Do you like the 2012 restyle?

[hitmoninfinity]

I probably missed where this was discussed many times before, but do you guys actually like the new look?

I think it looks like the Echo and last year's Corolla had a baby. I loved the curvy, "cute" look the Yaris had, this seems like a step backwards in my opinion.

[Thirty-Nine]

At first I didn't. However, it's growing on me.

[WeeYari]

Lots of chatter here http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31607

[beebosaur]

not the exterior. but i LOVE the interior. i just got my 11 and my original plan was to wait for the 12 but my old car broke down and i got a good deal. the exterior looks too much like the matrix IMO. and what i love about the yaris is the bubbly-ness of it anyway. the interior of the 12 looks much more luxurious than the 11 though.

[Chuck G]

As much as I really want to like it (HUGE Yaris fan)
I can't stand it!!
Interior looks cheap & cheesy to me, & I don't like the sharp edges (Body)

[Shinare]

...
Interior looks cheap & cheesy to me, ...

Heh, I love my 2007 yaris, but I would never say the interior was "high quality" hehe.

[Chuck G]

Heh, I love my 2007 yaris, but I would never say the interior was "high quality" hehe.

Just looks cheaper to me.

[beebosaur]

As much as I really want to like it (HUGE Yaris fan)
I can't stand it!!
Interior looks cheap & cheesy to me, & I don't like the sharp edges (Body)

really? i think it has a more luxurious feel to it.

[kimona]

Hate it! If I were in the market for a small car again, I'd pass on the 2012 model.

[Klink10]

^^^Ditto.

[firemachine69]

If someone is trying to sell me the idea that the interior of my 07 has any quality... Well I have a tall building in paris that needs to be sold. :biggrin:

Having said that, I really don't like the new one. I like my center-mounted cluster. :redface:

[Chuck G]

Hate it! If I were in the market for a small car again, I'd pass on the 2012 model.

That's what bums me out, I'd really like to be looking forward to getting a new Yaris in the future (does that make any sense)
Oh well, I really like my car.

[Chuck G]

If someone is trying to sell me the idea that the interior of my 07 has any quality... Well I have a tall building in paris that needs to be sold. :biggrin:

Having said that, I really don't like the new one. I like my center-mounted cluster. :redface:

I think the word was "luxurious"

[mr9865]

I'm thinking I may get a 12, because of the college grad rebate and because my current car, the echo gets amazing gas millage and has been problem free. I also want a 3 door hatch. The fiat 500 is tempting but I'm not to high on vehicles built in Mexico, my last two Mexican cars where the focus zx3 and an escort, both had troubles. sonic is a possibility but costs more. Not sure on the yaris styling, need to see it in person.

[Bernie P.]

I like it but I hate that they dropped the sedan.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I like it but I hate that they dropped the sedan.

not dropped just UNAVAILABLE to public until its re-style.....

[TwoBearWisconsin]

I'm seriously thinking of a '12 Hyundai Accent SE as my next car.

[teddy]

Hate it! If I were in the market for a small car again, I'd pass on the 2012 model.

It'd be a hard sell to go for a 2012 Yaris right now with its competition. The new Accent, Fiesta, and Sonic, plus the Fit all beat the new Yaris at this point IMO.

When I got my 2008 hatchback it was a no brainer, the subcompact market was awful. The Yaris was easily at the top and we already wanted a Toyota.

The competition? Accent: awful until the 2012 redesign. Aveo: awful enough that they replaced with with the Sonic. Fiesta: Wasn't around. Fit: Ugly little thing until the 2009 redesign, plus a premium price.

[Chuck G]

It'd be a hard sell to go for a 2012 Yaris right now with its competition. The new Accent, Fiesta, and Sonic, plus the Fit all beat the new Yaris at this point IMO.

When I got my 2008 hatchback it was a no brainer, the subcompact market was awful. The Yaris was easily at the top and we already wanted a Toyota.

The competition? Accent: awful until the 2012 redesign. Aveo: awful enough that they replaced with with the Sonic. Fiesta: Wasn't around. Fit: Ugly little thing until the 2009 redesign, plus a premium price.

Sad but very true.

[beebosaur]

I'm thinking I may get a 12, because of the college grad rebate and because my current car, the echo gets amazing gas millage and has been problem free. I also want a 3 door hatch. The fiat 500 is tempting but I'm not to high on vehicles built in Mexico, my last two Mexican cars where the focus zx3 and an escort, both had troubles. sonic is a possibility but costs more. Not sure on the yaris styling, need to see it in person.

the college grad rebate is pretty awesome. $1000 off PLUS automatic tier 1 rates as long as you don't have charge offs over $1000. my credit isn't great but i have $0 charge offs and i was able to get tier 1.

[mr9865]

the college grad rebate is pretty awesome. $1000 off PLUS automatic tier 1 rates as long as you don't have charge offs over $1000. my credit isn't great but i have $0 charge offs and i was able to get tier 1.

Just saw one at the dealer today (5 door le grey), i like everything but the rear end. I would be interested in the 3 door L which makes the car priced nicely with the rebate!

[Bernie P.]

I'm seriously thinking of a '12 Hyundai Accent SE as my next car.

I drove a loaded Accent with the auto tranny a while back.Really nice but even with what appears to be a very good warranty I'd still be concerned about it's unproven reliability.Not that I'd expect it to equal the Yaris or any Toyota but still.

[Bernie P.]

It'd be a hard sell to go for a 2012 Yaris right now with its competition. The new Accent, Fiesta, and Sonic, plus the Fit all beat the new Yaris at this point IMO.

When I got my 2008 hatchback it was a no brainer, the subcompact market was awful. The Yaris was easily at the top and we already wanted a Toyota.

The competition? Accent: awful until the 2012 redesign. Aveo: awful enough that they replaced with with the Sonic. Fiesta: Wasn't around. Fit: Ugly little thing until the 2009 redesign, plus a premium price.

All good points.My folks went with the 2011 Fiesta S sedan just last month.I have to admit it's a really nice car at a very good price.

[Twisterboy]

As a Mark 3 owner I do like it.... Looks like a Auris at the front and that seems to be a way toyota seem to be doing things at the moment, trying to keep the family identity in all their cars.

Davy

[TwoBearWisconsin]

I drove a loaded Accent with the auto tranny a while back.Really nice but even with what appears to be a very good warranty I'd still be concerned about it's unproven reliability.Not that I'd expect it to equal the Yaris or any Toyota but still.

I had a 2003 Elantra and it was every bit as reliable in the time I had it as the Yaris. My only complaint was that I didn't get the hatchback.

[roxy1]

I drove a loaded Accent with the auto tranny a while back.Really nice but even with what appears to be a very good warranty I'd still be concerned about it's unproven reliability.Not that I'd expect it to equal the Yaris or any Toyota but still.

even the previous gen accents have proven reliable and i expect the '12 accent to be even moreso. its not just talk. as the years go by, more and more data supports the reliability of hyundai. i owned the 2012 accent before getting my veloster and it is so much more than the yaris ever was.

i had always been a "toyota guy", but i have no reservations about hyundai anymore after spending some time in their vehicles.

toyota all but admits they cant sell the yaris on any tangible merits vs the accent or fiesta with their new ad campaign:

yaris. its a car

[sue08401]

They lost me by getting rid of the center instruments in the 2012 model.

One advantage I found with the center pod was I could mount my Garmin GPS right in front of me. I have a large very accurate speedo in front of me that also lets me know what the speed limit is. And as a musician I can switch over to the map when getting close to a new location. All the time still looking forward and not having to divert my eyes off the road. And it doesn't block my view out the windshield.

[Astroman]

No.

[jekqmb]

I dont know if we will ever like them cause the moderators wont make sections for the new 2012 owners even though the car is available now.

[Astroman]

There is a section for the 3rd gen Yaris already, and this thread is in that section. Also, moderators cannot make new categories, just moderate threads. I wish the admins would give us those privileges since their presence isn't common on here. We tried to get eTiMaGo super mod privileges but they wouldn't do it.

Back on topic, my answer is still no.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

I adore the 2012 restyle, especially in 3-door guise. Has a sharp Euro-look to it, very refreshing.

[barebonedvitz]

i like the lines... but i'm a bigger fan of the interior though... it makes me wanna get back into a yaris

[UTVitz]

Nope, look as I might I can't warm up to the funny pointy nose and stern looking headlights. The dash is alright-similar to a TC I suppose. Like the idea of one wiper, but it sure makes wind noise at freeway speed. Looks like it will be a Mazda2 for me next time even though I prefer Toyota mechanicals. Wish we could get the Toyota Aygo here-love the look of that cutie.

[MadMax]

Now that I've seen one in person, I am less likely to switch. Not that there was much of a chance of that anyway, but if something were to happen to Sprocket I don't think I'd consider the new Yaris. It lost a lot of its "character" if you ask me, and I mistook a Matrix for one a few weeks back.

Honestly, if I were in the market I am not sure what I'd get. I do like the subcompact hatch concept, and while there are some nice ones out there I still don't have a positive feel for any one in particular. We had a Fiesta S as a rental a few weeks back and it had a horrible transmission slip issue (and the other rental, which was also a Fiesta, suffered the same problem). I just can't warm up to the Accent, even after seeing a bazillion Hyundais when I was in Korea two months ago. The Mazda2 comes close and it pretty much looks the same as the old Yaris (which is a good thing), but it's built on the same DE platform as the Ford Fiesta.

It's pretty much assured I will keep my Yaris for a while, I don't put a lot of miles on it (20K in three years) and it's holding up pretty well. For an entry-level vehicle I wonder how it will fare at the 5-year point and beyond, but I take good care of it so hopefully it will make it to ten years or even longer.

Cheers! M2

[birdman]

I'm not liking the goofy looking dash with all the lost storage compartments and the heated or cooled cup holders. The outside is a bit over styled for my tastes. I don't see any other small hatch that is worth trading my cherry '08 for.

[Chuck G]

Finally got a chance to check one out.
The 2012 dash layout made me feel claustrophobic compared to the open layout of my sedan.
I really prefer the previous generation with the center cluster.

[UTVitz]

The 2012 just seems to be joining the "usual" look giving up the center cluster. Sure makes the magazine reviewers happy I've noticed. Exterior reminds me of the Tercel hatch from the late 80's early 90's. Now I wait for the Scion IQ to show up.

[jei]

i like it. especially in se trim. now i will say i wish the 3 door came in se trim.

[Fortmax]

I wish the rear brakes were disk .

[roxy1]

I wish the rear brakes were disk .

they are in the se, right?

[UTVitz]

The rear brakes are disk on the SE only.

[Fortmax]

The rear brakes are disk on the SE only.

Thats true, but the L & LE models were still both drum brakes.:redface:

[SailDesign]

In answer to the original question - No!

[daf62757]

I don't care for the new redesign. Th center speedometer was something I liked and made the Yaris so distinctive. Now, with the speedometer on the left side, its an average looking car.

But it doesn't really matter. My 09 has what I like. I will drive it until I can't fix it anymore or I can't get gas for it. I would even consider converting it into a natural gas hybrid if the cost for such conversion goes down.

[joe keeney]

The frist impression is the best, I like the classic look.

[Captain Slow]

I find the Gen2 has unique lines that will stand the test of time as a unique little design. The Gen3s on the other hand....look like a generic little econo-box.

I really wanted to like it, they've tried to make it "sportier", yet somehow it just comes off as generic. Not a fan of the interior either. I am totally happy with my purchase of a 2010, as I would not have purchased a 2012+.

If I was forced to purchase something brand new right now it'd either be a Turbocharged Chevrolet Sonic or a Mazda2. That said I think the Yaris Gen2 design will hold up much better than either of those. It's no Beetle, Minibus, or original Mustang....but still a rather unique and pleasant design. Always reminded me of a happy little puppy that wants to play.

[yaris_ninja]

when i saw the new 2012 Yaris design I was like omg they totally messed up such a great car. i have a 2009 Yaris and i love the curves of the car. i dont like how they are trying to put edges on a car thats meant to be have curves.

[SilverBack]

Other than the instrument clusters being moved to where they should be, I don't really care much about the overall new design.

[A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby]

In answer to the original question - No!

+1

[Chuck G]

I probably missed where this was discussed many times before, but do you guys actually like the new look?


I really like all of the new 2012 owners I'm seeing here!

[Captain Slow]

yeah, between 2012+ owners joining these forums and Gen2s getting older and more affordable as used cars we should see lots of new members in the next year or two.

[broody]

I prefere the new interior over the old one (although it's sad for the glove boxes), but I liked the old exterior better, not than much however. The new one looks a bit lower and less "minivan". Otherwise, the new yaris has so much better seats and driving position than before, and that's the major reason why I would get a 2012 over a 2011 model, and over the competition. The only cars with such a good driving position and generous leg room are the expensive mini and the Chevry Sonic. And the Sonic has a cheesy interior and still feels cheap despite the improvement. And it's probably the least roomy car of the segment. Exterior is fresh and modern though.

As for the fiesta, I don't like the look, both inside and outside, and it's more expensive in hatchback trim. The fit looks like a minivan (I can live with it since it's so roomy), but the noise level and comfort are the worst in the segment. The new Accent will soon be obsolete design wise, will break quicker than an yaris, resell for less, and the interior still feel cheap, not roomy, and visibility isn't great.

[Captain Slow]

one of the reasons I sprung for a 3dr instead of a 5dr was to avoid that whole mini-minivan look.

[roxy1]

The new Accent will soon be obsolete design wise, will break quicker than an yaris, resell for less, and the interior still feel cheap, not roomy, and visibility isn't great.

obsolete why? it doesnt look dramatically different from alot of 5 door hatches. as for the rest, id have to vehemently disagree having spent much time in both cars over the last 2 months.

the new accent is vastly better than the 12 yaris in almost every way, and most all reviewers and buyers do agree. it has enough interior volume to be classified as a compact by the epa..so quite a bit bigger than the yaris.

passenger volume: accent 90.1
yaris 84.4

cargo volume: accent 21.2
yaris 15.3

the accent with rear seats folded down has almost 50 sq feet of cargo volume.

as you can see, the numbers really arent very close. i can say sitting in both cars, its easy to tell the accent feels more like a compact car and the yaris a subcompact. saying the accent is not roomy in comparing it to the yaris would lead me to think a person hasnt really been in the new accent.

the interior plastics in the accent have a nice texture (unlike the bizarre and excessively cheap looking paper mache type plastic in the yaris) , the head unit looks modern versus the old square radio toyota shoved into a hole in the dash of the yaris), seats are bigger, and as a 6'+ driver i can verify the driving position is superior. the yaris steering wheel is built so close to the dash that to put ones seat where there is a proper reach to the wheel, ones legs are crammed in too tight.

the accent offers quite a bit more power and barely weighs more, offers better mileage whether auto or manual, has easily less road/engine noise and a far more refined feeling engine.

the one single thing i could say the yaris has over the accent is rear visibility, but not enough to worry about.

the whole reliability argument went out the window a good 5 years ago.

there is nothing wrong if one likes the looks of the yaris over other cars in the class or if someone just wants to own a toyota. however being objective as i can be (and i have been a toyota loyalist since getting my license 30 yrs ago), the yaris has fallen far behind the accent.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

The 2012 just seems to be joining the "usual" look giving up the center cluster. Sure makes the magazine reviewers happy I've noticed. Exterior reminds me of the Tercel hatch from the late 80's early 90's. Now I wait for the Scion IQ to show up.

That's another reason why I love it. The '12 channels a lot of that 80's hatchback goodness some of us missed out on, yet still yearn for...but with a slightly modern twist.

I'm counting the days until I take the keys to my new 2012 Yaris L 3-door w/5-speed. I'm leaning toward magnetic grey or lagoon blue...or blazing blue. :biggrin:

Then, some machined aluminum alloys to replace the stock steelies...:evil:

For me, the restyle makes the Yaris a contender for this customer who hardly even considered it before because it appeared too feminine.

I will not feel ashamed driving this little 3-door hatch! :thumbsup:

[broody]

obsolete why? it doesnt look dramatically different from alot of 5 door hatches. as for the rest, id have to vehemently disagree having spent much time in both cars over the last 2 months.

the new accent is vastly better than the 12 yaris in almost every way, and most all reviewers and buyers do agree. it has enough interior volume to be classified as a compact by the epa..so quite a bit bigger than the yaris.

passenger volume: accent 90.1
yaris 84.4

cargo volume: accent 21.2
yaris 15.3

the accent with rear seats folded down has almost 50 sq feet of cargo volume.

as you can see, the numbers really arent very close. i can say sitting in both cars, its easy to tell the accent feels more like a compact car and the yaris a subcompact. saying the accent is not roomy in comparing it to the yaris would lead me to think a person hasnt really been in the new accent.

the interior plastics in the accent have a nice texture (unlike the bizarre and excessively cheap looking paper mache type plastic in the yaris) , the head unit looks modern versus the old square radio toyota shoved into a hole in the dash of the yaris), seats are bigger, and as a 6'+ driver i can verify the driving position is superior. the yaris steering wheel is built so close to the dash that to put ones seat where there is a proper reach to the wheel, ones legs are crammed in too tight.

the accent offers quite a bit more power and barely weighs more, offers better mileage whether auto or manual, has easily less road/engine noise and a far more refined feeling engine.

the one single thing i could say the yaris has over the accent is rear visibility, but not enough to worry about.

the whole reliability argument went out the window a good 5 years ago.

there is nothing wrong if one likes the looks of the yaris over other cars in the class or if someone just wants to own a toyota. however being objective as i can be (and i have been a toyota loyalist since getting my license 30 yrs ago), the yaris has fallen far behind the accent.

Obsolete because the shapes aren't really well defined, it looks like nothign and everything... But the yaris will be obsolete too with the next generation. Usually, german cars have a better design, they still look fine even when the new gen is released.

And I work for a restaurant, we had 2-3 accent (01 to 03 or so) before and after we got two echo hatchback (Canadian market) and a bunch of yaris now (no 2012 yet), and the accent defininetely wear faster. accent < yaris < echo.

And I can certify you that the yaris 2012 has more useful room for it's occupiants than the accent. Compared to the 06-11, the front seats are able to go more rearward, accomodating taller drivers than on the old models and all the competition but the Sonic. And even with the seats at rear most, there is still enough room in the back for adults. I'm 6'3'' and I tried them all in the back and front. The yaris is now just as good as the fit (better up front actually). I agree that the steering would need to be telescopic for an optimal driving position.

As for the cargo volume, I don't beleive the figures they give (mostly for hatchback cars), it's probably up to the roof, european measure are more significant. And I never said that the yaris has a big boot. Anyway, my mom has a Honda fit, so anything else seems small and badly designed for me.

The plastic texture is a matter of personal taste. The new texture of the hard plastics in the yaris reminds me of the one found in the more expensive Prius 3 and the Sienna, and they made the effort to put some soft touch plastic here and there. The only downside I could see is that the new plastic looks shiny, while the old one was mate, but then again, it's a matter of taste. I don't remember the plastics in the accent so well but they feel at least as cheap as on yaris to me, and there isn't any soft plastic.

I would probably agree about the noise and engine feel if I drive the Accent (I'll try to drive one soon), I was a bit disapointed by the noise level of the yaris 2012 (pretty much the same as the previous one). But the engine of the yaris feels all right for it's purpose and weight, and for the gas mileage, I will wait to see more consumer reports.

And for me, the fairly good visibility and the super short turning radius in the base yaris (since they ruined the SE) is still a major argument, especially for delivery since I make u-turns everywhere and park tight all the time.

But really, FOR ME, the major argument of the yaris, other than the reliability, is the driving position. I can't stand the position and lack of legroom in the echo and first yaris, just as I can't stand it in most cars in the segment (fit, fiesta, etc.). The new yaris is just so much better than before, and a quite comfortable and smooth ride even if noise level isn't the best. And I wasn't really expecting improvments there since Toyota is usually getting worse and worse, but they were able to keep most good arguments of the older yaris and to fix a few bad ones, especially driving position and legroom.

[roxy1]

Obsolete because the shapes aren't really well defined, it looks like nothign and everything... But the yaris will be obsolete too with the next generation. Usually, german cars have a better design, they still look fine even when the new gen is released.

And I work for a restaurant, we had 2-3 accent (01 to 03 or so) before and after we got two echo hatchback (Canadian market) and a bunch of yaris now (no 2012 yet), and the accent defininetely wear faster. accent < yaris < echo.

And I can certify you that the yaris 2012 has more useful room for it's occupiants than the accent.

As for the cargo volume, I don't beleive the figures they give .

you are in total denial. talking about accents from 10 years ago is meaningless. the 12 accent is worlds away from those cars.

for anyone who has been in both cars, the difference in interior room and interior quality is obvious in favor of the accent.

as a manual transmission only driver, i was stunned that toyota did nothing to the awful long rubbery shifter in the previous yaris. it is one of the reasons i found my 07 yaris less fun than a stick should be. id agree with others who describe it as being akin to moving a golf club through cold tar.

bottom line. one car feels like an effort from a company that couldnt make too many upgrades to their cheapest car for a variety of reasons, the value of the yen being a major one of them. the other car feels like it competes more with the compacts even though its pricing means people will cross shop it with subcompacts. (and its interior isnt as nice as most compacts).

ive said it before. the yaris has its attributes. it will get better than advertised mileage and that engine while old and a bit crude by todays standards, will be reliable.

utility. i need as much as i can get but i also need really good mileage. the cargo numbers are real. the accent even has more cargo space than the matrix behind the rear seats, and that closely translates when the seats are folded down. i owned a matrix, and i liked that the accent feels very similar in interior room.

[broody]

Aside from the reliability, I'm talking about the 2012 accent...
And for reliability, the 06-11 accent didn't prove to be as reliable as the 06-11 yaris if you ask me.

For me the difference in interior room is obvious in favor to the yaris.
The accent still has nothing to do with the compact cars market, and it's fine since it's not intended to.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

you are in total denial. talking about accents from 10 years ago is meaningless. the 12 accent is worlds away from those cars.

for anyone who has been in both cars, the difference in interior room and interior quality is obvious in favor of the accent.

bottom line. one car feels like an effort from a company that couldnt make too many upgrades to their cheapest car for a variety of reasons, the value of the yen being a major one of them. the other car feels like it competes more with the compacts even though its pricing means people will cross shop it with subcompacts.

I agree with both of you, but for different reasons.

I think the Accent will be a better car, especially where MPGs (highway) are counted. I know that Accent will sell in crazy numbers, and work tirelessly for thousands of U.S. drivers. However, subjective as it is...I cannot get into the Accent's styling, and on a more personal note, I can't trust Hyundais yet.

Namely, the depreciation curve is very harsh. If/when I go to sell my car (Yaris/Accent/Fiesta/etc.), I want to recoup as much of my money as possible. I cannot do that with the Accent. Plus, I am not feeling the "styling" of that car. The Yaris is more clean and restrained. Call it vanilla, call it what you want.

But I like it. Especially the triangular tail lamps and the rake of the rear hatch and rear sideglass/B-pillar profile on the 3-door. Looks purposeful, yet still elegant. Again, subjective as all hell, but that's what makes us human, and why we all don't just drive minivans and be done with it.

Finally, I'll admit I'm kind of a badge snob. Toyota earned their pedigree decades ago, now they feast on it (not as much these days now that they have been slacking). Hyundai still has a few thousand calories to burn, a few more sportscars to build before I'll give them a shot. But for now, in my biased eyes, Toyota is the "safe" choice. If I flew by the seat of my pants, I'd get a Chevy (Daewoo) Sonic with the turbo and 6-speed and just call it a day. But we all know those won't last as long as the Yaris...or the Accent. But god, what fun that Sonic must be to drive before it falls apart the day the warranty expires! :bellyroll:

Having sat in (not driven!) the new Accent, I'd rather keep my Geo. No, that wasn't a joke. I could not imagine willingly paying thousands for that car. I'd rather have no payment and drive the Metro into the ground.

The Yaris? That little car excites the hell out of me. I love the way it looks (inside and out), the way it drives, and it's optimistic little personality. It's little mono-wiper thing. It's little uncluttered 3-spoke steering wheel. I don't know why, but perhaps I was just the customer (early 30s, first new car, male, soon-to-be-professional) Akio Toyoda had this restyle done for.

You just know Toyota is losing money on each one they sell in the U.S.

[why?]

I just don't get buying a new car when i just bought one a few years ago. My yaris will be my econo box until i die. When I buy another car it will be a sports car, not a replacement econo box. If I ever total my yaris, I would replace it with a used yaris of the same vintage.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

I just don't get buying a new car when i just bought one a few years ago. My yaris will be my econo box until i die. When I buy another car it will be a sports car, not a replacement econo box. If I ever total my yaris, I would replace it with a used yaris of the same vintage.

Can't fault you for that.

This will be my first new car.

[A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby]

I just don't get buying a new car when i just bought one a few years ago. My yaris will be my econo box until i die. When I buy another car it will be a sports car, not a replacement econo box. If I ever total my yaris, I would replace it with a used yaris of the same vintage.

this is me.

half of my peers have the latest BMW or Mercedes or whatever 50,000+ car.



But what I roll with is: a beat to hell but mechanically perfect 1999 4runner limited, for woods adventures, and the micromobile Yaris. If my vehicles present an image to people and I think they judge me by it fine, if they have brains they know why I roll with these two vehicles because they are essentially flawless -for what I need from them-.

I challenge anyone to find a car they like and 100% do not care what others think...that is gonna be tough for those people
who think what you wear, or how your hair style is doing, or what you drive dictates who you are and your societal status

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

this is me.

half of my peers have the latest BMW or Mercedes or whatever 50,000+ car.

I can afford any new car on the market (except ones above 100,000)

But what I roll with is: a beat to hell but mechanically perfect 1999 4runner limited, for woods adventures, and the micromobile Yaris. If my vehicles present an image to people and I think they judge me by it fine, if they have brains they know why I roll with these two vehicles because they are essentially flawless -for what I need from them-.

I challenge anyone to find a car they like and 100% do not care what others think...that is gonna be tough for those people
who think what you wear, or how your hair style is doing, or what you drive dictates who you are and your societal status

The 2012 Subaru BRZ is rumored to be only $25k. Just saying...you only live once. It's awesome having no car payment, but as Ned Flanders once said: "Sometimes, you just have to spoil yourself!" :evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcMw4zl1r0k

[mr9865]

I agree with both of you, but for different reasons.

I think the Accent will be a better car, especially where MPGs (highway) are counted. I know that Accent will sell in crazy numbers, and work tirelessly for thousands of U.S. drivers. However, subjective as it is...I cannot get into the Accent's styling, and on a more personal note, I can't trust Hyundais yet.

Namely, the depreciation curve is very harsh. If/when I go to sell my car (Yaris/Accent/Fiesta/etc.), I want to recoup as much of my money as possible. I cannot do that with the Accent. Plus, I am not feeling the "styling" of that car. The Yaris is more clean and restrained. Call it vanilla, call it what you want.

But I like it. Especially the triangular tail lamps and the rake of the rear hatch and rear sideglass/B-pillar profile on the 3-door. Looks purposeful, yet still elegant. Again, subjective as all hell, but that's what makes us human, and why we all don't just drive minivans and be done with it.

Finally, I'll admit I'm kind of a badge snob. Toyota earned their pedigree decades ago, now they feast on it (not as much these days now that they have been slacking). Hyundai still has a few thousand calories to burn, a few more sportscars to build before I'll give them a shot. But for now, in my biased eyes, Toyota is the "safe" choice. If I flew by the seat of my pants, I'd get a Chevy (Daewoo) Sonic with the turbo and 6-speed and just call it a day. But we all know those won't last as long as the Yaris...or the Accent. But god, what fun that Sonic must be to drive before it falls apart the day the warranty expires! :bellyroll:

Having sat in (not driven!) the new Accent, I'd rather keep my Geo. No, that wasn't a joke. I could not imagine willingly paying thousands for that car. I'd rather have no payment and drive the Metro into the ground.

The Yaris? That little car excites the hell out of me. I love the way it looks (inside and out), the way it drives, and it's optimistic little personality. It's little mono-wiper thing. It's little uncluttered 3-spoke steering wheel. I don't know why, but perhaps I was just the customer (early 30s, first new car, male, soon-to-be-professional) Akio Toyoda had this restyle done for.

You just know Toyota is losing money on each one they sell in the U.S.


Im 25 and it fits me exactly too.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Im 25 and it fits me exactly too.

Just remember, when you are driving that sweet little car, that all the guys in Accents and Picantos...they will have some very steep depreciation to answer for when they sell. Still not an issue with Toyota and Honda. You chose wisely, friend. :thumbup:

They? Well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubw5N8iVDHI

:laughabove:

I can't wait to be in your shoes, rolling in my new Toyota. It's gonna be so cash. :smoking:

I'm going to sleep in that car for a week, just inhaling the sweet carcinogenic "new car smell".

[junorico24]

Of course, cars will get better than the previous.The accent is a nice car.But I just can't go through the head ache of financing another car, when I have good, not great but a good yaris.That's paid off.The only thing about these new cars is they are apparently more fun to drive.Well, the yaris with suspension upgrades and lowered is no slouch either.Am I right?

[broody]

Driving pleasure in econoboxes is usually improved by reducing comfort (Honda fit vs old civic hatchback, Echo vs tercel for example, the older ones were more comfy yet less fun to drive) so it's a matter of taste more than anything, if you want both comfort and pleasure, you must pay more and get something like a Golf.

Personnally, I like sport cars, but Quebec roads are in terrible conditions, so I prefere to have a soft-ish suspension, and road noise is important too for me (sadly not improved in the yaris 2012).

I have high expectations about the next generation Corolla, if they improve it the way they improved the rest of their recent cars (prius 3, yaris 3, etc.) it should be the best car in the world.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Driving pleasure in econoboxes is usually improved by reducing comfort (Honda fit vs old civic hatchback, Echo vs tercel for example, the older ones were more comfy yet less fun to drive) so it's a matter of taste more than anything, if you want both comfort and pleasure, you must pay more and get something like a Golf.

Personnally, I like sport cars, but Quebec roads are in terrible conditions, so I prefere to have a soft-ish suspension, and road noise is important too for me (sadly not improved in the yaris 2012).

I have high expectations about the next generation Corolla, if they improve it the way they improved the rest of their recent cars (prius 3, yaris 3, etc.) it should be the best car in the world.

Toyota knows how their bread is buttered. Trust that the next Corolla will bring some fight to the playground when it's finally redesigned.

As it stands, it's an also-ran compared to most of the competition.

[Strider199]

Interesting read to say the least,

for the last 30 years I've been driving a VW Rabbit, Golf or Jetta diesel. This ended Nov 19 2011 after my Golf TDi and I hit a deer at 90km/hr. I went to the VW stealership and their base price was $31,000. I left thinking that was way too much to pay for a mode of transportation to work and back.

As I was driving my wife's mini-van home I was thinking about other options. All of a sudden it hit me, my Dad (who is kind of hard on his vehicles) bought a Yaris in 2006 and the car still has it's original pads and shoes! He has not had any bad experiences in that time frame so (light bulb came on), I went to the Toyota dealer and ordered my 2012 Yaris.

Takes a bit to get used to the clutch but I like her. Nice economy car, gets me from point A to point B and back without me cursing at the pump.

[broody]

Toyota knows how their bread is buttered. Trust that the next Corolla will bring some fight to the playground when it's finally redesigned.

As it stands, it's an also-ran compared to most of the competition.

What's disapointing about the Corolla in my opinion, it's not that much that it's bland (they have always been), but that they never fixed some major issues. The front seats never had really enough leg room for tall people, and in addition the 09+ seats are less comfortable than the 03-08 seats in my opinion. But they improved the leg room in the prius 3 and yaris 3, so I except the same in the Corolla mk11.. And when I read that the steering was finally electro-hydrolic in the 2009 version, I was expecting a yaris feel, but it's not even close, it's the same crap as before. Otherwise, it's still a great car for it's price (12 500$ before taxes on 2011 base models in Canada), no fancy equipement or styling, but I couldn't care less. I tried one the same day I tried the yaris 2012 actually, and the steering was really a deal breaker, it's too bad.

For me, city car = yaris, more travels/highway = corolla. However, since the new yaris has a much better driving position than before, the yaris is now able to go out of town too (even it it's still somewhat noisy).

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

What's disapointing about the Corolla in my opinion, it's not that much that it's bland (they have always been), but that they never fixed some major issues. The front seats never had really enough leg room for tall people, and in addition the 09+ seats are less comfortable than the 03-08 seats in my opinion. But they improved the leg room in the prius 3 and yaris 3, so I except the same in the Corolla mk11.. And when I read that the steering was finally electro-hydrolic in the 2009 version, I was expecting a yaris feel, but it's not even close, it's the same crap as before. Otherwise, it's still a great car for it's price (12 500$ before taxes on 2011 base models in Canada), no fancy equipement or styling, but I couldn't care less. I tried one the same day I tried the yaris 2012 actually, and the steering was really a deal breaker, it's too bad.

For me, city car = yaris, more travels/highway = corolla. However, since the new yaris has a much better driving position than before, the yaris is now able to go out of town too (even it it's still somewhat noisy).

Lest you forget dear friend, the Corolla wasn't always so vanilla. In the 70's, it came as a sporty, RWD coupe with decent and affordable performance.

It wasn't 'till they made it wrong wheel drive (FWD) that the styling and sportiness were slowly leeched out of it like an appliance.

Oh, if only I could go back in time and buy some of these cars new...

[broody]

I'm born in 1990, so I don't know cars from the 70's.

[daf62757]

I just don't get buying a new car when i just bought one a few years ago. My yaris will be my econo box until i die. When I buy another car it will be a sports car, not a replacement econo box. If I ever total my yaris, I would replace it with a used yaris of the same vintage.

Brilliant! :thumbup:

[jpmck03]

Finally saw one in the wild... 3-door L in Classic Silver Metallic.

Initially looking at pics online, I thought that it was good looking and the new style was growing on me slowly.

Now that I've seen it in real life, wow, not that good looking. Even my wife said that it didn't look right and she's not really into cars at all.

[avlisk]

I like the new dash. (wish it had a tach). But I hate the new front end. It's very bland and ugly to my eye. I liked the 2011 front end, because it was different and really fit the size and oddness of the Yaris. My opinion of the Corolla and Camry is the same: bland and ugly at the same time. But, I'd still buy one if the inside is nice, and if it's comfortable, because that's where I spend my time with a car. It's why I drive a Kia Rio and not a Versa. But I don't like the new Rio, and the new Versa hatch is still a year away and it's time for a new car after 10 years with my Cinco.

[CPALK719]

i like the new styling, thats the reason i finally bought one. plus the fact that the gauge cluster is where it is supposed to be. this is the same argument i have with the evo 9 owners, they dont like the front end and what not of the evo 8.

everyone has to remember one thing though, we all still drive the same car, regardless of what generation or front fascia changes there are.

[avlisk]

My re-evalutation of re-design.
Somewhere on the Yaris World last week, I said I hated the new 2012 exterior, especially the front end. After a week of Yaris-hunting on line and seeing some in person, my position has softened, and I think the new front end is OK after all. I still like the 2011 better, but the 2012 is growing on me. Sorry for first impressions being so wrong. Now, let's get a tach into the 3 door LE automatic, Toyota, and I'll buy one tomorrow.

[12 yaris]

Yes,
Drove a 2010 w/ 40k and it wasn't for me,drove 2012 and bought it.
It's more refind,quieter,smoother.
My trade was a 93 Paseo w/200 k.
The color is blue lagoon mica,3 dr LE,I tinted the windows,installed
in-channel visors,and 15"sport ed cd's. The stock wheels and caps are
for sale. I will also install SE front and rear bumper covers with fogs,
or find a good aftermarket replacements.
This will be the last new car I'll ever own. I've had around 400 cars in my life
a 25 model t, a 59 fiat 500,a 72 gremlin,78 subaru brat,7 vw bugs,myers manx
dune buggy,a 53 buick,a 54 chevy,a 67 chevy short wheel base van,a 01 mb
commpressor conv.,a 86 cabriolet,
and on, and on.

[birdman]

When I first saw the '07 LB I wanted one. The new one has some improvements like more room and quietness but the new interior and exterior styling doesn't make me want one. Also the loss of the dash storage compartments and clever drink cooling and heating cup holders is a big loss. I also prefer the unique Prius like center Dash configuration that's easier to use than the one in the Mini. Sure the plastics of my car look cheaper but the dash wasn't cheap to design like some think. The new dash is unimaginative and boring. That's just my take on it. No doubt some will like these better.

[hachi-roku_fan]

I wish they made a 3 dr SE so I could get disk brakes

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Yes,
Drove a 2010 w/ 40k and it wasn't for me,drove 2012 and bought it.
It's more refind,quieter,smoother.
My trade was a 93 Paseo w/200 k.
The color is blue lagoon mica,3 dr LE,I tinted the windows,installed
in-channel visors,and 15"sport ed cd's. The stock wheels and caps are
for sale. I will also install SE front and rear bumper covers with fogs,
or find a good aftermarket replacements.
This will be the last new car I'll ever own. I've had around 400 cars in my life
a 25 model t, a 59 fiat 500,a 72 gremlin,78 subaru brat,7 vw bugs,myers manx
dune buggy,a 53 buick,a 54 chevy,a 67 chevy short wheel base van,a 01 mb
commpressor conv.,a 86 cabriolet,
and on, and on.

I am jealous. The Paseo was/is still a very good-looking little coupe. To hell with what anyone says to me. It looks especially good with the sunroof and manual transmission. Just a clean, simple design. Great taste, man. :cool:

Those other cars are also awesome.

When I first saw the '07 LB I wanted one. The new one has some improvements like more room and quietness but the new interior and exterior styling doesn't make me want one. Also the loss of the dash storage compartments and clever drink cooling and heating cup holders is a big loss. I also prefer the unique Prius like center Dash configuration that's easier to use than the one in the Mini. Sure the plastics of my car look cheaper but the dash wasn't cheap to design like some think. The new dash is unimaginative and boring. That's just my take on it. No doubt some will like these better.

I adore everything about the new design. :evil:

I wanted that indestructible, proven, and economical drivetrain in a new, stylish hatchback with a sportier interior...and I got it! Thank you, Toyota! :wub:

I wish they made a 3 dr SE so I could get disk brakes

This would have been nice, also. But so far, the rear drums haven't given me any issues. Even while in the rain.

[A1an]

I dig the new styling but I miss the quirkiness that was present in the prior Yaris and the old Echo. Interior is a HUGE improvement though. The new Yaris kind of reminds me of the direction Subaru is taking...departing from the unique and joining the masses with more crowd appealing style.

Not sure why people get their panties in a bunch over drum brakes. Yes they are an old technology and they don't look as cool but function wise they do very well in rear brake applications. I find they are also typically much cheaper to fix...for example a wheel cylinder for a drum brake is typically around $10 whereas a replacement caliper is usually more than quadruple that.

[J_Lynn]

I don't like it at all .... I'm so glad I got my 2010 when I did. I loved my 07, love my 2010 even more - and will not be buying another one after this :/

[kimona]

My neighbour has a new 5 door now, so I see it everyday. Aside from technical improvements, I think it's void of any personality and is an ugly car from every possible angle.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

My neighbour has a new 5 door now, so I see it everyday. Aside from technical improvements, I think it's void of any personality and is an ugly car from every possible angle.

:laugh:

I would suppose that's why the Mods didn't put the new '12 up on the site banner, eh?

[Gearhd79]

I just sat in the new 12 Yaris and really like the new dash and seating position..there is just a bit more leg room for me (deal breaker on old one) and I like the new dark and light thing with the seats. I had a Scion XB in the past and love the eonomy of a small car (traded for my not small FJ cruiser). I have a miata for fun but now thinking of selling to get the new yaris. I just dont understand the reasoning of not having an SE 5spd 3 door. I will buy a basic 5spd 3 door and mod the bat snot out of it i guess

[12 yaris]

Go for it.

[Gearhd79]

I should, I just need to clear out the stable a bit first (already have three vehicles). Its good to see a local owner in the room ..lol (Camp Hill here)

[12 yaris]

What color did you choose?

[Gearhd79]

for the Yaris ,not sure yet. I am leaning toward the gun metal gray color 3 door 5spd

[12 yaris]

Good color,I chose something a little different.
Lagoon Blue(Love it).

[Gearhd79]

well that might be the color I choose. I only just looked seriously at the car yesterday. My FJ is silver so i might not want another silver/gray.

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

for the Yaris ,not sure yet. I am leaning toward the gun metal gray color 3 door 5spd

Doooooo eeeeetttttttttt!!!! :thumbsup:

It's a fantastic value, and if taken care of...your grandchildren will still be driving it. :laugh:

[12 yaris]

It's a GREAT color.
Hope you like this forum,it's very informative.Everyone is here to help
you with anything you need or want.
Not many '12 owners around here yet,give it time.:thumbsup:

[Gearhd79]

well to give a little bit of Gearhd's Toyota history, Iv'e had an 86 pickup 4x4, 97 Tercel, 02 Tacoma 4x4, 06 Scion xb, and currently an FJ Cruiser 4x4. One thing I can say with confidence is the value of all Toyotas. They have proven to me time and time again how much better over all they are compared to other makes and I have owned many other vehicles in the past.

Thanks:biggrin:

[mirapatec]

I admit that i actually appreciate the restyle. Kinda zombie-kiler sexy.

[cparker]

There's no Yaris with perfect styling. The original Yaris face looks like a brat with a cold. The 2012 restyle has a pointy nose and pouty lower lip below the upper grill. The 2015 restyle has a hideous huge Halloween monster mouth . I liked the looks of my 96 Toyota Tercel the best, nice and simple. I love my 2014 Yaris, but laugh whenever I look at it's funny face.

[ern-diz]

There's no Yaris with perfect styling. The original Yaris face looks like a brat with a cold. The 2012 restyle has a pointy nose and pouty lower lip below the upper grill. The 2015 restyle has a hideous huge Halloween monster mouth . I liked the looks of my 96 Toyota Tercel the best, nice and simple. I love my 2014 Yaris, but laugh whenever I look at it's funny face.

You are on a zombie thread war path right now, and I'm not even mad about it. :biggrin:

[cparker]

:drinking:Don't anyone take my styling comments seriously. I have a hell of an imagination. Just having fun.

[ern-diz]

:drinking:Don't anyone take my styling comments seriously. I have a hell of an imagination. Just having fun.

As you should :thumbsup:

Like I said, I for one am not upset about seeing all these old posts revived. I wouldn't hold my breath for responses from OP's, but it might spark conversation with others.

[tarkus]

The 2015 restyle has a hideous huge Halloween monster mouth.
True. Or an angry deep sea fish. I don't know what the designers thought they were doing.



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[Captain Yaris]

I always thought the front end looked like this:

[NYC-SE]

IMHO the 2012-2014 Yaris is the best looking one. Wasn't overly enamored with the 2nd gen design and hate the 2015+ 3rd gen refresh.

[mrpj]

"IMHO the 2012-2014 Yaris is the best looking one."

I agree. I did own a Mk 2 and quite liked the exterior styling. I loved the centre instrument cluster.
I now have the Mk 3, pre "faclift" and would not buy the latest incarnation because of the (my opinion) grotesque front. It looks like a damn basking shark on the prowl!

[Kalispel]

I always thought the front end looked like this:

The 2015/2016 refresh reminds me more of the original Battlestar Galactica Cylon helmet:

http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Battle_Star_Galactica_1978_Cylon_Helmet_1-353x500.jpg

[Captain Yaris]

Hahaha! Yeah that looks like it too. Personally, I like the fascia. I just wish they painted the whole lower lip so it didn't look like the car has a Fu Man Chu mustache.

[ern-diz]

MF Doom Yaris