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uncleyaris
02-05-2007, 12:12 AM
Has anyone installed or considered installing the push button starts that are available?
UY
forpinks
02-05-2007, 12:37 AM
If I were you... I wouldnt put that thing in, heres why:
first is it takes more movement and steps to start your engine, unless you have a car without a key "which is NOT the Yaris". number two. its hard to find a place for it with your Yaris because of all the storage. number three. its very annoying when you get one installed because if you press it again it will shut your engine off. and finally I drove an S2000 about a year ago when one of my friends couldn't parallel park her car and I have to do it.
I had to insert the engine put it into ON and then press the button for about 3seconds, then I didnt know the car started so I pressed it again then it shut off "damn!" so then I started it again... Its a pain in the ass but i does look nicE!
eTiMaGo
02-05-2007, 01:22 AM
Yeah it's really only useful if you have the whole keyless entry system. Press once to turn on the accessory power (like twisting the normal key), and a second time to start the engine.
As for placement, there is a spot just for it (unless it is not present in the RHD version?), as this comes standard in many versions in other countries.
Doc Zaius
02-05-2007, 02:08 AM
MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm... wireless fob. :drool: My buddy's Prius has it. I know they make it for the Vitz in Japan, but I doubt it will get exported to North America.
Speedz
02-05-2007, 08:36 AM
There is a round empty switch near where you insert the keys on the RHD model...
uncleyaris
02-05-2007, 06:13 PM
It sure would be neat to have, maybe down the road if a better made product comes available, or the Japan version could be shipped over here.
UY
YANGSTER
02-05-2007, 06:21 PM
Yummmm:drool:
Can we get them in NA? I'll be in if there's a GB and the price is RIGHT!:headbang:
drell42
02-05-2007, 06:25 PM
if you made a simple RFID keychain, you could have it set to open the doors and start with the button being pushed, my alarm has a similar system but it only arms or disarms, i could very easily wire it to start as well
acrbill
02-05-2007, 07:10 PM
you also have to remember that you need to figure out how to unlock the steering wheel if you want to do away with the key all together.
nah, an easy way to steal it
:bellyroll:
spkrman
02-05-2007, 10:47 PM
why bother?
eTiMaGo
02-06-2007, 01:23 AM
why bother?
Why bother with a red engine cover? :wink:
Cuz it's awesome!
ChinoCharles
02-06-2007, 03:37 AM
He gotcha there dude, haha!
seymour201
02-06-2007, 02:32 PM
Why bother doing this, just turn the key and let go, the starter keeps going for 20 seconds or until the engine turns, what ever comes first, just as easy as big red button isnt it?
uncleyaris
02-06-2007, 11:55 PM
Why do we mod at all? People like different things and there are many mods I wonder why people do, but it all comes down to prefs and $. We should all respect the mods our fellow yari do:thumbsup:
UY
eTiMaGo
02-07-2007, 02:15 AM
Why bother doing this, just turn the key and let go, the starter keeps going for 20 seconds or until the engine turns, what ever comes first, just as easy as big red button isnt it?
Oh man but it takes so much effort to take the key out of your pocket, find the key hole (especially in the dark), AND have to twist it?
If you have keyless entry as well, it's useful in the regards that you don't have to take the key out of your pocket, just get in, press a button twice, and off you go...
hasher22
02-07-2007, 04:14 AM
Ummmmm does the start button need an activation 1st b 4 u press the start button?
If it doesnt and i saw a car with the start button, i would break his windows and steal his car.
I know the new Toyota Aurion has the engine start button....
eTiMaGo
02-07-2007, 04:16 AM
well, the car has a sensor that can tell if you are carrying the special key with you or not...
Or else, yeah, it would be too darn easy to steal!!!
hasher22
02-07-2007, 04:23 AM
omg so u have a key anyway.......just insert your tool into the hole and start it up...
i hope u guys dont need practice on that..... :S
forget the start button
eTiMaGo
02-07-2007, 04:30 AM
well it depends, it may not even be a traditional key... Mazda's RX-8, for example, uses a flat credit card size device, the point is that you can use something that stays in the bottom of your pocket, that you don't need to fish out and fumble with.
Plus, racing cars use engine start-stop buttons, so it's gotta be worth a few extra horsepower just by its awesomeness... :laugh:
uncleyaris
02-07-2007, 07:13 PM
Touche'
UY
jaspie
02-07-2007, 11:16 PM
The Engine Start-Stop buttons don't need the keys ~ The "new" keys for these type of cars are only to open boot and keyless entry.....some even just unlock once the car senses the remote nearby ~
As long as you have the "remote" in your pocket and your car senses it.....then you can Start-Stop the engine ~ The Taiwanese Yaris has the sensor thing.....from what I read on the website.....since I'm chinese and can read the language -_-"~
In my friend's BMW.....he just slots the key into a hole......and presses the Start-Stop button.....newer cars are more advance I think ~
I think it's a cool feature ~
Jaspie ~
KSIbucky
02-08-2007, 01:50 AM
My dad has 2 on his show car
He has one under the hood and one in the trunk so he can show it off at a car show. I could understand for something like that or like your at the park your trunk is open and you want to get your groove on but other than that its kind of cool little waste of money though (you could do some cool lighting or something for the price) Where would you get one?
Speedz
02-08-2007, 02:33 AM
In my friend's BMW.....he just slots the key into a hole......and presses the Start-Stop button.....newer cars are more advance I think ~
I think it's a cool feature ~
Jaspie ~
But they are may god forgive... ugly piece of shite compared to the E46 series...:barf:
I recently test drove one... dont feel the prestige anymore... the aura is goooone...:eyebulge:
Terrorize
02-08-2007, 03:27 AM
I installed a push button starter...well i didn't do the actual install but what i meant is i got a kit and my mechanic buddy did it for me...
i did it for the coolness factor LOL...hehh eh..kinda like why i put those sport pedal covers on....so that it looks cool..it doesn't help performance..but looks great...
i left it so that i still needed to put the key in first before it would turn on...i'm paranoid that my car would be stolen easier if you could just press the button and go....
uncleyaris
02-08-2007, 09:09 AM
I installed a push button starter...well i didn't do the actual install but what i meant is i got a kit and my mechanic buddy did it for me...
i did it for the coolness factor LOL...hehh eh..kinda like why i put those sport pedal covers on....so that it looks cool..it doesn't help performance..but looks great...
i left it so that i still needed to put the key in first before it would turn on...i'm paranoid that my car would be stolen easier if you could just press the button and go....
Did you buy it local? Where did you install? PICS!!!
Thanks
UY
ChinoCharles
02-08-2007, 12:09 PM
But they are may god forgive... ugly piece of shite compared to the E46 series...:barf:
I recently test drove one... dont feel the prestige anymore... the aura is goooone...:eyebulge:
:eek: How can you say that about the Ultimate Driving Machine!?!?
CHTHHULHU
02-08-2007, 05:03 PM
What i like about push button starts is if you stall the car most cars require you to turn the key in off position then turn the key to start the car. With push button you just hit the button and you go.
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Terrorize
03-16-2007, 01:54 AM
Did you buy it local? Where did you install? PICS!!!
Thanks
UY
Sorry....took a damn long time and almost forgot about this thread...anyways...here's my pic....
Had this installed the 1st month i've had the car...
Got it local...but it's imported for sure...the brand is PIVOT....here's the site if anyones interested.
Sorry for the bad pic...i couldn't take a good one with my phone cam...it always looks crappy..this is the best pic...it looks way better in real life.
http://www.pivotusa.com/starterswitch/security.htm
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/images/funkygarage/23/Yaris%20Push%20Button%20Start.jpg
ItalianYaris
03-17-2007, 10:41 AM
Hey guys! I have a 2007 Yaris TS. In Italy the Yaris has an option that mine has, which has the whole keyless entry system. So there are spots to put it in! Although i asked if your car did not had it originally from factory? if i could install it later? Their answer was NO! There is too much to do and lots of parts to make the whole system a headake! Just though I would write you this. It seems like in the US is not even an option! is it?
YANGSTER
03-17-2007, 10:57 AM
Hey guys! I have a 2007 Yaris TS. In Italy the Yaris has an option that mine has, which has the whole keyless entry system. So there are spots to put it in! Although i asked if your car did not had it originally from factory? if i could install it later? Their answer was NO! There is too much to do and lots of parts to make the whole system a headake! Just though I would write you this. It seems like in the US is not even an option! is it?
Nope...I'm just curious how much does this option cost?
ItalianYaris
03-18-2007, 11:51 AM
The option in Italy is called Luxury Pack, and the price is 600 Euros, I would say about 780 US dollars! it includes the whole keyless entry system with start Button, heated mirrors and automatic air conditioning!
Katana
03-21-2007, 06:49 PM
I would like a start button like the one that Honda S2000 has.
uncleyaris
05-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Rather than starting a new thread, has anyone had sucess with this?
Terrorize
05-26-2007, 04:41 AM
Success with what? The push button start?? Take a look on page 2...one of my posts has a pic of my installed setup...i replied to your post...heh heh...i have it setup so i need the key before i can start..but i know you can do it with just the push start...
Katana
05-26-2007, 09:51 AM
No, I like the factory one.
Sway84
05-26-2007, 10:00 AM
yea uncle is right, and there is a spot for it anyway, its clipped onto the front dash kit to the right of the steering wheel directly beside your driver glove compartment, it pops right out lol and i was thinking about this mod for sure, but i think ill start off my next set of modding with making the car lighter/performance wize
uncleyaris
05-27-2007, 12:31 PM
Success with what? The push button start?? Take a look on page 2...one of my posts has a pic of my installed setup...i replied to your post...heh heh...i have it setup so i need the key before i can start..but i know you can do it with just the push start...
Could you find out how much your friend would charge for an install?
GuySmily
05-27-2007, 05:12 PM
Seems like adding a start button would be easy. On my gf's 07 LB, if you flick they key to start (and release right away), the engine will continue to crank itself until it starts. Seems like this would help give a polished effect.
Black Yaris
05-28-2007, 12:53 AM
Ain't Thomas workin on this retro fit?
eTiMaGo
05-28-2007, 02:38 AM
Putting in a simple start button is easy enough, you just need to splice into the ignition wires so that when you press the button, it closes the same circuit that turning the key all the way would do.
But, this still requires you to insert the key and turn it to the ON position.
I am researching into commercially available RFID stuff in order to make a totally keyless solution. But, the car's built in immobilizer system might make this pretty much impossible, as it uses its own transponder system to identify the key that is physically in the ignition. No key, no way to start the engine, which sorta defeats the purpose!
Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
eTiMaGo
05-28-2007, 02:42 AM
Seems like adding a start button would be easy. On my gf's 07 LB, if you flick they key to start (and release right away), the engine will continue to crank itself until it starts. Seems like this would help give a polished effect.
Yup, that's the crank hold system, pretty smart idea... Took me a while to get used to it, but now whenever I drive a different car that doesn't have this function, I let go of the key too early! :rolleyes:
d2dailly
05-29-2007, 08:45 AM
Yup, that's the crank hold system, pretty smart idea... Took me a while to get used to it, but now whenever I drive a different car that doesn't have this function, I let go of the key too early! :rolleyes:
hahaha same here and everyone says what are you retarted? lol
eTiMaGo
05-29-2007, 08:53 AM
hahaha same here and everyone says what are you retarted? lol
Nah the most embarassing thing was when I first got the car at the dealership, I didn't know about having to press the clutch all the way, so I could not start the car, ran back in the dealer in a panic, oh no, my new car's broken already! :biggrin:
Black Yaris
05-29-2007, 11:47 AM
Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
no it is not standard... as a matter a fact, most Yarii here do not have immobilizers (grey keys).... we have the regular OLD thin rubber black key
eTiMaGo
05-29-2007, 02:14 PM
how very most interesting........... :biggrin:
Black Yaris
05-29-2007, 02:23 PM
so if you come up with a keyless start option, it would be very marketable in the U.S.
question... would it be the same setup as the prius 1 touch for acc 2 for start then a 3rd for off?
ItalianYaris
05-29-2007, 03:15 PM
Putting in a simple start button is easy enough, you just need to splice into the ignition wires so that when you press the button, it closes the same circuit that turning the key all the way would do.
But, this still requires you to insert the key and turn it to the ON position.
I am researching into commercially available RFID stuff in order to make a totally keyless solution. But, the car's built in immobilizer system might make this pretty much impossible, as it uses its own transponder system to identify the key that is physically in the ignition. No key, no way to start the engine, which sorta defeats the purpose!
Which leads me to the question, do all of Yarii in the US/Canada have the immobilizer as standard?
Search on the European versions! Maybe they sell the whole kit! My yaris TS has the keyless ignition system, and it doesnt require any key! Look in Europe! We have it, the question is if the sell the whole kit system!:thumbup:
eTiMaGo
05-29-2007, 11:25 PM
Search on the European versions! Maybe they sell the whole kit! My yaris TS has the keyless ignition system, and it doesnt require any key! Look in Europe! We have it, the question is if the sell the whole kit system!:thumbup:
Yes, it is available here too on top of the line models, I have asked the Toyota dealership about it, and they say they cannot retrofit them on normal cars. There is probably a way, but the expense of getting the OEM system would jyst not be worth it!
so if you come up with a keyless start option, it would be very marketable in the U.S.
question... would it be the same setup as the prius 1 touch for acc 2 for start then a 3rd for off?
I'm not sure if it's something that could be made just plug and play, if I get it done it'll probably be available as a DIY and parts list...
I'm sure it's possible to control it all through a single button, OEM-style. But I really don't think my electronics skills are good enough to set up that kind of circuit. The way I'm planning it is a toggle switch (like those military style ones with the red cover for an extra dramatic look) to turn on the electrical system, then a nice big round button (look up Bulgin vandal switches, those are the bomb) for the ignition. And the whole thing only being active when a specific RFID tag is within range of a sensor...
I got a big book on RFID projects, lots of reading to do, lots of interesting ideas :biggrin:
freshprince130
07-10-2007, 11:03 PM
Nah the most embarassing thing was when I first got the car at the dealership, I didn't know about having to press the clutch all the way, so I could not start the car, ran back in the dealer in a panic, oh no, my new car's broken already! :biggrin:
I think i have you beat I got my new car and drove around In 3rd gear for like a week and my friends all kept asking why my car was idling so loud and i just said "thats what the radio is for" and turned the volume up...first time with a shift gate like that one
m911gt
11-20-2008, 10:37 AM
Holy thread dig! Since the last time you guys talked about this...16 months ago, has anyone else had success with the push button start option? Particularly without needing a key in the ignition?
I am especially interested in this http://www.trdparts.jp/parts_push_start-sw.html
Anyone know where to purchase one in the US? Thanks
m911gt
11-20-2008, 05:14 PM
Apparently the lack of response has answered my question. :(
m911gt
11-20-2008, 05:17 PM
is this kit too inexpensive to be true?
http://www.lambodoorkits.co.uk/engine-push-start-button-p-2136.html?osCsid=b0e491afcba7be13ea868738f2ccc7b9
KCALB SIRAY
11-20-2008, 05:30 PM
is this kit too inexpensive to be true?
http://www.lambodoorkits.co.uk/engine-push-start-button-p-2136.html?osCsid=b0e491afcba7be13ea868738f2ccc7b9
It's a pretty straight forward item, not much to do even if you were to do it yourself as a DIY. Looks complete though it doe sfail to mention if it will work with manual trans.
cali yaris
11-20-2008, 05:34 PM
I have a basic Start button option.
You can even choose which color you want the button to be.
m911gt
11-20-2008, 05:54 PM
Garm, are you serious? Geez, what's wrong with me? I'm on your site weekly. ugh, I'm heading there now....
cali yaris
11-20-2008, 06:08 PM
It's not on the site yet. I just remembered I had this in stock, it's from before I built the site!
m911gt
11-20-2008, 06:18 PM
Ah, I see. PM sent
Callisto
11-20-2008, 09:11 PM
Here's a crazy idea. Does anybody know if it would be possible to have a fully keyless system by doing the following.. Rigging up a toggle switch to the circuit that turns the ignition/acc systems on, and then the push button to start it. Then you could hide the toggle switch somewhere, like under a cover set into one of the switch areas behind the shifter?
Stoln
11-24-2008, 10:28 AM
I have a Canadian RS with keyless entry. What would I need to get to add the European option of push button start. I have always been a fan of dealer parts as they are made for the car and there is instuctions somewhere to install. For me aftermarket is good but sometimes the choice is not as nice as factory, but on the bright side way cheaper. Would someone in Europe be do us a huge favor and get the dealer part numbers for push button start and install instructions (if possible) and post it so if we choose to do this we can atleast know the parts to get. It may not be viable to order all the parts from a European dealer and install it by ourselves but someone will want to do this or try this and post a DIY. We all thank you.
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