. it slowed me down from buying turbo parts. i have the fronts flares filled with Great Stuff, in order to have something to 3m tape to. i doubt these are worth anything to anyone.

[TickleTimeTim]

meh feeling it out

[ArmyYaris]

it does flow pretty good with the theme of your car, not completely sold until you put all 4 of them on and put another pic up though.

[jekqmb]

Needs some 15x8 or 16x8's with a +15 offset and coilovers to work well! Would look good though with your car theme!

[cali yaris]

Needs some 15x8 or 16x8's with a +15 offset and coilovers to work well! Would look good though with your car theme!

You'd still have to clear your stock fenders, unless you're willing to cut them.

[TickleTimeTim]

I figure ill go for the biggest spacers available. And if anyone ever sells nice wheels for cheap out this way ill consider that. I'm still messing with the other flares cause I had filled them with great stuff, and its getting in the way. I'm started to get used to it, but they have a little gap at the back. I'll get more pics.

[jekqmb]

I figure ill go for the biggest spacers available. And if anyone ever sells nice wheels for cheap out this way ill consider that. I'm still messing with the other flares cause I had filled them with great stuff, and its getting in the way. I'm started to get used to it, but they have a little gap at the back. I'll get more pics.

You plan on cutting the rear fenders? I didnt think about that since Garm just mentioned it. :iono:

[cali yaris]

Yes my point is that you aren't creating any room inside the edge of the flare. The stock fender edge will be sitting right there, an inch or so inside. So either the tire still has to be inside of the fender edge (and therefore not flush with the flare), or you have to leave enough clearance (ride height) so the tire doesn't touch the stock fender on bumps. That will look wonky.

The alternative to get the flush look I think you want is to trim the fender -- but cutting metal permanently is not for everyone; there is no going back.

[TickleTimeTim]

Can I do 30mm spacers and still be in stock weld? Cutting metal is not for me, I learned that when I tried to drill for a spoiler.

[WeeYari]

Maximum spacing to achieve easily would be about 23mm with a combination of hub and wheel spacers. Getting long emough stud bolts into the hub for anything longer than 10mm wheel spacers pretty much requires disassembly of the hub. Regardless, you still have to deal with, or accept the issue of your fenders slamming down on top of the tires if you don't cut away the fender arches.

[ilikerice]

Yeppers.. I think this is the end of the road for your fender flare project. If you are not willing to cut your fenders for a flush look, its gonna look really goofy. like a 4x4 Jeep if you keep stock ride height... if you lower it any at all, you will be cut up your tires and your skin will crawl every time it happens.. ask me how I know..

[TickleTimeTim]

So does that mean that everyone on this forum that has spacers either rubs or has cut away the fenders?

[WeeYari]

Most with anything more than a mild drop, with spacers 10mm or greater experience a rub with standard +42mm offset wheels. The rub experienced is the rear fender clearing the tread and making contact with the sidewall. If you are talking about 30mm spacers, then I'm guessing you would be looking at an effective offset somewhere around +10 to +15mm. The front is a whole other story since there is less outward movement to play with and rubbing will also occur during full left/right turns.

[cali yaris]

So does that mean that everyone on this forum that has spacers either rubs or has cut away the fenders?

No -- but they aren't using flares. THEIR tires still tuck inside the stock fender. The flare brings the visual edge of your fender out 1-1.5". So if you still tuck inside the stock fender under there, you won't be near the edge of the flare. That won't, in my opinion, look very good.

Get it?

[TickleTimeTim]

im getting it. but it now makes no difference as 3m doesn't put up as good a fight at 100mph....sucked that bad boy right off my car. oh well, wasn't meant to be.

[cali yaris]

:eek:

[ilikerice]

HOly monkey balls, 100mph using only 3M tape? *GASP* are they ruined now?

[JDMPORT]

Man. I told you to put some screws in the bottom, guy. I am so sorry to hear about that happening. When I sold those to you, I wanted you to get a really good look at them. I had 10mm spacers in my rear wheels along with -5 camber plates and they sat just right in the rear when I test fit them, however, I just decided not to go with flares. That sucks that you lost one, tho. Your friends are definitely right about spacing your wheels. However, with Coilovers, if set right and not trying to slam them on the fenders when sitting still, you maybe could have avoided MUCH rubbing. Unfortunately with these flares, you could not get away with rolling the fenders. HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker. Here is a best bet for you. If you are still into getting flares, go with the ones that screw into your fender. With the exposed bolts. YEs, they DO sell them in Carbon Fiber. No, it will NOT look wack if done RIGHT. Honestly, if you are not afraid of it, get a fiberglass shop in our local area to custom make you some flares. Wouldn't hurt. May cost a bit, but you wil get EXACTLY what you desired. My personal opinion, slam the crap out of your Yaris, boss. Forget flares. Do like I did. Seriously. -Dame

[JDMPORT]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z84/jdmport/16248_102724339753797_1000004869445.jpg
Much like this. Just minus the Camber. Forget flares and slam it. Are Yaris' able to do that? LOL!!

[jekqmb]

Man. I told you to put some screws in the bottom, guy. I am so sorry to hear about that happening. When I sold those to you, I wanted you to get a really good look at them. I had 10mm spacers in my rear wheels along with -5 camber plates and they sat just right in the rear when I test fit them, however, I just decided not to go with flares. That sucks that you lost one, tho. Your friends are definitely right about spacing your wheels. However, with Coilovers, if set right and not trying to slam them on the fenders when sitting still, you maybe could have avoided MUCH rubbing. Unfortunately with these flares, you could not get away with rolling the fenders. HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker. Here is a best bet for you. If you are still into getting flares, go with the ones that screw into your fender. With the exposed bolts. YEs, they DO sell them in Carbon Fiber. No, it will NOT look wack if done RIGHT. Honestly, if you are not afraid of it, get a fiberglass shop in our local area to custom make you some flares. Wouldn't hurt. May cost a bit, but you wil get EXACTLY what you desired. My personal opinion, slam the crap out of your Yaris, boss. Forget flares. Do like I did. Seriously. -Dame

Its a bit different to slam a Yaris then it is an XB..... I could stance out a Bb in no time at all compared to a Yaris. They are totally different animals.

[jekqmb]

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z84/jdmport/16248_102724339753797_1000004869445.jpg
Much like this. Just minus the Camber. Forget flares and slam it. Are Yaris' able to do that? LOL!!

That isnt even slammed for a Bb... Check out BCPbox (Craig) or Dancar420 (Dan) I know both of them personally, thats how to stance a Bb, Craig has been helping me with my Yaris. :thumbup:

[JDMPORT]

Trust me, its lower than that now. Ask Tickletim. I just put that one up for an example of sitting right above the fenders. Mine is now tucking on all four with negative camber all around and I am extremely careful with trying not to knock out my power steering belt all the time. LOL!!

[JDMPORT]

And I know both the guys you speak of (not personally, but from other sites: CLubxB and bB Squad) and both have served a LOT as an inspiration for me and my B.

[jekqmb]

And I know both the guys you speak of (not personally, but from other sites: CLubxB and bB Squad) and both have served a LOT as an inspiration for me and my B.

Ya i see your avatar pic! Looks great :thumbup:
Craig is helping me with my Yaris, he lives about 15 minutes from me haha, its one of the lowest on this site with a coilover setup that should not allow me to be :biggrin:
I would love to have Bb, Craig keeps trying to sell me his damn wheels and to put the cheating air shock setup on my Yaris lol.

[JDMPORT]

Thanks, Bro. And I wish I could ride as slammed as those guys, but in Arkansas, lets just say the roads are not as forgiving in a lot of areas, even for a seasoned slammed car driver like myself. So,I keep it decent while still tucking out. I am still learning a bit about the Yaris. I like the way they are little mini cars but so much looks like it can be done to them, so forgive me for my lack of knowledge on the limits you can push them to. I would love to have one just to see how much I could do to one while still keeping it clean.

[cali yaris]

Sorry, but this is pure BS. Mine are cut, and Jason's are cut. Both cars make power and both are raced under extreme conditions. Trimming the fenders has no effect on the car at all. Zero.

Got no problem with the rest of your advice, though.

HOWEVER, I would NOT advise you to cut the fenders as that will take away from the strength and support that is meant for that panel of your car. You will make it alot weaker.

[JDMPORT]

Well, let me ask YOU for clarification. Are we talking cutting the entire fender for more of a tire clearance, my friend, or simply trimming the lip (which is not bad at all)? Trimming a lip on the car would have no type of negative effect because it could be the same as rolling the fender lip. Which, in this case, he couldnt do due to the way the flares are attached to the bottom of the fender. But hacking your fenders up so to give you more wheel clearance may not be ideal at all. (I am talking cutting a section out of your fender panel and COVERING it up with the flare so that there is nothing for it to rub against and giving it a higher point of contact than stock.) Not trying to ruffle feathers here, just may have read into it wrong, myself.

[cali yaris]

We are talking about making clearance so wheels/tires can be flush with a fender flare and still clear the fender. In my case, this required about 2" fender trim at the top maximum. Approximately a 90 degree radius of trimming total.

That's what the thread was about. :smile:

You said "cut the fenders" with no clarification, as though it were true in all cases.... just to clarify.

[JDMPORT]

Gotcha. My mistake.

[ilikerice]

agreed with garm. Auto cross guys cut their fenders all the time.. Literally saw a guy with a Porsche who just hand new wider tires put on (dont remember how much bigger) but brought a cordless hacksaw and cut his fenders, just so his tires wouldnt rub.. He said people told him they will rub under extreme turns so he came prepared. This was literally my 2nd autox event i ever been to. Racer to the extreme..

[cali yaris]

No worries. And I'm sure we could list some cars that would suffer in some structural way from fender trimming.

[TickleTimeTim]

Man I am so glad you joined the forum. This guy is awesome and his xb is sick. Welcome aboard.

[JDMPORT]

Thanks, Bro. Again, I am sorry the flares didn't work out.