Be honest, if you could go back in time and do it again.....

[bentjazz]

Greetings Yaris Worlders.....

Be honest, if you could go back in time and do it again, would you buy the Yaris again or would you opt to buy another car, say the Honda Fit? When I drove the Fit (after I bought the Yaris), I have to admit I had buyer's remorse. If I could do it again, I'd probably go with the Fit.....

[catliektheif]

no

[The Limo]

No
Roy

[SilverBack]

Had a Versa as a rental when I test-drove both the Yaris and Fit. Out of the three, the Yaris was a clear win.

[eTiMaGo]

yes, though my modding would be more go, less show :D

[Klink10]

No. Never was a fan of the Fit's appearance and would still be spending countless dollars trying to keep up with everybody.

[JumpmanYaris]

Had a Versa as a rental when I test-drove both the Yaris and Fit. Out of the three, the Yaris was a clear win.

This.

Had one in PR as rental and sucked in many ways from overdrive to handling

[JumpmanYaris]

So I'd keep mah yaris and do it again just a change in tranny that is all

[Flipper_1938]

I'd go buy another 2001 Echo. Overall, I liked it better than my Yaris.

[TickleTimeTim]

id had got a mazda 3, since i got screwed anyways (16k on a used 07 base model (bought in 08) with 9k miles and warrant)

[TickleTimeTim]

the hatch of course

[Hamster]

Nope. I don't have a problem with the Fit. When it comes to subcompacts, the majority I see on the road are Fits anyway (though this is because I live in Central Ohio, which leans heavily towards Honda in general. This is due to the influence of the Honda plants in this general area of the state). Anyway, I didn't go with the Fit because it wasn't available without power windows and power locks. I don't care about power windows or power locks, and I don't want to pay for it. Luckily, the Yaris is available with the fancy electronics. And another thing, changing the oil in the Yaris is a piece of cake. The Fit, not so much.

[TwoBearWisconsin]

Maybe.

In hindsight I think the Yaris is just a little too small for my needs, and my significant other has never felt comfortable in it. Maybe a sedan would have worked better.

As much as I like my Yaris, I'm already looking to replace it next year. Right now the 2012 Accent is a top contender, but we'll see what else is available by then.

[bronsin]

I'd go buy another 2001 Echo. Overall, I liked it better than my Yaris.


My sentiments also.

But the Yaris is the best out there today.

[Black_griffin6]

You know...at first I didn't like the Yaris, I wished that we had got a Fit instead. To me, the Fit was a better car all around and it probably still is.

But once I started to drive the Yaris I got attached to it, it's like the Yaris has personality to it, it has character. The Fit is probably the better car, but I don't see myself becoming as attached to it as my Yaris. The Yaris makes me feel happy whenever I drive it, that's a quality not many cars have...but to me it's what makes the Yaris special.

Plus, the Yaris is more rare in my area, so it's like i'm driving a unique car.

[MUSKOKA800]

The Fit at my local dealership cost the same as the mid level Civic and got worse highway mileage according to the gov. rating. My Yaris sedan was thousands less even with all the options and aero package.

[kimona]

Yes, I would still get the Yaris hatch. Never liked anything about the Fit then and still don't. It continues to look like a shrunken minivan... and an ugly one at that!

[SilverBack]

This.

Had one in PR as rental and sucked in many ways from overdrive to handling

I never got around to testing the limits on my rental, but I can tell you the Yaris is just more tall-friendly. As for the other two cars, ..well:

http://i.saucesome.net/BbL.jpg

[Gogogordy]

The closest I could find between the Fit and my Yaris was some $4200 difference.

Prefer the Yaris, and the price.

Not a Honda fan anyway, (4 wheels or 2)

[TOUGEghost]

Nope, wouldn't change a thing.

[jekqmb]

I would have bought a GD Honda Fit! But I love my Yaris cause its more unique when its comes to modding them here in the states! But I have always owned more then 1 car at a time. I have a very fast other car, so the Yaris is just something to DD and have fun with!

[solarVitz]

No for the Fit and a big Yes for the Yaris.

I'm buying 2 -

08 2door Liftback S in Blazing Blue

09 5door Liftback in Polar White

[BluYrs]

Mine hasn't had any problems during the 4+ years I've owned it and it's performed very well in every situation so I never get buyer's remorse.

[Yaristeve]

No way! I'd wanted a Yaris since the first year (2007) since the first time I saw Toyota's cute little piggy bank advertising. I didn't even test drive one before buying mine. Plus, I wanted a two-door.

Like Black Griffin, driving my Yaris puts a smile on my face every time and even just looking at it from ten feet away makes me smile!

[Blue Y job]

I looked at the Toyota website at the time (2007), with that slow and smooth moving camera interior and exterior, and I liked what I saw. Plus the price was right. At the time, they were a little over 10 grand, not hard to do, plus it's a Toyota. The mods I've done have made it special to me. The fit has never appealed to me, even though it has it's quality's.

[jambo101]

Do it again? think i would have gone with the Corolla for the extra size..

[ilikerice]

Would have went with a 5dr instead. I was gonna pull the trigger, just pulled to soon cuz a week later I found one just like mine as a 5dr.. dammits..

I like the fit, esp the one that autocrosses in jacksonville, he is good too. He has been keeping track of my times for a while now and been dying to run against me. This past weekend we finally got a chance to see which was faster. It was close too. I like having a rival now. It makes owning the yaris that much more fun. gives me something to work towards.

[tk1971]

No buyer's remorse here. When I was younger, I'd always suffer from the "grass is greener" syndrome. I now do my homework, make my decision and happily live with it because I now realize that if/when I change my mind, I can easily make that happen.

I went from this:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/tk1971/DSC_7054.jpg

To my wife's Forester (seen in the background of the EVO pic), to my Yaris. I chose the Yaris specifically to replace my turbo cars for my daily commute. I don't need to burn as much gas on a 4 cylinder commuting as in my Expedition. Just doesn't make sense.

I'm perfectly happy with my Yaris, but I still get to occasionally commute with this:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/tk1971/DSC_9056.jpg

and this:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb282/tk1971/DSC_0918.jpg

[brg88tx]

nope, i like the look of my little sedan much more than the little mini van looking honda fit. plus the yaris is much cheaper.

[rudi2]

having a job were i am around cars all day every day and often changing my car 2-3 times a year due to borrrrrrrdom or tired of lifting the bonnet

I MUST SHOUT THE YARIS GIVEN THE CHANCE I WOULD REPEAT THE PROCESS

the little hatch which i believe is big on charecter, enough space for me ( not the smallest at 6.1 with the need for a drive through now and then ) and 2 boys 10 and 14
we all love it.

[paperboy]

The Fit has the better engine, the Yaris is roomier inside

The reason I went with the Yaris though was the price.

I got a 2007 5 door hatch with 95.000kms on it for $6,300 CDN

The closest to a comparable Fit I could find was $11,000 CDN

The Fit is just too expensive.

[romram]

i'll still buy a 2 door yaris. Fit's roof is too high,front angle view too wide with side post 'coz of side mirror. well fit's engine is too noisy inside the car ( i got a honda city 1.3L auto, it's not that noisy).

[UTVitz]

I've looked at everything else in it's class and some bigger cars like the corolla since I picked up my yaris in '08 and still nothing else appeals more. The mazda2 is close, but its freeway noise is more, mechanicals are questionable, and the arch in the front fender and smiley face grill have not grown on me yet. Fiesta-horribly low tech engine from the 90's-timing belt, really. Just check their forum-it is made in Mexico after all. Fiat 500-made in mexico-enough said. Fit, too much of a little wagon to me-yes, I too see the small minivan look. I could not have lived with the seat material everything sticks too. But the breaker was the very firm ride of the Fit-can't deal with it. 2012 yaris-well, it has enough quirks that it's growing on me

[Kiteless]

One can look back and say no, but for me the Yaris was exactly what I needed and 5+ years later my little car is still a fun, pointy (steering) little slow car. Knowing what I know now would I have bought the Yaris, maybe not, but I was not in a position to get anything bigger/faster/sportier. I could barely afford new. I lucked out and got a base package, 5-speed, power-nothing. It has tires and a steering wheels and A/C.

Now that I am a little older, and making more money, I long for a sporty car, even though I average at LEAST 35MPG with my Yaris. The care has been ultra good to me and I am glad I got it. But next year some time I am hoping to replace it with something low, and rear wheel drive like the Scion FR-S.

Bottom line, I don't regret buying the Yaris. It was a perfect fit for me. (no pun intended). :thumbup:

- Jason

[zfarsh]

i do have buyers remorse, but not about choosing a Yaris sedan, but rather the package. I shouldnt have cheaped out and should have gotten a higher level package that came with the real cruise control, not the fugly one they put on it themselves, and nice fog lights too!!!! I love my Yaris Sedan Pacific Blue and would not have gone for a fit that is hatchback.

[Bluevitz-rs]

So I'd keep mah yaris and do it again just a change in tranny that is all

That's what my only complaint was about the Echo, until I put the 6 speed in :biggrin:.

[broody]

I don't have a yaris but I recommended to my mom to buy a fit (which she did) over a yaris 1.5 year ago, and since then I drove both cars a lot (we have a fleet of Yaris at my delivery place), and I would now recommend the Yaris over the fit, although they both have defaults and the fit my mom got was still a good deal. The fit had a 2500$ reduction (brand new 2009, bought in 2010) and with the different prices and packages in Canada, it was cheaper than a 5 door Yaris 2010 (there were no more 2009) with AC.

The fit feels a bit more sporty at first, but it the end, it's annoying. The suspension is too stiff to be really comfortable but the car still takes some roll in the curves, the steering is a bit sharper, but the turning radius is much bigger (about 3 feets maybe, but I drove both mostly in town and you feel the difference a lot when doing u turns and such for delivery), and it's a bit over assisted, at highway speeds the fit steering is over reactive and you have to be careful. And the fit MT has really close gears, it's cool for spirited driving or around town, but on the highway the engine noise is annoying and the MPG sucks.

So, the yaris with it's longer gearbox is a bit less quick around town but the vvti still makes a good job, and it's a bit more quiet on the freeway (and you get better mpg), the electric steering on the hatchback is really nice. On the downside, the gearbox is more slushy and the cargo room is obviously much smaller. And despite it's minivan look, the fit is the same height as the yaris hatchback and you sit a bit lower.

Otherwise, road noise (not engine noise) and seat comfort seem to be about the same but I haven't really driven the yaris on the highway for extended periods since we only drive around town for work. Actually I dislike the seats in both cars (I'm tall and there not enough leg room), but the ones in the yaris seem to be a bit better for a long drive. Also, they both have a crappy drive by wire system, when I take the remaning echo hatchback at work (with a throttle cable and no power steering), it's a blast to drive compared to the yaris, but it's noisy and less comfy. But in the end, the yaris isn't great anywhere, but not bad anywhere either (except for cargo room), while the fit's qualities (more fun to drive) are also it's biggest defaults, it's less homogen.

I'm waiting the yaris 3 with impatience, hopefully we will replace some of the older yaris at work for one (which also means that they will ditch the echo hatchback 2005, sadly).
Otherwise, I never drove a Yaris sedan, it seems to be fine but I believe that it's a bit less responsive than the hatchback, then I would simply get a Corolla instead (they are now only 600$ extra in Canada).

But the seats are really important to me, and it's personnal taste. I have driven 25 000 miles in my ex Geo Metro 1.0 (mixed city and highway) in a year and a half, with some trips, and I never had any back pain. After 1.5 hour in the fit, I start to have some pain.

I never got around to testing the limits on my rental, but I can tell you the Yaris is just more tall-friendly. As for the other two cars, ..well:

http://i.saucesome.net/BbL.jpg

I'm 6 feet 3 and they all miss leg room to be comfortable, which is a non sense in the fit and the versa since there is still so much leg room in the back. For front room, I don't see any clear winner or loser in the category. The best small car is by far the mini (you can slide the seats rearward untill they touch the rear seats), but it's 10k$ more...
I wish we had some european sub compacts (renault clio, VW polo and such), I'm pretty sure they have more leg room.

Leg room is the only reason why I bought my geo metro and then my Civic '99 instead of a Tercel/echo/yaris/corolla. The Prius 3 finally has significantly more leg room than the previous one, I hope that the next gen Corolla and Yaris will be the same way. Otherwise, tall people need to get a Camry to be comfortable (which my father did 13 yars ago, since the corolla wasn't big enough).

That's what my only complaint was about the Echo, until I put the 6 speed in :biggrin:.

Do I really see a Civic shuttle 84-87 in your avatar? It's your? I had one (87 4wd) for a while, I sold it because it was rubbish and not so reliable, but it's a blast in a snow storm (I've done some ice lapping too) and the interior room is better than in the fit despite the lack of magic seats and the awd system. I measured both cars in every ways and the Civic was better everywhere (by almost a foot from the dash to the trunk lid) but in height (exact same), I measured so I can bring my motorcycle home (2x700km drive), the bike fitted in the car simply with the front passenger seat removed. I wonder how Honda made so many great civic (from the 4wd shuttle to the Type R) and now they make crap. Newer Civic are not fun to drive anymore, have nothing innovative and the materials quality is really lower than before. And they still have rusty rear fenders (for the 01-05 at least).

[auxmike]

No regrets. The fit was about 2k more, and there was only 2 I could find! The older Fit of the time was kinda tinny and wimpy looking. The Yaris looks beefy and well fed...
I also see a good mix of drivers operating these cars, so it's not "gender specific" like a New Beetle convertable chick car, for example.
The engine compartment is well laid out and the car's fairly easy to work on.
Got my '08 Brand new in April of 2008 for $14,160 with A/T and power everything! I could'nt find any with the ABS or side airbags at the time. But that's ok, I see a few here dealing with the corroded ABS connectors setting off the dash light and costing big $ to fix... I think the new Fit is just too odd lokking and pricey for me. BUT, I can't wait to try out the 2012 Yaris!

[teddy]

I love my Yaris but if I could go back in time I'd probably go back and get an 09 Matrix instead, that or a Yaris sedan/Corolla. Definitely wouldn't be telling the me of 2008 to get a Yaris Hatchback again.

The Yaris was totally useless for cargo the past 2 winters since we had a kid since the trunk has NO room remaining with a stroller. The 60/40 seats would've been a godsend some days. This will be the first year without needing a stroller which will be nice.

[joe keeney]

I'd buy two if the hands of time went back.

[TRDMarty]

The Yaris I have has yet to let me down in any way. It is the 1st Asian import I've ever owned and the only thing I can think of is its lack of power (stock). We all make choices when we purchase a car. Initial cost, maintenance costs, performance, resale value, fuel milage and appearance. Appearance in how other people will see you in this type of car, stock or modded. Yes the numbers on the road of the Fit are more than the Yaris but to me thats perfect. I've always had cars that are very few in numbers, 1972 DeTomaso Pantera, 1971 Camaro R/S Z-28 and now my 2008 FerrYari S LB. This site has definately increased my interest in the Yaris and provided me with valuable information on maintenance and
other points of interest. All of the YariWorld members and supporters like Garm keep the membership well informed and provide solid advice for anyone. Hell, I check this site 3 to 4 times a day for new subjects.
Absolutely no regrets on my choice of my Yaris S LB. :evil:

[DebbyM46227]

Yes, I would buy another Yaris, only because Honda no longer makes the CRX. I owned 3 of those back in the 1980's. The Yaris is the closest to the CRX I can find. Although I'd really love to have a Honda CR-Z, but those are out of my price range. I drool every time I see one.

[Shinare]

If i could go back in time I would not sell my 1972 Leyland Mini 1000cc.

[RedRide]

The Yaris was the best option for me at the time I prchased it back in '09 and I have absoloutly no regrets.

It was originlly purchased mainly for commuting to my job. However, I have since been forced into early retirement and it is now great, prctical, money saving transpotation.

[Thirty-Nine]

No regrets here, either. It's been a great car for us. Although I do miss my 2005 Scion xB from time to time (the vehicle I traded in on the Yaris), I love the Yaris.

However, if I had to buy a new small car right now, I would definitely do some cross shopping with the Mazda2, Hyundai Accent, Ford Fiesta, Chevrolet Sonic, and Nissan Cube.

[kk4real]

my last car was a Hyundai Elantra GT that was totaled when this lady hit my car...
I loved that car, but they stopped making GTs in 2005...
I was considering an accent, but the doors were to big
so I wanted a 4 door xA, but they stopped making those in 2006!
2007 was a bad year for me to get a new car, but I got a yaris because it had the best mpg in it's class
I just wish toyota had released the 4 door hatch earlier...

[yak]

Yep...I drive this thing like I stole it, every day...no complaints
chuck some decent rubber on 'em an' a CAI unit to make you smile drive

[NEexpat]

The only regret is that I wish I had looked a little harder for a MT.

[frownonfun]

I'd have tried a little harder to find the kind of Celica I wanted. I also would have kept my International Scout. :( What was I thinking getting rid of that?!

[ilikerice]

Looking back at the money I spent on the Yaris. My 08 Tacoma Prerunner I traded in for the yaris, would have been paid off by now. Should have kept my CRX as my weekend car... I think I would be happier if I get another car for back up while I work on one or the other

[nookandcrannycar]

No. Never was a fan of the Fit's appearance and would still be spending countless dollars trying to keep up with everybody.

:bellyroll: No, and not a fan of the Fit's appearance either. When I was shopping for my Suzuki Swift (new car I had (for 61 months) before my Yaris), I looked at the ECHO and was very drawn to all the mechanicals (natch! :biggrin:). I just couldn't get past the (IMO) terrible styling and the fact that no hatchback model was available. Once 'our little egg' burst upon the auto scene, I pretty much knew it would be my next car.

[nookandcrannycar]

my last car was a Hyundai Elantra GT that was totaled when this lady hit my car...
I loved that car, but they stopped making GTs in 2005...
I was considering an accent, but the doors were to big
so I wanted a 4 door xA, but they stopped making those in 2006!
2007 was a bad year for me to get a new car, but I got a yaris because it had the best mpg in it's class
I just wish toyota had released the 4 door hatch earlier...

Just the opposite for me. I don't like 4 door cars that have a small stationary windows as part of the rear doors. Too easy to break into. Fortunately, Toyota 'corrected' this with the 3rd Generation 4-passenger door hatch.

[swidd]

It's one of the better decisions I feel I've made. I bought the HB in 2007, and because of the fuel economy, it allowed me to do some "shit" jobs with an awful commuting schedule.

MPG = Economic freedom to travel.

Now, moving into 6th year of ownership, and 4 years since I paid it off, it costs me next to nothing in maintenance. I haven't had to do any major repairs other than waterpump. All I pay is $700/year in comprehensive insurance, and I don't even drive it often. Just $40 for DIY oil change every year.

It had enough room to transport everything I own. Ultimate bachelor car.

When I did kayaking, it transported it without problems.

Bicycles transport just as easily.

Now I tow a motorcycle with it when needed.

I never expect the car to provide speed or excitement. For that, a motorcycle is much more appropriate.

[nookandcrannycar]

No regrets here, either. It's been a great car for us. Although I do miss my 2005 Scion xB from time to time (the vehicle I traded in on the Yaris), I love the Yaris.

However, if I had to buy a new small car right now, I would definitely do some cross shopping with the Mazda2, Hyundai Accent, Ford Fiesta, Chevrolet Sonic, and Nissan Cube.

I like all of those cars looks and feature wise, but the Mazda 2 and the Cube don't get good enough gas mileage, and the Sonic is built by one of the companies that took a bailout (:thumbdown:). I'd have to consider the Fiesta and the Accent, but I think (although now distinctive in a different way) I'd still pick the Yaris re it's exterior styling...even though I can't stand the looks of the dash.

If I decided I could give up the manual, was willing to spend a bit more, but still cared about MPG I'd get a Prius C.

If I was willing to spend a bit more, but cared just slightly less about MPG, I'd get a Subaru Impreza.

If I was willing to spend more, but didn't care that much about MPG I'd get a Mini or a BMW 1 series.

One of my neighbors has a new Fiesta and another has a new BMW 1 Series Coupe, so I'd probably ask each of them quite a few questions. Each of those cars caught my eye before my neighbors became owners.

[nookandcrannycar]

Didn't notice = thread revival until just this minute. I replied to posts from 2011 :redface:.

[MattS.]

Yes, and no. Buy an older car, and pay in full. But since I bought a new car (my first ever), tough it out a few years on payments and have it for many a mile...!

[matti]

I can't say for sure. The 2012 Yaris is my first subcompact, but I'm surprised at how much things rattle and make noise. Maybe all subcompacts are like this because of cheap plastics, etc.? Regardless, it drives great and I expect years of trouble-free performance from engine and tranny.

[nookandcrannycar]

I can't say for sure. The 2012 Yaris is my first subcompact, but I'm surprised at how much things rattle and make noise. Maybe all subcompacts are like this because of cheap plastics, etc.? Regardless, it drives great and I expect years of trouble-free performance from engine and tranny.

Wow...nothing in my car rattles. However, rattling wouldn't be a deal breaker for a 3rd Gen as a replacement down the road.

[tooter]

If I could go back in time...

...I'd go back and buy a 2011 instead of a 2012. :smile:

[nookandcrannycar]

If I could go back in time...

...I'd go back and buy a 2011 instead of a 2012. :smile:

Why? (Just curious re when I do replace my 07.......If my question is too nosy, please feel free to say you'd rather not say :smile:)

[SAV912]

I got a SCREAMING deal on mine. Off lease '09 (so yes to ABS and extra airbags, no to stupid traction control and ESC) with 24K miles for $7999. Now I'm closing in on 93K miles and I've been to St. Louis, Miami, NYC, Chicago, Nashville and countless other places with it. It was my first newish car and hasn't let me down an ounce. Never liked the 1G Fit, and the 2G Fit was way too bloody expensive for being a largely similar car that just had some fancy folding seats.

I'd do it all over again. However, with the offerings on the market now as opposed to just three years ago, I'm thinking of stepping up. That Fiat 500 Abarth is DELICIOUS.

...and recently, a used Honda S2000 has been speaking to me. Hm.

[Aldor]

First of all hello everyone, this is my first post. I enjoy this site very much and found lots of useful stuff here. I am from Slovenia and own a '06 2nd gen 5dr Yaris 1.3lit hb with 5spd MT. I bought it used in apr'12.

Since I was in the market for a used small car this spring, I of course also considered a Fit (or Jazz as it is called in Europe). Especially since I had already owned a Honda previously.
What bought me with Yaris was it's amazing practicality and useful interior (numerous closed compartements and sliding/folding rear seats). Jazz's two direction folding rear seats and "flashier" interior don't mean anything to me. Nicer exterior was also a plus. Jazz looks like a minivan to me too, whereas Yaris looks playful and compact at the same time, which I like. It is considered a "girl's car" where I live, but one forgets about that quickly when one does a test drive.

When I drove Yaris for the first time, I was just shocked how good it drives. Handles well and is comfortable at the same time. Great driving position, precise steering, well built. After a test drive I just forgot about the Honda.

The only major complaint is the drive-by-wire-pedal / lazy engine combo. I found about that later when driving in the hills. Honda would probably shine here. Non responsivness took quite a lot of time for me to get used to, especially when driving uphill. Luckily the manual transmision is quick and precise and improves driving dynamics when I desire or am forced to drive in a sportier way.

I would buy a Yaris again if I went back to spring'12. But this time I would try to cough out an extra 2k€ for a newer '09 model (much better 1.33 engine and a 6spd transmission).

[bronsin]

We agree on a lot of things about the Yaris.

I would point out a 6 speed transmission with the same top gear ratios as a 5 speed will get worse mpg.

If thats important.

[Aldor]

With the 1,33L engine 6spd MT came as a standard here in Slovenia so I wouldn't really have a choice.
I didn't know about the gearing but I would expect they would put a longer differential gear into 6spd models. Looks like I'm wrong.

But i've read some statistics on some German site a while ago and the real world data (large sample of user mpg reports) show mpg improvement in favour of 1,33 l engine (6,0 vs 6,5 litres/100km) so the better engine seems to offset the gearbox "issue".

I do miss an extra gear sometimes between 2nd and 3rd or between 3rd and 4th though. Real PITA:(

[bronsin]

Sounds like you drive for performance.

I drive for economy.

Lucky you theres a six speed!:headbang:

Poor me Im too old to push a clutch in and now drive automatic:cry:

[jcboy]

(If you have the honda city there, pretty much the sedan of the honda fit)

I would think twice about the honda city or fit, but il still go for this yaris sedan.
I hate the interior exterior price and the lack of amenities/features of the city and fit and the only things i dislike about my yaris sedan is the centered gauge amd green lights.

I sometimes have regrets of not getting the 1500cc variant bec of the engine power (i have the 1300cc), but when my gas meter goes down to 2bars, i thank god i didnt.

[Aldor]

@bronsin

Heh, my friend, with gas prices here at 1,5€ per liter (8$/gallon) driving for economy is not a choice but a must:(

The trouble with gears is that I live in a hilly country so there's a frequent need for shifting. The VTEC (not VTI!) powered Honda I drove before Yaris was happy in 5th even with steeper grades, Yaris not so much. Maybe I should move to Florida or Danmark:)

Ah, you aren't too old, you're just spoiled:D They're funny these cultural differences. I've never driven an AT car and I only know one guy who owns one. Even though the AT additional fee is usually moderate, people here rather opt for a better engine or xenons, auto climate control, foglights or stuff like that. AT comes at the bottom of the "most desired" list. I too can't imagine myself driving an auto, but i would rather spend the saved money on ski tickets or something though.

Cheers and have a nice day.

[MadMax]

Yes, I would still get the Yaris hatch. Never liked anything about the Fit then and still don't. It continues to look like a shrunken minivan... and an ugly one at that!

This, we own a Honda Odyssey, and the Fit is just a shrunk down version of it.

Honestly, I drive a lot of compact cars as I travel a lot for work and when I can get one as a rental, I do so. As a matter of fact, it was a week of driving a Yaris in Tampa that sold me on the model!

I've driven several other cars in the same class as the Yaris and I have yet to find one that I like better than it. I am impressed at the quality of some, but none can surpass the design, quality, experience, cost or functionality of my Yaris.

The Fit was designed for people who wanted a smaller minivan, and in that genre it is a good deal; but I don't even consider it to be comparable to the Yaris.

And when it comes down to how much more expensive it is, the Yaris is a considerably better deal!

[nookandcrannycar]

I got a SCREAMING deal on mine. Off lease '09 (so yes to ABS and extra airbags, no to stupid traction control and ESC) with 24K miles for $7999. Now I'm closing in on 93K miles and I've been to St. Louis, Miami, NYC, Chicago, Nashville and countless other places with it. It was my first newish car and hasn't let me down an ounce. Never liked the 1G Fit, and the 2G Fit was way too bloody expensive for being a largely similar car that just had some fancy folding seats.

I'd do it all over again. However, with the offerings on the market now as opposed to just three years ago, I'm thinking of stepping up. That Fiat 500 Abarth is DELICIOUS.

...and recently, a used Honda S2000 has been speaking to me. Hm.

That seat was the largest draw for me....the ability to easily put a bicycle in the car....but there were (and still are) too many things I don't like about the Fit.

[nookandcrannycar]

This, we own a Honda Odyssey, and the Fit is just a shrunk down version of it.

Honestly, I drive a lot of compact cars as I travel a lot for work and when I can get one as a rental, I do so. As a matter of fact, it was a week of driving a Yaris in Tampa that sold me on the model!

I've driven several other cars in the same class as the Yaris and I have yet to find one that I like better than it. I am impressed at the quality of some, but none can surpass the design, quality, experience, cost or functionality of my Yaris.

The Fit was designed for people who wanted a smaller minivan, and in that genre it is a good deal; but I don't even consider it to be comparable to the Yaris.

And when it comes down to how much more expensive it is, the Yaris is a considerably better deal!

^^^^^ This

[nookandcrannycar]

Yes, I would still get the Yaris hatch. Never liked anything about the Fit then and still don't. It continues to look like a shrunken minivan... and an ugly one at that!

I agree re the ugliness of the Fit. Would you still only get YOUR Yaris hatch, or if buying new NOW would you still get a Yaris? Your posts indicate a dislike for certain visual cues on the 3rd generation Yaris :biggrin:.

[nookandcrannycar]

My sentiments also.

But the Yaris is the best out there today.

:bellyroll: When I read Flipper's post just a moment ago, my first thought was..Wow...you and Bronsin are like two peas in a pod on that issue.

[jayeh]

Had a Versa as a rental when I test-drove both the Yaris and Fit. Out of the three, the Yaris was a clear win.

The Versa is the worst car ever. The ones I test drove were absolutely awful.

Ah, you aren't too old, you're just spoiled:D They're funny these cultural differences. I've never driven an AT car and I only know one guy who owns one. Even though the AT additional fee is usually moderate, people here rather opt for a better engine or xenons, auto climate control, foglights or stuff like that. AT comes at the bottom of the "most desired" list. I too can't imagine myself driving an auto, but i would rather spend the saved money on ski tickets or something though.


I was going to get the MT but I don't see the point in getting one in such a low powered car. If It were fun to hold a lower gear I'd see the point, but this car just gets loud and not that fast.

As for the Yaris in general, I'm happy with it but wish it had a 5th gear for the AT. The humming of 4th at 3000-ish rpm is annoying. The highway fuel economy is kind of meh.

I'm not a fan of how touchy the damn throttle is. I find myself driving way too fast.

[nookandcrannycar]

I've looked at everything else in it's class and some bigger cars like the corolla since I picked up my yaris in '08 and still nothing else appeals more. The mazda2 is close, but its freeway noise is more, mechanicals are questionable, and the arch in the front fender and smiley face grill have not grown on me yet. Fiesta-horribly low tech engine from the 90's-timing belt, really. Just check their forum-it is made in Mexico after all. Fiat 500-made in mexico-enough said. Fit, too much of a little wagon to me-yes, I too see the small minivan look. I could not have lived with the seat material everything sticks too. But the breaker was the very firm ride of the Fit-can't deal with it. 2012 yaris-well, it has enough quirks that it's growing on me

The Yaris having a timing chain was another consideration I added as a pro when weighing pro vs. con.

[nookandcrannycar]

I don't have a yaris but I recommended to my mom to buy a fit (which she did) over a yaris 1.5 year ago, and since then I drove both cars a lot (we have a fleet of Yaris at my delivery place), and I would now recommend the Yaris over the fit, although they both have defaults and the fit my mom got was still a good deal. The fit had a 2500$ reduction (brand new 2009, bought in 2010) and with the different prices and packages in Canada, it was cheaper than a 5 door Yaris 2010 (there were no more 2009) with AC.

The fit feels a bit more sporty at first, but it the end, it's annoying. The suspension is too stiff to be really comfortable but the car still takes some roll in the curves, the steering is a bit sharper, but the turning radius is much bigger (about 3 feets maybe, but I drove both mostly in town and you feel the difference a lot when doing u turns and such for delivery), and it's a bit over assisted, at highway speeds the fit steering is over reactive and you have to be careful. And the fit MT has really close gears, it's cool for spirited driving or around town, but on the highway the engine noise is annoying and the MPG sucks.

So, the yaris with it's longer gearbox is a bit less quick around town but the vvti still makes a good job, and it's a bit more quiet on the freeway (and you get better mpg), the electric steering on the hatchback is really nice. On the downside, the gearbox is more slushy and the cargo room is obviously much smaller. And despite it's minivan look, the fit is the same height as the yaris hatchback and you sit a bit lower.

Otherwise, road noise (not engine noise) and seat comfort seem to be about the same but I haven't really driven the yaris on the highway for extended periods since we only drive around town for work. Actually I dislike the seats in both cars (I'm tall and there not enough leg room), but the ones in the yaris seem to be a bit better for a long drive. Also, they both have a crappy drive by wire system, when I take the remaning echo hatchback at work (with a throttle cable and no power steering), it's a blast to drive compared to the yaris, but it's noisy and less comfy. But in the end, the yaris isn't great anywhere, but not bad anywhere either (except for cargo room), while the fit's qualities (more fun to drive) are also it's biggest defaults, it's less homogen.

I'm waiting the yaris 3 with impatience, hopefully we will replace some of the older yaris at work for one (which also means that they will ditch the echo hatchback 2005, sadly).
Otherwise, I never drove a Yaris sedan, it seems to be fine but I believe that it's a bit less responsive than the hatchback, then I would simply get a Corolla instead (they are now only 600$ extra in Canada).

But the seats are really important to me, and it's personnal taste. I have driven 25 000 miles in my ex Geo Metro 1.0 (mixed city and highway) in a year and a half, with some trips, and I never had any back pain. After 1.5 hour in the fit, I start to have some pain.



I'm 6 feet 3 and they all miss leg room to be comfortable, which is a non sense in the fit and the versa since there is still so much leg room in the back. For front room, I don't see any clear winner or loser in the category. The best small car is by far the mini (you can slide the seats rearward untill they touch the rear seats), but it's 10k$ more...
I wish we had some european sub compacts (renault clio, VW polo and such), I'm pretty sure they have more leg room.

Leg room is the only reason why I bought my geo metro and then my Civic '99 instead of a Tercel/echo/yaris/corolla. The Prius 3 finally has significantly more leg room than the previous one, I hope that the next gen Corolla and Yaris will be the same way. Otherwise, tall people need to get a Camry to be comfortable (which my father did 13 yars ago, since the corolla wasn't big enough).



Do I really see a Civic shuttle 84-87 in your avatar? It's your? I had one (87 4wd) for a while, I sold it because it was rubbish and not so reliable, but it's a blast in a snow storm (I've done some ice lapping too) and the interior room is better than in the fit despite the lack of magic seats and the awd system. I measured both cars in every ways and the Civic was better everywhere (by almost a foot from the dash to the trunk lid) but in height (exact same), I measured so I can bring my motorcycle home (2x700km drive), the bike fitted in the car simply with the front passenger seat removed. I wonder how Honda made so many great civic (from the 4wd shuttle to the Type R) and now they make crap. Newer Civic are not fun to drive anymore, have nothing innovative and the materials quality is really lower than before. And they still have rusty rear fenders (for the 01-05 at least).

The engine noise was also a con to me re the Fit.......and the turning radius was also a major draw to me re the Yaris.

[junorico24]

I only wish it was 2007 now because we are spoiled for choice.Look at what's on offer at this segment.Better versions of the: Accent, Rio, Fit, Mazda 2,Fiesta and of course the Yaris.Companies are putting it down son.It's so tempting to get another hatch ??( matbe a few years down the track).But i have no regrets i love my Yaris it has never let me down.I have been impressed with it so far after 5 years of service.I would find it hard to part with my Yari :redface:

[Aldor]

I was going to get the MT but I don't see the point in getting one in such a low powered car. If It were fun to hold a lower gear I'd see the point, but this car just gets loud and not that fast.


I see your point and agree that there are better car choices for a spirited driver. But I would add that the MT/AT choice is not entirely to the one's driving style but also to the types of roads one uses. I think I would quickly go mad at AT gear choices on twisty and/or hilly roads which i often use. I don't really drive fast nor overtake a lot but I do like fluid driving and I think ability to choose the gears manually helps very much with that. It also helps with the fuel economy.

Of course on the highways I simply shift up to the 5th and keep it there for the duration of the trip so it's no different than having an AT.

[2o6]

The engine noise was also a con to me re the Fit.......and the turning radius was also a major draw to me re the Yaris.

The high price and the huge racket it makes at freeway speeds turned me off to the Fit. It does handle better than our cars, though, and it it's immensely roomy. But for the price, I would buy something else.


I sort of liked the Versa (it's really big inside for a small car) but they seem to be poorly made for a Japanese car, and finding one with an MT shift and Cruise is hard. (if Yaris got totaled, I would likely get one)


The Scion twins were nice, too, but xB was really expensive. I found an xA I liked, but the guy didn't want to come to the price I wanted to be at, so I bought a nice little Yaris sedan.

Aveos are trash.

Accent/Rio was nicer than the Aveo, but still terrible.


If I could go back in time, I still would likely buy a Yaris. I wish I would have inspected it better to know that it had been in a not-so-serious accident, but otherwise I'm 100% happy with my car.

[jayeh]

The high price and the huge racket it makes at freeway speeds turned me off to the Fit. It does handle better than our cars, though, and it it's immensely roomy. But for the price, I would buy something else.


I sort of liked the Versa (it's really big inside for a small car) but they seem to be poorly made for a Japanese car, and finding one with an MT shift and Cruise is hard. (if Yaris got totaled, I would likely get one)


The Scion twins were nice, too, but xB was really expensive. I found an xA I liked, but the guy didn't want to come to the price I wanted to be at, so I bought a nice little Yaris sedan.

Aveos are trash.

Accent/Rio was nicer than the Aveo, but still terrible.


If I could go back in time, I still would likely buy a Yaris. I wish I would have inspected it better to know that it had been in a not-so-serious accident, but otherwise I'm 100% happy with my car.

You mean the Versa sounds about right for a mexican car. Japan is way across the ocean, nowhere near mexico. Weird how you got those confused. :iono:

t

[tooter]

Why? (Just curious re when I do replace my 07.......If my question is too nosy, please feel free to say you'd rather not say :smile:)

Hey nook, :smile:

You're never nosey. :thumbsup:
I really like the 2nd gen jellybean look over the ugly 3rd gen pinched front and bulbous protruding taillights.

[nookandcrannycar]

Hey nook, :smile:

You're never nosey. :thumbsup:
I really like the 2nd gen jellybean look over the ugly 3rd gen pinched front and bulbous protruding taillights.

:thumbsup: Thanks. I really value your opinion, and I just wanted to know (re future purchase consideration) if your reason was mechanical or ergonomic (meaning something I would need to put on a con list during consideration). I do like the 2nd gen look better as well, but I do like that the 3rd gen is still distinctive (in a different way).

[nookandcrannycar]

The high price and the huge racket it makes at freeway speeds turned me off to the Fit. It does handle better than our cars, though, and it it's immensely roomy. But for the price, I would buy something else.


I sort of liked the Versa (it's really big inside for a small car) but they seem to be poorly made for a Japanese car, and finding one with an MT shift and Cruise is hard. (if Yaris got totaled, I would likely get one)


The Scion twins were nice, too, but xB was really expensive. I found an xA I liked, but the guy didn't want to come to the price I wanted to be at, so I bought a nice little Yaris sedan.

Aveos are trash.

Accent/Rio was nicer than the Aveo, but still terrible.


If I could go back in time, I still would likely buy a Yaris. I wish I would have inspected it better to know that it had been in a not-so-serious accident, but otherwise I'm 100% happy with my car.

I've sat in a few different Versas at car shows. Each time I shut the door....not a good sound. Overall (for some reason I can't completely put my finger on...an overall feeling of cheapness? poor construction?)...it reminds me of the old VW Fox. That similarity is NOT a good thing.

[tooter]

:thumbsup: Thanks. I really value your opinion, and I just wanted to know (re future purchase consideration) if your reason was mechanical or ergonomic (meaning something I would need to put on a con list during consideration).

I like everything except the body style. When I'm driving I can't see the outside of the car so it's all good. :smile:

[nookandcrannycar]

I like everything except the body style. When I'm driving I can't see the outside of the car so it's all good. :smile:

:thumbsup: The 3rd Gen body style is growing on me (both 3-door and 5-door):smile:. The only 3 things I can think of (off the top of my head) that I really dislike about the 3rd Gen are: 1. The two tone seats (not an improvement over the arguably lamentable 'polka dot'...but both 2nd and 3rd Gen = easily corrected via aftermarket covers, or less easily by seat replacement) 2. Miss the 'old school' keyed latch (like mine) for the hatch (a relatively minor issue) 3. The dash (as previously mentioned on this thread....but I left out that this has nothing to do with the change re location of the instrumentation).

[mr_miles]

I don't think I'd change anything. I'd still buy gnar gnar, because I ended up finding a car I like modifying, and plan on keeping. I'm notorious for buying cars and selling them, and I don't plan on it this time. And besides, it made me buy the 3rd gen! I still end up buying and selling / trading cars on the side, but I kept the yarii as my daily drivers.

[b20vteg]

honestly... in retrospect, i would've gone with the fit. but it was too expensive for what it is, so i went with the next best thing which also happens to be within budget - my '12 yaris.

[matthewai]

You know...at first I didn't like the Yaris, I wished that we had got a Fit instead. To me, the Fit was a better car all around and it probably still is.

But once I started to drive the Yaris I got attached to it, it's like the Yaris has personality to it, it has character. The Fit is probably the better car, but I don't see myself becoming as attached to it as my Yaris. The Yaris makes me feel happy whenever I drive it, that's a quality not many cars have...but to me it's what makes the Yaris special.

Plus, the Yaris is more rare in my area, so it's like i'm driving a unique car.

+1 exactly it THIS IS IT ahhh

[bairjo]

To answer the original question...yes. In fact I have my second Yaris now. These things are so easy to maintain and work on. As far as fuel economy, I could have spent almost another 10K on a prius for just a few more mpg...i don't think so...

[nookandcrannycar]

+1 exactly it THIS IS IT ahhh

+1....except Yari are no longer rare in my area.

[nookandcrannycar]

To answer the original question...yes. In fact I have my second Yaris now. These things are so easy to maintain and work on. As far as fuel economy, I could have spent almost another 10K on a prius for just a few more mpg...i don't think so...

+1

[why?]

if i had to go back in time i wouldn't change. I was looking for a 2 door hatch, the Yaris was one of 3 on the market. I think the other two were hyundai/kia. No choice at all.

If I was choosing now, it would be a much longer process, so many good 2 door hatches.

[Superfly]

Honestly, if I could go back in time I would probably opt for something with a better finance rate. My sis bought a Corolla with 0% financing and is almost done paying half of it off and I still owe so much because the Yaris is standard bank rate at most of the dealerships I checked out regardless of my credit score or downpayment. Outside of financing, I would not change my decision. My Yaris is a good compromise on fuel efficiency, power, handling, storage space, and size. I'm not in love with my Yaris but it is suited for me and my practical needs more than the competitors. I cannot wait for 2014-15, though, as most companies are going to be rolling out new productions and redesigns that are sounding sweet.

[thebarber]

I shoulda bought a 5door back in 07

OR

given the timing, 07 fits were $1000 off to match the eco-rebate offered by the government. Just too bad the drivers seating position didn't suit my wife

[mr_miles]

I shoulda bought a 5door back in 07

OR

given the timing, 07 fits were $1000 off to match the eco-rebate offered by the government. Just too bad the drivers seating position didn't suit my wife

I'm glad I wasn't the only person who thought it felt weird. lol

[jRoss]

Honestly, if I could go back in time I would probably opt for something with a better finance rate. My sis bought a Corolla with 0% financing and is almost done paying half of it off and I still owe so much because the Yaris is standard bank rate at most of the dealerships I checked out regardless of my credit score or downpayment. Outside of financing, I would not change my decision. My Yaris is a good compromise on fuel efficiency, power, handling, storage space, and size. I'm not in love with my Yaris but it is suited for me and my practical needs more than the competitors. I cannot wait for 2014-15, though, as most companies are going to be rolling out new productions and redesigns that are sounding sweet.

Can't you refinance after awhile and get a better rate? I'm in the same boat.

[UberSilver]

You know...at first I didn't like the Yaris, I wished that we had got a Fit instead. To me, the Fit was a better car all around and it probably still is.

But once I started to drive the Yaris I got attached to it, it's like the Yaris has personality to it, it has character. The Fit is probably the better car, but I don't see myself becoming as attached to it as my Yaris. The Yaris makes me feel happy whenever I drive it, that's a quality not many cars have...but to me it's what makes the Yaris special.

Plus, the Yaris is more rare in my area, so it's like i'm driving a unique car.

Only thing Honda does better than Toyota is Motorcycles.:wub:

But my Yaris is perfect, well it could get 100 mpg, but for now it's just fine @ 40.

And my Honda VFR is perfect as well.

To me the Honda FIT looks cheap. I dont care for the sharp lines/angles. I also dont feel it will age as well as a 2 door Yaris.

[toad]

i wouldn't have tried taking on two brand-new car payments within a year or so of each other. the first yaris i have no regrets-we now own it payment-free! the second one(another yaris) was a mistake and i should have just bought a used corolla/civic/etc. for half the money. life would have been a lot easier! lesson learned.

[Idahotom]

I just wish the damn rear windows rolled down. Great ride otherwise.
Ted the dog

A few trips into town in the Yaris, and then I start feeling guilty as Ted doesn't get the full driving experience from his opening windowless jump seat where the rear seat used to be. So then I'll take the 2000 Rav4, (same deal, jump seat where the rear seat used to be, but 4 door w power windows) and while he enjoys the hell out of it, I cringe at the ScanGauge reading when arriving back at home, as compared to the Yaris, and can't help doing the math. It usually costs me a buck or two extra. I keep track on this excess cost, and will bill him at some point.

Tom the Yaris owner 08 HB

[jcboy]

the thing about the Fit is that the only person that appreciates it in stock form is the owner. the thing about the Yaris hatch is it appeals to more people, while with the Sedan not even the owner appreciates the style. lol.

seriously speaking, the best part about Toyotas is the engine power being available on the low-rpm band. i believe it is less about the driving experience but more about the fuel economy. with Hondas you have to rev it out for you to get "that" driving experience.

[nookandcrannycar]

:thumbsup: The 3rd Gen body style is growing on me (both 3-door and 5-door):smile:. The only 3 things I can think of (off the top of my head) that I really dislike about the 3rd Gen are: 1. The two tone seats (not an improvement over the arguably lamentable 'polka dot'...but both 2nd and 3rd Gen = easily corrected via aftermarket covers, or less easily by seat replacement) 2. Miss the 'old school' keyed latch (like mine) for the hatch (a relatively minor issue) 3. The dash (as previously mentioned on this thread....but I left out that this has nothing to do with the change re location of the instrumentation).

A few days ago I got behind a '13 Yaris at a stoplight. I noticed that it had what looked like a keyed hatch opener on the 'chrome strip' on the hatch. Is this new for the '13? I sat in a '12 at a Toyota dealership when they first came out, walked all around it, and I don't remember seeing this keyed opener. Is it on the '12 as well? I tried searching (text and pictures) and couldn't find any text that would answer my question and the pictures I've found don't allow for a clear enough zoom to answer the question.

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Anyone? Is it on the '12 as well?

[RABYARIS]

Greetings Yaris Worlders.....

Be honest, if you could go back in time and do it again, would you buy the Yaris again or would you opt to buy another car, say the Honda Fit? When I drove the Fit (after I bought the Yaris), I have to admit I had buyer's remorse. If I could do it again, I'd probably go with the Fit.....

Being honest, if I could go back in time I would not marry the same WOMAN again!!! But Yaris is for TODAY, TOMORROW and FOREVER...Not one single regret....

[matti]

^^^^^ Anyone? Is it on the '12 as well?

Are you referring to being able to open the back hatch with a key? If so, yes the 2012 has this. I apologize if I misinterpreted you.

[nookandcrannycar]

Are you referring to being able to open the back hatch with a key? If so, yes the 2012 has this. I apologize if I misinterpreted you.

Yes, that is what I wanted to know, :thanks:. I missed seeing it when I looked at a 2012 when they first came out. I even mentioned it to the salesperson. Obviously he didn't know his own product well enough to point out that it does have this. I mentioned to him that I would miss that feature.

[Thirty-Nine]

Yes, I'd do it again. Our Yaris has been great so far. Clutch was replaced under warranty with a $40 upcharge for the TRD unit. Other than that, it's been nearly trouble free. Consistently high 30s for mileage, still fun to drive, still love the look. Coming up on six years later, I still love this car. Funny thing is, this is the longest I've ever owned any vehicle since getting my license in 1994.

For me the bigger question is would I buy another one. While the Yaris is a great car, there seem to be a lot of other great subcompacts out there. I'd likely have to consider the Chevy Sonic Turbo, Honda Fit, and possibly the Mazda2 in addition to a Yaris (likely and SE with a manual).

[nookandcrannycar]

Being honest, if I could go back in time I would not marry the same WOMAN again!!!

This may have to do with your location :biggrin:. I lived there for 6 1/2 years, and I'm glad I didn't marry any of the women I dated while living there.

[RABYARIS]

This may have to do with your location :biggrin:. I lived there for 6 1/2 years, and I'm glad I didn't marry any of the women I dated while living there.

I agree with you 100%...I am originally from the east coast and some times I think i did not just move to another state but to another state of mind. :thumbup: It's the weather that I can't seem to give up.

[Kar98]

Greetings Yaris Worlders.....

Be honest, if you could go back in time and do it again, would you buy the Yaris again...

I would make sure to get at least a 2008.

[Superfly]

For me the bigger question is would I buy another one. While the Yaris is a great car, there seem to be a lot of other great subcompacts out there. I'd likely have to consider the Chevy Sonic Turbo, Honda Fit, and possibly the Mazda2 in addition to a Yaris (likely and SE with a manual).

I took my sweet time picking out a new car because I too thought it would be difficult making a choice with so many sweet options on the market, but it proved to be much less daunting that I thought. After everything, only the Sonic (I owned a '86 Chevy prior to my Yaris so a little brand love came into play), xD, and Yaris kept my attention. Scion's Pure Price pushed me away and the Sonic hatch just looks off. The sedan is righteous but I got my Yaris with more goodies for a lesser price. What really helped was reading these forums. The Yaris never seemed to have problems while the guys on the Chevy sites were catching all these issues with their first year Sonics. 2014/15 will be crazy awesome, though, what with the Fiesta ST, the possible Sonic SS, Subie's mods to their BRZ, the possible Toyota/Mazda love child, etc. Could be fun for us small car guys.

[Kal-El]

I bough mine in the summer of '08. Choices were far fewer in this class than they are now. I did intensive research and went with the Yaris and for the most part, haven't 2nd guessed my decision.

Remember in '08, the only choices were Yaris, Fit, Aveo, xD, Accent, & Rio (I may be forgetting one or two). Also remember that this was when gas reached $4/gal for the first time resulting in a mad dash to buy small cars in a limited supply market. There were no new Yaris's even available and I bought the only used one I could find which happened to be a Flint Mica S sedan which I wanted.

The only other ones on my consideration list were the xD and Fit. Fits were also sold out and pricey if you could find one. The xD was closest in the running. Again, hard to find and a bit more than I could swing at the time. Plus, I prefer sedans.

One thing I regret is that mine doesn't have the power package. It's kinda annoying to not have what is now commonplace power windows, locks, cruise control, ect.

Yaris won because:

- Most fuel efficient car at the time other than Prius
- I am loyal to Toyota
- Assured reliability
- Best looking sub-compact at the time along with xD IMO.
- Lowest cost of ownership
...and numerous other reasons

As of late, I've had the desire to upgrade. Two sizes! I'd buy a used Camry SE (probably a 2010). But my current circumstances will keep me in my Yaris for at least a couple more years.

[nookandcrannycar]

Yes, that is what I wanted to know, :thanks:. I missed seeing it when I looked at a 2012 when they first came out. I even mentioned it to the salesperson. Obviously he didn't know his own product well enough to point out that it does have this. I mentioned to him that I would miss that feature.

After this post I saw another '13 (a 5-door SE automatic) and it DIDN'T have a keyed release on the hatch. I just looked at most of the '13 Yaris info on the Toyota site for the U.S., and the only conclusion that seems plausible to me is that because the SE has standard keyless entry, Toyota eliminates the keyed hatch entry on the SE. I don't like this at all. I want both, which one would have if they added an aftermarket keyless entry to an L model. What if you had a parking situation like in that SUV commercial where the guy crawls out of the back of the SUV and joins his family after parking in a tight space. What if an SE owner had that situation, returned to their SE, and the battery was dead? Wouldn't they be prevented from entering their SE until the person parked next to them returned to their car? I like the SE features (except the power windows) and it would be crazy to try to turn a non-SE into an SE....but...would it be possible to swap a non-SE keyed hatch apparatus into that area on an SE ?

[matti]

I'm a little torn. I bought my 2012 Yaris L (5MT) in August. I've never owned a subcompact before, but I'm a bit bummed out about all of the rattles. Granted, I live in northern MN and it gets cold, so all of the cheap plastics will likely rattle/chatter. But, I've never had a car rattle like this. It's a bit of a bummer, but maybe all sub $15k cars are like this?

I've been a Toyota fan for a long time, and the only cars I was looking at was the Yaris and the Corolla. Would I buy the Yaris again? Hard to say.

[nookandcrannycar]

I'm a little torn. I bought my 2012 Yaris L (5MT) in August. I've never owned a subcompact before, but I'm a bit bummed out about all of the rattles. Granted, I live in northern MN and it gets cold, so all of the cheap plastics will likely rattle/chatter. But, I've never had a car rattle like this. It's a bit of a bummer, but maybe all sub $15k cars are like this?

I've been a Toyota fan for a long time, and the only cars I was looking at was the Yaris and the Corolla. Would I buy the Yaris again? Hard to say.

When it gets cold enough my car does rattle, but it doesn't get that cold here very often. Is your window still staying in the locked position and closed when the crank is all the way to the end, or has your window started not going up that last bit again?

[matti]

When it gets cold enough my car does rattle, but it doesn't get that cold here very often. Is your window still staying in the locked position and closed when the crank is all the way to the end, or has your window started not going up that last bit again?

I did give a brief update in my other thread in regard to the window problem. They seemed to have fixed it (after the fourth attempt!), but I'm still a little worried. Five days and it's still okay :) I will keep my fingers crossed!

[nookandcrannycar]

I did give a brief update in my other thread in regard to the window problem. They seemed to have fixed it (after the fourth attempt!), but I'm still a little worried. Five days and it's still okay :) I will keep my fingers crossed!

:thumbsup: Wishing for you that it stays fixed :smile:.

[matti]

:thumbsup: Wishing for you that it stays fixed :smile:.

I'm with you. Thanks!

[padre1964]

Had an 09 yaris that i kept for two years. traded it in for a 2012 challenger r/t. six months later i wish i had kept the yaris and just bought the dodge without trading it in. just bought a 2012 yaris a few weeks ago, this time an automatic LE. i will have this one a very long time.

[nookandcrannycar]

....but...would it be possible to swap a non-SE keyed hatch apparatus into that area on an SE ?

Anyone? (also see post #111 on this thread) I'm serious. To me, keyless entry is 'just another thing that might break' (and I KNOW that some other members feel that way about other features or potential accessories) and I'd prefer also have a non electronic back up method.

[auxmike]

I put in Viper keyless entry for $48. I don't miss ABS and the corroding sensor pins problems many are encountering...

[SKurj]

Actually YES!!!

I would have kept my 2004 Echo 3dr HB... I have now bought a BRZ which is the car I was waiting for (well actually I wanted the GT86 not the scion...)

I thought the BRZ/FRS wasn't going to land until 2014 earliest so I figured I had to replace the echo as it had 250,000kms on it but it was a great car even then at 250, all I had done was brakes, fluids a blower motor and an interior bulb.

The 2009 Yaris I have now just broke 100k but is still a good car and a little more comfy than the echo, but a little 'cheaper' in the interior plastics especially. At least I will be keeping the Yaris for winter duty and it may go to my nephew in 4 years when he gets his license.

[otterhere]

I wouldn't choose the Fit, necessarily (never liked its looks; the Yaris is "friendlier"), but today I might go with the FIAT! Can't complain about its reliability or performance, but there have always been things, albeit little things, that have bugged me about the Yaris design. It's fine for now, but I'll be ready to move on to the next when the time comes.

[auxmike]

I like the fiat too, but doubt its reliable and the dealer network is real thin.

[Captain Slow]

Nope, I purposefully bought a Yaris (traded in a BMW for it) because it was exactly what I wanted, a tune-able tiny hatchback that got great gas mileage and had pretty good handling.

[PDFileKyle]

I'd say no. Because of the mods I want to put onto it.
I like how unique the car is. Everyone in my town has Civics, Integras, a couple VW Golfs, and theres one IS300.
The Yaris stands out amongst these.
The only possible downside is that the "true motorheads" in the area tell me I drive a girls car.
which is fine, because gas prices just went up to $3.78, and my wallet isn't hurting,.

[Captain Slow]

then they aren't real gearheads, real gearheads have a soft spot for tiny hatchbacks.

[DJYojimbo]

If Toyota starts selling a Turbo Yaris I might buy one

[TLyttle]

I'm sure I will drive my 07 sedan until one of us drops. I've been dealing with Toyotas nearly 40 years now and I like the reliability. Not a big fan of front-wheel drive, but my Yaris has never lied to me when the pressure was on. Is it perfect? Of course not. The only reason I prefer it over my 76 Volvo 245 is its fuel economy and rust resistance. Mine is plain jane, no options, and I like it that way: it's a car, and it does what it is supposed to do. My buddy has a Prius, and I wouldn't trade him straight across!

[ezhacker1]

i would have waited just a few more months for the 5Door hatchback in manual. They just look so proper when lowered, and its more practical with passengers.