More stolen parts from an XD!

[enviri]

First I did the side mirror mod from an XD...

Now..

Project cheapass BBK! (275mm vs 255mm, larger caliper/pads)
*This was months of research and self doubting to reality!

Scion XD/09 Corolla/Matrix Calipers USED: ~100$ off ebay; ~165$ on rock auto (semi-loaded caliper)
(toyo part# 47730‑12A10|47731‑12A10
06/2007-SCION XD - ZSP110 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
12/2007-TOYOTA COROLLA -ZRE142 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER)

2012 Yaris SE rotors (toyota part# 43512-52130): ~105$ ea (msrp)
Napa Adaptive ONE pads w/ shims for Scion XD: 57$ (cheaper than buying shims and pad seperately, plus these pads are very HQ)

we're going to re-use the clips off the yaris' caliper. They are the same part #.

(optional) Steel brake lines off MI: 140$

=$322-$407 (or $462-$517 with brake lines)

Me and a buddy did a test fit just now, and everything fits fine.

modifications needed:

NONE!


**These are tested, no issue at all, ABS works, TCS works.

**funny how toyota accommodated the 275mm rotors with the dust cover lol. It now looks how it should be. The Euro TS/SR and JDM RS share the same dust cover.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/10895953-B31A-440A-AE69-59B6AC042A96-5556-00000340EC8C0CA7.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/94B07670-7BDD-4E9D-9182-36B1B206AB69-5556-00000340E50E946A.jpg

[ASG14]

DING BRAKES ARE DONE

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/016.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/012.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/011.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/014.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/015.jpg


Oh, my '96 Camry. Who wants a braking competition?

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/14ASG/DSC_2502.jpg

[Yoda]

niCCCEEEEEEEE

[CTScott]

Nice find! Have you tried triggering the ABS to see how it behaves with the bigger discs?

[ASG14]

He's not driving with it right now as he;s goign to paint the calipers.
But ABS should be fine.

[Klink10]

Very nice. No relocation of brake lines?

[enviri]

brake lines will stay. scion xd and yaris brake lines are identical.

here's more comparison shots.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/88afe6a8.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/c7263407.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/76df5392.jpg

[Qmobile]

wait so lemme get this straight....to have rear disk breaks alls I'd have 2 do is steal 'em of a xD? I thought all scoins were 5 lugs

[enviri]

im not doing rears. yet. these are for the fronts.

[Qmobile]

o i see miss understood

[weedtank]

Hell yes

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

these will clear the stock wheels??

[Klink10]

o i see miss understood

^^^^Ditto

[enviri]

these will clear the stock wheels??

you know..i forgot to bring my OEM 15" alloys last night..lol. it SHOULD fit. as there are scion XDs around with aftermarket 15s around..

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

you know..i forgot to bring my OEM 15" alloys last night..lol. it SHOULD fit. as there are scion XDs around with aftermarket 15s around..

as i was doing my winter tire swap this morning I was checking clearance.....

[ASG14]

Andy, my Camry has 275mm rotors and 15" OEM steelies work fine. the ONLY concern would be the caliper clearence on the front of the rim, but I'd think it;s be fine. Let me know if you want the rotors since it doesn't fit my AE101.

[WeeYari]

Say, that's nice. Will be spot on with painted calipers. Almost makes me want to give up my current 14" OEM steelie winter setup.

Gonna get yourself an xD donut, or do you have triple A in case of a front flat?

[enviri]

Say, that's nice. Will be spot on with painted calipers. Almost makes me want to give up my current 14" OEM steelie winter setup.

Gonna get yourself an xD donut, or do you have triple A in case of a front flat?

meh i have a 15" mr2 spyder winters. I'll stick one in the trunk. Dont get xd donuts, remember its 5 lug :laugh: look for some MR2, maybe corolla, or say to hell with it and find civic steelies

[Flipper_1938]

What is the year range for the XD calipers that work for this upgrade?

[ASG14]

^ All Years

[yariseggvvti]

Dose anyone know MR2 spider rear brake will fit in to Yaris. Thanks!

[enviri]

probably not. the closest thing we got is the 2012 yaris SE rear brakes or the scion IQ (alot of matching part #)

[Flipper_1938]

Are Corolla calipers tha same as XD calipers?

I tried car-part.com and it is pulling up Corollas and Matrixes along with XDs.

[ASG14]

the current Gen Rolla/Vibe/Trix do look to be the same as the xD Caliper.

Anyone interested in a set of OEM '12 Yaris SE Rotors? Since they don;t fit my AE101, I figure I'd sell them. $160 picked up, or $165 + actual shipping,

[03Z33]

The Kido BBK uses a 282mm rotor and larger 4/6 piston calipers and those clear the 15" steelies so it's very likely that your setup will clear also.

As for rear disc, the Kido kit also clears OEM 15" steelies and works AWESOME :)

[yariseggvvti]

If the MR2 spider rear brake fit in to Yaris that will be nice. cuz its ventilated disc brakes. Anyone knows how to make it work.Thx!

[enviri]

XD front brakes installed!! they run perfect, with noticable extra bite. like I said before, they installed with ZERO modifications, just a 14, 15, and 17mm socket and pull that old crap out!

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/IMG_1228.jpg

Oh for those that wonder, yes it clears 15s, here's a pic of my stock toyota mr2-spyder 15s on. I believe they are 15x6 +42?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/IMG_1235.jpg

Nice find! Have you tried triggering the ABS to see how it behaves with the bigger discs?

^ I slammed brakes, ABS works like before. hell, TCS works too. :)

[ASG14]

WOOT! So glat it workled out. :-D

[cali yaris]

that's awesome, great job :bow:

[nemesisz]

Whats the caliper to spoke clearance? Also what is the clearance from the top of the caliper to the inside of the rim?

[ASG14]

Whats the caliper to spoke clearance? Also what is the clearance from the top of the caliper to the inside of the rim?

Plenty of room. Not even a remote clearence issue. Remember, EVERY RIM IS DIFFERENT!!!

[enviri]

^True that. Alot of people use aftermarket 15s with offset +42 or less, so you're 90% likely in fitting. With stock steelies, I don't know :/ I no longer own a pair lol.

here's the big picture on 16s lol.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/fo%20show/834d21e5.jpg

[mazilla]

This is great, I'm going I add this to the "to do" List.


Thanks!

[mario98c]

Bigger brake rotors don't affect engine performance?

[ASG14]

Bigger brake rotors don't affect engine performance?

:bonk:

[enviri]

the weight difference is a couple grocery bags and u eating a meal for 3 at boston market and then u gotta take a huge dump and you are holding it in till u get home.

lol. its like 5-10lbs more i guess. My engine pulls like before.

[mario98c]

the weight difference is a couple grocery bags and u eating a meal for 3 at boston market and then u gotta take a huge dump and you are holding it in till u get home.

lol. its like 5-10lbs more i guess. My engine pulls like before.

Ok Thanks!:bellyroll::biggrin:

[enviri]

This is great, I'm going I add this to the "to do" List.


Thanks!

wait a few weeks i wanna put it thru a couple tests in nj/nyc tommorow, so i wanna see how the wear is and if the brake fluid drops. I rarely use my brakes in normal driving, and this is a good chance.

[mazilla]

wait a few weeks i wanna put it thru a couple tests in nj/nyc tommorow, so i wanna see how the wear is and if the brake fluid drops. I rarely use my brakes in normal driving, and this is a good chance.


Nope, too late...you are now responsible for what happens from here on out! :biggrin::tongue:

[cali yaris]

^ ewww.... but a decent analogy.

[enviri]

Nope, too late...you are now responsible for what happens from here on out! :biggrin::tongue:

I feel dirty. :help:

[ASG14]

The caliper piston is the same size, so the brake fluid isn't gooign to be affected in any way.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

WANT to do this BUT i need a bigger trunk and don't feel like wasting time/money on something thats going to the auction anyway....


My engine pulls like before.

we need a video of this before it gets too cold! Care to do battle???

[Jason@SportsCar]

Bigger brake rotors don't affect engine performance?

Bigger (diameter or heavier) rotors will effect the cars overall performance. Putting bigger rotors on is the reverse installing lighter wheels, flywheel or an under-drive pulley. It is also an increase in unsprung weight, which effects handling.

But a change like this will not make a discernible difference on the street - except to those that have the oversensitive but-dyno - but it would show up on the dyno and in lap times (a very small time change) at the track. While it can slow the cars acceleration down, being able to repeated stop from high speed could pay off in the long run.

The weight increase is the reason a lot of big brake kits use a two-piece rotor with an aluminum hat. Better stopping without adding weight, win, win.

[enviri]

WANT to do this BUT i need a bigger trunk and don't feel like wasting time/money on something thats going to the auction anyway....




we need a video of this before it gets too cold! Care to do battle???

huh? last i recall your car is much faster than mine anyway lol

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

huh? last i recall your car is much faster than mine anyway lol

can you actually say FAST and YARIS in the same sentence??? im serious though as my butt dyno is telling me big things since taking off the summer 18's....

[enviri]

did you order the part yet? when it comes in you can butt dyno my car when i pick it up :P

[enviri]

UPDATE: abused in the city traffic and almost crashed 4 times (the FDR and Maj Deegan pisses me off sometimes) brakes are wearing evenly and I can use less effort to brake hard lol. No issues at all.

[ASG14]

The FDR is an evil road.......

[ljming99]

After seeing this,

I went to have a look at my front brakes as well..

Indeed the brake dust cover is a tad larger than the stock rotors =D

[cali yaris]

can you actually say FAST and YARIS in the same sentence???

Yes. :biggrin:

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

Yes. :biggrin:

SURE, if your bankroll is funded by your peers.....

[mazilla]

So, just to be clear the Corolla brake setup is the same as the XD right? car-parts does show corolla when you search the XD.

[enviri]

part numbers 47730‑12A10 and 47731‑12A10,

06/2007-SCION XD - ZSP110 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
12/2007-TOYOTA COROLLA -ZRE142 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

[ASG14]

part numbers 47730‑12A10 and 47731‑12A10,

06/2007-SCION XD - ZSP110 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
12/2007-TOYOTA COROLLA -ZRE142 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37169

WOOT! lol

[mazilla]

part numbers 47730‑12A10 and 47731‑12A10,

06/2007-SCION XD - ZSP110 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
12/2007-TOYOTA COROLLA -ZRE142 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER


I'd be getting mine from a wrecker, so part #'s don't really do much...I have to tell the guys what year/make/model I am looking for and they will go yank them out.

[Maitre_Te_Te]

part numbers 47730‑12A10 and 47731‑12A10,

06/2007-SCION XD - ZSP110 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER
12/2007-TOYOTA COROLLA -ZRE142 47-05: FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER & DUST COVER

06/2007, do you say 2006 and 2007?
12/2007, what do you want to say with 12/2007!

Tank you ! :confused:

[boksmith]

Hi am Bok,
If any body could need a Toyota yaris.
I have a new one at my park for sell
email me at boksmth@gmail.com, if interested

[enviri]

06/2007, do you say 2006 and 2007?
12/2007, what do you want to say with 12/2007!

Tank you ! :confused:

the Scion XD was manufactured from June 2007.
the corolla model was manufactured from Dec. 2007.

-_-

[mazilla]

the Scion XD was manufactured from June 2007.
the corolla model was manufactured from Dec. 2007.

-_-


Sweet, thank you for clearing that up... :w00t:

[Maitre_Te_Te]

Sweet, thank you for clearing that up... :w00t:

X2 tank you!

[enviri]

IF anyone's interested, i found calipers for 35/ea off a 2009 corolla at the local junkyard here in CT :P

http://www.chuckandeddies.com/caliper-from-2009-corolla-452261/2010-scion-scion-xd/
http://www.chuckandeddies.com/caliper-from-2009-corolla-452262/2010-scion-scion-xd/

[seth_man]

i just got my calipers, found them at a bone yard on ebay, called them and ended up getting both calipers for $45 shipped. it was action auto parts in st. paul MN if anyone is looking for some

[enviri]

nice! I think ASG still has a pair of 12 yaris se rotors unused laying around his house if you want it.

[seth_man]

nice! I think ASG still has a pair of 12 yaris se rotors unused laying around his house if you want it.


i sent him a pm but it looks like he hasnt logged in for a couple weeks, if you know him would you mind letting him know to check his pm's

[enviri]

I called him up to check pm. If you want, you can pick it up tommorow, since i'm going to attend a monthly team meet at the toyota dealer near bristol, ct :)

[seth_man]

I called him up to check pm. If you want, you can pick it up tommorow, since i'm going to attend a monthly team meet at the toyota dealer near bristol, ct :)



Bristol is closer than Stamford , I could prolly do that. What's the address and time?

[enviri]

tommorow at noon, we're meeting at home depot right next to stephen's auto mall.

Stephen's auto mall is the final destination.
1075 Farmington Avenue Bristol, CT 06010

[froger]

i have also done the brake swap and used trd brake pads unfortunately i did not have 2012 yaris se rotors so i had to re drill the holes on a corolla rotor ,I also found that the brake pedal travel increased when i switched the calipers , so i switched my brake lines to stainless steel lines, this made a better direct brake feel.does any one else feel the brake travels a little long.?

[enviri]

Now that you said that...it does feel like the pedal travel is a bit longer...

[seth_man]

piston diameter is larger on xd/corolla calipers, therefore move fluid volume is required to move the piston the same distance, it takes a longer master cylinder stroke to move more fluid and create the same pressure at the brake pad. in all reality we prolly should be upgrading to a larger bore diameter master cylinder to go with this caliper upgrade. our master cylinder bore diameter is 13/16" and the xd master bore diameter is 7/8"

[enviri]

it really isn't too noticeable. If you want to order a master cylinder, tell us if it fits and I'll happily swap it

[Black Yaris]

DING BRAKES ARE DONE

Oh, my '96 Camry. Who wants a braking competition?


I will take you up on that :)
I just did an BBK using OE parts as well
stock fronts were 288, I found 325mm off an A6
stock rears were 245, I found 300mm A4 Conv
:thumbup:

cool thing was I got to keep my calipers, only had to replace rotors and caliper brackets, and I threw a fresh set of Euro spec pads

[enviri]

update on bbk, did a checkup after 30k miles and the brake pads are still pretty damn new. everything is working fine and wearing nice and even.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/10895953-B31A-440A-AE69-59B6AC042A96-5556-00000340EC8C0CA7.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Vitz%20Brake%20Upgrade/94B07670-7BDD-4E9D-9182-36B1B206AB69-5556-00000340E50E946A.jpg

[mario98c]

Nice!

[1.5]

Awesome another brake option.

[kou]

Just upgraded mine over the weekend. My first brake job on the yaris 102,000 and still had some pads left but warped rotors. Total cost $380 OEM pads for 2009 corolla rebuilt calipers for 2009 corolla and rotors from the yaris se. Wheel size is 15x7 et42.

[enviri]

Woo!! 2 in the northeast! now go persuade james to do it lol

[kou]

Woo!! 2 in the northeast! now go persuade james to do it lol

Haha I will try. Now I need some rear disc brakes.

[enviri]

i'll keep a look out for you.

[ASG14]

AWSOME!

[RagnaCaT]

piston diameter is larger on xd/corolla calipers, therefore move fluid volume is required to move the piston the same distance, it takes a longer master cylinder stroke to move more fluid and create the same pressure at the brake pad. in all reality we prolly should be upgrading to a larger bore diameter master cylinder to go with this caliper upgrade. our master cylinder bore diameter is 13/16" and the xd master bore diameter is 7/8"

I'm gonna revive this thread awesome info!
Think I'll swap the master cylinder also! Corolla and XD are they the same?

[enviri]

47201-52420 -> scion XD
47201-02490 -> corolla XRS 09

[RagnaCaT]

will they mount properly on the Yaris is the question, for a rear disc swap corolla XRS should be the best

[enviri]

most likely not lol.
you *MIGHT* get away with using the scion's master cyl,
and i know the brake booster off an xd will plug right in...
44610-52620
the XRS booster assy looks sooo different.
44610-02441

[RagnaCaT]

Bigger (diameter or heavier) rotors will effect the cars overall performance. Putting bigger rotors on is the reverse installing lighter wheels, flywheel or an under-drive pulley. It is also an increase in unsprung weight, which effects handling.



But a change like this will not make a discernible difference on the street - except to those that have the oversensitive but-dyno - but it would show up on the dyno and in lap times (a very small time change) at the track. While it can slow the cars acceleration down, being able to repeated stop from high speed could pay off in the long run.



The weight increase is the reason a lot of big brake kits use a two-piece rotor with an aluminum hat. Better stopping without adding weight, win, win.


Since I'm on this let me update info
Yaris rotor 8lbs
Yaris SE rotor 10lbs
Yaris caliper 13lbs
Corolla caliper 15lbs

So for rotating mass there's a 4lbs increase and in overall car weight its 8lbs

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[Caramanos2000]

Just picked up a new set of 2011 calipers, se rotors, apex lines and stoptech pads Just need some decent fluid. I cant wait to get these on and see if they handle an open track session.:biggrin:

[RagnaCaT]

Got to bring this UP if you are going for the master brake swap from the XD you need the Boosterhttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/14ad0fbc9255638527412f6e3b67c54b.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/11/260ceb1b4ef132becfff4effd7d73922.jpg


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[aeipee13]

Just installed the XD BBk (lol) and would highly recommend it. I did not swap for the XD MC or booster yet but plan to soon. The stock Yaris MC and booster are now the weak point and there is a slight but noticeable loss in break pressure when hitting the breaks hard (not that you ever need to in a Yaris other than to avoid an accident).

The piston diameter size difference mentioned earlier explains the slight fade in pressure perfectly. Also I had never changed my pads or rotors after 240,000 miles and over 8 years my Yaris. The OEM pads and rotors were in great shape considering their age, only a small crack on the pads and a hairline crack on one rotor.

[Jerkratt]

Soo.. Wakey Wakey XD MC & BB plug n play?

[aeipee13]

Soo.. Wakey Wakey XD MC & BB plug n play?

I wouldnt worry too much about the MC if you swap for XD brakes. I think its easiest to get steel braided lines instead. The brake pressure holds really really well. I've been driving mine this way for over 10k miles and brakes are smooth as silk and can lay rubber when ever I want.

one of the best mods on a yaris by far.